...It stops missions being the primary LP source in FW post changes.

OMFG?!?

Are you seriously championing Susan Black's idea that plexes should have NO ship restrictions whatsoever? Do you just blindly agree with every dumb idea she puts forward?

Who got elected to the CSM? You or her? You don't seem to do much independent thinking, that's for sure.

"We will be implementing a cap on the number of missions one character can have open at once. This cap will affect all Security, Distribution and Mining missions, not just FW missions. The exceptions to the limit will be Storyline, Cosmos and Epic Arc missions. The current plan is for the cap to be 5 simultaneous missions."

Say what? How does this fix anything.

with no announced changes or policy in regards to missions you use militia alt/main to collect and pop missions while running them in non-militia alt (officially not allowed but to my knowledge not enforced).
Not as much as cash-out system of today, but combined with defensive farms the amount of total LP generated should be roughly the same.

This blog also caught my eye for the lack of talk of any real system upgrades.... The majority of my feedback was concerning how uninspiring I found your [CCP] vision and plans for those system upgrades and that they were the key element and resource of making people actually want to fight over FW space. I was very surprised to read nothing about them - can you please re-examine your plans for those for the next iteration (after tomorrow). They will still be the key to strategic goals and longer term fun for FW folks after the development spotlight moves away from FW.

All in all though, a very welcome surprise.

Cheers.

But the system being implemented will be set in stone as it were, yes? So will those future patches be more than the NPC/ Plex changes and tweaks to the various spreadsheets .. that is my concern, because I frankly don't see how switching from swarming Zerg mechanics to a bunkering Terran ditto will do much for FW when it comes to fun/gameplay.

Don't know your sensitivity, you could be one of those people who get faint at the mention of a new iphone coming out even when knowing it will be more of the same .. just saying
Otherwise, good to know. Maddening neglect on that front so will be happy that anything is coming really ..

Like Fozzie said, this isn't the entire FW package, just a rollout of the already-finished stuff. Moving the button to the warp-in, new system upgrades, NPC changes, and more will still all be coming in Retribution. The dev blog is just talking about the imminent changes and the new changes to the old plan, its not a replacement for the roadmap previously discussed in the other two official threads.

Personally I believe the largest payouts possible should be for killing rival faction pilots, not territory games, but I know that is difficult to keep free of alt exploitation.

All I said was that you shouldn't be able to defensive plex without killing anything. There should be stuff to shoot either way. If not people, than NPC's. Effortless D-plexing for LP is just as bad as effortless O-plexing for LP.

Not really. LP reward from killing an enemy pilot is based upon the worth of their ship when destroyed.

So, unless someone wants to use an alt to start blowing up their main's 200M ISK ships, the LP gain for this sort of exploitation is going to be reasonably low (not too mention slow.) Of course, the LP gained has to have an estimated ISK worth well below what the blowed-up ship is worth.

We've tested it internally on test servers not open to the public (first on an internal server then on Buckingham, which you may have noticed was in VIP mode since the end of last week).

You said no such thing. You wrote "there should be only one type of plex period" and there's really only one way to interpret that.

You said no such thing. You wrote "there should be only one type of plex period" and there's really only one way to interpret that.

Wow!

Wasn't the platform of most of this CSM to be more TRANSPARENT? Or have you conveniently forgotten those promises.

Hilarious.

Say what?

Ranger1 says he wishes the largest payouts came from killing other faction's pilots, but that it would be hard to reward that heavily without it being exploited.

You disagree (with something), and point out exactly why ship destruction isn't the highest reward: because of the exploit-proof implementation.

What was your point?

MAGICAL!!! SIMPLY MAGICAL!

24 hours notice. Espetacular! Especially for a paying customer. Thanks for the apretiation of being treated like dirt for the 24 hours notice. THe consideration for the players was imense. Trully unbefuking leavable.

"oh those evil afk plexers!". Like afk plexers will end with this. like plexing will end with this.

Thanks for locking up lp's of thousands of characters. this will fail either way . people will completely abandom amarr for good. and caldari will go the same way. just gallente and minmatar from now on. And the only flippings will be done by swutching for a few days and rejoin the other militia. Even alts can do that. Your work will resume to 0. only less billionaires in the game. now they will just be millionaires.

RIP caldari militia. If we dont flip systems tonight.

MAGICAL!!! SIMPLY MAGICAL!

24 hours notice. Espetacular! Especially for a paying customer. Thanks for the apretiation of being treated like dirt for the 24 hours notice. THe consideration for the players was imense. Trully unbefuking leavable.

"oh those evil afk plexers!". Like afk plexers will end with this. like plexing will end with this.

Thanks for locking up lp's of thousands of characters. this will fail either way . people will completely abandom amarr for good. and caldari will go the same way. just gallente and minmatar from now on. And the only flippings will be done by swutching for a few days and rejoin the other militia. Even alts can do that. Your work will resume to 0. only less billionaires in the game. now they will just be millionaires.

RIP caldari militia. If we dont flip systems tonight.

Farmers will move to defensive plexing.

btw i forgott. Good to see csm supporting this. ffs

They're only going to get paid worth a damn for d-plexing when doing so in heavily-contested systems, which means (thanks to needing to kill the rats) they'll be plexing in systems with lots of armed enemies right there. I wish them luck.

They're only going to get paid worth a damn for d-plexing when doing so in heavily-contested systems, which means (thanks to needing to kill the rats) they'll be plexing in systems with lots of armed enemies right there. I wish them luck.

..Personally I believe the largest payouts possible should be for killing rival faction pilots, not territory games, but I know that is difficult to keep free of alt exploitation.