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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1476
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:34:00 -
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You don't, and shouldn't, have to use it.
It's only worthless if it doesn't interest you. No amount of new missile effects makes shooting other ships any more worthwhile for me, but that doesn't mean I think they shouldn't make new ones.
5 guys doing small iterations on WiS isn't hurting anyone, and would only lead to the kind of stuff you'd like in about the same amount of time, or sooner.
It's not a bad idea to invest team avatar with WiS so that we can get small stuff in the meantime, if theyr'e going to wait 2 years anyways to start doing something.
You're saying do nothing until you can do it all, I'm saying do something on the way to it becoming something.
Maybe I'm naive. I'd rather more people got something, and you'd rather no one got anything but what interests you.
How is your opinion the better one for EVE? When it sounds like it's entirely based on your own self interests.
And I openly admit that mine is also entirely based on my own self interests, but mine at least extends to people you'd rather just not care about.
And yesh, that's rather selfrighteous of me. I really can't help it. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
959
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:18:00 -
[902] - Quote
silens vesica wrote: My interest was why people are still beating this dead horse. Congratulations - You appear to have answered my question: Insanity.
So i have my own shrink here on the forum ,so nice .
and about Dust, i know its real and i know that crap is coming
but i am willing to live with it.
Who knows maybe you could do the same if and when WIS comes to EvE
Fly safe Doc R.S.I2014
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1485
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:37:00 -
[903] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:silens vesica wrote: My interest was why people are still beating this dead horse. Congratulations - You appear to have answered my question: Insanity.
So i have my own shrink here on the forum ,so nice . and about Dust, i know its real and i know that crap is coming but i am willing to live with it. Who knows maybe you could do the same if and when WIS comes to EvE Fly safe Doc I tried to psycoanalyze myself once, ended up committed.
I think you made out pretty good. |

Ghazu
464
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Posted - 2013.01.16 06:14:00 -
[904] - Quote
Natsett Amuinn wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:silens vesica wrote: My interest was why people are still beating this dead horse. Congratulations - You appear to have answered my question: Insanity.
So i have my own shrink here on the forum ,so nice . and about Dust, i know its real and i know that crap is coming but i am willing to live with it. Who knows maybe you could do the same if and when WIS comes to EvE Fly safe Doc I tried to psycoanalyze myself once, ended up committed. I think you made out pretty good. lol me too! Maybe with enough xanax I will be able to live with wis in eve.
http://www.minerbumping.com/
lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |

Thomas Gore
Black Dawn Rising
223
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Posted - 2013.01.16 08:18:00 -
[905] - Quote
I'll just add my final words in this debate.
CCP needs to add something to EVE. And by adding I mean a whole new gameplay element. Be it Avatar Gameplay, be it something else, but it needs to be an addition and not tweaks and fixes, like the three last "expansions".
And they need to add them soon, within the next couple of years. Competition (whether or not it's direct) is knocking on the door. Several developers are "stealing" ideas from EVE and at least promising to deliver much more than just FiS, and if all CCP can come up with is lame orbital bombardment and tiericide, they will be in trouble.
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Ghazu
468
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:27:00 -
[906] - Quote
Thomas Gore wrote:I'll just add my final words in this debate.
CCP needs to add something to EVE. And by adding I mean a whole new gameplay element. Be it Avatar Gameplay, be it something else, but it needs to be an addition and not tweaks and fixes, like the three last "expansions".
And they need to add them soon, within the next couple of years. Competition (whether or not it's direct) is knocking on the door. Several developers are "stealing" ideas from EVE and at least promising to deliver much more than just FiS, and if all CCP can come up with is lame orbital bombardment and tiericide, they will be in trouble.
I agree on brand new content, but I'd like just more fixes maybe 2 more fix expansions at most will do for the next few years. http://www.minerbumping.com/
lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |

Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops THE ROYAL NAVY
1127
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:17:00 -
[907] - Quote
Ghazu wrote:Thomas Gore wrote:I'll just add my final words in this debate.
CCP needs to add something to EVE. And by adding I mean a whole new gameplay element. Be it Avatar Gameplay, be it something else, but it needs to be an addition and not tweaks and fixes, like the three last "expansions".
And they need to add them soon, within the next couple of years. Competition (whether or not it's direct) is knocking on the door. Several developers are "stealing" ideas from EVE and at least promising to deliver much more than just FiS, and if all CCP can come up with is lame orbital bombardment and tiericide, they will be in trouble.
I agree on brand new content, but I'd like just more fixes maybe 2 more fix expansions at most will do for the next few years.
The trouble is, although people like you and I will hang around that long, a lot of people wont. "A few years" is a very long time in the gaming world. Maybe not for us, but for the rest of the gaming world it really is. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
123
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Posted - 2013.01.16 14:41:00 -
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Who will wait for two years for a new pair of shoes, sitting in station? FIS is what makes this game, WIS was meant to be an expansion. Only problem is, it was spoiled by CCP in a way that trolls were happy everyone listened what they have to say. Inside mining barge, true story |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
962
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:50:00 -
[909] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:Who will wait for two years for a new pair of shoes, sitting in station? FIS is what makes this game, WIS was meant to be an expansion. Only problem is, it was spoiled by CCP in a way that trolls were happy everyone listened what they have to say.
Yeah ,we already know that. And now they abandoned it in favor for DUST,just before that stuff was integrated ,TA suddenly had to do other work. So even EvE balance and cosmetic expansions are low on manpower. But hey it is not so bad ,bc we really need Dust ,so EvE has a few years more. I bet all those console kiddies are gonna play EvE ,right?Or is it the other way around?
R.S.I2014
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1498
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:55:00 -
[910] - Quote
Ghazu wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote: I tried to psycoanalyze myself once, ended up committed.
I think you made out pretty good.
lol me too! Maybe with enough xanax I will be able to live with wis in eve. My nerve condition allows me to be on clonazepan for a long as I live, basically xanax or valium.
I won't say how much of the wacky tabbacky I smoke, it's very liberal. 
I could go through a nuclear holicaust and I would be perfectly calm. It's nice. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
962
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:19:00 -
[911] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:Ghazu wrote:Thomas Gore wrote:I'll just add my final words in this debate.
CCP needs to add something to EVE. And by adding I mean a whole new gameplay element. Be it Avatar Gameplay, be it something else, but it needs to be an addition and not tweaks and fixes, like the three last "expansions".
And they need to add them soon, within the next couple of years. Competition (whether or not it's direct) is knocking on the door. Several developers are "stealing" ideas from EVE and at least promising to deliver much more than just FiS, and if all CCP can come up with is lame orbital bombardment and tiericide, they will be in trouble.
I agree on brand new content, but I'd like just more fixes maybe 2 more fix expansions at most will do for the next few years. The trouble is, although people like you and I will hang around that long, a lot of people wont. "A few years" is a very long time in the gaming world. Maybe not for us, but for the rest of the gaming world it really is.
Well you still have people with old PC,s ,who can,t play a game that uses DX11 . Those players will keep EvE in the picture for a long time ,......right? . R.S.I2014
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Flamespar
Woof Club
506
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:32:00 -
[912] - Quote
After reading the summit minutes I start to feel sorry for the players looking forward to the POS revamp.
CCP says they are going to update POSs, changes their mind. CCP says they are going to giv us WiS, changes their mind.
Bit of a pattern.
It's like CCP is terrified of achieving its own vision. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
962
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:38:00 -
[913] - Quote
Flamespar wrote: After reading the summit minutes I start to feel sorry for the players looking forward to the POS revamp.
CCP says they are going to update POSs, changes their mind. CCP says they are going to giv us WiS, changes their mind.
Bit of a pattern.
It's like CCP is terrified of achieving its own vision.
but they delivered DUST to all of us ,right?
R.S.I2014
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
379
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:44:00 -
[914] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:but they delivered DUST to all of us ,right? Keeping in mind that that it wasn't entirely CCP's product, from developers to publishers... |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
962
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:50:00 -
[915] - Quote
Barrogh Habalu wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:but they delivered DUST to all of us ,right? Keeping in mind that that it wasn't entirely CCP's product, from developers to publishers...
So nobody at CCP is working on the integration of DUST? The magical crosshair on the planets that don,t suddenly rotate anymore,was put in by magic? Dust chat channels and EvE chat channels merging together was suddenly automaticly possible? Bring able to damage a player another platform was always possible? R.S.I2014
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
380
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Posted - 2013.01.17 08:17:00 -
[916] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:So nobody at CCP is working on the integration of DUST? The magical crosshair on the planets that don,t suddenly rotate anymore,was put in by magic? Dust chat channels and EvE chat channels merging together was suddenly automaticly possible? Bring able to damage a player another platform was always possible? Nice word twisting skills right there, but okay. My point is that CCP didn't do that alone. And when they do something alone, they release a hotfix patch they call an expansion and it takes them time that is actually enough to bring real expansion together. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
962
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Posted - 2013.01.17 09:37:00 -
[917] - Quote
Barrogh Habalu wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:So nobody at CCP is working on the integration of DUST? The magical crosshair on the planets that don,t suddenly rotate anymore,was put in by magic? Dust chat channels and EvE chat channels merging together was suddenly automaticly possible? Bring able to damage a player another platform was always possible? Nice word twisting skills right there, but okay. My point is that CCP didn't do that alone. And when they do something alone, they release a hotfix patch they call an expansion and it takes them time that is actually enough to bring real expansion together.
Sorry for twisting your words . i did mean to do that. But at least somebody mentioned ,that i have skills ,normally does not happen.
I know there was a team for making DUST work on the unreal Engine,but in order to make the integration working, a lot is done to EvE.It probably took more Dev time then we think to get the two platform communicating together.
And there is why i make sometimes negative comments ,WIS can,t have dev time ,but a feature used by 50 % of the playersbase can.if it will be used by 50 % at all.
R.S.I2014
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Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops THE ROYAL NAVY
1130
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:09:00 -
[918] - Quote
Flamespar wrote: After reading the summit minutes I start to feel sorry for the players looking forward to the POS revamp.
CCP says they are going to update POSs, changes their mind. CCP says they are going to giv us WiS, changes their mind.
Bit of a pattern.
It's like CCP is terrified of achieving its own vision.
I haven't read them yet. Is it really that bleak? It figures, I guess. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1010
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:53:00 -
[919] - Quote
Flamespar wrote: After reading the summit minutes I start to feel sorry for the players looking forward to the POS revamp.
CCP says they are going to update POSs, changes their mind. CCP says they are going to giv us WiS, changes their mind.
Bit of a pattern.
It's like CCP is terrified of achieving its own vision.
Oh, is that true? if so, POSers are welcome to the club. There's plenty of room here. No, I'm not back. I had a PLEX on this account and just activated it to bang my head on the Door a bit more. |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
183
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:57:00 -
[920] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Oh, is that true? if so, POSers are welcome to the club. There's plenty of room here.
But small single rooms/cells closed by a locked room.
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Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
442
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:22:00 -
[921] - Quote
It's been over a year, and I still walk like I have a stick up my donkey. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |

The F Word
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
44
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:26:00 -
[922] - Quote
The minutes make no mention of anything WiS related.
Here's what to expect: more iteration, nerfs and buffs of current ships.
Here's what not to expect:
- POS Revamp
- Anything WiS related
- New ship skins, custom textures, etc...
- Anything that would make PVE less tedious (drone AI just made it worse...)
The long and short of it is, if you're not enjoying the current game, there's nothing in the future that you should be looking forward to. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1010
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Posted - 2013.01.17 14:31:00 -
[923] - Quote
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Flamespar wrote: After reading the summit minutes I start to feel sorry for the players looking forward to the POS revamp.
CCP says they are going to update POSs, changes their mind. CCP says they are going to giv us WiS, changes their mind.
Bit of a pattern.
It's like CCP is terrified of achieving its own vision. Oh, is that true? if so, POSers are welcome to the club. There's plenty of room here.
Well, apparently it's true... maybe POSers are lucky to get some functional improvement but modular POSes are not in the plans at least until after Sovereignty is fixed.
I guess that CCP Deliver just took another torpedo to the flank... No, I'm not back. I had a PLEX on this account and just activated it to bang my head on the Door a bit more. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
964
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:00:00 -
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The F Word wrote:The minutes make no mention of anything WiS related. Here's what to expect: more iteration, nerfs and buffs of current ships. Here's what not to expect:
- POS Revamp
- Anything WiS related
- New ship skins, custom textures, etc...
- Anything that would make PVE less tedious (drone AI just made it worse...)
The long and short of it is, if you're not enjoying the current game, there's nothing in the future that you should be looking forward to.
but we have DUST.................right? R.S.I2014
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Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
442
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Posted - 2013.01.17 15:22:00 -
[925] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:The F Word wrote:The minutes make no mention of anything WiS related. Here's what to expect: more iteration, nerfs and buffs of current ships. Here's what not to expect:
- POS Revamp
- Anything WiS related
- New ship skins, custom textures, etc...
- Anything that would make PVE less tedious (drone AI just made it worse...)
The long and short of it is, if you're not enjoying the current game, there's nothing in the future that you should be looking forward to. but we have DUST.................right? Everything turns to dust eventually. http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs |

Ghazu
483
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:22:00 -
[926] - Quote
wow take a look at the ongoing threadnaught, how many of those people crying for theme-park-rization of eve are emote loving barbie freaks? http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1520
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Posted - 2013.01.17 16:50:00 -
[927] - Quote
Ghazu wrote:wow take a look at the ongoing threadnaught, how many of those people crying for theme-park-rization of eve are emote loving barbie freaks? I'm going to write something I really hate.
I don't agree with the post I quoted, but I think you're onto something with the second life stuff.
After reading the CSM minuts, I got the distinct impression that the only way we'll ever see anything in EVE beyond FiS stuff is when it's made as a game that isn't EVE.
Yes indeed, I feel like one day WiS will be EVE: Walking in stations (the game).
As apposed to the virtual sci-fi simulator they always touted it to one day be.
A bunch of seperate games, connected by a chat box, and maybe a gameplay connection that can be ignored, in the "EVE universe".
And it's bullshit. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
964
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Posted - 2013.01.17 17:23:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Ghazu wrote:wow take a look at the ongoing threadnaught, how many of those people crying for theme-park-rization of eve are emote loving barbie freaks? I'm going to write something I really hate. I don't agree with the post I quoted, but I think you're onto something with the second life stuff. After reading the CSM minuts, I got the distinct impression that the only way we'll ever see anything in EVE beyond FiS stuff is when it's made as a game that isn't EVE. Yes indeed, I feel like one day WiS will be EVE: Walking in stations (the game). As apposed to the virtual sci-fi simulator they always touted it to one day be. A bunch of seperate games, connected by a chat box, and maybe a gameplay connection that can be ignored, in the "EVE universe". And it's bullshit. yeah it is bullshit ,but according to most of the anti-WIS people ,this is just what we wanted. EvE is becoming a mission portal for another platform and the worst thing is ,we have to have approval from that other platform to shoot at a planet. So congrats to all anti-WIS people ,you got what you wanted. A big expansion for all of the EvE players that own a console.
I guess Ghazu owns a PS3 and he is happy R.S.I2014
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Marrnius DeLeon
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2013.01.17 17:51:00 -
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I am new to EVE and was unaware of the whole Incursus RP WiS split amongst the community beforehand. This whole topic is bizzarre coming into it now. The opinions seem to be split 50/50, however, the one thing we can all agree on is that EVE is the best game ever. We should welcome all content so the game can grow and evolve in new ways. The coolest thing about EVE is that there is so much to do and that quality attracts different kinds of players. Don't be short sighted and throw fits about one expansion that is not geared toward your preference when the next one will be. The game has succeeded for 10 years for a reason. |

Ghazu
486
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Posted - 2013.01.17 18:03:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:Ghazu wrote:wow take a look at the ongoing threadnaught, how many of those people crying for theme-park-rization of eve are emote loving barbie freaks? I'm going to write something I really hate. I don't agree with the post I quoted, but I think you're onto something with the second life stuff. After reading the CSM minuts, I got the distinct impression that the only way we'll ever see anything in EVE beyond FiS stuff is when it's made as a game that isn't EVE. Yes indeed, I feel like one day WiS will be EVE: Walking in stations (the game). As apposed to the virtual sci-fi simulator they always touted it to one day be. A bunch of seperate games, connected by a chat box, and maybe a gameplay connection that can be ignored, in the "EVE universe". And it's bullshit. yeah it is bullshit ,but according to most of the anti-WIS people ,this is just what we wanted. EvE is becoming a mission portal for another platform and the worst thing is ,we have to have approval from that other platform to shoot at a planet. So congrats to all anti-WIS people ,you got what you wanted. A big expansion for all of the EvE players that own a console. I guess Ghazu owns a PS3 and he is happy You guys keep on forgetting that I want wis, but on my terms, would you like me to repeat what my terms are for wis? Please, think about this for one moment. Consider the difficulty, the conceptual challenge about putting avatar gameplay in a game like Eve. Other games enjoy established archetypes, and straight forward logic.
FPS: yes you are a guy running around shooting other guys with guns, your body is your avatar. WOW: you control your character, you work hard to gear up, and your avatar wearing that gear looks really badass, your avatar is swinging its weapons with its hands, magic shots are flying out of your hands etc, it's avatar gameplay, it wont work without avatars.
You can't really play the above game archetypes without avatars.
Now consider diablo 3, there is an avatar, but everybody looks the same. Believe it or not I spent some time on my characters portrait, I really thought about it and steered away from the usual hawt big torpedo boobies look.
Also I admit I've played WOW. I've done my errands at Ogrimmar market. There are taverns and chairs and etc, and I don't see anybody emoting over there RPing or whatnot. Everybody is just spasming spaming jump at the AH, it's dumb as rocks why would you want that noise in eve, the only sanctuary from such cheese, let everything else be cheesy but please don't change eve into that. http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984 |
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