And then when you need the burst rep, you have to wait 60 seconds for it to load; which is guaranteed to be 59 seconds too long for it to do you any good.

Sweet holy lord christ of the righteous god that he is, Fozzie, I will have all your blessed babies.

Thank you for listening to the player base, you now have my eternal support.

While reloading the module cannot cycle.

Well I screwed that post up...
Second try but a lot smaller:

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For the small small price of making the AAR even more mediocre.

An updated graph.

maybe it should be able to, that would be a nice distinction from the asb

That's why you fit more than one armor repairer.

You're kidding, right? Not only is the AAR inferior, it can't be stacked. ASBs can be stacked. And your solution is to stack even-more-inferior modules on top of this?

I don't even... what are you... how do you... in what alternate version of reality does this make sense to you?

Do you not realize how absurdly overpowered it would be if the large ancillary armor repairer was as powerful as the x-large ancillary shield booster with how many more tanking slots armor gets? Your graph is meaningless as armor tanks differently. It's just as meaningless as the guy's image comparing the medium ancillary armor repairer to the x-large ancillary shield booster.

So what? That ASB becomes almost useless once it's out of charges. An armor tank will now easily outlast that and easily tank your 500 DPS BC. After these changes a myrmidon will be able to tank as well as a battleship used to. The hyperion will be able to deal and tank over 1.1k DPS, if you have good skills. Even better if you overload things, especially with that new rig.

Quit trying to make the ancillary armor repairer a godly module. CCP isn't stupid.

So what? That ASB becomes almost useless once it's out of charges. An armor tank will now easily outlast that and easily tank your 500 DPS BC.

Again, you are comparing ONE large AAR to ONE XL ASB and saying armor sucks because of it. Are you two really that stupid? Armor does not tank the same way shields do. That ASB will go through it's loaded boosters well before the armor tank breaks in this magical 1v1. That shield ship will die before it reloads it's ASB, but the armor tank wouldn't need to reload yet.

Again, you are comparing ONE large AAR to ONE XL ASB and saying armor sucks because of it. Are you two really that stupid? Armor does not tank the same way shields do. That ASB will go through it's loaded boosters well before the armor tank breaks in this magical 1v1. That shield ship will die before it reloads it's ASB, but the armor tank wouldn't need to reload yet.

Feel free to compare 1x large AAR + 2x LARs to 2x XL-ASB if you'd like.

Reducing medium and large armor rep cycle time is definitely an option, either for 1.1 or in a subsequent iteration.

Hyperion with ions and void, two webs, mwd, scrambler, cap booster, 1x LAR II, 1xLAAR, damage control, two EANMS, one damage mod: Tanks over 1.2k DPS and deals over 1.1k DPS.

Yeah... Dual Rep with one cap booster. Lemme know how that works out for you. And props on using overheat for your base tank numbers. Then again, that might be why you only need one cap booster, cuz either you land exactly on your target and tackle them, or you die... horribly. Cuz the awesome Void range is ~11km while the Mael is hitting out to ~34km with faction ammo and selectable damage type (Hype meet Fusion). Plus the Mael's tank is quite a bit higher than 1.2k DPS when overheating... and it lasts longer overheating than the LARs do.

Facts are terrible things.

I sincerly hope if this occurs that the cap use drops similarly, otherwise it negates all the advantage of the dropped rep cycle.
We already have a crazy situation with Armour Reps where the higher your repair skill, the more capacitor your repairs use.

Do you even play Eve? Do you know what falloff means? What is this fit that allows your maelstrom to tank over 1.2k DPS using one ASB at a time? I also said I overloaded the ASB in my calculation of the tank, not just the armor tank. Using all weapons, tank, and EW modules for over five minutes on one cap booster isn't enough?

Um. If you can't break 1.2K DPS tank on a Maelstrom I don't even know what to tell you. No, really.

-Liang

OK.

Hyperion with ions and void, two webs, mwd, scrambler, cap booster, 1x LAR II, 1xLAAR, damage control, two EANMS, one damage mod: Tanks over 1.2k DPS and deals over 1.1k DPS.

With two tech 2 LARs and a LAAR it will tank over 1.5k DPS, but guns have to be downgraded. Can the maelstrom tank like that without using both XL ASBs at the same time while having a MWD and warp disruptor? Definitely not. It tanks a little less than 1k. That maelstrom is definitely gimping CPU fitting two XL-ASBs.

Oh, this is while overloading the XL-ASB and the LAAR. With the new overload rig for armor it will be even better.

We're switching the AAR to use nanite repair paste instead of cap boosters. What we're looking at now is for them to hold 8 reps worth of paste, with the smalls eating 1 per cycle, the mediums eating 5 and the larges eating 10.

It doesn't really matter what I say with the direction you people are trying to take this. Whatever I come up with you people will simply say, "well this ship and fitting at X distance will counter that armor tank so armor tanking is still broken." I already explained why directly comparing a single medium or large ancillary armor repairer to an XL ancillary shield booster is stupid. There's far more to take into consideration, which is what I was trying to get at.

Do you even play Eve? Do you know what falloff means? What is this fit that allows your maelstrom to tank over 1.2k DPS using one ASB at a time? I also said I overloaded the ASB in my calculation of the tank, not just the armor tank. Using all weapons, tank, and EW modules for over five minutes on one cap booster on the hyperion isn't enough?