A great post on ways to improve upon PvP scanning.

I normally use 1 dsp to cover system and then 7 core probes for scanning down the sigs, disable the dsp when needed. While i like many of the probe changes and am not opposed to the new system. My only issue is not having anything to cover extremely large ranges. If you can explain why dsp's are pointless then maybe i'd be fine with the idea.

Dedication to the exploration way of life.

That seems to subjective to be actionable, unless the fundamental meaning is to make it tedious to the point of discouraging participation. I'd prefer that not to be the goal.

5) While you're at it, a slider to select D-scan range would be awesome, and it should be in AU to match the UI overlay info.

I'd prefer it not to be the goal as well. I don't think what I described need to be tedious. I do like the ability to launch multiple probes in pre-set patterns at the push of a button.

What I don't like is the simplified nature of what we're getting. 2 probe types, 2 formations that I don't currently use. The loss of an 8th probe which offered multiple different methods to scan, including 2 sigs at a time. I'm all for getting rid of tedium, but not at the expense of deeper gameplay. It takes skill to lay out 8 probes in the pattern I want with the probes I want. I'll concede it can be tedious to spend <30 seconds to setup your probes, but if you're going to take away something that required skill due to dedicating myself to learing how to actually lay them out at a decent speed then replace it with something else that requires skill, not just a click.

i'm little confused
please correct me if i mistake something,
they delate dsp, but give new Sensor Overlay Scan wich should work like dps,
ofcorse it not work yet like dsp but ccp work on it?
and they do this becouse they wish to make from scaning more simple thing, with out waiting for astrometics 5?
or they not plan to improve this more and leave it like is it rigth now, with hope there will be any riot?

To clear your confusion, they want to give ALL players equal footing in KNOWING how many IDs are in any system no matter how small or large the system is which replaces the DSP uses. However, you still need skills to scan faster. Yes, scanning is kind of fast for new players, but skilled players can do it even faster. The actual scan time for analysis is the same 5-10 seconds, the only thing that is making it faster is the better scan deviation and strength.

Everyone is reacting negatively to this new interface because it is COMPLETELY alien to how we think of EVE and sometimes that doesnt sit well with players. However, I think its a good change. Skills in EVE allow players to have an advantage over others, this is the essence of the game, but when that gap is too large...it needs fixed.

Although some players enjoy taking time to actually sit and scan, some of us (including me) would rather spend our time running the sites we scan rather then taking that whole time to scan. I don't want to spend 70% of my time scanning and 30% running sites. With the new change its more like 50-50 now and that allows players to run MORE sites in less time and thus make more money.

This is completely untrue, well, except for the part where you say you can't scan. I believe that.

The interface is not alien. It is completely understandable and it's incredibly easy. It is one step from press buttan get sig since you might have to move the probe set. It takes less time to get a sig than to request one from an agent in station. That's what you really want anyway.

No...but I don't want to spend valuable skill time to train lvl 5 in everything in order to scan anything half decently either.

You don't need level 5 to scan anything decently. That's possible because I learned about probe placement and how to read my scans by actually working at learning how to do it.

The way things are now on SISI I could probably scan out a COSMOS drug site with a noob character.

Things are not looking better if all I need to do is press a button and 7 probes pop out in optimal arrangement and just drag it over to the sig.

The earlier comments about making it a single sphere makes a lot of sense if we're going this way.

Currently (on my main) I am running around scanning in a Vexor, I have astrometrics 4, support skills to 3, my ship is fit with a sisters probe launcher and 1 T1 Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade.
With this setup I was able to grab a 2.5% signal in about 3~5 min.
If I were to be using my scanning alt with the new changes it would have taken me less than 1 min to pinpoint that singal.
The Odyssey system makes scanning way to easy and destroyes it place as a full profession.
Leave our skills alone.
Give us back our DSP.
Leave us with 8 porbes.
Remove non 100% signals form the Sensor Overlay.

I like being able to see in space if there are any signatures to scan down before I bother wasting time to launch probes.

This is the exact reason that they should be removed, that is not exploring that borders the realm of farming sites.

This is the exact reason that they should be removed, that is not exploring that borders the realm of farming sites.

I doubt it. An 8th probe make virtually zero difference on scan result strength in the current system.

Thank you very much for the response. I've typically used dscanning and proximity to celestials as landmarks for this purpose, but it seems like this may be faster?