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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
860
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:22:00 -
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Enochia Starr wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Johnny thorir wrote:RIP moros It's still the best one tbh. Stop trying to fix things that are perfectly fine now.. Now you've just ruined lowsec fights, thanks m8. RIP EVE
lol, not being able to own everything as reliably with dropping dreads ruins low sec pvp? Terrible. BYDI (Shadow cartel) Recruitment open!
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Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2865
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:22:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:To all those going "wah wah wah you always nerf Gallente"
CCP hates Gallente, Caldari, Amarr and Minmatar according to the players.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction. Transmission Lost
486
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:22:00 -
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RIFT TORPEDO EXPLOSION VELOCITY: 20m/s WITHOUT SIEGE MODULE PENALTY
AEON VELOCITY: 60m/s
CAN YOU SEE THE PROBLEM?
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |

Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
187
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:26:00 -
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Rana Tekkren wrote:Nerf, nerf, nerf.
The only thing that is happening lately with ship "balancing" is nerfing the **** out of everything ppl. train for. As much as people don't want to hear it: nerfs reduce power creep in Eve, so by all means nerf away. I'd rather have a ship doing less (damage, speed, tracking, etc.) than to have an OP-of-the-month arms race because everyone wants their ships buffed until all ships are so comical in their stats that it's not even worth playing the game anymore.
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Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
383
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:27:00 -
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Oh and maybe fix that shooting a pos shield doesnt require you to lock/shot the pos itself under it .That +20km realy hurts some weapon systems. |

Bagehi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
172
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:27:00 -
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Strata Maslav wrote: As a WH lvl 5 Gallente Dread pilot this hurts but I not upset as this nerf was a required for balance. On string of captial balance do feel that supercapitals need great vulnerabilities to sub capitals to force alliance to support supercaptials with smaller ships or risk massive vulnerability.
Those XL tracking nerfs are going to make titans exceedingly vulnerable to subcaps. |

Gabriel Karade
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
101
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:28:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:wallenbergaren wrote:Nerfing the Moros tracking is fine, it could be nerfed more TBH, but why gut the optimal? You can't even hit a large POS in optimal with close range ammo now. Kind of silly IMO. At 31km with antimatter and two range scripted TCs it loses 3% of its dps. Hardly crippling. Well longer term hopefully you guys will revisit the POS 'shield' mechanics.
It seems pretty silly that, to shoot the shield, your shots have to magically pass through it to hit the tower beyond - fix that and you fix issues surrounding blasters/drones (of all sizes) right away...
Gallente MkII: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1227770 War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293 |

Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction. Transmission Lost
488
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:28:00 -
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Maximus Andendare wrote:Rana Tekkren wrote:Nerf, nerf, nerf.
The only thing that is happening lately with ship "balancing" is nerfing the **** out of everything ppl. train for. As much as people don't want to hear it: nerfs reduce power creep in Eve, so by all means nerf away. I'd rather have a ship doing less (damage, speed, tracking, etc.) than to have an OP-of-the-month arms race because everyone wants their ships buffed until all ships are so comical in their stats that it's not even worth playing the game anymore. True, however a 15% drop in tracking, in regards to an XL gun, is not a hit with the nerf bat. It's more like a nerf cannonball. Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |

Tarsas Phage
Freight Club Whores in space
172
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:32:00 -
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Ian Harms wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:[quote=wallenbergaren]Nerfing the Moros tracking is fine, it could be nerfed more TBH, but why gut the optimal? You can't even hit a large POS in optimal with close range ammo now. Kind of silly IMO. Capital Hybrid Turret V is a long skill train dude - And now you are proposing to take away most of my time investment for that skill level? Edit - since you are taking away most the the bonus for training it to level V, can I has my investment SP back?
Oh stop being a sniveling weasel. Training Cap Hybrid Turret is +5% damage per level, which this change doesn't effect. You still get 5% more damage. The base damage of the turrets themselves hasn't changed.
Try investing in some tracking implants and boosters instead of this very unbecoming public display of indignation.
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Kacer Xenro
Team Pizza No Holes Barred
13
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:36:00 -
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Oh great, i just finished Siege 5 for a moros.
Now crosstraining into amarr |

Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction. Transmission Lost
488
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:37:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote: Oh stop being a sniveling weasel. Training Cap Hybrid Turret is +5% damage per level, which this change doesn't effect. You still get 5% more damage. The base damage of the turrets themselves hasn't changed.
Try investing in some tracking implants and boosters instead of this very unbecoming public display of indignation.
That's right folks, spend 200mil on implants and hardwires (even if you have something in the slot), and don't forget to take boosters which still haven't been fixed.
Just don't get podded.
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
231
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:37:00 -
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Wormhole PvE will now be done with a Carrier and the Dread will sit in stations and collect dust, like they did for years.
In case anyone is wondering why they are 'balancing' XL weapons. |

Elektrea
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
28
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:39:00 -
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**** the haters Fozzie, these are tweaks that needed to be made  |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1007
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Since ewar does not work on dreads in siege mod any chance you guys can eliminate the firewall by giving capital missiles 99% resistance? Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Bagehi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
173
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote: Oh stop being a sniveling weasel. Training Cap Hybrid Turret is +5% damage per level, which this change doesn't effect. You still get 5% more damage. The base damage of the turrets themselves hasn't changed.
Try investing in some tracking implants and boosters instead of this very unbecoming public display of indignation.
That's right folks, spend 200mil on implants and hardwires (even if you have something in the slot), and don't forget to take boosters which still haven't been fixed. Just don't get podded.
If you're in a dread and you're worried about a couple hundred million in your pod, you are doing it wrong. Seriously, you've spent more on the mods in your high slots than a 5% tracking bonus implant. |

Tarsas Phage
Freight Club Whores in space
174
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote: Oh stop being a sniveling weasel. Training Cap Hybrid Turret is +5% damage per level, which this change doesn't effect. You still get 5% more damage. The base damage of the turrets themselves hasn't changed.
Try investing in some tracking implants and boosters instead of this very unbecoming public display of indignation.
That's right folks, spend 200mil on implants and hardwires (even if you have something in the slot), and don't forget to take boosters which still haven't been fixed. Just don't get podded.
They're there. Use them.
Also: Wormholer complaining about the price of something el oh el.
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1007
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:42:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote: Oh stop being a sniveling weasel. Training Cap Hybrid Turret is +5% damage per level, which this change doesn't effect. You still get 5% more damage. The base damage of the turrets themselves hasn't changed.
Try investing in some tracking implants and boosters instead of this very unbecoming public display of indignation.
That's right folks, spend 200mil on implants and hardwires (even if you have something in the slot), and don't forget to take boosters which still haven't been fixed. Just don't get podded.
Meh I put snakes in a dram clone... Grow a pair. Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |

Enochia Starr
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
58
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:42:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Enochia Starr wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Johnny thorir wrote:RIP moros It's still the best one tbh. Stop trying to fix things that are perfectly fine now.. Now you've just ruined lowsec fights, thanks m8. RIP EVE lol, not being able to own everything as reliably with dropping dreads ruins low sec pvp? Terrible.
Says Shadow Cartel who uses blap dreads like they're going out of style
Yep. |

Vincent Gaines
Cold Moon Destruction. Transmission Lost
488
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:43:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote: Also: Wormholer complaining about the price of something el oh el.
Considering cap escalations will be MUCH more difficult now, the isk will be less.
Bear in mind that this will also affect everyone's T3s. Your prices will rise as supply dwindles.
Also, we tend to get podded quite a bit (it's the most effective way to remove someone from the fight given it's often in their hole)
Not a diplo.-á
The above post was edited for spelling. |

NinjaStyle
hirr RAZOR Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:43:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hello once again everyone. We've got a small package of tweaks to capital weapons to announce, intended to help bring us a little bit closer to balance between the different dreadnoughts.
For the most part you all know the major balance problems with the class, the relative dominance of the Moros and the fact that the Phoenix has extreme difficulty applying damage to moving targets, even a moving carrier. These changes apply directly to the capital blasters, autocannons and pulse lasers, as well as to the siege modules themselves.
These changes are not expected to bring the class into perfect balance, but it should be a step in the right direction and be something we can build upon as we go forward.
X-L Blasters: -15% tracking, -10km optimal, +10km falloff
X-L Autocannons: -10% tracking
X-L Pulses: +6.666% optimal
Citadel missiles: Remove the explosion velocity penalty from siege modules
Let us know what you think!
15% tracking is alot on an allready low tracking amount... ALOT! |

Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
83
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:45:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Oh and maybe fix that shooting a pos shield doesnt require you to lock/shot the pos itself under it .That +20km realy hurts some weapon systems. Now this, would be an epic change. It would make a huge amount of sense, look a hell of a lot better and open up some large changes to POS warfare. |

Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
258
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:47:00 -
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Kacer Xenro wrote:Oh great, i just finished Siege 5 for a moros.
Now crosstraining into amarr
While I'm guessing thats somewhat in jest - theres a fair point in there - Eve has always been about playing the long game and far too many changes recently have made a big difference to things people will have spent time working and planning towards. Eventually people may become reluctant to invest too much in working towards a long term goal in Eve (and possibly lose interest in the game) wary of arbitary changes making all their efforts a waste of time before or shortly after getting there. To a certain extent its unavoidable but its something that seems to have been forgotten a little too much of late. |

Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
216
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:50:00 -
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We're almost there.
One day the Phoenix will rise from it's ashes and claim it's rightful place as Lord of Dreadnaughts!
Muhahaha.
*rubs hands* |

Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:51:00 -
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Roime wrote:Mr Floydy wrote:To all those going "wah wah wah you always nerf Gallente"
CCP hates Gallente, Caldari, Amarr and Minmatar according to the players.
CCP loves the jove. |

Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box Urine Alliance
85
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:52:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:RIFT TORPEDO EXPLOSION VELOCITY: 20m/s WITHOUT SIEGE MODULE PENALTY
AEON VELOCITY: 60m/s
CAN YOU SEE THE PROBLEM?
43.5 after bonuses are applied. Also, how often will you see motherships actually moving? lol |

Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
83
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Wormhole PvE will now be done with a Carrier and the Dread will sit in stations and collect dust, like they did for years.
In case anyone is wondering why they are 'balancing' XL weapons.
lol. You carry on believing that ;)
Tarsas Phage wrote:They're there. Use them.
Also: Wormholer complaining about the price of something el oh el.
Puzzled by that comment, I thought us wormholers are usually accused of having too much isk to spend! :D |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
3571
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:01:00 -
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Vincent Gaines wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote: Also: Wormholer complaining about the price of something el oh el.
Considering cap escalations will be MUCH more difficult now, the isk will be less. Bear in mind that this will also affect everyone's T3s. Your prices will rise as supply dwindles. Also, we tend to get podded quite a bit (it's the most effective way to remove someone from the fight given it's often in their hole)
If the price goes back up maybe I'll start farming in C2s again. Currently I'm "just making ends meet" with patch speculation trading. I think I could buy and fit a Titan with the last one. 
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
255
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:02:00 -
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Rroff wrote:Kacer Xenro wrote:Oh great, i just finished Siege 5 for a moros.
Now crosstraining into amarr While I'm guessing thats somewhat in jest - theres a fair point in there - Eve has always been about playing the long game and far too many changes recently have made a big difference to things people will have spent time working and planning towards. Eventually people may become reluctant to invest too much in working towards a long term goal in Eve (and possibly lose interest in the game) wary of arbitary changes making all their efforts a waste of time before or shortly after getting there. To a certain extent its unavoidable but its something that seems to have been forgotten a little too much of late.
People have been saying this about changes since I started playing in 2006. |

Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
83
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:03:00 -
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The only way to avoid people training up to something that ends up disappointing would be to never change anything in the game. Does anyone really want that? Thought not. |

iskflakes
458
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Posted - 2013.05.17 19:06:00 -
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This nerf is too extreme. - |
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