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CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 7813	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:30:00 - [1] - Quote Interdictors ahoy! The single biggest buff these guys are getting is from the already announced warp speed changes, where their 8au/s will allow them to get on their targets extremely quickly. Otherwise we've focused on getting the three under-performers up closer to the Sabre's power level while maintaining their own distinctive styles. The class has lost a fair bit of sig across the board, and the Heretic, Flycatcher and Eris all see very significant mass decreases which lead to them gaining a lot of speed while under mwd. SPECIFICS HERETIC - The Heretic gets its missile bonuses applied to lights as well as rockets, and gains an extra launcher for people who want to fit it with damage in mind. It also receives an armor resistance bonus that helps it compete with the Eris for armor tanked dictoring. The combination of the mass decrease and the base speed increase lead to MWD speeds much faster than it currently enjoys and much quicker turns. Amarr Destroyer Bonuses: 10% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile velocity per level (was 5% bonus to rocket explosion velocity per level) 5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile damage per level (was 5% bonus to rocket damage per level) Interdictors Bonuses: 4% bonus to armor resistances per level (was 5% bonus to missile velocity per level) 10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level Role bonus: Can fit Interdiction Sphere Launchers Slot layout: 8H, 3M, 3L; 4 turrets, 7(+1) launchers Fittings: 60(+3) PWG, 240(+10) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 600 / 750(-1) / 700 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 750(+187.5) / 375s() / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 310(+11) / 3.5(-0.019) / 1280000(-91000) / 6.21(-0.48) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 525 / 7(+1) Sensor strength: 12(+2) Radar Signature radius: 75(-8) ============================================================================= FLYCATCHER - Flycatcher gets its kinetic damage and missile precision bonuses increased significantly in strength, as well as picking up some fittings and shield HP. It also enjoys a big mass decrease which improve MWD speeds a lot, but I've upped the inertia as well to keep turning speeds in line. Caldari Destroyer Bonuses: 5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile explosion radius per level (was 3% bonus to light missile explosion velocity) 10% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile Velocity per level Interdictors Bonuses: 10% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile kinetic damage per level (was 5%) 10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level Role bonus: Can fit Interdiction Sphere Launchers Slot layout: 8H, 5M, 1L; 2(-1) turrets, 6 launchers Fittings: 60(+4) PWG, 270(+5) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800(+49) / 600 / 650(-1) Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 650(+150) / 325s(-8.33) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 315 / 3.4(+0.53) / 1350000(-222000) / 6.36s(+0.1) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 60km / 475 / 7 Sensor strength: 14(+2) Gravimetric Signature radius: 80(-10) ============================================================================= ERIS - Eris is the next in the new Roden designs. Big bonuses to both missiles and hybrid turrets allow the highest damage of all the dictors if one chooses. However for most normal uses the big Eris changes are the huge amount of mass it lost (leading to much much improved speed and agility) and the extra fittings. The 10mn AB plated fleet fits will be much improved after Rubicon. Gallente Frigate Bonuses: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret falloff per level 5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile explosion radius per level (was 10% bonus to small hybrid tracking per level) Interdictors Bonuses: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret, Rocket, and Light Missile damage per level (was 5% bonus to thermal rocket and light missile damage) 10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level Role bonus: Can fit Interdiction Sphere Launchers Slot layout: 8H, 2M, 4L; 4(-1) turrets, 4 launchers Fittings: 64(+2) PWG, 210(+16) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 650(-1) / 700 / 750(-1) Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 700(+231.25) / 350s(+37.5) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 305(-3) / 3.52(+0.145) / 1250000(-213000) / 6.1s(-1.11) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 5 / 5 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 500 / 7 Sensor strength: 13(+2) Magnetometric Signature radius: 85(-1) ============================================================================= Sabre - The Sabre is the baseline for these ships and is seeing the smallest changes. We're taking away a bit of its agility to put it in line with the others, but giving it some more shield HP and a significant drop in sig to compensate. Minmatar Destroyer Bonuses: 5% bonus to Small Projectile Turret Damage per level 10% bonus to Small Projectile Turret tracking speed per level Interdictors Bonuses: 10% bonus to Small Projectile Turret falloff per level 10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level Role bonus: Can fit Interdiction Sphere Launchers Slot layout: 8H, 4M, 2L; 7 turrets, 1(-1) launchers Fittings: 58 PWG, 230(+2) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 750(+50) / 650(-1) / 600 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 600 / 300s(+8.333) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 320 / 3.6(+0.132) / 1285000 / 6.41s(+0.23) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 45km / 550 / 7(+1) Sensor strength: 11(+2) Ladar Signature radius: 70(-5) Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Sala Cameron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion 119	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:31:00 - [2] - Quote FIRST
Gummi Worm ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 24	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:33:00 - [3] - Quote FIRST page
Rendiff Funk Soul Brothers High Rollers 32	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:34:00 - [4] - Quote I might actually have train for these now.
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1528	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:34:00 - [5] - Quote Why do all races have missile ships now? I don't get it.. We don't see lasers or Ac's being flavour for other races :S BYDI recruitment closed-ish
Lukas Rox Aideron Technologies 34	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:34:00 - [6] - Quote Reserved for now... Blogging about EVE on http://pozniak.pl/
Mioelnir Cataclysm Enterprises Easily Offended 134	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:39:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Sabre .... Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 600 / 300s(+8.333) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 320 / 3.6(+0.132) / 1285000 / 6.41s(+0.23) How does this work? Cap stays the same, recharge time goes up, but cap/s improves? Also, I weep whenever a Minmatar ship is the least-agile in a ship class. But this all looks interesting, can't wait to try it on Sisi.
Kahega Amielden Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 982	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:41:00 - [8] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: Why do all races have missile ships now? I don't get it.. We don't see lasers or Ac's being flavour for other races :S I believe the idea was always that missiles aren't something completely race-specific. It's just that most hulls in the game were awful, and the best Caldari hulls were missileboats, so everyone got used to Caldari using missiles and everyone else not using anything.
BAJRAN BALI Rabid Ninja Space Monkey Inc. Monkeys with Guns. 21	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:42:00 - [9] - Quote Love the changes!
Capt Retard Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:43:00 - [10] - Quote And yet another ... Buff everything, nerf Minmatar. Holy crap - its like the end of days for minmatar. Missile boats ahoy - with no range. Autocannon nerformama - TEs down the pan. Worst Caps by a staggering margin. Command ship loveliness perforated with shotgun. Lowest DPS marauder FTL (for the loss). Dump on minmatars speed and agility advantages - they cant compensate with worst weapon systems. The is no 'flavour' in the racial minmatar its porridge (with lots of salt).


CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 7815	Posted - 2013.10.15 13:49:00 - [11] - Quote Mioelnir wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Sabre .... Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 600 / 300s(+8.333) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 320 / 3.6(+0.132) / 1285000 / 6.41s(+0.23) How does this work? Cap stays the same, recharge time goes up, but cap/s improves? Also, I weep whenever a Minmatar ship is the least-agile in a ship class. But this all looks interesting, can't wait to try it on Sisi. Typo on my part, I didn't have the change in the Sabres base cap (+162.5) in the OP. Fixed now, thanks. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Leppales Beddelver Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 19	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:00:00 - [12] - Quote I feel like this doesn't go far enough on a class that really needs more major changes. They all seem very similar.
War Kitten Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx 4584	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:02:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Mioelnir wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Sabre .... Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 600 / 300s(+8.333) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 320 / 3.6(+0.132) / 1285000 / 6.41s(+0.23) How does this work? Cap stays the same, recharge time goes up, but cap/s improves? Also, I weep whenever a Minmatar ship is the least-agile in a ship class. But this all looks interesting, can't wait to try it on Sisi. Typo on my part, I didn't have the change in the Sabres base cap (+162.5) in the OP. Fixed now, thanks. Need one more edit Fozzie: Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 60(+162.5) / 300s(+8.333) / 2(+0.5) I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Tenaris Zeratul The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:05:00 - [14] - Quote New Eris is garbage. Please make it either missiles or turrets.
Harvey James Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 542	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:06:00 - [15] - Quote i love the way you say significant sig radius reduction and then just scrape 5 off... T1 destroyers all have much lower sig radius than these ranging from 56 - 72 T2 interdictors 75 - 85 after a supposed significant sig radius reduction ... LOL at you Fozzie Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Ribeye Jaksom ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 18	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:06:00 - [16] - Quote nice sabre nerf. good thing you left them so every frigate in the game can still pwn them 1v1. pathetic.
Drake Doe Flatulaction 277	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:06:00 - [17] - Quote Why not make the Eris a drone boat so they're not all so similar? "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Hannott Thanos Notorious Legion 677	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:07:00 - [18] - Quote Not sure about the Eris to be honest. Sure, it has the option to get the highest DPS, but I really don't like the forced split between weapons. Why does Minmatar T1 get 7 highs with 6 guns and 6 missiles and double bonus to both, and a T2 Gallente ship gets 8 highs with 4/4, forcing a split in MagStab/BallisticControl, the very thing that was the reason for the Minmatar type split bonuses/fittings? Maybe it works on a ship of this size, but I fear for the Roden line if this is the new standard. Either the Enyo will become a 4 highslot 2 missile 2 guns or it will have to swap manufacturer.
Kassasis Dakkstromri Terra Incognita Insidious Empire 133	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:07:00 - [19] - Quote It just so happens that I am totally ready and skilled to fly these... just as this is coming to light.... Very pleased - will make lots of Tears! Yarr!
Grarr Dexx Snuff Box 289	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:08:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Mioelnir wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Sabre .... Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 600 / 300s(+8.333) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 320 / 3.6(+0.132) / 1285000 / 6.41s(+0.23) How does this work? Cap stays the same, recharge time goes up, but cap/s improves? Also, I weep whenever a Minmatar ship is the least-agile in a ship class. But this all looks interesting, can't wait to try it on Sisi. Typo on my part, I didn't have the change in the Sabres base cap (+162.5) in the OP. Fixed now, thanks. You put 60 instead of 600. Otherwise, this looks nice. The armor resists on the heretic especially, since I have memories of putting 2 400mm's and 2 c-type adaptives on an AB eris to go along with an ahac gang and actually surviving.

Harvey James Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 544	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:12:00 - [21] - Quote is there any chance of sorting out the weird slot layouts? Flycatcher has 1 low slot .... Saber has 2 lowslots... Eris has 2 mids yet Heretic has 3mid and 3 lows ... the balance being what exactly here???? feel free to remove a few highs to spread around a bit and just increase the damage bonuses or the extra lows could replace the damage with damage mods .... Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Lorac Gemini The Order of Forever 1	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:13:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Gallente Frigate Bonuses: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret falloff per level 5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile explosion radius per level (was 10% bonus to small hybrid tracking per level) I think you meant Gallente Destroyer instead of Frigate. Looks good though!
Harvey James Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 544	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:13:00 - [23] - Quote Also their tank is pretty woeful about 25% less than T1 destroyers along with a much larger sig radius ...... Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Danika Princip Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team 1810	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:14:00 - [24] - Quote Capt ** wrote: And yet another ... Buff everything, nerf Minmatar. Holy crap - its like the end of days for minmatar. Missile boats ahoy - with no range. Autocannon nerformama - TEs down the pan. Worst Caps by a staggering margin. Command ship loveliness perforated with shotgun. Lowest DPS marauder FTL (for the loss). Dump on minmatars speed and agility advantages - they cant compensate with worst weapon systems. The is no 'flavour' in the racial minmatar its porridge (with lots of salt). Possibly THE most fitting name for a character ever devised.
Forlorn Wongraven Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 86	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:15:00 - [25] - Quote Current fleet fits remains, marginal changes. I am pleased also even buffed that this is even worth posting and a "feature" of Rubicon. Shadoo > whoever was the first nyx on grid Shadoo > THANK GOD YOU ARE A SMART MAN and fitted the best tank in PL Shadoo > (ie. cyno)
Jack bubu GK inc. Pandemic Legion 461	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:17:00 - [26] - Quote i was hoping for more radical changes that improve survivability, atleast a similar role bonus like the interceptor MWD signature bonus would have been great. as it is they remain throwaway ships you put your alt in and hope you get a bubble off before you die.
Vanilla Vila labour anal 1	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:17:00 - [27] - Quote Another dumb 1/2 guns/1/2 missiles boat. Scrap the Eris.
Harvey James Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 545	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:19:00 - [28] - Quote Jack bubu wrote: i was hoping for more radical changes that improve survivability, atleast a similar role bonus like the interceptor MWD signature bonus would have been great. as it is they remain throwaway ships you put your alt in and hope you get a bubble off before you die. mm... at least they get a role bonus the EAF don't despite being a T2 role based ship .. go figure Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 1815	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:20:00 - [29] - Quote ITT: Sabre is the Rifter of dictors, and still the only one with enough fittings to do basically whatever it wants thanks to the miniscule fitting requirements of autocannons. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter.
Hannott Thanos Notorious Legion 678	Posted - 2013.10.15 14:23:00 - [30] - Quote Gallente Destroyer Bonuses: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret falloff and Rocket velocity per level 5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile explosion radius per level Interdictors Bonuses: 10% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret, Rocket, and Light Missile damage per level 10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level Role bonus: Can fit Interdiction Sphere Launchers Slot layout: 8H, 2M, 4L; 7(+2) turrets, 7(+3) launchers Fittings: 64(+2) PWG, 210(+16) CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 600(-51) / 700 / 800(+49) Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 700(+231.25) / 350s(+37.5) / 2(+0.5) Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 305(-3) / 3.52(+0.145) / 1250000(-213000) / 6.1s(-1.11) Drones (bandwidth / bay): 5 / 5 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 500 / 7 Sensor strength: 13(+2) Magnetometric Signature radius: 85(-1) Basically, 7 launchers and 7 turrets with bonus to range of both systems. I would fly this, but not the proposed one



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