Nice try with the spin.
Total revamp, now that I have caught you in your original lie.

Too bad I did copy your post so we could all see your coverup.

You may not find this as amusing as I do, but most of these questions were answered in the AMA.

Yes, as disappointed as you may or may not be, those would be the answers I mentioned. I never said they were amazing answers.

Marauders(re-cap)
"I haven't flown one yet because I'm super cheap and scared to lose money."

I think there's a couple of problems with you OP, but I can see that there's a bit of confusion stemming from how quickly the question got answered in a AMA format.

I'll start by confirming that some kind of change to the Serpentis and Blood Raider web bonus is something we have been thinking about for a while.

Web strength bonuses are some of the most powerful bonuses available to any ship, which makes them very interesting and valuable but also makes some of their results problematic. Interestingly, the way the strength of the bonus presents itself is very different in different contexts. At the frigate level with the Daredevil, the power of 90% webs primarily comes from range control. At the battleship level with the Vindicator it primarily comes from transversal control (especially when used as a force multiplier). At the cruiser level it falls in the middle and ends up being (relatively speaking) less powerful and less oppressive as a result.
I am not going to try to claim that we have our plan of action worked out, and there will be plenty of discussion before we implement our Pirate ship balance pass.

One thing I can say for sure though is that we consider the solo Daredevil and the force multiplier Vindicator to both be too strong in their current states, and that we recognize that the primary source of their disproportionate power is the web bonus (for different reasons as I said above).

Another thing I can say for sure is that we will never base our design decisions on what Nyancat has stockpiled or not stockpiled.

It's funny how some people's idea of "balancing" is "everything should remain exactly as it is right now".

Love this one.
The guy was directly involved in destroying the class, but has never flown one.
Indeed priceless.

Marauders are not destroyed. They are now extremely good. Learn to adapt to change.

What was so wrong with them that they needed alteration?


People weren't using them much before, and to balance them they took off one of the things people liked....in what world does that make sense? Now they have an artificial stat spike to point at as people try them out and ultimately realize that the ship still sucks and its job is like done better by a tengu....just like before....


EDIT: Unless you use a rapid light tengu because that too is now garbage as you sit around for 40 seconds of your life doing nothing at all.

Why is CCP Rise posting these kind of things on 3 party forums and not on the Eve online forums.

Are the eve forums to brutal for him?

Let's not **** this up like the RLML rebalance and instead

change the web bonus to 5%/level instead of 10% and then PUBLICLY TEST IT

One thing I can say for sure though is that we consider the solo Daredevil and the force multiplier Vindicator to both be too strong in their current states, and that we recognize that the primary source of their disproportionate power is the web bonus

I think there's a couple of problems with you OP, but I can see that there's a bit of confusion stemming from how quickly the question got answered in a AMA format.

I'll start by confirming that some kind of change to the Serpentis and Blood Raider web bonus is something we have been thinking about for a while.

Web strength bonuses are some of the most powerful bonuses available to any ship, which makes them very interesting and valuable but also makes some of their results problematic. Interestingly, the way the strength of the bonus presents itself is very different in different contexts. At the frigate level with the Daredevil, the power of 90% webs primarily comes from range control. At the battleship level with the Vindicator it primarily comes from transversal control (especially when used as a force multiplier). At the cruiser level it falls in the middle and ends up being (relatively speaking) less powerful and less oppressive as a result.
I am not going to try to claim that we have our plan of action worked out, and there will be plenty of discussion before we implement our Pirate ship balance pass.

One thing I can say for sure though is that we consider the solo Daredevil and the force multiplier Vindicator to both be too strong in their current states, and that we recognize that the primary source of their disproportionate power is the web bonus (for different reasons as I said above).

Another thing I can say for sure is that we will never base our design decisions on what Nyancat has stockpiled or not stockpiled.

I am telling you right here and right now - my vote will be with my account subscriptions.

I'm sorry, but I cannot and will not agree with this change. Serpentis ships are supposed to be THE brawlers, the best close range ships in game. They have the dps and they have the webs + tracking to apply that dps, but they lack the range of alternatives and they don't have the toughest of tanks. In my view, that's perfectly balanced outside of a certain pve activity.

I don't mind if you mess with Serpentis' tracking, but if you intend to severely reduce or even remove the web bonus, an iconic element of those ships, I will not support that move. I am telling you right here and right now - my vote will be with my account subscriptions.

Go and do as you deem necessary and I'll do so as well.

People actually fly the Ashimmu?

CCP, making all ships in the "sandbox" literally the same, for an unknown reason - perhaps to prevent having to read "feedback" that they "value and consider".
Pathetic.

Only the misguided people that think it somehow out-performs or performs on a level close to either a Curse or a Rapier/Huginn; which it doesn't, but it is easier to get into, so I suppose there is that.

It can find a place in a gate camp, but outside of that it's a pretty stale ship.

This sums it up. So will fedwebs, so sell those too.

What was so wrong with them that they needed alteration?


People weren't using them much before

You realize that for peopel that fly solo or nearly solo, a ship that looks inferior is a much better way to find someone willing to engage?

Flying the best ship is easy... getting fights while flying in the best ship or largest gang is not.

Oh please tell me about literally anyone's willingness to go up against a neut boat, no matter how pointless and stupid in a non-forced engagement. Highsec or not, dudes are going to run if they can.

You would be surprised..... and if they are so fearfull as you said, then they are not useless as you also said. So you are contradicting yourself.