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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.21 15:09:00 -
[661]
Just an fyi:
New ATI windows and linux drivers have been released and initial reports are looking good for really heavy improvements.
ATI driver news
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bunmastahflex
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.08.21 15:32:00 -
[662]
 Originally by: LousyPccGame
Originally by: bunmastahflex
Originally by: El***ER
just a short linky
but unless wine devs stop using /dev/ignore for bugreports it's useless
is there a performance difference between wine and cedega?
There's no differnece, wine is still the base, cedega have added some nice GUI and predefined settings for known games to make it work, which YOU would have to find yourself instead.
You can check out cedega via cvs if you want to.
never ever ever use the cvs, its always broken, and they even say that. i have cedega5, just wanted to know the difference between it and wine.
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ElfeGER
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.21 16:12:00 -
[663]
Originally by: Oveur
For us, it's less than 1% of visitors to eve/myeve that run 98/SE/ME. In fact, we have more people running Linux and Mac visiting us than those three operating systems combined.
hrhr (this is while Eve isn't realy running on those OS and cedega not realy cheap anymore)
maybe it would be possible to use the wine dll files on win98 to allow win98 to use encryption? (someone who uses win98 could check that with the wine devs if needed)
the cedega cvs tree is a joke, just check the last changes made in the dx sections of the code (I think it's over 2 years now)
you can't realy compare the performance as Eve on wine is leaking about 1MB memory per second (seems to be in Eve somewhere as one memory area is filling up with a pretty constant pattern) (I don't realy want to get the win xp home on the laptop again)
also the cursor stuff in wine isn't working that well (cursor deformations, system cursor still present)
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Dwindlehop
F13
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:10:00 -
[664]
Originally by: Sevarus James
Here's "where" to file a support request, but you'll see the one I've put up......a reply seconding is probably moren' enough. That CCP has given the code to transgaming is a great sign.
Transgaming support thread
I seconded your request. I have a feeling that even if I set a month-long skill to train, Dragon still won't work before it finishes, so I'd better dig out a copy of Windows from someplace. I wish we had gotten Eve officially supported before now. Perhaps this will be the impetus for all us Linux Eve players to get Eve officially supported by TransGaming, finally.
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Zevrik
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:35:00 -
[665]
The problem is what the hell do we have to do to get it supported officialy? The 40+ page active thread on their forums isn't enough, the multiple unanswered support requests seem to not be an indication to them that we actively play Eve on Cedega.
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Commander Zevrik Obikai
Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Dwindlehop
F13
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:39:00 -
[666]
I had in mind everyone who plays under Cedega voting for Eve in the same month---the month that Eve breaks. If we can't push the vote through then, we'll never be able to get it done. |
rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:07:00 -
[667]
2 votes on the transgaming site have made it through to the devteam.
All we can do now is wait 
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:03:00 -
[668]
Just a short answer to the support issue. When I originally put out the support request for dragon support, Wulfram with transgaming acknowledged it by replying that they were aware of the issue, that there is no current fix and that they were working on it. He answered this within a day of my support request. When I look at those requests, a lot of em' are dups of stuff already answered or in the pipe.
The newer eve requests I've seen basically duplicate the ones originally placed.
My suggestion is to second/third/reply to the polling regarding EVE. That said, CCP has already indicated that they are working with transgaming informally and Oveur's latest blog indicated a STRONG desire to support more OS's as well as yet again direct mention of transgaming.
Last time transgaming fixed EVE, they officially mentioned it in the release info (5.1.1) even though its not a "supported" application on their listing.
When it comes to this particular issue, being vocal, but polite seems to me to be the best course of action at this point.
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Sirisu
Gallente
Cataclysm Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.22 08:16:00 -
[669]
It will work very soon... I'm sure ;)
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Sirisu
Gallente
Cataclysm Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.22 17:43:00 -
[670]
Try the new 5.2.5 release of Cedega. EVE will work again :)
Release Nodes
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Zevrik
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.22 18:31:00 -
[671]
Originally by: Sirisu
Try the new 5.2.5 release of Cedega. EVE will work again :)
Release Nodes
Ok I stick my foot in my mouth and will stop bad talking Transgaming.
That is most impressive, and they fixed the timer bug!
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Commander Zevrik Obikai
Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Dwindlehop
F13
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Posted - 2006.08.22 19:15:00 -
[672]
That's flabbergasting. I never expected that sort of service. I need to go throw some more money at Transgaming and CCP now.
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Gwmngilfen
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Posted - 2006.08.22 19:46:00 -
[673]
Incredible - I never expected it to be same-day, in all my hopes. I think we need to go over to the Transgaming forums 'en masse' and post a vote of thanks to the team.
Gwm
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ElfeGER
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:06:00 -
[674]
yeah \o/
fixed after getting the problem served on a silver plate
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.23 02:55:00 -
[675]
Edited by: Sevarus James on 23/08/2006 02:55:40
Quoting Ben Browder:
"....now THATS what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!!"
Holy crap folks. The transgaming fix was out before EVE was fixed....updated...heh heh
Oh, if you folks didn't hear, we've got an OFFICIAL sub forum in the transgaming forums now. No more "other" for EVE!
--grinning from ear ta' ear.
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Zevrik
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.23 03:15:00 -
[676]
2.5.2 is looking good so far, corp time is finally working :P
Getting about the same fps, chat windows are scrolling better, but that may be the Dragon client itself.
Havent done any fighting yet, not trusting the server being stable just yet.
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Commander Zevrik Obikai
Fleet Operations, C.N.S. Letalis
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:04:00 -
[677]
Jealous. I'm at work, so have to wait til morning to do any testing.
The corp bug is fixed...how about the agression timer? One thing we won't get to check until downtime is the shutdown timer. Betting this was all the same 'bit of code', so should be working.
As for the speed, fps is still dictated by cpu/gpu and although there are some improvements to the client for efficiency, the graphics engine is still the same one...so until the gfx overhaul part of kali, our boosts are going to be nvidia/ati updates rather than eve.
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falkners
Caldari
0mbrella
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:46:00 -
[678]
Holy crap, now thats what i call "service"!!!
nice job transgaming!!!
Thank you for your help. best regards, falke :) |
rig0r
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:21:00 -
[679]
Well, that was surprising 
They fixed quite a few things, the annoying mousefocus bug is gone too. I suspect all the timers are fixed btw, probably all the same piece of code.
Cedega is well worth the money.
< happy gamer 
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:03:00 -
[680]
Originally by: rig0r
Edited by: rig0r on 23/08/2006 10:58:03
Well, that was surprising
They fixed quite a few things, the annoying mousefocus bug is gone too. I suspect all the timers are fixed btw, probably all the same piece of code.
Cedega is well worth the money.
< happy gamer
edit: shutdown timer works as it should
Good to hear. There actually wasn't a ton of things to fix with the old client...its good to see that the new dragon stuff is running this well.
---looks at clock and wishes work would hurry UP and END! gah. lol.
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Hellequin
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:22:00 -
[681]
Holy mothadoingsomethingto cow! I am a happy guy today. OK so yesterday's downtimes sucked, but when it's all fixed and I can play Eve under Linux with an ATI card and not crash every five minutes, have to mess with full/windowed to get the mouse to work/view player pics I am a happy sod.
Well done CCP/ATI/Transgaming for getting things right for the rest of us for once :)
Yes I'm sure there's still bugs, and it'll no doubt crash on me in a minute now, but still, woohoo!!!
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Megahertz
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Posted - 2006.08.24 09:57:00 -
[682]
Gotta say a big thanks to CCP and Transgaming here guys... after using the Downtime to do a install of gentoo on my second machine and now eventualy getting it working 100% perfeclty with eve i'm soo happy my main machine is gonna be having the wonderful windoze wiped forever so i can enjoy eve in all its liux goodness. One question thought,, anyone managed to get 2 clients running on one machine across 2 screens? how hard is this to do? Thanks guys for restoring my hope in linux once again
Megahertz
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:00:00 -
[683]
Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/08/2006 11:02:45
Originally by: Megahertz
Gotta say a big thanks to CCP and Transgaming here guys... after using the Downtime to do a install of gentoo on my second machine and now eventualy getting it working 100% perfeclty with eve i'm soo happy my main machine is gonna be having the wonderful windoze wiped forever so i can enjoy eve in all its liux goodness. One question thought,, anyone managed to get 2 clients running on one machine across 2 screens? how hard is this to do? Thanks guys for restoring my hope in linux once again
Megahertz
To do 2 separate clients, you need to install another copy of EVE. Either have cedega install another copy into a separate directory, or do this manually (copying the first one into a new ./ directory and have cedega point to it as 'eve2'.
Run each client in a cedega "window" with each copy of EVE running "fullscreen". (This keeps both copies running at decent fps.)
this is one way to accomplish it.
There are other methods including running them fullscreen (for real) and keeping each one on a separate desktop and then set your shortcut keys (in gnome or KDE) to something like alt+1, alt+2, alt+3 and switch between them. (my preferred method. All other non eve stuff is kept in separate virtual desktops and I alt+number between them as needed.
As a happy PS:
Ran a level 4 mordu headhunter mission earlier with a corpmate. (tempest and an armor repping domi). Flawless performance from start to finish. A bazillion targets and then a bazillion cans, and my framerate never dipped below the low 20's at its crazyiest. This was pretty much my acid test for EVE and the new cedega client.
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Renee Cado
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:55:00 -
[684]
Originally by: Sevarus James
Ran a level 4 mordu headhunter mission earlier with a corpmate. (tempest and an armor repping domi). Flawless performance from start to finish. A bazillion targets and then a bazillion cans, and my framerate never dipped below the low 20's at its crazyiest. This was pretty much my acid test for EVE and the new cedega client.
This sounds like a good result of the update for you.
Just like someone else also mentioned some posts above, I have lost about 10-20 FPS because of the update and this kinda makes Eve uncomfortable to play currently. Now i have 10-15 FPS (peeks at 18) outside a station with nothing on the screen but the ship and the station. Before the update i had like 20-30 FPS outside a station.
Docked i now get 20-25 FPS. Before the update i had around 35 FPS.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:59:00 -
[685]
Edited by: Sevarus James on 24/08/2006 13:03:40
Posted my cedega settings and system here:
Cedega settings
Renee, if things are running slower and settings are set optimally, definitely post the info to the support forums of Transgaming. (submit requests here: Linkage )
If they don't know about it, then they cann'a fix it.
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Renee Cado
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.08.24 13:39:00 -
[686]
Originally by: Sevarus James
Posted my cedega settings and system here:
Cedega settings
I had problems (random disconnects and crashes to desktop) running Eve with OS set to Win98 yesterday. But this might have been because of the server having problems in general?
And because CCP said minimum req is Win2k with SP2 i set OS to Win2k in Cedega. This is also where the FPS are messured with.
I am gonna see if i still get the same FPS as before the update with Win98 setting.
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Jai Cee
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:19:00 -
[687]
Under Cedega do you have problems showing player portraits?
I got EVE working under wine but had to give it up because whenever I right clicked on a player to get info such as whether they were hostile in my covops my screen froze for about 30s making it impossible to check a system with more than a couple of people.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:40:00 -
[688]
Originally by: Jai Cee
Under Cedega do you have problems showing player portraits?
I got EVE working under wine but had to give it up because whenever I right clicked on a player to get info such as whether they were hostile in my covops my screen froze for about 30s making it impossible to check a system with more than a couple of people.
With my rig, cedega/EVE is working the same as an XP install. My framerates are even close to native. (inside stations not withstanding, but even they are smooth.)
Portraits, at least with the nvidia drivers are normal. ATI drivers did have problems, but I've seen a few reports that indicate no issues with this version + the new ATI drivers.
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Jai Cee
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:22:00 -
[689]
Fantastic, since I'm using an Nvidia card I think I'll have to give this a spin. My only trouble is I really hate the subscription model of Cedega, paying ú3 a month for soething I'll likely only use for Eve isn't the best
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.08.25 01:20:00 -
[690]
Originally by: Jai Cee
Fantastic, since I'm using an Nvidia card I think I'll have to give this a spin. My only trouble is I really hate the subscription model of Cedega, paying ú3 a month for soething I'll likely only use for Eve isn't the best
then just pretend you're buying a system utility for your computer....pay the subscription, get the application and then cancel. You will have three months of cedega updates before it expires, and it won't cost you anything beyond the initial sub.
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