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rig0r 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.16 16:59:00 - [631] I noticed an FPS drop (+/-10) when using the front USB port for my mouse. I switched to another and have no problems anymore. Eve on Linux
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.16 17:41:00 - [632] Edited by: Grimster on 16/08/2006 17:41:39 Originally by: Renee Cado Originally by: Sevarus James To Grimster: I don't know if you saw Schotty's response in the transgaming forums, but just in case here's the link he pasted you for the mouse fix: The link to the "Evemousefix" is not working anymore! Do you know why? Mousage The mouse link is in that page under "fixes". You mean the linky? I've posted one for you on the Cedega forum, alternatively, click Here
falkners	Posted - 2006.08.16 17:46:00 - [633] Your link doesn't work for me also, Grimster ;)
Renee Cado M'8'S	Posted - 2006.08.16 18:21:00 - [634] Edited by: Renee Cado on 16/08/2006 18:25:39 Originally by: Grimster You mean the linky? I've posted one for you on the Cedega forum, alternatively, click Here Is also not working for me. Also when i add the missed h of http...
ElfeGER Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.16 21:42:00 - [635] maybe the USB mouse problems come from a very high USB poll rate (check this out and play with the values a bit)
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.16 23:31:00 - [636] Edited by: Grimster on 16/08/2006 23:32:39 OHNOES! h put in (oh well slap me for a newb), will work now (for most people), Renee, can you download any files? I can still download the original linky with no trouble at all. Also scored on my first two Linux based kills tonight - cheers again people.
Wysia Minmatar Neuronal Loneliness	Posted - 2006.08.17 04:43:00 - [637] Originally by: El*ER maybe the USB mouse problems come from a very high USB poll rate (check this out and play with the values a bit) Oh, you're my God ! Will try asap :)
falkners	Posted - 2006.08.17 05:05:00 - [638] Originally by: Grimster Edited by: Grimster on 16/08/2006 23:32:39 OHNOES! h put in (oh well slap me for a newb), will work now (for most people), Renee, can you download any files? I can still download the original linky with no trouble at all. Also scored on my first two Linux based kills tonight - cheers again people. Well, I can download the file, but it its broken to me. (it's not the tar.bz2 file it should be)
Renee Cado M'8'S	Posted - 2006.08.17 07:29:00 - [639] Originally by: Grimster Edited by: Grimster on 16/08/2006 23:32:39 OHNOES! h put in (oh well slap me for a newb), will work now (for most people), Renee, can you download any files? Yes, sure i can. :D I can download your file but when i try bunzipping it, i get: "It's not in bz2 format". If i open the file with a texteditor i can see some errormessage about the file not being available. You can see the filecontent here: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/2906/ Originally by: Grimster Edited by: Grimster on 16/08/2006 23:32:39 I can still download the original linky with no trouble at all. I can't. I still get an 404 error message. Originally by: Grimster Edited by: Grimster on 16/08/2006 23:32:39 Also scored on my first two Linux based kills tonight - cheers again people. It wasnt me, so grats. :D
farfrael	Posted - 2006.08.17 19:29:00 - [640] Dragon working? I know somebody was having problems running the new code on the test server, has anybody managed to run it? /emote crosses fingers very very hard hoping it works
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.17 23:37:00 - [641] Not yet. I'm downloading latest test version as I type this to give it another go, but unfortunately it breaks cedega, and until elfiger gets in here to refute me, it breaks wine as of 0.9.19 as well. There may be some hacks for wine soon, but no definite word yet. As for cedega, I have JUST put in another support request with the entirety of Oveur's blog regarding the update. Right now, if you really wanna play EVE after the 22nd, at least for awhile, we're gonna have to drag out an XP box. This is truly annoying to me, as Kieron posted after E3 about the "cool" stuff we EVE linux/mac types were going to be getting "soon". I sure hope this wasn't he was referring to. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Ryushe JuBa Corp	Posted - 2006.08.18 01:33:00 - [642] Hi there, I just became a customer of Transgaming, and thus installed the latest version on my Debian machine. I installed EVE, which was painfully slow, and set it up based on what I've read in this thread so far in the Cedega GUI. So I start EVE, and I see the login window, which is displayed as a box within a window with a black background (size of the window is 1024x768). I fill in my details, after which I seem to log in, but it keeps hanging at "Entering Character Selection". With hanging I mean the loading bar completely fills up, and then it just sits there. I can access the setup window when I press esc. tho and quit the game via the 'quit game' button. The setup window IS being cropped for some reason. Text on the left and right is missing. For instance, I see under the graphics tab: 'DAPTER AND DEVICE' instead of 'ADAPTER AND DEVICE'. Another thing of note: I can choose the full screen option, but it simply seems to ignore it. When I select the full screen option, and press close window, then press esc to access the settings window again, it still says Window Mode. Technical details: P4 3.2ghz 2GB Ram nVidia GeForce 5950 Ultra Debian Unstable (yes, I know) TransGaming Cedega Version 5.2.3 (GUI) with the Cedega Engine 5.2.4 local update. Any suggestions would be great :) -----------------------
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.18 08:54:00 - [643] Edited by: Sevarus James on 18/08/2006 09:02:30 fairly easy fix. You run EVE fullscreen............IN a cedega window. Use the properties by right clicking the eve icon in cedega. get to the "edit settings" and under general use the "desktop" tab to set the desired desktop rez. It'll take a little tweakin' around to get it just right, but you can run EVE FS (completely) and set the desired desktop rez in EVE.........then MATCH that choice after shutting eve down in the settings from above. Now some distros will have an issue with the mouse being off centered after starting eve in the character manager this way........the fix is to alt/enter to make eve 'windowed' in the cedega window, and then alt/enter again. (this resets the mouse position. You'll tell the difference by seeing the windows bar when eve thinks its 'windowed'. Running EVE FS in a cedega window should produce very good frame rate. Also, make sure that "dxgrab" is unchecked in the general settings so that you're mouse isn't held prisoner in the eve window. (rather annoying that.) Oh, and there is NOTHIN' wrong with running debian "unstable"....hell that's what the ubuntu distro is BASED off of. You're just going for more up to date progs and kernel. ;) ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
bunmastahflex Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.08.18 09:12:00 - [644] Originally by: rig0r I have that when I have EVE set in Desktop mode in a resolution different from what I have selected in EVE. So this only is a problem when I am fiddling around with settings and stuff. Maybe it has something to do with that. Apart from that I have no issues at all running in Gentoo. Well the mousefocus thingy, but that's just a matter of tapping alt-enter twice on the logon screen. And the date/timer bug is still there. Gotten used to it already ... I run eve+cedega5 on gentoo as well. Performance is a little low, but I believe cedega will improve over time (I get about 70fps in station, 20fps in space). Question about the date/timer thing, is that why everything says 408 years, etc?
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.18 09:16:00 - [645] Folks.........GREAT NEWS: This is from up in the sticky in General regarding the dragon code release: Originally by: Sevarus James gonna toss this over to the Transgaming support requests as a new one yet again. Dragon will not work with cedega, and transgaming already admitted that it will break cedega. They did indicate they are investigating, but this doesn't give any time frame for fixes. So the 8/22 date for us who DID upgrade to other solutions..........means a seriously long skill train. Of course Kieron hinted so smugly after E3 that we linux and mac types would have good news coming...........I can't imagine that THIS is what he was referring to? -sigh. Originally by Oveur: That was actually me that hinted at it, not kieron, and it's still true. Transgaming got a code drop of dragon from us recently so work has already started, but we haven't started an official relationship yet. Senior Producer EVE Online ---------------end snippage------------- This means even if we're "down" after the update.....it won't be very long until things get back ta "NIX-normal". Thus endeth the linux news update.....more as we get it. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
rig0r 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.18 11:15:00 - [646] Edited by: rig0r on 18/08/2006 11:16:56 Originally by: Sevarus James Folks.........GREAT NEWS: This is from up in the sticky in General regarding the dragon code release: Originally by: Sevarus James gonna toss this over to the Transgaming support requests as a new one yet again. Dragon will not work with cedega, and transgaming already admitted that it will break cedega. They did indicate they are investigating, but this doesn't give any time frame for fixes. So the 8/22 date for us who DID upgrade to other solutions..........means a seriously long skill train. Of course Kieron hinted so smugly after E3 that we linux and mac types would have good news coming...........I can't imagine that THIS is what he was referring to? -sigh. Originally by Oveur: That was actually me that hinted at it, not kieron, and it's still true. Transgaming got a code drop of dragon from us recently so work has already started, but we haven't started an official relationship yet. Senior Producer EVE Online ---------------end snippage------------- This means even if we're "down" after the update.....it won't be very long until things get back ta "NIX-normal". Thus endeth the linux news update.....more as we get it. Hmm I'm still a bit sceptical tbh. Seeing is believing, as promises have been made before. I still have an XP laptop I can use, but I might as well just take a break from the game until it is fixed. On the other hand, reading the general discussion thread, I was suprised how many already play EVE on linux. This number can only grow and cannot be ignored by CCP. Perhaps we should all file support request at transgaming ? But I am not sure how and where to do that. Eve on Linux
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.18 11:37:00 - [647] Already got that started Rig. (the support request.) As for skeptiscm, I agree to an extent, but having been in the EVE 'verse since june 03', this year has been the FIRST time since late 04 that CCP has not only acknowledged linux, but have indicated some form of support. I've got a corp to run, so I'll be pulling out an XP box that has been gathering dust in the corner until the nix issues are resolved. Here's "where" to file a support request, but you'll see the one I've put up......a reply seconding is probably moren' enough. That CCP has given the code to transgaming is a great sign. Transgaming support thread You'll have to be logged in to add to this, so if you're not a paying subscriber it won't do much good. Just fyi. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
rig0r 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.18 12:13:00 - [648] Edited by: rig0r on 18/08/2006 12:21:22 Reply made, hope it helps a bit. Edit: I see someone started a new poll here. Perhaps voting there might speed things up a bit. Eve on Linux
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.18 13:25:00 - [649] Originally by: bunmastahflex Originally by: rig0r I have that when I have EVE set in Desktop mode in a resolution different from what I have selected in EVE. So this only is a problem when I am fiddling around with settings and stuff. Maybe it has something to do with that. Apart from that I have no issues at all running in Gentoo. Well the mousefocus thingy, but that's just a matter of tapping alt-enter twice on the logon screen. And the date/timer bug is still there. Gotten used to it already ... I run eve+cedega5 on gentoo as well. Performance is a little low, but I believe cedega will improve over time (I get about 70fps in station, 20fps in space). Question about the date/timer thing, is that why everything says 408 years, etc? Known bug Bunmastah. Not sure exactly (I'm not a codemonkey), but....other than the shutdown timer, if you hold the mouse over the 408 years stuff (for agression) you'll see the correct time in a floating dialog. Also the work around for the corp time is to check the employment history. All of that displays correctly. A minor annoyance. With transgaming working on the CIDER project as well as CCP and Transgaming talking and cooperating on the releases, I agree with you things will continue to get better. Also, at the rate that regular wine (non cedega) is progressing we'll have even MORE choice as to how to run EVE under linux. With google ramping up support for linux and wine (see their recent Picassa release for linux as well as the TONS of code moved into the wine fork) as well as Novell and its very slick SLED10 as well as OpenSuse release...and of course Ubuntu and Gentoo, things have NEVER BEEN BRIGHTER for us. I'd better not forget the next release of the Nvidia drivers either. The 1.9x release due out within the next few weeks will have nearly FULL CONTROL via the GUI to update and set the xorg file without having to manually edit it. ---that was from one of the primary nvidia devs via the forums. Intel open sourcing the drivers for their next gen video as well as AMD purchasing ATI also gives hope for the non-nvidia users. A great time to be a 'nix user, IMHO. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
falkners	Posted - 2006.08.18 17:53:00 - [650] I really would apreciate it, if anyone could post a working link to the mousefix. best regards, Daniel
farfrael	Posted - 2006.08.18 17:56:00 - [651] Thank you Sevarus for the semi-good news ... Oveur's comment certainly seemed to be a bad joke in light of the code breakage hopefully they'll formalise a relationsshiop with cedega and get things moving in the right direction Eve working on linux with Cedega = more paying customers for CCP and more people buying Cedega ... everybody wins (except the customer who has to pay twice to play his game but let's not go there for now) Hope CCP realises this
hobieone Caldari Intergalactic Commerce Union	Posted - 2006.08.19 05:00:00 - [652] i hope thery get the game running good under wine or cedega as well. but truely like to see a native linux client made. which you'd think would be down the pipe or ccpp isn't going to get many subscribers from china since last i heard china is a big linux market and they don't care much for microsoft and the fact linux is gainning popularity in europe
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest	Posted - 2006.08.19 05:24:00 - [653] Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 19/08/2006 05:24:03 Originally by: hobieone i hope thery get the game running good under wine or cedega as well. but truely like to see a native linux client made. which you'd think would be down the pipe or ccpp isn't going to get many subscribers from china since last i heard china is a big linux market and they don't care much for microsoft and the fact linux is gainning popularity in europe China maybe able crush the world through its military might but there are two things in this world that China cannot be able to defeat : Wal Mart and Microsoft. Don't expect a linux client at any time. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Yaevep Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.19 11:19:00 - [654] Btw, anyone managed to get Ventrilo working with wine or cedega?
Doublewhopper	Posted - 2006.08.19 11:54:00 - [655] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 19/08/2006 05:24:03 Originally by: hobieone i hope thery get the game running good under wine or cedega as well. but truely like to see a native linux client made. which you'd think would be down the pipe or ccpp isn't going to get many subscribers from china since last i heard china is a big linux market and they don't care much for microsoft and the fact linux is gainning popularity in europe China maybe able crush the world through its military might but there are two things in this world that China cannot be able to defeat : Wal Mart and Microsoft. Don't expect a linux client at any time. Well Germany comes to the rescue...we have successfully defeated Wal Mart and are in the process to switch to Linux in major parts of the country. It's a bit of an irony that CCP kills Linux playability while introducing a german client. I hope they will fix this asap.
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2006.08.19 12:35:00 - [656] Hey folks, lets not derail the thread. The wars over this stuff happen up in 'general'. As for CCP, they ARE helping us by delivering the code base to the very company that is getting win-games to run under linux. As for the ventrillo question, there are some hacks getting that software to run, and yes it "will" run, but has big problems when it loses focus. IIRC there are some 'how-to' stuff at this site: Linux-Gamers They have a good forum section of 'howtos' and I believe if not there, then there will be links. I do remember that the creator of the application at one point indicated he was not going to port to linux as he was afraid to "open-source" the code. Teamspeak does have a native voice client for linux, even though it can be a pain as it is strictly OSS based rather than the newer/ better ALSA which is more current. TS has been working on a newer version, but still no ETA for its release. That all said, I use TS linux client and it works/sounds better than its windows counterpart. ----- ------------ Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
ElfeGER Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.19 14:47:00 - [657] just a short linky but unless wine devs stop using /dev/ignore for bugreports it's useless
rig0r 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:22:00 - [658] Originally by: El*ER just a short linky but unless wine devs stop using /dev/ignore for bugreports it's useless Nifty ! Was it a lot of work to get this going in wine ? Eve on Linux
bunmastahflex Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.08.19 21:23:00 - [659] Originally by: El*ER just a short linky but unless wine devs stop using /dev/ignore for bugreports it's useless is there a performance difference between wine and cedega?
LousyPccGame	Posted - 2006.08.20 10:56:00 - [660] Originally by: bunmastahflex Originally by: El*ER just a short linky but unless wine devs stop using /dev/ignore for bugreports it's useless is there a performance difference between wine and cedega? There's no differnece, wine is still the base, cedega have added some nice GUI and predefined settings for known games to make it work, which YOU would have to find yourself instead. You can check out cedega via cvs if you want to. Originally by: Who CaresÖ FUNÖ...remember that module CCP? - ♥ SoonÖ Or do you still opress with Sinister Bans ?

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