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Mal Foronzonost
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.30 21:53:00 -
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run eve on wine at your own risk.... i gave it a try ... started feeling all cool because it was working and then it froze in the middle of a easy lv4 mission.
needless to say i lost my ship (faction mods etc) and didn't even bother to petition as i figured it would not be supported.
the premium and'normal' game play in wine is good but lockups due to high dps taken is not nice. Und.r C.NsTrkTi.n ..
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Aurix Lexico
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.30 22:06:00 -
[2282]
I've found wine to be alot more stable than the official client. I can't remember the last time eve crashed.
Petition it anyways, GMs like to reimburse NPC losses.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.01 02:37:00 -
[2283]
Originally by: Mal Foronzonost run eve on wine at your own risk.... i gave it a try ... started feeling all cool because it was working and then it froze in the middle of a easy lv4 mission.
needless to say i lost my ship (faction mods etc) and didn't even bother to petition as i figured it would not be supported.
the premium and'normal' game play in wine is good but lockups due to high dps taken is not nice.
I too was having lockups (since 1.1.6) with premium gfx. About once an hour of continuous play and things would get wierd and or just ctd.
I shut off compiz and all and I mean ALL of the wierdness quit happening. Last night for example, online for 6+ hours with 80% of gate travel through multiple regions and a few other bits n' bobs, and NO issues at all. (Plus my fps was about 15% higher.)
Personally I believe that a lot of the crashes/ctd's and lockups have more to do with WHAT is being actively run 'beside' wine, rather than EVE being the singular culprit.
In a perfect world everything would place nice with each other and there wouldn't be any crashing or oddness, but we ARE talking about software here. 
At least with linux, when one app goes south o' the border, its easily recoverable without finger wandering to power/reset buttons, eh? 
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |

Zeminy
Minmatar The Knights Templar Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.12.01 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Zeminy on 01/12/2008 05:03:28 Ever since Quantum Rise I have been having trouble with my wine run EVE. I keep getting unhandle page errors with the client locking up. With the latest patch I don't even get into the game, splash screen and then crash.
Quote:
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} could be created for context 0x1 fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33af94,0x00000000), stub! fixme:d3d:test_pbo_functionality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GL_INVALID_OPERATION (0x502) from Loading the PBO test texture @ directx.c / 3554 fixme:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Add OpenGL context recreation support to SetDepthStencilSurface err:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Can't find a suitable iPixelFormat fixme:d3d:WineD3D_ChoosePixelFormat Add OpenGL context recreation support to SetDepthStencilSurface fixme:wtsapi:WTSRegisterSessionNotification Stub 0x50026 0x00000000 fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0x50026, 0x13b580): stub wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x00000008 at address 0x7d3b9d13 (thread 001d), starting debugger...
I am running Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 3.5) Linux 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP x86_64 GNU/Linu It is an AMD machine with ATI RADEON X600 Series graphics processor. ATI Driver: 8.54.2 OpenGl: 2.1.8087 wine version 1.0
Any ideas here?
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Glengrant
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.02 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Glengrant on 02/12/2008 12:03:14 EVE on Wine is usually rock stable.
But I had a number of lockups (client is still there but doesn't react anymore and I have to kill it) since QR. So either it's a QR thing - or a QR+Wine combo. In the latter case the official client might or might not be affected too.
What is a bit weird is that I either have a day with no problems (like yesterday) - or a run of lockups like one day last week when it locked up every 30 minutes or so. I had a run of 3 lockups in a row within minutes once - but that is an exception.
I didn't see any connection to high DPS or anything else that was obvious to me. On the days when I had plenty lockups I did roughly the same things (Missions, chat, corp stuff, market) as on the days when all was cool. Hm. Now that I think about it I flew an Eagle when I had at least most of the lockups and am currently using a Caracal (few or none since then). That's about the only change I can remember.
I'm running EVE classic via wine (wine-1.1.5) on Ubuntu 8.04 (with Compiz enabled - never had any negative effects due to Compiz). NVidia 7900 GS on Inspiron 9400 Laptop (DC2, 2 GHz, 2 GB).
p.s. I had 0 crashes at startup. --- Save the forum: Think before you post. ISK BUYER = LOOSER EVE TV- Bring it back!
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Debeus
Amarr Princeps Corp T e r c i o s
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Posted - 2008.12.04 04:54:00 -
[2286]
Make sure you are using nvidia 177 (See: System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers) Try premium content, without shadows and hdr.
Please disable Compiz (System -> Appearance -> Visual Effects: None).
And check your gpu temp, using nvclock -i, just in case. -- Wine + fix |

Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.04 21:24:00 -
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Good news - with incoming of todays nice bunch of commits following issue was fixed: EVE Online: real selection size of objects is much bigger than it should be and than visual size
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.05 00:48:00 -
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Speaking of "fixed". The new UI fixes on SISI have DRASTICALLY improved framerate with premium+wine. I'm seeing 20-30% better FPS with the new sisi client, and that is BEFORE turning any of the new effects choices off. See this thread for more info: New UI testing on SISI
Also, with the testing client, the f11 mini-maps are working.
10-35 fps better than tranquility under normal conditions is a BIG improvement.
Plus the UI toggles for effects is going to REALLY help for fleet and larger NPC mission stuff.
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |

Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.05 21:38:00 -
[2289]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 05/12/2008 21:38:53 Great. Thus, the only issue that affects my installation (i don't use shadows) is crash on focus restore :P
Anybody with debugging experience?
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Katrina Bekers
Gallente Hikage Corporation G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.05 22:28:00 -
[2290]
Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Great. Thus, the only issue that affects my installation (i don't use shadows) is crash on focus restore :P
Anybody with debugging experience?
Already checked http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15485 and the suggested workarounds? --- Kate [ Recruitment | HKG | G0DS ] |

Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.06 08:17:00 -
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Some new info. I grabbed the latest EVE SISI patch this evening, installed it and logged into.........Tranquility.   
This apparently is NOT a bug per the devs in the development forum, rather a "release candidate".
Anyway this was with 1.1.9.
I upgraded to 1.1.10 which is now out, (and DOES fix the bounding box issues with clicking around the ship and such, btw).....and started the test client, and it blew chunks. It blows up with a "memory destroyed, but 23 pieces left" error. It DOES work with tranquility client, but heads up regarding Eve not working next update with the newest wine beta unless something is fixed with wine. (the test client works fine with 1.1.9).
Downgraded to 1.1.9, and all works. I didn't get a chance to test the freeze/focus issue as I was more concerned with getting the test client back and running. (The test client by the way has the UI improvements which GREATLY improve overall fps with the client.)
Also there are "fixes" in 1.1.10 which supposedly fix pulseaudio >alsa issues. On the tranquility client, the "fixes" made things worse. See: Alsa wine bug issue
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |

Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.06 08:22:00 -
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Sure i checked (i'm original bug reporter, it would be stange if i didn't do that), ut workaround is workaround... not proper fix.
That's why i'm trying to get into wine debugging myself or find someone with good debug knowledge.
As for SiSi client - it seems that CCP abandoned bitmap interlacing which fixed minimap issue (1st frame of interlacing image is shown correctly on TQ).
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.06 09:15:00 -
[2293]
and disregard the last post of mine.........apparently my 1.1.10 install was corrupted.
reinstall of 1.1.9, and then update to 1.1.10 and the test client is now working.  Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |

Debeus
Amarr Princeps Corp T e r c i o s
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Posted - 2008.12.06 16:36:00 -
[2294]
Edited by: Debeus on 06/12/2008 16:44:28
Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Great. Thus, the only issue that affects my installation (i don't use shadows) is crash on focus restore :P
This is solved using the virtual desktop feature:
padsp wine explorer /desktop=EVE,1600x1200 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"
Pick the resolution you like, using the same as the desktop results in full screen.
The real solution for Pulseaudio is letting the pulseaudio driver in, which the developers don't want... -- Wine + fix |

Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.06 20:49:00 -
[2295]
SiSi client and/or wine .10 really rock. Performance is awesome when compared to what i previously had on my rig.
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Romulus Silvia
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.07 04:49:00 -
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i upgraded wine to .10 and eve wouldn't launch. i went back to .9 and it worked, so i tried to reupgrade to .10 and it wouldn't launch again. i used the lenny repos off winehq. so im using .9 unless anyone knows whats up.
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Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.07 09:48:00 -
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On eve-ru forums we also got few complaints that eve doesn't launch under .10. Do you use classic graphics? I'm using premium and everything's okay.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.07 14:46:00 -
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I had the same issues (see a few posts ago)......but a wipe of wine (completely) and a reinstall of it and EVE and it seems to be working fine.
Also, it might be me, but with the test (sisi) client, I can get to tranquility, but when I put the sisi extension on, it crashes with memory issues.
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |

Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.07 17:00:00 -
[2299]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 07/12/2008 17:00:18 I'm using SiSi client on TQ almost whole day too.
Some users from windows report inconsistencies though - e.g empty tabs in pos management window.
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Hendrik Tiberius
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Posted - 2008.12.07 19:26:00 -
[2300]
Hello,
I'm using gentoo and wine 1.1.10, I installed the premium client with wine set to Windows 98 without problems (XP gives an error about needing admin rights). When the installation was done i changed wine to run Windows XP again and tried to run eve. Now I get the following error:
wine eve.exe fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fe3c) stub! err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} not registered err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object {9a5ea990-3034-4d6f-9128-01f3c61022bc} could be created for context 0x1 err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\python25.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\python25.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library python25.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\blue.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\blue.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\blue.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library blue.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\python25.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\python25.dll") not found err:module:import_dll Library python25.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe") not found err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe" failed, status c0000135
those .dll files are there though. Can someone help me with this, what can I do to fix it?
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Romulus Silvia
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kadesh Priestess On eve-ru forums we also got few complaints that eve doesn't launch under .10. Do you use classic graphics? I'm using premium and everything's okay.
Im using the classic graphics client. my entire .wine/ is from a few months ago when i ran ubuntu.
I would reinstall wine/eve but i hate to lose all my configs and overviews.
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Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2008.12.08 12:36:00 -
[2302]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 08/12/2008 12:37:50
Originally by: Romulus Silvia I would reinstall wine/eve but i hate to lose all my configs and overviews.
They may be easily transferred from any installation to another.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.09 02:52:00 -
[2303]
See this post of mine. We're getting an x-mas present big time with this new client. (check the screenshot link for fps counter.....its 50% faster than my fps on tranquility in same spot with same settings.)
Game Dev forum post/link
Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE |

Romulus Silvia
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.15 07:38:00 -
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so i reinstalled wine and eve and now everything runs great for about 15 minutes and then my client crashes... or rather, it becomes a "zombie" process. if anyone knows how to fix this, it would be great.
running on debian sid with wine 1.1.10 and the classic eve client.
i never had this problem running it under ubuntu and wine.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.15 08:47:00 -
[2305]
Edited by: Sevarus James on 15/12/2008 08:49:37 I had too many issues with 1.1.10 and SISI. As a matter of fact after the last SISI update (5.20.72112) wine 1.1.10 crashes with a memory exception everytime before login screen no matter what.
Backing off to wine 1.1.9 resolved the issues on SISI, and it appears intermittent zombie issues with tranquility. I'm willing to bet that the memory issues that CCP has acknowledged may have something to do with the problems. Wine 1.1.9 does crash occasionally, but watching sysmon it appears that EVE's memory usage after a point starts to increase and at a certain point it crashes. This may have something to do with its caching, but I'm not mr. debugger guy to say this with any certainty.
Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium |

Onyx47
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Posted - 2008.12.16 12:41:00 -
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Well, QR 1.0.4 patch is out, has anyone done any testing in how it works with wine 1.1.10? I have upgraded my wine to 1.1.10 again and so far no crashes but I didn't try it in battle situations yet where most of the crashes I had with QR 1.0.3 and wine 1.1.10 occured.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.12.16 17:49:00 -
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So far testing the new patch with wine 1.1.9 I'm seeing that EVE is very VERY unstable under compiz. (ubuntu 8.10). Under compiz EVE loads, works and then crashes with no apparent errors or heavy increase in memory usage.
Switching the window manager to metacity (command: metacity --replace &) shows EVE to be VERY stable and memory usage staying consistent.
Using the ctrl+alt+shift+m and watching memory graph usage, I'm seeing a very stable usage pattern with only small spikes in "blue memory".
system monitor seems to be holding at between 635meg > 705 meg depending on actions and location. These results are approximately 45 minutes of constant usage, autopiloting 5 jumps back and forth, docking/undocking, and checking markets. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium |

Onyx47
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Posted - 2008.12.17 01:17:00 -
[2308]
Well, with wine 1.1.9 I had no problems with 1.0.3 or 1.0.4 patch, not even with compiz running. But I want to switch to 1.1.10 ASAP because it finaly fixed the sound problems I had with Ventrilo. I have tried using wine 1.1.10 with compiz off, it still crashed. I will try to switch wine to OSS and see if that helps.
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Sevarus James
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.12.19 23:43:00 -
[2309]
Posted a request for info regarding linux/mac clients in the game dev section. If they won't come down here, I'm interested to see if there is any response there.... just fyi. Updated Ubuntu Compiz-Linux Desktop+EVE Premium |

armas
Gallente Minbari Research Institute
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Posted - 2008.12.20 00:30:00 -
[2310]
Originally by: Sevarus James Posted a request for info regarding linux/mac clients in the game dev section. If they won't come down here, I'm interested to see if there is any response there.... just fyi.
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