Somebody, somewhere is paying for that Sov (and it costs quite a bit more than the paltry costs of a few lp store items);

Then the fix is replace some of the bounties with CONCORD LP like incursions. In-game CONCORD is the source of the bounties anyways. A null pve player would need to physically move the pve toon to the nearest empire CONCORD station to cash in, with would be a further isk sink because the pve toon isn't ratting right then (though the time can be minmized by jump cloning and death cloning).

If there is an inflation issue speak openly about it with the community and tell us you need to take steps to fix it which will actually fix it. We don't want to see the economy go to hell any more than you.

Sov should be the most valuable ground in the game bar none.

I hope people's primary concern is based on those two things, and condensed into the simple fact that Sov is increasingly becoming worth less and less, and heading to the brink of becoming a pointless endeavour.

Because the ISK coming into the game from Null Sec bounties every day is insane and we want to minimize inflation.

Because the ISK coming into the game from Null Sec bounties every day is insane and we want to minimize inflation.

Because the ISK coming into the game from Null Sec bounties every day is insane and we want to minimize inflation.



This is subjective. Some will feel the risk is not worth the gain, some will feel the gain is worth the risk.

lmfao you actually have no idea do you

if you are concerned about isk inflation then just cut npc isk by half and replace the other half with tags that can be traded for LP.

much much better idea.

that way the amount of isk comming into the game is greatly reduced but the drops can then be traded for isk already in game.

heck i would just blanket this idea and put it all across eve.

I thought that was evident from the beginning.

And this ladies and gentlemen, is how you get the devs to ignore every single thing you say. Well done. *golfclap*

It is entirely possible for too much isk to be coming out of nullsec without income in nullsec being too high. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Am I wrong, or is the ESS essentially a siphon on null-sec ratting bounties?

stop posting when you don't know what you're talking about

Isn't there any legacy code that could stop you from introducing pointless stuff like ESS and/or MMJD?

Am I wrong, or is the ESS essentially a siphon on null-sec ratting bounties?

Constructive posting at it's finest. Would it strain you overmuch to elaborate on what I said in the last two pages or so that is incorrect? Or would that be too hard?

Am I wrong, or is the ESS essentially a siphon on null-sec ratting bounties?

So a squad of pilots doing ratting might deploy an ESS

but they'll want some of their number to hang around and protect it from other squads (or solo pirates).

nothing you said had any merit to elaborate on it was just wild conjecture, all of which was wrong, which i did point out and you just bounced to new wrong wild conjecture

stop posting when you don't know what you're talking about

Dear players,

We love the massive battles you wage that we use for publicity, to make these amazing 4000 man brawls even more rare we are making it (yet again) even harder for the basic alliance line member to make the isk to pay for it all.

GG :CCP:

Take your own advice -- this guy is one of the few posters in this thread who actually understands the difference between income and isk generation.

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So, in light of "reduce nullsec inflation" being a design goal, I submit a humble proposal. Really, I echo the proposal several people have already made, but in a much more thorough manner.

• Eliminate the 5% penalty. If we're able to make it attractive enough, you won't need this stick to beat players into eating their carrots, so to speak.
• Rework the payout of this unit such that it reduces bounties to 80% of their value, but replaces them with LP at a reasonable exchange rate. This exchange rate would ideally be calibrated to the value of easy to buy and move items in the LP store, such as +3 or +4 implants. Given the extra supply we'd see here, something like 800 isk per LP would seem sensible. Thus, killing a million isk bounty rat would now reward 800,000 isk as well as 250 LP.
• As inflation is no longer a concern, the bonus payout can now increase to an acceptable level as to balance the risk inherent to putting 20% of your income on the line, potentially putting your ratting ship on the line (if reshipping to defend the ESS isn't an option, as it will so often be), etc.
• As is the case now, a thief can come along and access the ESS after some appropriate length of time. Should they do so, they receive LP tokens.

By using LP and calibrating to something like 800 isk per LP, you maintain the income level for players who just want a fast cashout. However, the unit becomes more attractive to people who are willing to put in the extra bit of effort to find higher yield cashouts, which is generally a plus. This also has the added perk of making the factional choice for ones ESS more meaningful, and opens up the future possibility of ESS modules from other factions as well - naturally, the Sisters of Eve might want to get in on the action, or perhaps a special version of the ESS issued by one pirate faction rewards even more handsomely than the Empire versions, but only for kills against their rivals.

In the worst case, no one uses this - as many individuals and even alliances have already sworn to do with the current version - and nothing changes inflation-wise. However, in the best case, they see widespread adoption, dramatically cutting into the faucet that bounties represent. A followup bonus here is that LP often as not is redeemed with an additional isk payment, so we get the added bonus of an additional sink as well.

Now the largest obstacle here would seem to be that LP is corp based rather than faction based - it's not "Caldari State" LP, it's "State Protectorate" or "Caldari Navy" or what have you. Technically speaking that should not be difficult to overcome, as mechanics to convert one form of LP (CONCORD) into another (almost anything else) already exist, though of course I know nothing about EVE's code. Conceptually speaking though, there are many solutions, perhaps the simplest of which is simply speaking to an agent of the appropriate faction, and trading either your faction LP or your tokens for an equal amount of that corp's LP. That also offers yet another chance for savvy players to increase their income further still, as even within a faction, not all corps are created equal. If access to certain LP stores in this manner is undesirable (FW stores and their special ship offers come to mind) they can simply be added to a restricted list.