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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1433
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:41:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:~angry words~ That's one way to gather statistical data you'd need to prove your point. I literally told you how to get data so you can argue your point. Instead of spewing garbage like you always do, you could do some actual science here and you know have data to show to those of us who form our opinions based on fact and data. Your one attempt is an anecdote, a one time story telling of what happened. Anecdotes aren't evidence and don't hold up in arguments, data however does. Except its not one time, I have shown evidence that is indeed repeatable to the degree I can keep 10 accounts subscribed with just this one character running sites. As I stated I have posted multiple shots of different trips to null and they all show they ended with billions in loot. Lets see your evidence of how terrible and poor you are, show us your screenies, spreadsheets and so on which you demand from me? No? Don't have any ? I thought so.
It is Anecdotal evidence which means its entirely worthless in all but very specific circumstances hence, all of those things you like to trot out are worthless. The data is pretty clearly cherry picked and we call your type of idiocy an informal fallacy. Once you provide statistical data if it shows your right, guess what those of us who are not highsec people that refuse to accept facts will change our minds based on the data.
As it is now you only have a fairy tale, you have no data. So go read my post and get data if you want to do more than flail about insignificantly.
I suspect the public education system has failed you so here's some more reasons why your one time event isn't data:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
Before you start with the pedantry, you are not a trained observer. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
67
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:48:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:I was referring to the reason Arkady edited his post. Playing a virtual scumbag in a virtual world is one thing, but that's a little different, don't ya think? Margaret Thatcher was a real life scumbag.
Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know and don't give a ****. But I'll spell it out since you goons are a bit dense. I was referring to the implication that Infinity Z would be better off dead, Thatcher was a rl person not a fictional character so I took it to mean that Arkady was implying the person behind the Infinity character would be better dead. But I suppose that sort of thing should be expected from you goons, what with the example your leader sets. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1433
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:54:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:I was referring to the reason Arkady edited his post. Playing a virtual scumbag in a virtual world is one thing, but that's a little different, don't ya think? Margaret Thatcher was a real life scumbag. Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know and don't give a ****. But I'll spell it out since you goons are a bit dense. I was referring to the implication that Infinity Z would be better off dead, Thatcher was a rl person not a fictional character so I took it to mean that Arkady was implying the person behind the Infinity character would be better dead. But I suppose that sort of thing should be expected from you goons, what with the example your leader sets.
Its pretty close to fact, sociopathic people that harm the poor to benefit the already well off while trying to pass it off as something to benefit the poor fit the bill.
Whats wrong with dead space(wo)men? They just respawn in their stations and some people like to collect corpses. You're trying to drag this into RL where it does not belong.
I still would like to see a CCP breakdown of the incoming bounties versus total income by sec area, so we can see if the ESS really does belong in nullsec. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16537
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:55:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:I was referring to the reason Arkady edited his post. Playing a virtual scumbag in a virtual world is one thing, but that's a little different, don't ya think? Margaret Thatcher was a real life scumbag. That may be some people's view, often based on bias information, but I really don't see the point of mentioning it here.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
4671
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:57:00 -
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Null tears...best tears.
+1 ESS |
Yonis Zanjoahir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:E6o5 wrote:La Nariz wrote:Yonis Zanjoahir wrote:A bunch of angry botters itt lmao.
+1 for ESS.
Security presentation showed that most of the botting occurs in highsec and over half of all botting occurs in caldari highsec. So you know where to go with your bots He's right, though. Hiseccers are the biggest culprits when it comes to botting.
And by that you mean there's more bots per capita in nullsec, right ? And the income of a ratting bot is a lot higher than that of a mining bot ? And there's a lot more bots per populated system in nullsec ? And virtually all frequent belt ratters are botters ? And since nullseccers don't report their own bots a big source of highsec detection (reports) is almost absent in nullsec ?
Yeah, i know.
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E6o5
Tyler Durden Demolitions
258
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:06:00 -
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Andski wrote:E6o5 wrote:La Nariz wrote:Yonis Zanjoahir wrote:A bunch of angry botters itt lmao.
+1 for ESS.
Security presentation showed that most of the botting occurs in highsec and over half of all botting occurs in caldari highsec. So you know where to go with your bots He's right, though. Hiseccers are the biggest culprits when it comes to botting.
Your proof is very convincing. This thread however proofs that nullbears are the biggest crybabies at the moment.
But view it from a different angle, the less money your enemy makes botting erm i mean ratting, the less money they can spent on drone carriers - you got the nerf you were crying for |
Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
67
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:07:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:I was referring to the reason Arkady edited his post. Playing a virtual scumbag in a virtual world is one thing, but that's a little different, don't ya think? Margaret Thatcher was a real life scumbag. Well that's a matter of opinion. I'm not from the UK so I wouldn't know and don't give a ****. But I'll spell it out since you goons are a bit dense. I was referring to the implication that Infinity Z would be better off dead, Thatcher was a rl person not a fictional character so I took it to mean that Arkady was implying the person behind the Infinity character would be better dead. But I suppose that sort of thing should be expected from you goons, what with the example your leader sets. Its pretty close to fact, sociopathic people that harm the poor to benefit the already well off while trying to pass it off as something to benefit the poor fit the bill. Whats wrong with dead space(wo)men? They just respawn in their stations and some people like to collect corpses. You're trying to drag this into RL where it does not belong. I still would like to see a CCP breakdown of the incoming bounties versus total income by sec area, so we can see if the ESS really does belong in nullsec.
Real life was dragged in with a comparison to Marge, it was you that dropped her in and your mate ran with it, now you're carrying it on. I took umbrage, Arkady removed it, and I got my gratuitous reference to mittens at fanfest. I'm happy to leave it at that. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:07:00 -
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E6o5 wrote:Andski wrote:E6o5 wrote:La Nariz wrote:Yonis Zanjoahir wrote:A bunch of angry botters itt lmao.
+1 for ESS.
Security presentation showed that most of the botting occurs in highsec and over half of all botting occurs in caldari highsec. So you know where to go with your bots He's right, though. Hiseccers are the biggest culprits when it comes to botting. Your proof is very convincing. This thread however proofs that nullbears are the biggest crybabies at the moment. But view it from a different angle, the less money your enemy makes botting erm i mean ratting, the less money they can spent on drone carriers - you got the nerf you were crying for
I don't have the link Tippia had before to show it but yeah its there. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:09:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:~Really angry words~
So you agree then this ESS is garbage in its current form and that if it remains as is it should be a highsec only thing? This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
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Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
67
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:15:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:~Really angry words~ So you agree then this ESS is garbage in its current form and that if it remains as is it should be a highsec only thing?
Wow you are dense. I've stated my position numerous times through the thread, if you haven't even bothered to read this thread, then why should your opinion be considered at all? |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:20:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:~Really angry words~ So you agree then this ESS is garbage in its current form and that if it remains as is it should be a highsec only thing? Wow you are dense. I've stated my position numerous times through the thread, if you haven't even bothered to read this thread, then why should your opinion be considered at all?
I've read the thread unlike some people that have spewed curse words and become incredibly upset at the thought of space(wo)men dieing. I have to post so the highsec people can understand its all about the target audience. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10023
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:22:00 -
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Yonis Zanjoahir wrote:And by that you mean there's more bots per capita in nullsec, right ? And the income of a ratting bot is a lot higher than that of a mining bot ? And there's a lot more bots per populated system in nullsec ? And virtually all frequent belt ratters are botters ? And since nullseccers don't report their own bots a big source of highsec detection (reports) is almost absent in nullsec ?
Yeah, i know.
Wrong, wrong and wrong. For one, bot reports aren't decisive in bots being banned - market bots are virtually indistinguishable from a human manually updating orders, making reporting them difficult. But market bots still get banned. Bots don't operate in populated systems because it attracts attention, you have no evidence to claim that frequent belt ratters are botters and you know it, and mining isn't the only bot-friendly income source in hisec, unless you've never heard of missions. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10026
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:26:00 -
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Also you don't change game mechanics to combat botting, you ban bots to combat botting, making this botting tangent a waste of time. Unless you also want L4 missions to require lowsec travel as a "solution" to the fact that they are heavily botted! Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
TharOkha
0asis Group
771
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:27:00 -
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Yonis Zanjoahir wrote:A bunch of angry botters itt lmao.
+1 for ESS.
cmon dude, im hisec dweller too and sometimes i LOL on null tears (like endless AFK cloaks threads or how nullsec industry suck while they clearly overlook main problem.. no superior trade hubs in null...... and they blame hisec for itl)
But this one is really stupid. Its obvious nullsec rats nerf. Advantages of ESS are LOL. Its easily destroyable, its potential bonus (105%) is LOL....
Nope..... as i i see it.. Its stealth PVE nerf ... nullsec exclusive.
There would less rage if this ESS would be deployable in hisec and lowsec too.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10026
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:28:00 -
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No **** the hiseccers in this thread would be crying murder if this affected their precious L4/incursion rewards Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
68
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:29:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:~Really angry words~ So you agree then this ESS is garbage in its current form and that if it remains as is it should be a highsec only thing? Wow you are dense. I've stated my position numerous times through the thread, if you haven't even bothered to read this thread, then why should your opinion be considered at all? I've read the thread unlike some people that have spewed curse words and become incredibly upset at the thought of space(wo)men dieing. I have to post so the highsec people can understand its all about the target audience.
Yes I've read the thread as well, missed the bit were peeps were getting upset about the space(wo)men dying though. Did see a fair few curse words from people getting incredibly upset at the thought of their virtual monies being taken off them. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:34:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:~Really angry words~ So you agree then this ESS is garbage in its current form and that if it remains as is it should be a highsec only thing? Wow you are dense. I've stated my position numerous times through the thread, if you haven't even bothered to read this thread, then why should your opinion be considered at all? I've read the thread unlike some people that have spewed curse words and become incredibly upset at the thought of space(wo)men dieing. I have to post so the highsec people can understand its all about the target audience. Yes I've read the thread as well, missed the bit were peeps were getting upset about the space(wo)men dying though. Did see a fair few curse words from people getting incredibly upset at the thought of their virtual monies being taken off them.
Its right here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4120096#post4120096
It is very shameful to edit away your badposting.
The ESS was supposed to promote conflict too but its not going to because its not worth deploying. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10026
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:34:00 -
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Also what kind of mouthbreathing moron would remotely believe that botters would care about a slight income nerf? Botters don't care if they're pulling 1.5 billion a day or 1.4 billion a day because it's effort-free ISK.
The people who are unhappy about this change are those that actually sit at their keyboards to eke a living out of their space, not botters. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4746
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:38:00 -
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It is very important that if the ESS is to be released, it can be used in all space and affect all PvE, sans mining I guess.
If that is not possible, then it needs to be put on hold until it can be properly implemented. . |
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
455
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:38:00 -
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The only thing better in this thread than the supposed ~tears~ is the level of sheer grr goon.
Grr goon where will you rat now grr goon go back to hisec where you belong! Bonus points for Infinity Z bragging about running DED Plexes in hostile space in a cloaky/nullified ship. Clearly, a one-man example of how null income works in the entirety of space.
That said, IZ does touch on a certain thing here, demonstrating in part why exactly ESS is a bad idea. DEDs wouldn't be affected, and they are - barring high-level moon income - likely the highest-reward activity. That's if you're lucky with the drops of course, because a lot of the time you find just Overseer Effects, so plexing isn't exactly the "Guaranteed pirate BS BPC/X-Type mods" thing.
Those are commodities however, their price remains unaffected by the ESS, high-value and dependent on the market. Bounty income matters with anomaly blitzing. Individual bounty of one high-value BS rat is very low - you need to kill hundreds of them to make a semi-decent amount of cash.
The average payout of a Haven is around 40 million in bounties, the payout of a Forsaken Hub is 25. Now, if we assume they all are composed out of the same type of rat (they aren't, no) we're lowering the payout of a Haven to 38m base. Then, we can risk the anomaly being worth 30m to make it worth, in total, 40 million ISK (regain the old 38 + 5%, ~40). You're risking 8m per anomaly to gain the old income back.
Thing with ratting income is that it's the lowest, baseline way of making money in null. It has to be very optimized to make it cost-effective, because if you're not making it cost effective enough - you're actually better off running incursions or Level 4 missions in hisec space. Ratting income doesn't come in bursts of selling super-expensive loot, but from slowly trickling rewards - so it's literally hours of farming anomalies to get good cash. Furthermore, with rats always spawning anyway there's no incentive in staying on the field if a gang comes in - they can't steal your loot, and if they go away in 20 minutes you lost maybe 15-25 million in rewards.
The only viable reason I could see to anchor an ESS is to leech bounties and disrupt large ratting operations, due to it cutting the anom income by 20% regardless of who cashes out. Sadly, in this role it's impaired as well - you can put dscan disruptors on it and make a nice trap but... you're still in local, and everyone sees this thing anchored. They'll dock up, wait for you to leave and blap the ESS. Done.
The concept of having a structure that could increase your paycheck while at risk of being raided is great. However in its current iteration it's just useless and I can't really see why anyone would think it's a good idea. Though, I guess, people would kill for a klondike bar or a chicken sandwich - so maybe for increasing the cost of an anomaly by that of a single battleship rat too. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1428
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:39:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:~angry words~ That's one way to gather statistical data you'd need to prove your point. I literally told you how to get data so you can argue your point. Instead of spewing garbage like you always do, you could do some actual science here and you know have data to show to those of us who form our opinions based on fact and data. Your one attempt is an anecdote, a one time story telling of what happened. Anecdotes aren't evidence and don't hold up in arguments, data however does. Except its not one time, I have shown evidence that is indeed repeatable to the degree I can keep 10 accounts subscribed with just this one character running sites. As I stated I have posted multiple shots of different trips to null and they all show they ended with billions in loot. Lets see your evidence of how terrible and poor you are, show us your screenies, spreadsheets and so on which you demand from me? No? Don't have any ? I thought so. It is Anecdotal evidence which means its entirely worthless in all but very specific circumstances hence, all of those things you like to trot out are worthless. The data is pretty clearly cherry picked and we call your type of idiocy an informal fallacy. Once you provide statistical data if it shows your right, guess what those of us who are not highsec people that refuse to accept facts will change our minds based on the data. As it is now you only have a fairy tale, you have no data. So go read my post and get data if you want to do more than flail about insignificantly. I suspect the public education system has failed you so here's some more reasons why your one time event isn't data: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidenceBefore you start with the pedantry, you are not a trained observer. No its not anecdotal evidence. The screenshot I posted clearly showed (given the number of overseer effects I had) that I had run 6 sites, the loot in my hold clearly showed what I had looted from those 6 sites. The OE in my hold show which level sites I ran to acquire those goods.
The second screenshot I posted shows the same thing, OE, loot. Its not anecdotal since its discrete evidence that can be quantified rather than vague word of mouth.
Anecdotal evidence would be me saying "I went to null sec and run 6 sites and I got heaps of high end gear" without evidence or specific details.
I would also point out that my 10 or so screenshots that I have linked, which all show similiar amounts of OE and loot show a continuity that supports my claims.
You on the other hand provide no data, you refute all of my data even though its substantial and real and resort to personal attacks and mediocre insults as your 'evidence'.
In short, you're embarassing yourself. |
Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
68
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:43:00 -
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Its shameful to wish or imply real life people dead in video game, your mate Arkady was decent enough to edit his post so I did as well, and I tried to bow out of that topic. Why do you keep dragging this up? Is trying to drive people to suicide online really how you people get your kicks? Was Mittani drunk at fanfest calling on some vulnerable guy to kill himself actually how you lot are irl? Seriously, I want to know. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1428
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:51:00 -
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Genseric Tollaris wrote:Its shameful to wish or imply real life people dead in video game, your mate Arkady was decent enough to edit his post so I did as well, and I tried to bow out of that topic. Why do you keep dragging this up? Is trying to drive people to suicide online really how you people get your kicks? Was Mittani drunk at fanfest calling on some vulnerable guy to kill himself actually how you lot are irl? Seriously, I want to know. Oh I don't care about them wishing me dead. They don't like me simply because I'm not afraid to expose the truth to everyone whereas they'd like the myth that null is dead and suffering in comparisons to high sec alive and well.
It benefits them when it comes to their carefully selected CSM stooges providing guidance to CCP on the next buff of null and the latest nerf of high.
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Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
69
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Posted - 2014.01.17 07:55:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:Its shameful to wish or imply real life people dead in video game, your mate Arkady was decent enough to edit his post so I did as well, and I tried to bow out of that topic. Why do you keep dragging this up? Is trying to drive people to suicide online really how you people get your kicks? Was Mittani drunk at fanfest calling on some vulnerable guy to kill himself actually how you lot are irl? Seriously, I want to know. Oh I don't care about them wishing me dead. They don't like me simply because I'm not afraid to expose the truth to everyone whereas they'd like the myth that null is dead and suffering in comparisons to high sec alive and well. It benefits them when it comes to their carefully selected CSM stooges providing guidance to CCP on the next buff of null and the latest nerf of high.
Yeah I know. I took it as an opportunity to get one on em in forum pvp, Arkady took the hit and bowed out. But several opportunities to let what is a pretty bad thread in this thread have been passed up by La Sicko. So I'm content to keep going. |
Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
455
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:03:00 -
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Ruh-roh, watch out dear allied poasting division we've got some serious badasses around that mean business and aren't afraid to go one-on-one with you!
Can we blob on the forums? I assume it can be done. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet?
Covert pilots unite! Safer working conditions, less accidental limb loss due to unfortunate Cyno accidents! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258986 |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:05:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:Its shameful to wish or imply real life people dead in video game, your mate Arkady was decent enough to edit his post so I did as well, and I tried to bow out of that topic. Why do you keep dragging this up? Is trying to drive people to suicide online really how you people get your kicks? Was Mittani drunk at fanfest calling on some vulnerable guy to kill himself actually how you lot are irl? Seriously, I want to know. Oh I don't care about them wishing me dead. They don't like me simply because I'm not afraid to expose the truth to everyone whereas they'd like the myth that null is dead and suffering in comparisons to high sec alive and well. It benefits them when it comes to their carefully selected CSM stooges providing guidance to CCP on the next buff of null and the latest nerf of high.
You go you oppressed voice of the people you. You persistently insist that your edge case personal anecdote is representative of the whole of nullsec ratting income (which it isn't), and that you also ignore the fact that even the best ratting systems can only hold a handful of people, where the best L4 areas can be occupied by hundreds more, which means that more people can make more income in hisec overall.
But don't let that get you down.
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Dave Stark
4209
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:No **** the hiseccers in this thread would be crying murder if this affected their precious L4/incursion rewards
it would be even worse in high sec, you can't even stop some one stealing your payouts. :concord: a flat nerf to income would be better for everyone than the ESS. |
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard Tactical Narcotics Team
102
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:08:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: No its not anecdotal evidence.
Yes, it is.
Quote:The expression anecdotal evidence refers to evidence from anecdotes. Because of the small sample, there is a larger chance that it may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases
By definition your personal findings will always be just that - anecdotal evidence. A) Your sample size is no where near representative to determine an average income B) Your sample is not representative of a typical case of a null sec resident
You personally camp an entire constellation of hostile space 23/7 with 10 accounts. Your findings are completely irrelevant to the topic. Take a constellation, move in to it with a few hundred guys, then after a few months we can start calculating average income per member per unit of time spent securing that income. |
Suicidal Blonde
Alchemical Aquisitions
70
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:09:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Pretty sure the ESS adds an extra 5% to total income and afaik there is no requirement to fill out TPS reports and no one at CCP named Bob was recently fired. Unless you mean BoB but I think Goons, not CCP was responsible for their demise.
'My rented thistem wath thuppothed to come with no fail, but there are thick grains of fail all over the glath. I can make a call to my friends and have thth plathe clothed down.' |
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