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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2118
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:02:00 -
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Quote:Even though you guys hate Infinity Ziona suggestion about removing timers, I think you should go play planetside 2 and see for yourself, at night when limited people are online (nice small fights, 1vs1, and some small gangs), and in the evening you get massive fights for HOURS flipping systems, AND in several systems instead of the crammed up 4k in one system.
Even though I disagree that the two make an appropriate comparison (which makes sense only because IZ is an idiot), I will go ahead and take this apart.
Have you ever played Planetside 2? I have. I played back before it was Vanu or go home, and even then, you would have the largest clans and their hangers-on running around facerolling all the smaller groups. Taking over massive swaths of the warzone, while the smaller groups have no chance.
It's literally what WoW became with Tol Barad. The blob runs over, steamrolls all opposition, and moves on to the next flag, then the anklebiters attack the stragglers, decap it, and the circle continues.
No strategy, no tactics, just zerg rush as many objective points as possible before the other guys have to go to sleep. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4356
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:07:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Seems like were spending a lot of time talking about a PVE nerf in a PVP game. The pve in this case is important because it's a common source of isk for the null sec alliance pvp grunts whose ship deaths largely fuel the EVE online economy. I call it "PVE for supply" as opposed to the "PVE for fun" that many people do. PVE for supply is vital for pvp in this game. Those null sec grunts making isk in null sec (thus being easly subject to pvp themselves) is a good thing, those same grunts choosing to make isk in safer places is less good for the same reasons. A 5% nerf doesn't sound that bad (it isn't) execpt that it just further pushes the balance sheet further away from null sec for "PVE for supply". The only reason to do PVE in null NOW is just for fun because pve in other places is boring but just as capable of providing isk if you want isk for other things. This ESS thing won't kill EVE or null sec, it's just a step in a stupidly bad direction. Thank you for the explanation. I also appreciate the civil and non-condescending way in which you presented it.
That can't be, I'm the biggest troll since, well, 5 minutes ago when Tippia posted according to some, so I got a reputation to up hold.
Therefore, my I add a "Yo momma!" to restore balanc ein general discussion? Thank you
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2628
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:15:00 -
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LOL "Null not worth it anymore" "But... but... we were only out in null for the mission bounties! " "Forced into highsec" Did somebody throw a switch on a propaganda machine somewhere? Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of b.s.! |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
561
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:15:00 -
[364] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Seems like were spending a lot of time talking about a PVE nerf in a PVP game. The pve in this case is important because it's a common source of isk for the null sec alliance pvp grunts whose ship deaths largely fuel the EVE online economy. I call it "PVE for supply" as opposed to the "PVE for fun" that many people do. PVE for supply is vital for pvp in this game. Those null sec grunts making isk in null sec (thus being easly subject to pvp themselves) is a good thing, those same grunts choosing to make isk in safer places is less good for the same reasons. A 5% nerf doesn't sound that bad (it isn't) execpt that it just further pushes the balance sheet further away from null sec for "PVE for supply". The only reason to do PVE in null NOW is just for fun because pve in other places is boring but just as capable of providing isk if you want isk for other things. This ESS thing won't kill EVE or null sec, it's just a step in a stupidly bad direction. Thank you for the explanation. I also appreciate the civil and non-condescending way in which you presented it. That can't be, I'm the biggest troll since, well, 5 minutes ago when Tippia posted according to some, so I got a reputation to up hold. Therefore, my I add a "Yo momma!" to restore balanc ein general discussion? Thank you
I was afraid it would be taken as sarcasm because I have a 3rd degree black belt in sarcasm and this is GD after all. I am glad it wasn't. "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
561
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:19:00 -
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Layla Firoue wrote:By the way what are you guys doing with all thoses isks anyways? You don-¦t need them to replace personally lost ships thanks to reimbursement, so why are the goonies out in force and cry a river that would but the sty to shame?
I had to wonder this too. If your PVP is being subsidized by your corp/alliance SRP, why farm ISK? To PLEX? Stop PLEXing! Stop being a slave to ISK/hr! "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9837
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:21:00 -
[366] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:LOL "Null not worth it anymore" "But... but... we were only out in null for the mission bounties! " "Forced into highsec" Did somebody throw a switch on a propaganda machine somewhere? Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of b.s.!
Whats hard to get about this?
You earn more in high sec with near perfect safety. Why would you chose null sec which offers the worst option? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
561
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:25:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:LOL "Null not worth it anymore" "But... but... we were only out in null for the mission bounties! " "Forced into highsec" Did somebody throw a switch on a propaganda machine somewhere? Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of b.s.! Whats hard to get about this? You earn more in high sec with near perfect safety. Why would you chose null sec which offers the worst option?
That's a great question Baltec! One that deserves an answer. So as a current resident of null sec why do you stay there given it's the worst option?
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4356
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:26:00 -
[368] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:Layla Firoue wrote:By the way what are you guys doing with all thoses isks anyways? You don-¦t need them to replace personally lost ships thanks to reimbursement, so why are the goonies out in force and cry a river that would but the sty to shame? I had to wonder this too. If your PVP is being subsidized by your corp/alliance SRP, why farm ISK? To PLEX? Stop PLEXing! Stop being a slave to ISK/hr!
You need to buy ships for them to be replaced in the 1st place. Those ships need modules. Combat doctrines change so you ned to refit (inclduing rigs). You need isk to do other things (like say you want to join RVB, you don't need a lot of isk but you need some to buy those frigs and cruisers). Say you want to start seeding a null market, that takes isk. Or you want to go into a wormhole and screw around, need isk for that etc.
As for plex, some of us have lots of free time but think the idea of working overtime to play a video gameis stupid. My IRL job requires me to go into a freaking ghetto in a uniform (ie target on my back), screw that, ima stay home , drink beer naked earn isk and plex.
I don't know why people have this idea that null sec players JUST blob each other and do nothing else. We do like to play EVE too. |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:LOL "Null not worth it anymore" "But... but... we were only out in null for the mission bounties! " "Forced into highsec" Did somebody throw a switch on a propaganda machine somewhere? Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of b.s.! Whats hard to get about this? You earn more in high sec with near perfect safety. Why would you chose null sec which offers the worst option?
Hey everyone, if you say stuff enough times it makes it true! No proof needed whatsoever. CCP has no idea about where the most ISK is dropped since there is no way they could ever run any sort of statistical metrics on their own database! Listen to the Goons! They are the most trustworthy people in New Eden! When have they ever screwed anyone over for personal gain? You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9837
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:32:00 -
[370] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:
That's a great question Baltec! One that deserves an answer. So as a current resident of null sec why do you stay there given it's the worst option?
I don't. I do all of my isk earning in high sec and just travel back for the fights. I don't live in null. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2118
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:33:00 -
[371] - Quote
Quote:CCP has no idea about where the most ISK is dropped since there is no way they could ever run any sort of statistical metrics on their own database!
They were, from what I gather, discussing actual liquid isk.
Not income. I wager they would really rather not admit that median income is higher for L4s than almost anything else but Incursions.
Scamming, of course, still being the best source of income available. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
565
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:40:00 -
[372] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:You need to buy ships for them to be replaced in the 1st place. Those ships need modules. Combat doctrines change so you ned to refit (inclduing rigs). You need isk to do other things (like say you want to join RVB, you don't need a lot of isk but you need some to buy those frigs and cruisers). Say you want to start seeding a null market, that takes isk. Or you want to go into a wormhole and screw around, need isk for that etc.
As for plex, some of us have lots of free time but think the idea of working overtime to play a video gameis stupid. My IRL job requires me to go into a freaking ghetto in a uniform (ie target on my back), screw that, ima stay home , drink beer naked earn isk and plex.
if you ever came into my ghetto, I would not shoot you. Because the power of love > the love of power. Also I'm a carebear.
Jenn aSide wrote:I don't know why people have this idea that null sec players JUST blob each other and do nothing else. We do like to play EVE too.
Optics.
Much of what the "uninformed" player sees and hears likely represents the worst of Null. As a new player 6 years ago I remember stories of chicanery and asshattery. On this forum, I see posts about this thing in Null sucks, that thing in Null sucks. I see posts from people who, rather than explain their position in any kind of diplomatic or reasonable way, tend to berate and belittle us "lesser mortals". It is really, REALLY hard to be sympathetic to someone that acts the way some of these people do. "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Silent Rambo
State Protectorate Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:43:00 -
[373] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:CCP has no idea about where the most ISK is dropped since there is no way they could ever run any sort of statistical metrics on their own database! They were, from what I gather, discussing actual liquid isk. Not income. I wager they would really rather not admit that median income is higher for L4s than almost anything else but Incursions. Scamming, of course, still being the best source of income available.
And you base these thoughts on what exactly? All I see are opinion based assumptions, and potential bias.
You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
566
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:51:00 -
[374] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:
That's a great question Baltec! One that deserves an answer. So as a current resident of null sec why do you stay there given it's the worst option?
I don't. I do all of my isk earning in high sec and just travel back for the fights. I don't live in null.
So this ESS horseshit would not really affect you at all?
I get that that isn't the point. You want to make your ISK in Null.
Someone in another thread, I think the threadnaught about nerfing HS, mentioned that in calculating risk v reward for NS, CCP could only account for risk from NPC entities. PC entities and the risk presented by them would be too much of an unknown and incalculable variable in any estimation of reward. I thought that was a really good point.
Like a HS miner that mines without incident for days or weeks or months the reward is calculated by the risk presented by NPCs in the system but not by gankers or can flippers. Same thing in Null, the rewards are only calculated by the rats and other NPCs in the system and not by the cloaked cyno roaming about.
This is a lot of words and kind of rambling but I'm hoping everyone understands what I'm thinking better than I can express it in words.
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4124
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:53:00 -
[375] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:LOL "Null not worth it anymore" "But... but... we were only out in null for the mission bounties! " "Forced into highsec" Did somebody throw a switch on a propaganda machine somewhere? Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of b.s.!
Like I said, what happened to the Goonswarm we loved to hate?
Though I asked Joepopo once why goons have apparently sold out to carebearing, and he said "technetium".
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Mag's
the united SCUM.
16521
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:54:00 -
[376] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:
That's a great question Baltec! One that deserves an answer. So as a current resident of null sec why do you stay there given it's the worst option?
I don't. I do all of my isk earning in high sec and just travel back for the fights. I don't live in null. So this ESS horseshit would not really affect you at all? I get that that isn't the point. You want to make your ISK in Null. Someone in another thread, I think the threadnaught about nerfing HS, mentioned that in calculating risk v reward for NS, CCP could only account for risk from NPC entities. PC entities and the risk presented by them would be too much of an unknown and incalculable variable in any estimation of reward. I thought that was a really good point. Like a HS miner that mines without incident for days or weeks or months the reward is calculated by the risk presented by NPCs in the system but not by gankers or can flippers. Same thing in Null, the rewards are only calculated by the rats and other NPCs in the system and not by the cloaked cyno roaming about. This is a lot of words and kind of rambling but I'm hoping everyone understands what I'm thinking better than I can express it in words. Yea we see it.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Galadriel Vasquez
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
197
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:55:00 -
[377] - Quote
Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... I have tin foil hat trained to 5. |
Thead Enco
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
49
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:00:00 -
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This module is the most ******** mechanic brought to TQ since the bastard that was "WiS" was brought to the community.......
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tywin Lannister-á |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16525
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:00:00 -
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Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current.
Don't use one, you get 95%.
If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Galadriel Vasquez
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
199
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:05:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS.
That is the most stupidest idea ever made. ever. I have tin foil hat trained to 5. |
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
694
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:06:00 -
[381] - Quote
Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... CCP's nerfing ratting income by 5% in null. They've also introduced (or are in the process of introducing) a structure that further reduces a system's income by 15%, but that produces a pot worth approximately 25% of additional ratting income, for a net 105% income. But anyone can pretty much loot it, not to mention the 5% reward you'd gain doesn't seem enough to take the risk for the 20% you'd lose if the pot was "misappropriated". In my opinion, it really does border useless. |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
569
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:07:00 -
[382] - Quote
Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS. That is the most stupidest idea ever made. ever.
I really hate to disagree with you (that's a lie, I live to disagree), but I must. The plastic coffee stirrer is the stupidest idea ever. "Um, we have ******* spoons already!!"
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Galadriel Vasquez
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
199
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:10:00 -
[383] - Quote
Hmmm I cannot believe someone in CCP HQ thought this up and then - and here's the clincher -
THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. I have tin foil hat trained to 5. |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16525
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:12:00 -
[384] - Quote
Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Hmmm I cannot believe someone in CCP HQ thought this up and then - and here's the clincher -
THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. So they created the nerf, in order to justify the unit use. Only, who in their right mind would risk 20% to gain 5?
But hey, it will create conflict.........
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
694
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:15:00 -
[385] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Optics.
Much of what the "uninformed" player sees and hears likely represents the worst of Null. As a new player 6 years ago I remember stories of chicanery and asshattery. On this forum, I see posts about this thing in Null sucks, that thing in Null sucks. I see posts from people who, rather than explain their position in any kind of diplomatic or reasonable way, tend to berate and belittle us "lesser mortals". It is really, REALLY hard to be sympathetic to someone that acts the way some of these people do.
I think it's actually a very common attitude displayed by the most frequent null sec posters. For whatever reasons they tend to be very hostile, demeaning, and with overzealous convictions on how things should be done.
I've already seen plenty of threads recently from null sec players threatening CCP with 'punishing' hi sec players with suicide gankings and general harassment over the introduction of the ESS, as if this was some how hi sec players' idea. The misguided rage and contempt is simply incomprehensible. |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
569
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:17:00 -
[386] - Quote
Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Hmmm I cannot believe someone in CCP HQ thought this up and then - and here's the clincher -
THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
I think this is typical of every corporation.
Back in the day there was one guy. We'll call him Steve.
Steve was a hard worker but had a tendency to listen to various business proposals and say emphatically, "That is the dumbest ******* idea I've ever heard".
Steve has since been fired/sacked which is too bad because he had a wife and three adorable children and now companies make stupid, poorly designed, and unnecessary crap.
Every company NEEDS a Steve. Rehire Steve!
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
280
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:17:00 -
[387] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS.
Close.
The money doesn't get placed into the ESS. It gets placed into a bank account attached to that system. If the ESS is destroyed, the money still exists in the bank account.
Redeploying allows you to re-access the bank account.
It's a really really weird/bad thing. It has a lot of strange baggage attached to it. |
Galadriel Vasquez
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
202
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:19:00 -
[388] - Quote
Pinky Hops wrote:Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS. Close. The money doesn't get placed into the ESS. It gets placed into a bank account attached to that system. If the ESS is destroyed, the money still exists in the bank account. Redeploying allows you to re-access the bank account. It's a really really weird/bad thing. It has a lot of strange baggage attached to it.
Is it cast in stone going ahead? Or is it being mooted? I have tin foil hat trained to 5. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
2119
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:20:00 -
[389] - Quote
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:
Optics.
Much of what the "uninformed" player sees and hears likely represents the worst of Null. As a new player 6 years ago I remember stories of chicanery and asshattery. On this forum, I see posts about this thing in Null sucks, that thing in Null sucks. I see posts from people who, rather than explain their position in any kind of diplomatic or reasonable way, tend to berate and belittle us "lesser mortals". It is really, REALLY hard to be sympathetic to someone that acts the way some of these people do.
I think it's actually a very common attitude displayed by the most frequent null sec posters. For whatever reasons they tend to be very hostile, demeaning, and with overzealous convictions on how things should be done. I've already seen plenty of threads recently from null sec players threatening CCP with 'punishing' hi sec players with suicide gankings and general harassment over the introduction of the ESS, as if this was some how hi sec players' idea. The misguided rage and contempt is simply incomprehensible.
Yeah, we hate the nullsec players because they're like, mean and stuff.
Not that you guys aren't literally doing the same thing right now towards a different group, among one another. On reddit they call it a circlejerk. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16527
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:22:00 -
[390] - Quote
Pinky Hops wrote:Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS. Close. The money doesn't get placed into the ESS. It gets placed into a bank account attached to that system. If the ESS is destroyed, the money still exists in the bank account. Redeploying allows you to re-access the bank account. It's a really really weird/bad thing. It has a lot of strange baggage attached to it. Ooh my bad, I missed that. It's actually worse than I thought.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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