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drummendejef maaktnietuit Active Fusion Cold Fusion. 0	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:50:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, most of us know, and don't forget, that Jita gets full from time to time. The gates close then sitting alot of big expensive ships with a more expensive load sitting duck. This makes the Jita gate more dangerous than a lowsec gate to die on, while you should be on the safest part beeing in 1.0 space. This makes me wonder, shouldn't it be a good idea to make a player invulnerable when he presses the "take gate" button? That way the ships made for surviving null/lowsec can also survive highsec. (if not autopilotted, duh!) I'm talking about Blockade Runners, Covert Ops, T3's.
Erotica 1 Krypteia Operations CODE. 3790	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:51:00 - [2] - Quote No See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Little Dragon Khamez Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition 1074	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:56:00 - [3] - Quote if a sitting duck decides to move he might dodge the occasional bullet. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Seven Koskanaiken Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 883	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:58:00 - [4] - Quote 8/10
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2488	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:59:00 - [5] - Quote drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote: This makes me wonder, shouldn't it be a good idea to make a player invulnerable when he presses the "take gate" button? That's cool. It makes me think that it would be a better idea to go dock up somewhere nearby and wait until off-peak hours to get into Jita. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 19569	Posted - 2014.02.23 17:59:00 - [6] - Quote No. Try using a non-camped gate. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Oblivion King Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:01:00 - [7] - Quote if the player is invulnerable can he also shoot other players? "press jita gate" "invulnerable" "proceed to shoot everyone in the vicinity"
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 34	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:02:00 - [8] - Quote Don't worry concord will kill the gankers
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 34	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:04:00 - [9] - Quote Oblivion King wrote: if the player is invulnerable can he also shoot other players? "press jita gate" "invulnerable" "proceed to shoot everyone in the vicinity" I'm going to say no as it would be similar to dock/undock invul and the like
Angeleh Silverflames 2	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:05:00 - [10] - Quote A ship that has made it to the gate and activated it should be out safe and not risk being killed. The gate malfunctioning and not transporting the ship is a game fault that then makes the ship vulnerable - and gankers knowing where this game fault happens a lot makes the fault easily exploitable. I can see where OP is coming from, just saying people need to move is not a solution at all. First large ships takes forever to move in which time they could be killed (but should have been safe), secondly the ship needs to stay right at the gate to keep spamming the jump command. I have not yet been killed at a Jita gate while waiting to get in though and do not know if it is really problem?
Dave Stark 4376	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:07:00 - [11] - Quote to be fair, there should be some way to know if jita is full other than having to try the gate. no other gate is closed, let alone with no indication. not to mention there should be some kind of queue for the jita gate since having to spam the jump button to get in is ***** ****** in itself.
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet 1003	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:10:00 - [12] - Quote Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
drummendejef maaktnietuit Active Fusion Cold Fusion. 0	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:11:00 - [13] - Quote Agondray wrote: Don't worry concord will kill the gankers Yeah, but if you are in a Blockade Runner or a Covert Op, CONCORD won't be fast enough. Domanique Altares wrote: It makes me think that it would be a better idea to go dock up somewhere nearby and wait until off-peak hours to get into Jita. Not everyone has the ability to come online at the off-peak hours? Oblivion King wrote: if the player is invulnerable can he also shoot other players? Offcourse not, it's like when the session change is already in progress, you can't do anything except wait. Angeleh wrote: I have not yet been killed at a Jita gate while waiting to get in though and do not know if it is really problem? It happened to me yesterday, I also don't really know if there are alot of people having the same experience, but I don't really like it. I was dead before I could read the pop-up message.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2489	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:11:00 - [14] - Quote Angeleh wrote: The gate malfunctioning and not transporting the ship is a game fault that then makes the ship vulnerable - and gankers knowing where this game fault happens a lot makes the fault easily exploitable. The gate is not malfunctioning. It is performing its purpose as intended. The fact that players know that this is the case, and that it will happen during US and EU prime time, and on Sunday afternoons, and yet they still deliberately choose these times to go to Jita indicates that they find the risk acceptable. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 19570	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:12:00 - [15] - Quote Angeleh wrote: A ship that has made it to the gate and activated it should be out safe and not risk being killed. Why? This isn't Ender's Game. The enemy gate is not down. Quote: The gate malfunctioning and not transporting the ship is a game fault that then makes the ship vulnerable GÇªexcept that the gate is not malfunctioning and it is not a game fault. If you get stuck on a gate with tons of valuables, it is rather your fault for not trying to ensure your own safety. Sticking around on a well-trafficked, ganker-packed gate to a system that is often closed doesn't quite qualifyGÇª GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Dave Stark 4376	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:12:00 - [16] - Quote Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!"
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2489	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:13:00 - [17] - Quote drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote: Not everyone has the ability to come online at the off-peak hours? You know, I feel your pain. Just imagine, though! What if there were a way to have your things moved around by another player when you don't have the time or capacity to do so, and have them insured by some form of collateral payment if the shipment fails? That would be fantastic! Going to F&I to suggest this ground breaking idea! Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 19570	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:15:00 - [18] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's a pretty silly suggestion. Why are you making it? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2489	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:15:00 - [19] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's pretty much what OP wants to do. He wants to play Route 66 Online, where the Good Buddy Convoy always gets their shipment in on time. What he's actually playing is EVE Online, where Jita Traffic Control cockblocks you, and loitering on the gate makes you fodder for people who want your stuff. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Dave Stark 4376	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:16:00 - [20] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: drummendejef maaktnietuit wrote: Not everyone has the ability to come online at the off-peak hours? You know, I feel your pain. Just imagine, though! What if there were a way to have your things moved around by another player when you don't have the time or capacity to do so, and have them insured by some form of collateral payment if the shipment fails? That would be fantastic! Going to F&I to suggest this ground breaking idea! but i don't want my things moved around by other players, i just want to get in to jita.
Dave Stark 4377	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:18:00 - [21] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's pretty much what OP wants to do. He wants to play Route 66 Online, where the Good Buddy Convoy always gets their shipment in on time. What he's actually playing is EVE Online, where Jita Traffic Control cockblocks you, and loitering on the gate makes you fodder for people who want your stuff. route 66 online can probably cater to the amount of people they have playing. eve quite clearly can't in this regard.
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 1222	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:20:00 - [22] - Quote Threads like this make me giggle like a little school girl. OP, sorry your **** got blown up. That's the way this game is. You have a couple of choices: 1) Quit playing. Any developer not willing to submit to your very specific demands, despite the other 499,999 players in the game, does not deserve your hard earned money. 2) Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game!
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2491	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:27:00 - [23] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Domanique Altares wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's pretty much what OP wants to do. He wants to play Route 66 Online, where the Good Buddy Convoy always gets their shipment in on time. What he's actually playing is EVE Online, where Jita Traffic Control cockblocks you, and loitering on the gate makes you fodder for people who want your stuff. route 66 online can probably cater to the amount of people they have playing. eve quite clearly can't in this regard. Indeed. He should likely take his subscription dollars to them, then, shouldn't he? Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Dave Stark 4382	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:34:00 - [24] - Quote Domanique Altares wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Domanique Altares wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's pretty much what OP wants to do. He wants to play Route 66 Online, where the Good Buddy Convoy always gets their shipment in on time. What he's actually playing is EVE Online, where Jita Traffic Control cockblocks you, and loitering on the gate makes you fodder for people who want your stuff. route 66 online can probably cater to the amount of people they have playing. eve quite clearly can't in this regard. Indeed. He should likely take his subscription dollars to them, then, shouldn't he? not really, telling some one to quit the game and go elsewhere when they point out how **** the jita gates are during peak times isn't really that constructive, it just makes you look like a bit of a to be honest. the situation is , and it does need looking at. however i guess telling people to go ** themselves is easier for all involved instead of addressing problems properly... seems to be the new theme as of late.
Dave Stark 4382	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:35:00 - [25] - Quote Tippia wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue. "don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's a pretty silly suggestion. Why are you making it? it wasn't a suggestion.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 2645	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:35:00 - [26] - Quote I sense autopilot was involved, somehow. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
LUMINOUS SPIRIT The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 122	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:37:00 - [27] - Quote OP is right, closed gates are a broken game mechanic. +1 to making ships invulnerable while they sit in a queue after having clicked the jump button. gankers can go **** themselves.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 19571	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:42:00 - [28] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: it wasn't a suggestion. Sure it was. Just look at that exclamation mark at the end GÇö classic case of an imperative. LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote: OP is right, closed gates are a broken game mechanic. What's more broken: invulnerability or gates behaving normally? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1.
Centis Adjani The Scope Gallente Federation 66	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:42:00 - [29] - Quote I always wondered why all people want to sell their items in Jita. The market browser shows the complete Region, so why not sell at a Station in neighbour system? Or at one of the other Trade Hubs like Dodixie, Hek, Amarr, etc. Even the prices to accomplish are better there.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2491	Posted - 2014.02.23 18:45:00 - [30] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: not really, telling some one to quit the game and go elsewhere when they point out how **** the jita gates are during peak times isn't really that constructive, it just makes you look like a bit of a to be honest. the situation is , and it does need looking at. however i guess telling people to go themselves is easier for all involved instead of addressing problems properly... seems to be the new theme as of late. That's cool. I'll look like a bit of a '**' and you can continue looking like a petulant child in the midst of a temper tantrum. I haven't told anyone to quit playing. As an aside and to the contrary, I have now twice told OP how to play better. What I did do was suggest that his money may be better spent elsewhere if this game makes him so unhappy. The fact that he appears to be wanting to play a different game than this one leads me to the logical conclusion that he might be better served by playing that other game, whatever it happens to be. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.

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