except, not going to jita isn't improving things at all.

if ccp just put jita on a better server with more hamsters jita will stop sucking, being capped, and being locked. people shouldn't have to avoid parts of the game because the game can't support it's population.

no, it doesn't. as i just pointed out.

except, not going to jita isn't improving things at all.

There isn't a better server Dave. Even if there were, we would just hit the cap again and you'd be back here bitching about it again. Welcome to Uselessness - Population: Dave Stark's solution.

And people don't have to avoid parts of the game. They can still go to Jita but they have to account for the cap. If they are not accounting for the cap then they are, in the words of Tippia, just being sloppy.

There isn't a better server Dave. Even if there were, we would just hit the cap again and you'd be back here bitching about it again. Welcome to Uselessness - Population: Dave Stark's solution.

And people don't have to avoid parts of the game. They can still go to Jita but they have to account for the cap. If they are not accounting for the cap then they are, in the words of Tippia, just being sloppy.

Sure it does, unless you're sloppy. You just gave lots of excuses for refusing to use the many many tools at your disposal.

Stop being obstinate and put in some effort, and the GÇ£problemGÇ¥ goes away entirely.

GǪaside from improving the ability to get goods in and out of Jita.

yeah, you can't get things in and out of jita if you aren't there to do it.

Of course you can. Don't tell me you're that ignorant of game mechanicsGǪ please!

explain to me, how you can get things in and out of jita without being in jita. please, enlighten me as to how i would do that.

Like so or so, according to need.

no they don't have to; but that's what you're telling them to do. you can account for the cap all you want, but when you can't tell when the gate is open or closed you're going to get stuck on it as the OP pointed out. i mean, i just opened jita local and my star map. the starmap said it had less than 2k players but i looked at local and saw 2130. that means the gate will be closed as the cap is 2125 (iirc). that's not me being sloppy, that's the very simple fact that you can't calculate if the gate is locked or not.

How so, when there's no real lag involved? There's little to none in Jita and definitely none in the system where the OP's supposed problems manifest themselves.

It seems entirely fair that people should apply some intelligence to solve their problems, especially when it will so easily deal with this particular one rather than sit around slack-jawed and boggle at how their inactivity leads to all kinds of undesirable outcomes.

Because it's not broken. It's not unplayable.

OP is right, closed gates are a broken game mechanic.

+1 to making ships invulnerable while they sit in a queue after having clicked the jump button.

gankers can go **** themselves.

no, i asked how YOU move things if you're not in jita

Like so or so, according to need.

GǪand I showed you: like so or so, according to need.

This lets you get things in and out of Jita without being in Jita. Your refusal to use the mechanics at hand is your problem, not a problem with the game.

Then always assume that on the weekends, during primetime, the gates will be locked ALWAYS. Because they are locked ALWAYS.

It's no different than assuming there is a gate camp on the other side of the gate into LowSec. So you act accordingly.
It's no different than assuming there is an Interdiction Bubble at that gate in Null. So you act accordingly.

ALWAYS assume that on the weekends, during American and European primetime, those gates are going to be locked and act accordingly. Thus is the problem solved.

No fancy new hardware, no more hamsters, no voodoo. Just smart assumptions.

no, you giving me an answer to a question i didn't ask isn't me refusing to do anything.

you're just wrong; it's not easier for you to move things if you're not in jita

Those of you arguing players are at fault here are quite literally apologising on CCP's behalf for overloaded servers and hardware and not only blaming players but curtailing any debate as to how the problem can be resolved. And I seriously doubt many of you even undock!

they aren't always locked though.

Tank your ships and dont stuff them full of plunder. We have deep space trasports for this very thing.

I have someone else do it because Contracting is a thing.

I was enjoying hauling (Small, valuable cargos using some form of blockade running) as my original, starting EVE career until I learned of the likes of Push and the Frogs. It's just so much cheaper and easier to offload the risk to them and to simply focus on other things. There's a reason people specialise in different areas and I'd much rather pay somebody for their speciality than try to do what they do as well as what I currently do.

As opposed to suggesting invulnerability for people who can't be bothered to stay away from Jita due to some imagined, compulsory, and player driven reason.

As opposed to suggesting trucker tags so ONLY transports and freighters are allowed to enter these player created hubs.

Reinforcing adjacent systems/reviewing the regions they are in and promoting constellationwide chat channels might help.

Yeah, let's take more nodes away from fleet fights.

I sense autopilot was involved, somehow.

What about a pop-up that Jita is at capacity when you initiate warp to a Jita gate?

unless you warp instantly; you're stuck for an amount of time. anyone with half a brain needs but a few seconds to take advantage of that.

Get a better server