yeah but this has nothing to do with patience, this is the fact that you can't tell if jumping to the jita gate is going to end badly for you or not.

sitting at the gate and giving yourself RSI isn't a reason why a bad system shouldn't be improved upon.

i don't really get why people are so upset when people want to improve areas of the game but if you guys want to carry on playing the game in it's current state; go ahead and actually play the game instead of reading such horrific suggestions like making things suck less!

autopiloting has nothing to do with this -.-

you shouldn't even have to click the gate button more than once, giving yourself RSI shouldn't be a requirement of entering jita. this is my entire point, the way the solution has been implemented could be vastly improved.

sure it's not worth the time or effort to actually fix it, but that doesn't change that it's **** and open to improvement.

You can't tell if undocking is going to end badly for you or not, either. Let's nerf that. Idc how.

Also, you don't want to improve the game. You want to buff your playstyle, at the expense of someone else's. At least that's what the OP wants, anyway.

At least have the moral courage to call a spade a spade.

If people just stopped jumping into and out of Jita, there would be no problem. But good luck trying to get anyone to stop doing it, They will, like you, demand changes and wonder why they can't get in. Then, in all their intellectual glory, they'll come here and pound their impotent fists on the table because it's got to be CCP's fault.

wanting gates to actually work isn't a buff or nerf to anyone's play style.

Good news: they already work.

yes you can tell if it's going to end badly; undock and dock up before the invulnerability timer runs out.... that was a bad example on your part.

wanting gates to actually work isn't a buff or nerf to anyone's play style.

i have been calling a spade a spade; the system to get in to jita is ******* horrible and could easily be improved.

clicked jump on the jita gate.
didn't jump me in to jita.

pretty sure that's the very definition of "not working".

clicked jump on the jita gate.
didn't jump me in to jita.

pretty sure that's the very definition of "not working".

You can't really be this dense...

Do you not understand why you didn't jump?

clicked jump on the jita gate.
didn't jump me in to jita.

Working as intended.

aaand we're back to people making useless comments because apparently suggesting improvements is such an abhorred passtime.

You're not suggesting an improvement. Neither is the OP.

doesn't change the fact that the way jumping in to jita is handled is terrible and open to improvement.

aaand we're back to people making useless comments because apparently suggesting improvements is such an abhorred passtime.

i have, but you've decided to ignore it and make dumb comments v0v

Should we have this for every system or just Jita?

Your first post was you claiming that you should be able to find out with certainty whether or not you would be able to jump, before you got on the same grid as the gate.

Which is, again, not an improvement. It's just asinine to suggest that you should get such absolute knowledge without having to do anything for it.

Other than that, all you've done is white knight for the OP, who is undoubtedly a troll. Agreeing with him is, again, not an improvement to the game. It's suggesting a buff to the OP's playstyle at the expense of others.

Doesn't change the fact that the gates are working GÇö as intended, and as expected GÇö and that any claim otherwise is wilfully ignorant.

every system, obviously. the thing we're fixing isn't "the jita gate" it's "the solution we apply to full systems".

every system, obviously. the thing we're fixing isn't "the jita gate" it's "the solution we apply to full systems".

So, you're suggesting that, before anyone, anywhere, warps to any gate, that the client pings the server to see if the gate is locked or not? And that this information be available on demand, yes?

If so, why not just put the entire game into 10% TiDi and call it a day, because that would triple the server load instantly. You are literally asking CCP to DDOS themselves.

This is why people with "suggestions" need to shut the **** up. Because they can't see past their own nose, see past their cute little problem into how the game really works, and why.

Do you have any idea how much additional processing on single cores a query like that would take?

You're asking CCP to move mountains with a spoon.

And the reason you're asking them to do so is because you CBA to go somewhere else.

I've never seen anything so ill conceived and dumb.

i haven't claimed once that the system isn't working as intended.

clicked jump on the jita gate.
didn't jump me in to jita.

pretty sure that's the very definition of "not working".

no, i've just suggested that you should be able to tell if the gate you're trying to go through is closed or not.

no, i've just suggested that you should be able to tell if the gate you're trying to go through is closed or not. i haven't made a single comment on how that should take place.

if that's the terrible design you'd give it, then yeah please shut up with your terrible ideas.

Yes you have. Multiple times.

You pretty much already can.

no, i've just suggested that you should be able to tell if the gate you're trying to go through is closed or not.