I did address this.

There would be a queue dialog box that you could cancel. At which point you would be spit out back to the gate you just jumped from with your normal cloak as if you had just jumped from jita.

I also don't care as i outsource my shipping but I do see it as a fault of the server and I don't understand why players should be punished.

Its not impossible. Dont be stupid. Maelstroms counter slows, Megas counter slows, Rokhs, Ravens, Hyperions, Tempests and Phoons counter slows. Baddons, and Geddons, and Apocs counter slows. (the only hull that isn't a direct counter to slows is the Domi. It counters BC and smaller to support BS fleets against smaller ****).

Your post screams

"Its different because it doesn't impact me and mine, so there for it isn;t and issue"

The only problem with this is the false premise that you can't find out before you land on the gate. You can. People just choose not to. There is forewarning.

Nope. You are wrong here. Jita closing gates is an abnormal system function comparable to every other system in EVE. Not even null battles have this arbitrary restriction in place. Jita is the only system in the game this applies to, and it is up to CCP to make this situation not impact the daily functions of EVE players, not EVE players having to change game method for one singular occurrence that only happens roughly 40% of game play time.

A simple message on entering the system (New Caldari for example)

"Jita Gates are experiencing slight delays due to high traffic volumes" Solves this whole issue.

No other system requires you to check a gate to see if it functions amywhere in the game, because instead you just get put into the tidi tunnel if load is to high.

There is not forewarning without having to do stuff that you need not do on any other gate in the game. Thats the point. Jita is a special snowflake in EVE, and its time CCP acknowledge that they have an issue.

Not only does this help pilots. This also helps reduce server load. Which is the whole point of the cap in the first place.

All I get from this is "CCP don't get rid of my Saturday afternoon fish barrel...I don't know how to really PVP and depend on Jita restrictions".

If it was so easy then why did no slowcat fleet on either side die to subcaps?

Subcaps simply lack the firepower to beak their tank while their sentries alpha any subcap every cycle. You would need a fleet of 1600 megathrons to beat a full slowcat fleet. So no, it is impossible hence why this fleet is getting nerfed.

Ganking however is countered by simply fitting a tank and not stuffing billions into the hold.

No. It's rather "If I don't do my homework or if I do outright stupid things, I'm not entitled to call for CCP to fix things that aren't broken".

That said I do not engage actively in HS PvP. I'm a carebear. In HS I'm just a gank taget like everybody else.

Making a ship invulnerable goes against everything EVE stands for. You should not be removed from risk while you sit on a gate, people should never be protected from their own stupidity.

I guess I'm full ******, whatever that means.

No one is saying remove ganking,

but gankers shouldnt get to take advantage just because the system is full capacity.

Wrong.

There has been no full slowcat fleet killed by subcaps. Once they hit a critical mass subcaps do not have the firepower to kill them.



We are the corp that invented industrialised ganking.

I "Baltec1" an F1 monkey just reguritates what I think is the situation.

So the 30 sec cloak you get after every gate jump or invunerability on undock shoul be removed also?

No one is saying remove ganking, but gankers shouldnt get to take advantage just because the system is full capacity.

Here's a basic example:
Manually piloted freighter warps to gate
click * click * awww shite, its saturday [just worked a solid week and can only play weekends] * align out * align * splat
Please justify this as acceptable

No not always. You are completly WRONG.

I think you'll find Baltec is more than an F1 monkey, he's a living legend who had a doctrine named after him.

No not always. You are completly WRONG.

I can think of 4 different occasions CFC defeated Slow Cat fleets fielding subcaps..

Nope. People are exploiting this to gank people.
Ganking needs to exist in balance, and when server mechanics or limitations are exploited - it's an exploit.
I'm not blaming anyone for doing it, or upholding victim rights blehblehbleh.
Tbf I think people who go to Jita on a weekend are a bit dim. BUT.

Here's a basic example:
Manually piloted freighter warps to gate
click * click * awww shite, its saturday [just worked a solid week and can only play weekends] * align out * align * splat
Please justify this as acceptable
ps. character has chosen 'courier' as a profession

How does it reduce server load?

It gives an incentive to warp off instead of swamping the node in jump requests.

This is a reasonable situation. I am sure it happens often
[Did you just flash me wth impertinence? Fingers crossed, it shows life]
I appreciate that you're asking
[Now I feel smug: Have converted forum thing to person. I might just need a coffee tho. It's all so confusing.]

If the character has chosen Courier as a profession

That is the point I've been trying to make. I give a lot of respect to CCP and her devs for making a brilliant game. I do not trust them with changes in mechanics. The nature of the sandbox is that we leverage the existing mechanics to make the game more vibrant. I get that getting your **** blown up waiting on a gate sucks. I don't think anyone can deny that. What I don't get is why people don't figure out ways to outsmart those rascally gankers and really stick it to them rather than ask CCP to add stupid crap mechanics that are unnecessary and will likely be horrible.

I say let players play the game and tell the devs to stay the **** home.

Despite the fact that I have to resort to an e-cig and decaf coffee before the drive from hell I made time especially for you (I like you!) - so I'll try to be nice.

Capitalising Courier then attempting to talk authoritatively about the 'profession' is a bit of a giveaway that you have no idea what you are on about other than regurgitating forum spam. You threw yourself into that one beautifully tho!



Giving a lot of respect to CCP then mistrusting them with further development is both disturbing and well, utterly sensible in my eyes too! But that isn't what you've been arguing here until now so stop backpedalling.

The forums are here to facilitate player squawking and rambling regardless of the entitlement of the squatters. We don't need self appointed gatekeepers, particularly if they are twats. We already have CCP and the CSM ffs. Tippia might still be around in a year or two pedantically correcting people. The rest won't. I dare you to disagree with them (for a year or two). Just for fun.

I say let players play the game and tell the devs to stay the **** home.

Actually, I'm pretty sure you think it should be removed based on previous posts you've made.



Gankers are taking advantage of people sitting on a gate, not of the next system being full.

You cant comprehend what I write, much less what I am thinking.

No, always.

If it wasn't worthwhile to gank, no one would do it.

If people orbited asteroids with an afterburner on, they wouldn't be ganked easily enough to make it worthwhile.

If people weren't stupid enough to afk in open space with deadspace mods, they wouldn't explode. And heck, even when they do, they live far too often.

If you are ganked, it is your fault, because it could have been avoided.

LOL No one can.

Should if's and buts be candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas. if your Aunt had gahona's would she still be your Aunt?

We could what if anything into the ground. I am sure you guys would and will continue to argue because that is what you love to do.

Reasonable people with any kind of intelligence would be able to discern that not only can people be ganked through no fault of their own but it happens every day. Even baltic said 99/100 not 100/100 but 99/100 even he is capable seeing itGÇÖs not always.


People can take every precaution available and should you be at the wrong place at the wrong time you can still get ganked.

Ganking is just part of the game but to suggest that every single person that ever was or will be ganked is ALWAYS at fault is ignorant.

People can take every precaution available and should you be at the wrong place at the wrong time you can still get ganked.

Ganking is just part of the game but to suggest that every single person that ever was or will be ganked is ALWAYS at fault is ignorant.