I always wondered why all people want to sell their items in Jita.

The market browser shows the complete Region, so why not sell at a Station in neighbour system?

Or at one of the other Trade Hubs like Dodixie, Hek, Amarr, etc. Even the prices to accomplish are better there.

That's cool. I'll look like a bit of a '****' and you can continue looking like a petulant child in the midst of a temper tantrum.

I haven't told anyone to quit playing. As an aside and to the contrary, I have now twice told OP how to play better. What I did do was suggest that his money may be better spent elsewhere if this game makes him so unhappy. The fact that he appears to be wanting to play a different game than this one leads me to the logical conclusion that he might be better served by playing that other game, whatever it happens to be.

it's not about playing better, though. that's the entire point that you seem to be missing.

he doesn't appear to want to play a different game at all, he simply wants consistency. he wants all stargates to work rather than having one that's basically a guessing game as to whether or not you can actually use it.

It IS consistent. He just doesn't want to acknowledge that. They all work the same way. When they hit system cap during Battle for Caldari Prime, it did the same thing.

It works the same way across the galaxy, it's not one, it's all of them.

And that means the solution is still the same. Go elsewhere.

no, it's not consistent. you never have to gamble with any other gate. caldari prime was given plenty of notice etc, jita is just "meh, take your luck".

Both are the results of players making the choice to be there. Just like with Caldari Prime, you know full well when you're going there that the possibility exists. By choosing to sell or buy there instead of, you know, one of the other 4 trade hubs, you have made your choice.

buying and selling has nothing to do with this.

Yeah, traders aren't a big part of Jita gate traffic at all, silly me.

no, they aren't. did you not read the other thread with ccp navigator?

chat and market transactions are handled by another bit of hardware. it's the people jumping in and out, you know the people not trading or spamming local that cause the server load that dictates the cap.

to be fair, there should be some way to know if jita is full other than having to try the gate.
no other gate is closed, let alone with no indication.

Is it Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday? If yes, Jita is full.

People haul stuff to Jita... to *not* sell it? Just to sit there and look at how pretty it is in their cargo bay?

but there are plenty of times on those days that i've got in just fine. so clearly you're wrong.

yeah if you'd like to be relevant to the discussion, that'd be great.

Ok.

The reason that the gates are locked is because lots of people jump in and out them. It's the highest trafficked system in the game.

The reason for that is because of trade.

The trading is the root cause of the gate locks.

That's it. If it bothers you, too damn bad. Go elsewhere, or deal with it like the rest of the autopiloting halfwits.

To further improve upon the admiral's point, use DotLan.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Jita/stats

An intelligent man can look at that, and figure out what Jita's peak times are. I've mentioned before, that if you play EVE Online and you don't use DotLan, then you stand a pretty good chance of having gone full ******.

to be fair, there should be some way to know if jita is full other than having to try the gate.
no other gate is closed, let alone with no indication.

not to mention there should be some kind of queue for the jita gate since having to spam the jump button to get in is ******* ******** in itself.

Jita lockout is an inconsistent mechanic. Someone can be doing all the "right" things to stop themselves getting ganked which works on every gate in the galaxy EXCEPT Jita.

They should put it up on one of those billboards nobody reads.

why does trying to improve the game bother you so much?

Ok.

The reason that the gates are locked is because lots of people jump in and out them. It's the highest trafficked system in the game.

The reason for that is because of trade.

The trading is the root cause of the gate locks.

That's it. If it bothers you, too damn bad. Go elsewhere, or deal with it like the rest of the autopiloting halfwits.

does dotlan tell me if the gate is closed? no.

There's nothing wrong with what's going on.

It's much the same as crying about TiDi. If there were a better solution, it would be there by now. That one, single system already uses 1/4th of their system reinforcement, do you expect more?

All this trying to justify not going elsewhere, truly baffling the lengths to which some will go to be lazy.

i'm well aware that this "solution" is the best we're going to get. i have no issue with the fact that it's closed. i have an issue with the fact that there's no way to determine if you're going to land on the gate and jump, or land on the gate with your thumb up your ass.

if you could tell which was going to happen, the terrible solution we're stuck with would be more tolerable. just because it's the only solution we have doesn't mean we have to put up with it being implemented in a god awful way.

You can get a pretty good idea of whether you will or not with some fairly basic tools.

If you want more than that, get devhacks.

The fact of the matter is, that if you choose Jita, that's a risk you get to deal with. And it certainly is not enough of a problem that we have to make autopiloting halfwits completely invincible because they can't be assed to click the gate button more than once.

but there are plenty of times on those days that i've got in just fine. so clearly you're wrong.

autopiloting has nothing to do with this -.-

you shouldn't even have to click the gate button more than once

Being able to get in isn't the same as it being full. People are always jumping out / logging off, so a little patience and you can get in no matter how busy it is.