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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19603
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:31:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:I don't pay money. I buy plex with ISK. Still money in CCP's pocket, all because of you. In fact, that just makes it worse: you're giving them $180GÇô200 a month to (apparently) abuse you. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10177
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:31:00 -
[302] - Quote
Deep space transports. A slab of armour with engines slapped on the back for transporting both mid volume and low volume luxury items. Perfect for sitting in traffic jams with no fear of being ganked. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4838
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:34:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Yawn. If you are going to try to insult me at least make it witty or interesting.
Where is there insult in the truth? I know the truth burns you like the sun does a Vampire (hey, you should use this to get into the WoD beta 10 years from now lol) but that's a personal problem. And the truth is you are all talk, no action. In another thread I linked your 2009 diatribe about how horrible the game and CCP are and how you were going to biomass (to bad you didn't lol0. You complain about every aspect of the game (local, cloaks, timers,, Battleships being worse than cruisers at...being cruisers lol ect ect) and yet he you stay, giving a company you don't like money to do things you don't want. And not just a little money. According to you, you have 10 accounts. I can't imagine giving someone the equivalent of $150 (U.S.) a month to screw me over (or in your words, to screw over high sec people). It's beyond masochism . It's literally worse than paying a woman to spank your bottom because you were a bad bad boy lol. Yet you look at the world as if it's the thing that's screwed up. I don't pay money. I buy plex with ISK. The rest of the verbal diarrhea above is not worth replying to. If you have something non-personal to add I'll be happy to speak with you. I doubt you can come up with anything though :)
Paying with plex is paying. You are driving the demand for plex, which in turns POURS money into the coffers of a game company you seem to despise for them to do things to the game that you don't like. 10 accounts paid for is 150 bucks a month, what YOU are doing (plexing) is even more than that.
You can imagine the truth is some personal insult all you like (you seem to need such defense mechanisms to shield your ego), but that doesn't change the truth: You complain and complain and complain about CCP and their business practices while you continue to fuel their business by paying for their product. Hell, 10 accounts makes you a super-consumer of CCPs product.
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Motoko Innocentius
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:However I do not like the way CCP treats its high sec customers, with utter contempt In what way are they being treated with contempt? Motoko Innocentius wrote:Jumping through a stargate makes you invulnerable GǪfor a little while and only as long as nothing is happening with your ship. This is quite unlike what's going on when you're waiting on the other side of the same gate. Making people invulnerable just because they can't be arsed to move is a hideously bad idea. If they want to not be potential targets, they should make sure that they're not potential targets. Dock up, cloak up, safe up, and wait for the traffic to clear. Quote:If gates for jita behaved normally the jumper would be transitioned to the jump animation while their ship is left in the system they jumped from and would be invulnerable. GǪand that's exactly what happens.
You are still completely wrong, it doesn't make you invulnerable for a little while, it makes you invulnerable untill you have been accepted in the new system, i've seen cases of over 5 minute jump tunnel waits and during that time the ship has been invulnerable.
What the problem here is, is that you do not start a jump sequence when jumping into a full system, usually in these cases you get stuck in jump animation and get a coutndown for traffic jam, but with jita, this isn't working as it works elsewhere. As such you do not start the jump sequence.
So it boils down to jita gate not starting jump sequence while in all other traffic jam situations this is started, jita is an anomaly. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1265
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:41:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Paying with plex is paying. You are driving the demand for plex, which in turns POURS money into the coffers of a game company you seem to despise for them to do things to the game that you don't like. 10 accounts paid for is 150 bucks a month, what YOU are doing (plexing) is even more than that.
You can imagine the truth is some personal insult all you like (you seem to need such defense mechanisms to shield your ego), but that doesn't change the truth: You complain and complain and complain about CCP and their business practices while you continue to fuel their business by paying for their product. Hell, 10 accounts makes you a super-consumer of CCPs product.
I am just going to go back to the OP to get this back on track.
OP,
Dumb idea is dumb.
/me starts to swing from the chandelier.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Abishai
128
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:44:00 -
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Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is rediculous.
The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1265
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:47:00 -
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Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is rediculous.
I don't know what that last word means.
Abishai wrote:The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected
No.
People who shop during peak shopping hours are going to wait in line at the checkout or they're going to shop elsewhere.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19604
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:48:00 -
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Motoko Innocentius wrote:You are still completely wrong, it doesn't make you invulnerable for a little while, it makes you invulnerable untill you have been accepted in the new system, i've seen cases of over 5 minute jump tunnel waits and during that time the ship has been invulnerable. No. During that time, your ship doesn't exist. You are in limbo GÇö in the process of being transferred from one node to another.
The invulnerability you gain when you jump lasts as long as the jump cloak lasts, no more. The cloak only lasts for a short while.
Quote:What the problem here is, is that you do not start a jump sequence when jumping into a full system, usually in these cases you get stuck in jump animation and get a coutndown for traffic jam, but with jita, this isn't working as it works elsewhere. It works the same in Jita as everywhere else: once you jump, you jump. If you are locked out, you don't jump. There is nothing magical about the Jita gates that make them behave differently than gates elsewhere and the entire jump process is the same.
The problem here is that you think a population cap is the same thing as a traffic advisory. They're not.
Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is rediculous. Good news: there is prior information. Check the map, check local, check dscan, ask around. Don't be lazy and gamble, or you'll have to live with the fact that one potential outcome of gambling is a loss. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10178
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:50:00 -
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Motoko Innocentius wrote:Tippia wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:However I do not like the way CCP treats its high sec customers, with utter contempt In what way are they being treated with contempt? Motoko Innocentius wrote:Jumping through a stargate makes you invulnerable GǪfor a little while and only as long as nothing is happening with your ship. This is quite unlike what's going on when you're waiting on the other side of the same gate. Making people invulnerable just because they can't be arsed to move is a hideously bad idea. If they want to not be potential targets, they should make sure that they're not potential targets. Dock up, cloak up, safe up, and wait for the traffic to clear. Quote:If gates for jita behaved normally the jumper would be transitioned to the jump animation while their ship is left in the system they jumped from and would be invulnerable. GǪand that's exactly what happens. You are still completely wrong, it doesn't make you invulnerable for a little while, it makes you invulnerable untill you have been accepted in the new system, i've seen cases of over 5 minute jump tunnel waits and during that time the ship has been invulnerable. What the problem here is, is that you do not start a jump sequence when jumping into a full system, usually in these cases you get stuck in jump animation and get a coutndown for traffic jam, but with jita, this isn't working as it works elsewhere. As such you do not start the jump sequence. So it boils down to jita gate not starting jump sequence while in all other traffic jam situations this is started, jita is an anomaly.
Thats because jita would forever be in 10% tidi and the node in danger of crashing in a ball of fire on a weekend. Which sounds better to you, working under tidi or waiting at mist a few minutes to Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10178
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Posted - 2014.02.24 17:54:00 -
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Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is ridiculous.
The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected
These options are better than adding invulnerability because they require the user take a differnet course of action rather than protecting them when they make a bad choice.
Warp to a safe 150+ from the gate, is there lots of cargo ships sitting at 0 from the in gate?
If yes then traffic likely, take steps to secure your cargo and join the traffic. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
319
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:07:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is ridiculous.
The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected
These options are better than adding invulnerability because they require the user take a differnet course of action rather than protecting them when they make a bad choice. Warp to a safe 150+ from the gate, is there lots of cargo ships sitting at 0 from the in gate? If yes then traffic likely, take steps to secure your cargo and join the traffic.
Ya because this solves the problem with the gates having to be closed. Stop ignoring the issue and lets talk about solving it. You sound like you should work for CCP.
"You can do this, you can go there, use contracts, wait a couple days! "
When none of those fix the issue. God damn you should be head game developer with that attitude.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19606
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:12:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Ya because this solves the problem with the gates having to be closed. Stop ignoring the issue and lets talk about solving it. * Looks at titleGǪ GǣGetting ganked on a closed Jita gateGǥ. Yeah, it solves that problem quite neatly. * Looks at the post it was in response toGǪ GǣTelling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is ridiculous.Gǥ Yeah, it solves that problem too.
Quote:You can do this, you can go there, use contracts, wait a couple days! All of those get rid of the problem as well.
But since that isn't enough for you, how do you propose to solve the GÇ£problemGÇ¥ that Jita is kept in working order by limiting how many can be in there at once? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Motoko Innocentius
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:15:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:You are still completely wrong, it doesn't make you invulnerable for a little while, it makes you invulnerable untill you have been accepted in the new system, i've seen cases of over 5 minute jump tunnel waits and during that time the ship has been invulnerable. No. During that time, your ship doesn't exist. You are in limbo GÇö in the process of being transferred from one node to another. The invulnerability you gain when you jump lasts as long as the jump cloak lasts, no more. The cloak only lasts for a short while. Quote:What the problem here is, is that you do not start a jump sequence when jumping into a full system, usually in these cases you get stuck in jump animation and get a coutndown for traffic jam, but with jita, this isn't working as it works elsewhere. It works the same in Jita as everywhere else: once you jump, you jump. If you are locked out, you don't jump. There is nothing magical about the Jita gates that make them behave differently than gates elsewhere and the entire jump process is the same. The problem here is that you think a population cap is the same thing as a traffic advisory. They're not. Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is rediculous. Good news: there is prior information. Check the map, check local, check dscan, ask around. Don't be lazy and gamble, or you'll have to live with the fact that one potential outcome of gambling is a loss.
So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Don't talk about something you have no idea about. |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2524
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:But since that isn't enough for you, how do you propose to solve the GÇ£problemGÇ¥ that Jita is kept in working order by limiting how many can be in there at once?
crash the node |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1267
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:18:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:baltec1 wrote:Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is ridiculous.
The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected
These options are better than adding invulnerability because they require the user take a differnet course of action rather than protecting them when they make a bad choice. Warp to a safe 150+ from the gate, is there lots of cargo ships sitting at 0 from the in gate? If yes then traffic likely, take steps to secure your cargo and join the traffic. Ya because this solves the problem with the gates having to be closed. Stop ignoring the issue and lets talk about solving it. You sound like you should work for CCP. "You can do this, you can go there, use contracts, wait a couple days! " When none of those fix the issue. God damn you should be head game developer with that attitude.
Mario, the problem is that no issue has been legitimately articulated here. The OP got ganked in an Anathema and in his pod in Perimeter sitting on the Jita gate during the height of population cap in Jita.
Several people have offered reasonable options for the OP that are all well within his ability to use but all of those options have been met with vitriol because CCP should fix the stupid in people who get ganked in an Anathema and their pod on a gate.
I fail to see how Baltec's suggestion is anything more or less than a humble offer of assistance for this poor OP who lost his Anathema and his pod on the gate to Jita in Perimeter at the height of the population cap in Jita.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19607
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:21:00 -
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Motoko Innocentius wrote:So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Yes I have. That (among many other reasons) is why I know to separate a cap from a traffic advisory.
The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Frostys Virpio
IRS Fraud
1012
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:24:00 -
[317] - Quote
Mario Putzo wrote:baltec1 wrote:Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is ridiculous.
The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected
These options are better than adding invulnerability because they require the user take a differnet course of action rather than protecting them when they make a bad choice. Warp to a safe 150+ from the gate, is there lots of cargo ships sitting at 0 from the in gate? If yes then traffic likely, take steps to secure your cargo and join the traffic. Ya because this solves the problem with the gates having to be closed. Stop ignoring the issue and lets talk about solving it. You sound like you should work for CCP. "You can do this, you can go there, use contracts, wait a couple days! " When none of those fix the issue. God damn you should be head game developer with that attitude.
Sell/buy your stuff elsewhere. When enough people start doing this, the Jita gates will unclog. Most system around Jita probably have a caldari navy station so your standings are still good to lower taxes. Perimeter definately does and I'm too lazy to check the rest but then again, I play the "click enter click enter click enter click enter click enter" games when going to jita on prime time and see no problem with it.
Gate access PvP best PvP. |

Motoko Innocentius
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:26:00 -
[318] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Yes I have. That (among many other reasons) is why I know to separate a cap from a traffic advisory. The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates.
Well taking your answers, it seems rather clear you do not know nor have you ever tested these. What remains is that jita gate is closed in a different way than other gates and that just happens to be a fact. If you don't beliave this you can a) test different gates in different circumstances b) petition and ask ccp. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1269
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates.
Though it would be funny if they had wizard hats on them.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10179
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:28:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:baltec1 wrote:Abishai wrote:Telling someone not to jump to a "closed" gate without giving them a piror indication that it is closed is ridiculous.
The user should receive a message when a gate on their planned route is congested by either:
1) Displaying the message when the route is set 2) Displaying the message when you reach the system 3) Adding a confirmation when initiating warp to the gate saying a delay is expected
These options are better than adding invulnerability because they require the user take a differnet course of action rather than protecting them when they make a bad choice. Warp to a safe 150+ from the gate, is there lots of cargo ships sitting at 0 from the in gate? If yes then traffic likely, take steps to secure your cargo and join the traffic. Ya because this solves the problem with the gates having to be closed. Stop ignoring the issue and lets talk about solving it. You sound like you should work for CCP. "You can do this, you can go there, use contracts, wait a couple days! " When none of those fix the issue. God damn you should be head game developer with that attitude.
The toys CCP run EVE on are the best in the gaming industry, they can do nothing about this.
We however can do something. If you refuse to use any of the tools available to us then you will suffer from your own stupidity. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1269
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:29:00 -
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Motoko Innocentius wrote:Tippia wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Yes I have. That (among many other reasons) is why I know to separate a cap from a traffic advisory. The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates. Well taking your answers, it seems rather clear you do not know nor have you ever tested these. What remains is that jita gate is closed in a different way than other gates and that just happens to be a fact. If you don't beliave this you can a) test different gates in different circumstances b) petition and ask ccp.
I would be happy to test another gate. Just put 2175 people in the system I am trying to jump into and let's see what the gate does.
No need to petition. CCP addressed the issue here. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2503
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:30:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Tippia wrote:But since that isn't enough for you, how do you propose to solve the GÇ£problemGÇ¥ that Jita is kept in working order by limiting how many can be in there at once?  crash the node
One can only wish. Give the people what they want: unfettered access to Jita. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19607
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:31:00 -
[323] - Quote
Motoko Innocentius wrote:Well taking your answers, it seems rather clear you do not know nor have you ever tested these. That's because you're confusing two completely separate mechanics.
Quote:What remains is that jita gate is closed in a different way than other gates GǪwhich explains why the behaviour isn't (nor should be) the same: because a closed gate is not a traffic-advisory gate. This has nothing to do withe Jita but with how your transition between systems is handled. The Jita gates are not special or magical.
You're effectively saying that, just because you're invulnerable when you're being transitioned between gates, you should be invulnerable when you aren't. The reason you're invulnerable when you're being transitioned is because technically, you're no longer in the system. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Motoko Innocentius
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:34:00 -
[324] - Quote
Kimmi Chan wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:Tippia wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Yes I have. That (among many other reasons) is why I know to separate a cap from a traffic advisory. The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates. Well taking your answers, it seems rather clear you do not know nor have you ever tested these. What remains is that jita gate is closed in a different way than other gates and that just happens to be a fact. If you don't beliave this you can a) test different gates in different circumstances b) petition and ask ccp. I would be happy to test another gate. Just put 2175 people in the system I am trying to jump into and let's see what the gate does. No need to petition. CCP addressed the issue here.
How does this relate to anythign in this topic ? :O
We are talking about how the jita cap and gate behaviour are different from the norm and as such it should be made to work like the others, ie when you jump, you get notification and go into jump tunnel.
ps: ask test for what happens when jumping into system with 2175 people already in. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1244
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:37:00 -
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... delete... this thread has too much traffic.. the gates to it should be closed. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19607
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:38:00 -
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Motoko Innocentius wrote:How does this relate to anythign in this topic ? :O
We are talking about how the jita cap and gate behaviour are different from the norm GǪand he's pointing out that it's a very normal behaviour for a gate to a poplocked system and that there's nothing special about the Jita gates. If you can go and find another gate to a locked system, this will be very easy to show.
Quote:ps: ask test for what happens when jumping into system with 2175 people already in. Is it a poplocked system or not?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1270
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:42:00 -
[327] - Quote
Motoko Innocentius wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:Tippia wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Yes I have. That (among many other reasons) is why I know to separate a cap from a traffic advisory. The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates. Well taking your answers, it seems rather clear you do not know nor have you ever tested these. What remains is that jita gate is closed in a different way than other gates and that just happens to be a fact. If you don't beliave this you can a) test different gates in different circumstances b) petition and ask ccp. I would be happy to test another gate. Just put 2175 people in the system I am trying to jump into and let's see what the gate does. No need to petition. CCP addressed the issue here. How does this relate to anythign in this topic ? :O We are talking about how the jita cap and gate behaviour are different from the norm and as such it should be made to work like the others, ie when you jump, you get notification and go into jump tunnel. ps: ask test for what happens when jumping into system with 2175 people already in.
Because the comments of CCP Explorer are precisely relevant to the population cap and the behavior of the gates. If you can't draw that line, I can't help you.
You want CCP to fix stupid people who don't understand what Jita on the weekends means. CCP is not qualified to fix stupid people.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2503
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:44:00 -
[328] - Quote
Motoko Innocentius wrote:
We are talking about how the jita cap and gate behaviour are different from the norm and as such it should be made to work like the others, ie when you jump, you get notification and go into jump tunnel.
Jita gates are not special gates. Any gate to any system in EVE that is capped and locked will display the exact message that a Jita gate does when it is capped and locked. CCP has decided that Jita will remain capped due to the average daily population of the system, so as to ensure usability and enjoyment. This is generally unnecessary for other systems, since most of them do not have several thousand lazy, entitled prats attempting to enter them on a daily basis. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10181
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:48:00 -
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Motoko Innocentius wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:Tippia wrote:Motoko Innocentius wrote:So you haven't actually ever tested or tried this ? Yes I have. That (among many other reasons) is why I know to separate a cap from a traffic advisory. The fact remains: Jita gates are not magically different than any other gates. Well taking your answers, it seems rather clear you do not know nor have you ever tested these. What remains is that jita gate is closed in a different way than other gates and that just happens to be a fact. If you don't beliave this you can a) test different gates in different circumstances b) petition and ask ccp. I would be happy to test another gate. Just put 2175 people in the system I am trying to jump into and let's see what the gate does. No need to petition. CCP addressed the issue here. How does this relate to anythign in this topic ? :O We are talking about how the jita cap and gate behaviour are different from the norm and as such it should be made to work like the others, ie when you jump, you get notification and go into jump tunnel. ps: ask test for what happens when jumping into system with 2175 people already in.
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Domanique Altares
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:48:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote: You want CCP to fix stupid people who don't understand what Jita on the weekends means. CCP is not qualified to fix stupid people.
You just don't understand, Kimmi. These people spent all week mining free minerals, cranking out products on unresearched BPOs, and/or ratting and missioning it up. Now it's the weekend, and it's time to party down by hauling all that **** to Jita and selling it to horribly low buy orders.
Why can't you understand that they NEED to be able to do this? It's a bit too much to expect a man to d-scan or ask in local if the Jita gate is on lockdown when he's just spent a back breaking week orbiting asteroids to the soothing background murmur of Netflix. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
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