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Dave Stark
4410
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:53:00 -
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is this thread really still going? and with the same posters? oh dear... |

Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:53:00 -
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Pretty sure taxis in downtown Cairo don't have a "cloak of don't let this traffic effect my business" they can turn to.... |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19609
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:54:00 -
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Ralen Zateki wrote:Pretty sure taxis in downtown Cairo don't have a "cloak of don't let this traffic effect my business" they can turn to.... You know, I'd tip more than 15% for thatGǪ  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1277
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:57:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote: You want CCP to fix stupid people who don't understand what Jita on the weekends means. CCP is not qualified to fix stupid people.
You just don't understand, Kimmi. These people spent all week mining free minerals, cranking out products on unresearched BPOs, and/or ratting and missioning it up. Now it's the weekend, and it's time to party down by hauling all that **** to Jita and selling it to horribly low buy orders. Why can't you understand that they NEED to be able to do this? It's a bit too much to expect a man to d-scan or ask in local if the Jita gate is on lockdown when he's just spent a back breaking week orbiting asteroids to the soothing background murmur of Netflix.
I did some missioning over the weekend. Melted all the loot. I could courier it to Jita or just put up Sell Orders in my system and make more ISK by not carrying it to the suckfest that is Jita.
I queued up some ME research in an NPC station. Amazingly, the queues outside of The Forge are considerably less.
I warped around in a BR looking for a moon to set up a POS on. Found a lot of anchored but offline Towers which I've always found mildly ********. Haven't decided whether to dec the corp myself or recruit a Merc Corp to get it done for me.
I also trained that worthless ***** of an alt of mine up to a Hyperion (though that dumb Gallente dipshit can't fit any Large Hybrids to it yet so it's sitting in the station without any guns on it. )
Can't remember having any issues at all this weekend. I did get a bit of a headache Saturday afternoon but I think that is more related to my high blood pressure rather than anything actually game related and after a nice nap I was feeling right as rain.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2507
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:09:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:
Highly motivated weekend redacted.
Obvious lies. No one in EVE has such levels of motivation. Perhaps you're simply mistaken, and your BR was autopiloting to all those moons while you were taking your nap? Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2507
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:10:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote: and with the same posters?
It wouldn't be a party if you weren't still here, Dave. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1278
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:12:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:
Highly motivated weekend redacted.
Obvious lies. No one in EVE has such levels of motivation. Perhaps you're simply mistaken, and your BR was autopiloting to all those moons while you were taking your nap?
I'm motivated by the fact that if I don't do stuff, stuff doesn't get done.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

Batelle
HOMELE55
1889
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: Warp to a safe 150+ from the gate, is there lots of cargo ships sitting at 0 from the in gate?
If yes then traffic likely, take steps to secure your cargo and join the traffic.
You can't ask people in hisec to use tacticals, that would be just too much. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2524
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:03:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Tippia wrote:But since that isn't enough for you, how do you propose to solve the GÇ£problemGÇ¥ that Jita is kept in working order by limiting how many can be in there at once?  crash the node One can only wish. Give the people what they want: unfettered access to Jita. that's what i said crash the node |

Marsha Mallow
69
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:10:00 -
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I don't get why a handful of people need to repeat themselves over and over. OK, we get that you don't agree being locked out of Jita is a problem on a weekend. You don't need to hunch over GD retorting to every single poster, ramming the point home.
Just add: "Stop whining / HTFU / Working as intended / It's all your own fault" to your sig and post on every page of GD without reading it or considering issues in context. Think how many keystrokes it would save.
Having said that, remarks like this are awesome, keep going!
Kimmi Chan wrote:I have 0 issues with this game. - |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19612
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:20:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:I don't get why a handful of people need to repeat themselves over and over. Largely, it's because a handful of people keep repeating the same incoherent and counterfactual nonsense over and over, and are in dire need of being corrected. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
322
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:I don't get why a handful of people need to repeat themselves over and over. Largely, it's because a handful of people keep repeating the same incoherent and counterfactual nonsense over and over, and are in dire need of being corrected.
Actually it is a problem. Otherwise there wouldn't be 2 threads talking about the same thing.
Sorry you don't see the idiocy in saying
"Use Contracts!" "Go to a different trade hub" "Wait until midweek!"
None of those fix the issue with Jita being shut down.
- Its the only system that gets capped Hey guys look we can put 4K dudes in a fight but can't handle 2500 folks trying to buy and sell ****.
- there is no statement of the gates being closed Oh your 6B isk ship is now getting bumped on the Jita gate in New Caldari and about to get ganked because there is no way to know whether gates work or not unless you try them. Suck it up!
We have a problem, instead of fixing it we are going to tell you how to bury it under the rug! ~CCP 2006-Present. |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
372

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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:26:00 -
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Personal attack post has been removed. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19612
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Posted - 2014.02.24 20:31:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Actually it is a problem. Otherwise there wouldn't be 2 threads talking about the same thing. Yes, there indeed is a problem: people either refuse to use or aren't aware of the multiple tools at their disposal. That's an education problem, though, not a game problem.
Quote:"Use Contracts!" "Go to a different trade hub" "Wait until midweek!"
None of those fix the issue with Jita being shut down. Jita is not shut down, so that issue is fixed by virtue of not existing to begin with. The suggestions listed, on the other hand, all handily solve the problem of wanting to do business in Jita and not being allowed in on the first try during peak hours.
Quote:Its the only system that gets capped GǪbecause, as mentioned on multiple occasions, it's a system where a cap doesn't break anything.
Quote:there is no statement of the gates being closed GǪexcept for the one every gets so upset over. If you don't want to bother with that one, though, there are plenty of sources of information that will indicate whether or not you can get in should you absolutely, unquestionably need to (which you rarely do). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10182
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Posted - 2014.02.25 01:46:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Tippia wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:I don't get why a handful of people need to repeat themselves over and over. Largely, it's because a handful of people keep repeating the same incoherent and counterfactual nonsense over and over, and are in dire need of being corrected. Actually it is a problem. Otherwise there wouldn't be 2 threads talking about the same thing. Sorry you don't see the idiocy in saying "Use Contracts!" "Go to a different trade hub" "Wait until midweek!" None of those fix the issue with Jita being shut down. - Its the only system that gets capped Hey guys look we can put 4K dudes in a fight but can't handle 2500 folks trying to buy and sell ****. - there is no statement of the gates being closed Oh your 6B isk ship is now getting bumped on the Jita gate in New Caldari and about to get ganked because there is no way to know whether gates work or not unless you try them. Suck it up! We have a problem, instead of fixing it we are going to tell you how to bury it under the rug! ~CCP 2006-Present.
Jita is not shut down, it tends to be 20-30 seconds before you can get in and its entire market can be accessed outside of the system. We have more than enough tools to get around the jita traffic jams and not be ganked. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
796
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Posted - 2014.02.25 02:51:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:
- there is no statement of the gates being closed Oh your 6B isk ship is now getting bumped on the Jita gate in New Caldari and about to get ganked because there is no way to know whether gates work or not unless you try them. Suck it up!
IMO JF pilots are a total non issue, they literally should be good enough, and know the mechanics well enough (gates, docking, cyno, undocking), that this should not be a problem for them, and they should have enough resources at hand to be able to work around not being able to get the JF into jita safely, and honestly a 6b corp asset, could really be scouted and escorted by a couple of corp members if its somehow a time critical load (which good planning should usually avoid that).
In my case, I'd just shove partial loads into the alts orca mwd/cloak my way around to muarasi and be done with it - and yes I expect that everyone with a 6b ship has trustables on tap to help, or alt accounts with the right ships to change strategies when appropriate.
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Tajic Kaundur
House Dimir
15
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Posted - 2014.02.25 03:15:00 -
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Wait, what are you doing to even have this be a problem?
I can get into Jita during peak hours within 10 seconds, every single time. Click, hit enter, repeat as fast as you possibly can, you get in pretty much instantly.
I don't get it. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1305
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Posted - 2014.02.25 10:56:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:ap?
3. Remove all missions, mining, pvp in Jita. There is absolutely no reason for people to be pvp'ing or otherwise doing anything in Jita except trading. They can **** off and go elswhere, there are thousands and thousands of systems in EVE. If you must camp people in Jita, you can do so on the gates in the surrounding systems.
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From all the idiotic statements I have seen here that is the most stupid one by fAr.
You know that Jita is a HUGE PVP hub as well? Its the most dangerous system in eve most of the days?
Why your focus in jita shoudl be more important than of the people that are playing exactly what this game was made for?
How about I proposed trading to be banned from jita instead? Its equaly valid.. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
175
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Posted - 2014.02.25 12:15:00 -
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I think CFC should blob Jita again.
Should clear it for a few days after that. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
98
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Posted - 2014.02.25 12:27:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:...
Have a pop up telling you Jita is full. Did I get that right?
So how often do you want the servers to query the database on the population in Jita as it relates to the population cap to know whether to display your beloved pop up or not? Let's just throw some infrastructure resources at that so Dave Stark can feel good about Jita.
Should we have this for every system or just Jita? We might as well have separate queries per tick for every system just so some poor dipshit freighter pilot doesn't get ganked on a gate outside a heavily trafficked system, right?
Doesn't the map provide this 'intel' already? Haven't logged into the game for over a year now, might have changed..  But if it does it shouldn't strain any resources.
And putting some little script into the client that tells you about the expected queue time of the gate you're heading towards might be worthy as a 'little thing'.
Hey, even my navi has got this ability to tell me which of the roads are jammed and warns me/leads me around and we're just in the 21st century.. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19617
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Posted - 2014.02.25 12:36:00 -
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Tres Farmer wrote:Doesn't the map provide this 'intel' already? Yes, but apparently not in enough detail to satisfy the one having problems. Increasing the details to the level they want means increasing the load pretty severely (if nothing else because they keep moving the goalposts every time something they claim isn't available turns out to be available). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2781
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Posted - 2014.02.25 12:56:00 -
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Tres Farmer wrote:
Hey, even my navi has got this ability to tell me which of the roads are jammed and warns me/leads me around and we're just in the 21st century..
And ammo selectors exist, yet it still takes ten seconds to change which kind of bullet goes into my Jaguar's guns.
Oh, and real life comparisons to space technology in a different freaking galaxy are still invalid. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
176
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Posted - 2014.02.25 12:57:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tres Farmer wrote:
Hey, even my navi has got this ability to tell me which of the roads are jammed and warns me/leads me around and we're just in the 21st century..
And ammo selectors exist, yet it still takes ten seconds to change which kind of bullet goes into my Jaguar's guns. Oh, and real life comparisons to space technology in a different freaking galaxy are still invalid.
Dude, you drive a Jaguar with guns on it? Awesome! I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2781
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:00:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tres Farmer wrote:
Hey, even my navi has got this ability to tell me which of the roads are jammed and warns me/leads me around and we're just in the 21st century..
And ammo selectors exist, yet it still takes ten seconds to change which kind of bullet goes into my Jaguar's guns. Oh, and real life comparisons to space technology in a different freaking galaxy are still invalid. Dude, you drive a Jaguar with guns on it? Awesome!
Ah, context sensitive information. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Luwc
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:06:00 -
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>Less AFK >More paying attention >Not getting ganked on Jita gate >Profit.
simple as that. |

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
99
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Posted - 2014.02.25 13:38:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tres Farmer wrote:
Hey, even my navi has got this ability to tell me which of the roads are jammed and warns me/leads me around and we're just in the 21st century..
And ammo selectors exist, yet it still takes ten seconds to change which kind of bullet goes into my Jaguar's guns.
Should have gotten an Aston Martin then :p
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Oh, and real life comparisons to space technology in a different freaking galaxy are still invalid.
But it's still 'one universe', right? :p
@Tippia ..gotcha, was just offering help and giving the OP a goal to get this put up into one of those little things wish lists the Devs look at some times, or did that stop?
Anyhow, 3 posts within 12 hours on Eve-O is enough for this week. Got not enough time for this.. have fun dudes. |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
487
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Posted - 2014.02.25 14:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Lors Dornick wrote:Simple solution, don't go to Jita during weekend afternoon/evening, since everyone and their dog knows that there'll be a queue.
"don't play the game you're paying to play!" That's a pretty silly suggestion. Why are you making it? Because he makes a valid point. Others suggest to dock up or some other silly BS to avoid being ganked for a poor game mechanic outside their control so you guys can keep on taking advantage of those caught by it.
You shouldnGÇÖt have to not play the game you pay for because your market place is full.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4874
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Posted - 2014.02.25 14:40:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
You shouldnGÇÖt have to not play the game you pay for because your market place is full.
Yes you should, because if that market place is full, that's your que to go someplace else and market. I recently Red Frog'd the stuff I had in Jita to Hek (Rens is better, but Hek is next where I keep my carrier and closer to my Sisters agent) because of not being able to get in there on the weekends. It wasn't much stuff but is was skill books and such for 2 toons I'm training for low sec exploration.
Paying for the game doesn't mean anything, everyone does that. The reality is Jita can't hold every one and function correctly at the same time, so the responsible thing for an EVE player to do is adjust to that reality and move around (or do things remotely via couriers and contracts). |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19617
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Posted - 2014.02.25 15:25:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Because he makes a valid point. Not really, no. He's making a strawman argument to cover for the fact that he can't be arsed with solving his own problems even though the game has provided him with many many mechanisms to do just that. Instead, he just throws up his hands and gives up and start get hostile when told that it's his own fault for choosing to not do anything.
Quote:Others suggest to dock up or some other silly BS to avoid being ganked for a poor game mechanic outside their control so you guys can keep on taking advantage of those caught by it. Not only is it entirely in his control, taking precautions to get ganked is something that should be second nature if you play EVE. In this case, it is so trivially easy to do that it beggars belief that some people so wilfully skip over it and the only thing more mind-boggling is that they try to blame other people for their own decisions.
There is absolutely no reason why the game should protect him from his own explicit decision to refuse to do so himself.
Quote:You shouldnGÇÖt have to not play the game you pay for because your market place is full. Good news: you can play the game regardless. Claiming otherwise is idiotic and ignorant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
487
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Because he makes a valid point. Not really, no. He's making a strawman argument to cover for the fact that he can't be arsed with solving his own problems even though the game has provided him with many many mechanisms to do just that. Instead, he just throws up his hands and gives up and start get hostile when told that it's his own fault for choosing to not do anything. Quote:Others suggest to dock up or some other silly BS to avoid being ganked for a poor game mechanic outside their control so you guys can keep on taking advantage of those caught by it. Not only is it entirely in his control, taking precautions to get ganked is something that should be second nature if you play EVE. In this case, it is so trivially easy to do that it beggars belief that some people so wilfully skip over it and the only thing more mind-boggling is that they try to blame other people for their own decisions. There is absolutely no reason why the game should protect him from his own explicit decision to refuse to do so himself. Quote:You shouldnGÇÖt have to not play the game you pay for because your market place is full. Good news: you can play the game regardless. Claiming otherwise is idiotic and ignorant.
A zone being closed because of a node being over populated is not within his, your or my control. Its no different than loosing your ship when a node crashes in the big fights. Should people avoid those also? Using your silly logic the answer would be yes. |
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