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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:15:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Is there a difference between dribbling on the chin and smearing it? Semantics, we all know what that represents. Cling to whatever you need shred you need to in order to make yourself feel better about who you associate with.
Sure there is. Dribbling it on the chin is the actual phrase used in the recording.
Smearing it implies something significantly different than that.
There is enough half-truths and complete fabrications in this thread already, If we have facts to use, why not use them.
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One Eyed Runner
State War Academy
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:15:00 -
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[quote=Abon][quote=Ripard Teg]
Again, this isn't about the scams. Scams are fine. This is about sick, reprehensible behavior and psychological harassment of CCP's customers. CCP has the right to protect their customers and decide what is and what is not acceptable behavior in New Eden. CCP: please make it clear for EVE's second decade that this kind of thing is simply unacceptable in our community.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
643
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:16:00 -
[4173] - Quote
and yet nothing that violates the EULA or any national in any country I can think of.
So whats your point? He doesn't force anyone to do anything. They do it of their own free will in order to gain fake wealth in a video game.
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
998
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:17:00 -
[4174] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Xuixien wrote:Yeah sorry still not seeing it. Maybe you're posting this to get mindless, non-critical thinking sheeple to bandwagon. But for me you're gonna need more. I need a recording with Erotica 1's voice personally asking the contestant or an admission " I did ___" from Erotica 1. So far all you have is "we almost got" - that doesn't mean Ero actually participated if you understand colloquial speech. Also wasn't the claim "Erotica 1 made a guy spread mayo" - now from his own post it was an almost? It just falls apart. You're gonna have to really dig on this one. Can you refer me to your personal trainer? They seem to do a fantastic job, given how far you can reach.
Oh, projecting now? Like a movie theater. :)
Erotica 1 said there were never any mayo pics (there weren't, unless you can find them maybe?) and that he never asked for any (no clear evidence that he himself personally did).
Supposedly there's a recoding of what actually happened. But you're not submitting that, just random forum clippings meant to insinuate.
The only one reaching here is you... reaching deep to grasp for random straws on forums.
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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3217
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:18:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Nope, cuz none of what she posted meets the criterion of what I'm looking for. But feel free to claim victory! Like a pigeon playing chess. I think I read something about that one time. ;)
A sycophantic hanger-on such as yourself wouldn't be convinced by a decree straight from God. But that's okay, it's not provided for your benefit anyway.
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Drone 16
Law Dogz
95
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:18:00 -
[4176] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:Drone 16 wrote:Xuixien wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Drone 16 wrote:You can listen to the audio. Luminous Spirit posted it a while back. He asks for his "contestant" to smear mayo on himself and send him a picture of it. Its toward the end. At the 46 min 17 sec mark the victim was asked to put mayo in his mouth and dribble some down his chin. There was no request to smear mayo on himself in that particular recording that I heard. Not approving of it (I've made my strong thoughts on the whole mayo and photos issue clear elsewhere) but where facts can be used we should probably try to use them. Oh. I guess that's why he said "go listen to the audio yourself" and not "sure, I'm an honest man who would never lie or misrepresent facts, here's the link ____". Is there a difference between dribbling on the chin and smearing it? Semantics, we all know what that represents. Cling to whatever you need shred you need to in order to make yourself feel better about who you associate with. Well. I'm not sure. Is there a semantic difference between someone's bare chest and someone's chin? Is there a semantic difference between a name, and random dribblings? I'm not quite sure. Maybe these are questions you can answer for me?
If you can find the word "chest" in my post you will have won the bonus round and as such will get the choice to either smear OR rub mayo on yourself for our viewing pleasure. Find it fast my generous offer will only remain for so long. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
998
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:20:00 -
[4177] - Quote
Mario Putzo wrote:So whats your point? He doesn't force anyone to do anything. They do it of their own free will in order to gain wealth in a video game.
There is no point. She's trying to make insinuations, but doing a very poor job at it, because her post doesn't bear 5 seconds of critical thinking (well, not five seconds of my critical thinking... I'm sure the masses of sheeple will buy it hook line and sinker, which is what she's betting on. She will now resort to personal attacks in an attempt to discredit me, most likely).
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
998
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:22:00 -
[4178] - Quote
mynnna wrote:
A sycophantic hanger-on such as yourself wouldn't be convinced by a decree straight from God. But that's okay, it's not provided for your benefit anyway.
Ah, there's those personal attacks I was waiting for - and completely abandoning the subject of the debate.
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Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters
Sky Syndicate
4584
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:24:00 -
[4179] - Quote
Welp, guess I'll make serious post.
This is an awesome thread, actually. Not so long ago in EVE if someone made a similar thread, or perhaps got upset over being trolled/scammed/bullied they would very quickly be laughed out of the subforum, locks applied soon after. This thread has shown that EVE's community has evolved somewhat since then. Interestingly though, so has the real world's attitude ...
Genseric Tollaris wrote:If laws had actually been broken this thread would probably not be here.
This is a relevant point, especially in relation to "cyber bullying" and what constitutes it.
Genseric is right, there are no such laws to prohibit what took place in this scenario. But ... that is rapidly changing, all across the world.
Does one need to be in a disadvantaged position to qualify as being "bullied"? The answer is no. Even an employer, bullied by an employee, can qualify as being bullied despite the fact he could reprimand or even fire his bully at a moment's notice. At least where I'm from (Australia) this is quite clearly spelled out in things such as Occupational Health & Safety legislation. Your position, and any actions you could have taken to end the bullying, are irrelevant.
Similarly online - Does one need to be "trapped" in a situation to qualify as being bullied? The answer is actually ... no. For example right now where I live there is legislation before parliament called "Chloe's Law", that will most likely be passed very soon and become actual law in our state. Similar moves are being looked at by other states across the country. Now while Chloe's situation is very different to the EVE situation we're talking about here, the upshot of it is that in places like social media (and yes, even games) it makes no difference that you can deactivate your facebook, block bullies, or simply turn off your game. The pending laws will not pay any credence to that at all. Whether we like it, or not.
In the real world our communities at large don't approve of this kind of behavior when they hear of people getting hurt online, despite it often being in a very arguable context like in this thread. Whether we like it or not communities all across the world are pressuring their politicians to implement legislation that helps prevent people being trolled, scammed or bullied online in almost any form.
Imagine for a moment if the victim in this case logged off so upset that he did something stupid like take his own life. Do you really think the community at large in the real world, who've never played EVE, would agree with the posters here who say this conduct by Erotica1 is acceptable?  Of course they wouldn't, and people would jump up and down demanding change, legislation, and action against CCP.
So our world is changing, it's laws are evolving, both online and off. The internet is still in it's adolescence.There will come a time in the near future where this kind of thing is indeed against some law, somewhere. Until that time comes CCP can either bask in the lawless cyber-freedom, or they can pre-empt such laws and start making some changes.
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1001
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:25:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:
If you can find the word "chest" in my post you will have won the bonus round and as such will get the choice to either smear OR rub mayo on yourself for our viewing pleasure. Find it fast my generous offer will only remain for so long.
Oh I see, the issue is that you don't know the whole story. That's not surprising. I must admit I also made an error - in assuming you did. :(
The story typically goes that the contestant was asked, by Erotica 1, to smear mayonnaise on his chest (or write his name in mayonnaise on his chest - there's different versions). So when you said "smear mayonnaise on himself" I thought you were referring to his chest.
My mistake. In the future I will not assume you know what you're talking about.
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Simyaldee
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology
Heiian Conglomerate
69
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:26:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:mynnna wrote:
A sycophantic hanger-on such as yourself wouldn't be convinced by a decree straight from God. But that's okay, it's not provided for your benefit anyway.
Ah, there's those personal attacks I was waiting for - and completely abandoning the subject of the debate.
And yet calling anyone who might believe Mynna's post "mindless sheeple" and dismissing any evidence presented by Mynna "Cuz Goon" Aren't personal attacks?
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
648
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:26:00 -
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mynnna wrote:
A sycophantic hanger-on such as yourself wouldn't be convinced by a decree straight from God. But that's okay, it's not provided for your benefit anyway.
You seem pretty sure that Erotica 1 is in the wrong to the point of being banned,.
Do you have Digi on the case by chance? |
Genseric Tollaris
SniggWaffe
WAFFLES.
147
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:27:00 -
[4183] - Quote
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:dexington wrote: Keep supporting racism bro, you'll get it one day. I don't have a big problem with casual racism, but you're here pretending you do, and if you had integrity, you'd be compelled to drop your corp (and certainly harbor no delusion of one day being in PL). In other words, spare us the holier-than-thou routine.
You made the mistake of taking my objections to the racism too seriously, a lot of this thread is trolling after all. Though that wasn't really casual racism in the recording, that was spoken in anger which imho shows you the real person. I haven't gotten around to dropping corp yet and I don't want into PL anymore, so way ahead of you there.
Was going to put this in another post but I'll put it here. When I was growing up me and my friends who varied by the colour of our skin, socio economic background, family etc, would do worse to each other IRL then any of the weak crap in this thread. We'd throw everything from racial abuse to punches at each other and we were best friends having a laugh. And people would get hurt, and if they whined they'd get laughed at for being a *****. And then everyone got over it. A lot of the disagreement in this thread would come down to differences in culture and upbringing. So that's my perspective on it, and if the majority think what Ero does is to much then so be it.
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1001
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:29:00 -
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Simyaldee wrote:Xuixien wrote:mynnna wrote:
A sycophantic hanger-on such as yourself wouldn't be convinced by a decree straight from God. But that's okay, it's not provided for your benefit anyway.
Ah, there's those personal attacks I was waiting for - and completely abandoning the subject of the debate. And yet calling anyone who might believe Mynna's post "mindless sheeple" and dismissing any evidence presented by Mynna "Cuz Goon" Aren't personal attacks?
There's a different between making personal attacks, and resorting to personal attacks.
As you can see, mynna completely abandoned the discussion we were having, and chose to only write a personal attack, ie, resorting too.
Pointing out that she was posting for the masses, who might not critically think about the material being presented... is not a baseless personal attack, nor does the language I presented it in invalidate my statement. Calling them "mindless sheeple" does not change the actual point.
You see the differences? I can explain it more if you need.
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1001
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:31:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:mynnna wrote:
A sycophantic hanger-on such as yourself wouldn't be convinced by a decree straight from God. But that's okay, it's not provided for your benefit anyway.
You seem pretty sure that Erotica 1 is in the wrong to the point of being banned,. Do you have Digi on the case by chance?
No dude, Erotica 1 totally asked a contestant to spread mayonnaise on himself. The contestant then went and did this! And the pictures were released.
mynna has proof. Check out some of the links she posted to unrelated things said on the Goon forums. That totally seals Erotica 1's fate.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
648
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:31:00 -
[4186] - Quote
My prediction
No one is banned
Nothing changes
Goons still suck
CCP still hates LS. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
887
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:34:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:My prediction
No one is banned
Nothing changes
Goons still suck
CCP still hates LS.
Posting in a stealth "buff lowsec" thread.
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1001
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:35:00 -
[4188] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:My prediction
No one is banned
Nothing changes
Goons still suck
CCP still hates LS. Posting in a stealth "buff lowsec" thread.
Make LowSec safer please. There's to many pirates, no one goes there, ever. I want to mine Hedbergite in peace like I can Kernite in HiSec.
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Drone 16
Law Dogz
95
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:36:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Drone 16 wrote:
If you can find the word "chest" in my post you will have won the bonus round and as such will get the choice to either smear OR rub mayo on yourself for our viewing pleasure. Find it fast my generous offer will only remain for so long.
Oh I see, the issue is that you don't know the whole story. That's not surprising. I must admit I also made an error - in assuming you did. :( The story typically goes that the contestant was asked, by Erotica 1, to smear mayonnaise on his chest (or write his name in mayonnaise on his chest - there's different versions). So when you said "smear mayonnaise on himself" I thought you were referring to his chest. My mistake. In the future I will not assume you know what you're talking about.
Hmmm..as I understand it the "story" goes he asked someone to write his name in PEANUT BUTTER. So my advice would be that as long as you are into assuming, just assume that you don't know what you are talking about at the same time you assume the same for me.
Unfortunately, you did lose that bonus round, no mayo for you. BUT! In honor of our long standing friendship I will allow you to make it up to me, now I believe we were discussing peanut butter.... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
892
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:37:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Make LowSec safer please. There's to many pirates, no one goes there, ever. I want to mine Hedbergite in peace like I can Kernite in HiSec.
Lowsec will become the new highsec.
After highsec is made 100% safe, Concord will start to spread out.
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Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
47
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:38:00 -
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Its pretty simple IMO.
If Erotica 1's activities result in obvious dipshits like Sohkar removing themselves from the game - thats a win for EVE.
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Anslo
Scope Works
4583
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:38:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Xuixien wrote:Make LowSec safer please. There's to many pirates, no one goes there, ever. I want to mine Hedbergite in peace like I can Kernite in HiSec. Lowsec will become the new highsec. After highsec is made 100% safe, Concord will start to spread out.
How is any of this relevant to a discussion about the **** poor ethics of someone? Stop making it about something it isn't.
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Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1006
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:38:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Xuixien wrote:Drone 16 wrote:
If you can find the word "chest" in my post you will have won the bonus round and as such will get the choice to either smear OR rub mayo on yourself for our viewing pleasure. Find it fast my generous offer will only remain for so long.
Oh I see, the issue is that you don't know the whole story. That's not surprising. I must admit I also made an error - in assuming you did. :( The story typically goes that the contestant was asked, by Erotica 1, to smear mayonnaise on his chest (or write his name in mayonnaise on his chest - there's different versions). So when you said "smear mayonnaise on himself" I thought you were referring to his chest. My mistake. In the future I will not assume you know what you're talking about. Hmmm..as I understand it the "story" goes he asked someone to write his name in PEANUT BUTTER. So my advice would be that as long as you are into assuming, just assume that you don't know what you are talking about at the same time you assume the same for me. Unfortunately, you did lose that bonus round, no mayo for you. BUT! In honor of our long standing friendship I will allow you to make it up to me, now I believe we were discussing peanut butter....
Yes, there was also a separate incident involving a name being written in peanut butter. This was the precursor to the mayonnaise incident. I know, it's all very hard to understand and very complicated, so don't your worry you're cute little domestic brain over it.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2930
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:39:00 -
[4194] - Quote
(50 more pages since I checked 3 hours ago. Somebody doing a Psychology, Sociology or even Anthropology Master's or Ph.D. could have ready-made sources for a thesis right here). |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
1006
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:41:00 -
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Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:
Its pretty simple IMO.
If Erotica 1's activities result in obvious dipshits like Sohkar removing themselves from the game - thats a win for EVE.
I agree. Erotica 1 is obviously a "sociopathic and terrible human" being for asking people to read Wikipedia pages... but deep inside some people are bitter, seething, hateful bigots. Erotica 1 exposed such a bigot, and pushed him that much closer to leaving EVE, if he hasn't already.
And for that I am thankful for Erotica 1. EVE does not need bigots.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
651
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:41:00 -
[4196] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:(50 more pages since I checked 3 hours ago. Somebody doing a Psychology, Sociology or even Anthropology Master's or Ph.D. could have ready-made sources for a thesis right here).
doubtful. You would get more out of watching congress for an afternoon. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
892
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:43:00 -
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Anslo wrote:How is any of this relevant to a discussion about the **** poor ethics of someone? Stop making it about something it isn't.
Related side banter about moves to turn EvE into a themepark.
There is already a over a hundred pages of stuff in this thread. I doubt I can turn it into something it isn't and if you look back through my post history in the thread, I've been on topic pretty much most of the way through.
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Korhaka Mirunas
Unkindness Incorporated
Unkind Initiative
5
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:44:00 -
[4198] - Quote
If we assume the whole conversation happened ingame, what was broken in the EULA? Please show me the paragraph(s) explaining. |
Glathull
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
374
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:45:00 -
[4199] - Quote
Huh. Mynna is talking now.
I wonder if Mittens will have anything to say.
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Drone 16
Law Dogz
96
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Posted - 2014.03.27 01:45:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Drone 16 wrote:Xuixien wrote:Drone 16 wrote:
If you can find the word "chest" in my post you will have won the bonus round and as such will get the choice to either smear OR rub mayo on yourself for our viewing pleasure. Find it fast my generous offer will only remain for so long.
Oh I see, the issue is that you don't know the whole story. That's not surprising. I must admit I also made an error - in assuming you did. :( The story typically goes that the contestant was asked, by Erotica 1, to smear mayonnaise on his chest (or write his name in mayonnaise on his chest - there's different versions). So when you said "smear mayonnaise on himself" I thought you were referring to his chest. My mistake. In the future I will not assume you know what you're talking about. Hmmm..as I understand it the "story" goes he asked someone to write his name in PEANUT BUTTER. So my advice would be that as long as you are into assuming, just assume that you don't know what you are talking about at the same time you assume the same for me. Unfortunately, you did lose that bonus round, no mayo for you. BUT! In honor of our long standing friendship I will allow you to make it up to me, now I believe we were discussing peanut butter.... Yes, there was also a separate incident involving a name being written in peanut butter. This was the precursor to the peanut butter incident. I know, it's all very hard to understand and very complicated, so don't your worry you're cute little domestic brain over it.
You know you are right, I should worry my brain over other things. I'm going to take your advice and do so. Thanks. Looking forward to getting to know you more in game. You are a gentlewoman and a scholar.  |
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