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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
522
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:12:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules?
Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings? |

Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:12:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Ryann Padecain wrote:Calm down? I am genuinely wanting a response from CCP on this matter Then you should file a ******* petition and not post in some random thread. If you already did that and the answer wasn't to your liking, you can escalate the petition to a senior GM. If the answer is still not to your liking: I can help you find the "Cancel subscription" button if you are not smart enough to find it. I'm not sure what your issue is but I am sure ISD will sort you out at some point, if you aren't aware as of yet this is not a "random" thread, this is a thread to discuss real life harassment in which I feel has happened to me, please refrain from getting personal and/or angry. |

Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
798
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:13:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Ryann Padecain wrote:Calm down? I am genuinely wanting a response from CCP on this matter Then you should file a ******* petition and not post in some random thread. If you already did that and the answer wasn't to your liking, you can escalate the petition to a senior GM. If the answer is still not to your liking: I can help you find the "Cancel subscription" button if you are not smart enough to find it.
Why so angry? A fellow player got threatened, harssed and bullied and you (in a thread about An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment no less) keep pushing him for an emotional reaction.
Stop it.
D.
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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3245
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:14:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules? Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings?
They didn't, they never do. But given the publicity, this was bound to become public knowledge whether they announced it or not. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Salvos Rhoska
887
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:14:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Falcon locked a thread of mine that he claimed was ranting and a 'quitting' thread. While it's true I am leaving, the purpose of the thread was to highlight CCP's inconsistencies in player moderation. Falcon could have locked it for any number of reasons, but the main one he chose, ranting, indicates to me that CCP are unhappy about their player base being informed of this inconsistency. Is it ranting to put them in the spotlight when they have done such? Which essentially amounts to censorship, but it technically isn't until they remove the link in the locked thread. Disputing Dev actions is against forum rules. He gave you three valid reasons, among which that your thread got locked because "I'm Leaving" threads belong in OPE. Keep digging yourself deeper. Digging? Dude, I unsubbed. There's nothing they can do that I haven't done to myself. The reasons were not valid, any fool can see, they're just trying to save face. I actually like Falcon, but credit where credit is due. Same where it's not. He gave you three valid reasons. Then you broke forum rules again by disputing his action here. Why are you deliberately breaking rules? For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules?
He gave three valid reasons for locking your thread.
Now you are disputing those reasons as valid, here, violating board rules once again.
Keep on disputing Dev decision to lock your thread, and I will just keep on reporting your posts as such. ------------ |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
522
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:15:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Why so angry? A fellow player got threatened, harssed and bullied and you (in a thread about An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment no less) keep pushing him for an emotional reaction.
Stop it.
If your feelings are hurt by my posting, feel free to block me or file a petition. You will get no sympathy for a liar from me.
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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3245
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:16:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V = leet debating skills
Keep ignoring everything but the voices in your head, Salvos, and you'll never, ever be a real boy. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
522
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:16:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules? Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings? They didn't, they never do. But given the publicity, this was bound to become public knowledge whether they announced it or not.
Where did Erotica 1 say he got banned because of the TS recordings? |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3247
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:17:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules? Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings? They didn't, they never do. But given the publicity, this was bound to become public knowledge whether they announced it or not. Where did Erotica 1 say he got banned because of the TS recordings?
Why do idiots repeat questions they already have answers to? You and Salvos, together, might actually make half a brain cell. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
799
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:17:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules? Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings? They didn't, they never do. But given the publicity, this was bound to become public knowledge whether they announced it or not. Where did Erotica 1 say he got banned because of the TS recordings?
On a 3rd party website 
D.
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
524
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:19:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:For one, I'm not breaking the rules. For another, no valid reason was provided. I was providing information to the playerbase and highlighting CCP's inconsistency. Finally, given that CCP is practicing double standards now, what rules? Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings? They didn't, they never do. But given the publicity, this was bound to become public knowledge whether they announced it or not. Where did Erotica 1 say he got banned because of the TS recordings? Why do idiots repeat questions they already have answers to? You and Salvos, together, might actually make half a brain cell.
Does that mean you don't actually know why Erotica 1 got banned? If you do, feel free to link a post (here or on minerbumping.com) by him stating why he got banned. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3247
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:21:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Does that mean you don't actually know why Erotica 1 got banned? If you do, feel free to link a post (here or on minerbumping.com) by him stating why he got banned.
He got banned because CCP was reacting to the carebear morality patrol instead of actually moderating. Moderating =/= reacting. If they were moderating, none of this would have happened. At this stage, it's all on CCP. If they were going to ban him over the sohkar incident, they should have done it a month ago when it actually happened.
/thread You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Salvos Rhoska
888
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:22:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:He got banned because CCP was reacting to the carebear morality patrol instead of actually moderating
Proof and citation needed. ------------ |

Bob Bedala
45
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:23:00 -
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Salvos, those in glass houses etc.
"13. Pyramid quoting is prohibited."
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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3247
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:24:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:He got banned because CCP was reacting to the carebear morality patrol instead of actually moderating Proof and citation needed.
Naturally, you ignored the part of my post that mattered. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Salvos Rhoska
888
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:25:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:He got banned because CCP was reacting to the carebear morality patrol instead of actually moderating Proof and citation needed. Naturally, you ignored the part of my post that mattered.
You have not proved why Erotica1 was banned, anywhere.
None of your posts have provided any such evidence or proof. ------------ |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3248
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:27:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:He got banned because CCP was reacting to the carebear morality patrol instead of actually moderating Proof and citation needed. Naturally, you ignored the part of my post that mattered. You have not proved why Erotica1 was banned, anywhere. None of your posts have provided any such evidence or proof.
If he was going to be banned over the sohkar incident, why now instead of when it was first made public knowledge in February? That's the part that matters, Salvos, the part you are selectively ignoring. As you so often do with reasoning that tramples your 'intellect'. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Ryann Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:29:00 -
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Remiel, I agree with you however, reasoning with salvos the troll is not going to help the matter, you are helping the matter spin off in some kind of drivel which ultimately is not good for anyone as it will be forgotten about. I advise that you stop, you've made your point.
I hope CCP did read my post and will give me a genuine answer on this matter to prevent my humiliating recordings being released. |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
525
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:31:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:If he was going to be banned over the sohkar incident, why now instead of when it was first made public knowledge in February? That's the part that matters, Salvos, the part you are selectively ignoring. As you so often do with reasoning that tramples your 'intellect'.
Do you have evidence that CCP had knowledge of this incident back in february? Do you have evidence that CCP didn't do anything prior to the announcement yesterday? Could it be that CCP asked the opinions of the CSM prior to acting? |

Salvos Rhoska
889
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:31:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:That's the part that matters, Salvos, the part you are selectively ignoring.
Explain your earlier comments in this thread:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4405578#post4405578 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4405639#post4405639 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4405738#post4405738
In all of these you claim that nobody knows the reasons for actions that CCP takes, because they do not discuss how they enact their policy on the part of individual players.
Are you going back on your word now?
Are you now claiming to KNOW why Erotica1 was banned, AGAINST what you have said in these earlier posts?
If so, where is your evidence or proof to support your claims of why Erotica1 was banned?
You are doubletalking and falling on your own sword.
That in addition to already claiming you are leaving, and deliberately and repeatedly disputing a Devs locking of the thread in which you announced it, even though he provided 3 legitimate reasons for doing so.
SLAM DUNK SIT DOWN, SON! ------------ |
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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3248
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:34:00 -
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Do you know what deductive reasoning is? No?
Then you didn't slam dunk ****.
You're right, I can't prove it.
But what's the alternative explanation? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Salvos Rhoska
889
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:35:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Do you know what deductive reasoning is? No? Then you didn't slam dunk ****. You're right, I can't prove it. But what's the alternative explanation?
Rekt.
Leave as you said you would, while you have even a single shred of dignity or credibility left. ------------ |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3248
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:36:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Rekt.
Leave as you said you would, while you have even a single shred of dignity or credibility left.
Whelp, I asked you a question.
What's the alternative explanation?
Also, I said I'm leaving EVE, yes, and I won't be logging in again. Never said anything about the forums. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3248
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:37:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:If he was going to be banned over the sohkar incident, why now instead of when it was first made public knowledge in February? That's the part that matters, Salvos, the part you are selectively ignoring. As you so often do with reasoning that tramples your 'intellect'. Do you have evidence that CCP had knowledge of this incident back in february? Do you have evidence that CCP didn't do anything prior to the announcement yesterday? Could it be that CCP asked the opinions of the CSM prior to acting?
It was made a matter of public record on minerbumping.com and posted to these very forums back in February to mixed reactions. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Darkopus
State War Academy Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:38:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:[quote=Darkopus]I don' thave time for sociopaths that attempt to hide behind the veil of a game when getting kicks out of publicly humiliating people for their own masturbatory pleasure. It would appear that CCP thinks the same which is why that deranged fool has been ejected from the game. And that is perfectly fine. But if CCP are going to use their digression to decide if we are sociopath scum or not, it would be nice to know where they draw that line, since it's clear from these threads that the communities definition is incredibly broad. I don't want to see a situation when a player is banned for something that another player is fine to do, and I don't want to see one victim ignored where and identical victim is helped. Personally, 2 would make the most sense, since it's the way most things work. If you hate someone on Facebook and you harass them on twitter, Facebook don't take action against you. Edit: And note: it's not that it has to 100% cover every nuance of a situation. It just has to cover more than generically saying "don;t harass people", as that's a subjective measure.
but in this case it was done in the name of EVE saying it was part of the game. Thus CCP as any good comopany trying to protect its integrity and reputation looked at it, and their evaluation was "this is too far and could damage us, bring EVE and CCP into potential disrepute" and so they dealt with it.
If all this bonus bullshit was done entirely inside EVE, no recordings made public and done as a true in game in character scam do you think this conversation would be happening.
Some sicko's couldn't understand where the game ends and thus stepped opver the mark and got bitchslapped by the "owners" of the sandbox. Now their sycophant followers can't hack this and are feeding us all their tears.
You can play at whatever floats your boat in this sandbox, but you take it somewhere that CCP doesn't like and do so in the name of the game when what you are doing is nothing to do with the game and everything to do with publically humiliating the actual person driving the character rather than the character then you will get squeezed.
The problem is that the sociopaths of this game simply can't draw the line and think they are being clever in their sick games and then when CCP slats them out of the sand go all huffy. Now they come and cry tears saying they want clear definitions only to enable them to work out how they can circumvent them and continue there sick deranged games. Deal with it you tearful pubbies |

Bob Bedala
45
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:39:00 -
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End of Jester's Trek Latest Blog threadnaught: CCP Falcon: "An announcement has been made [in the OP of this] thread, and as such we're going to bring this thread to a close."
CCP Falcon wrote:While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world
And rightly so. But this "announcement" brings no closure and does nothing to prevent this happening again. It's unreasonable to expect players to stay behind a moving grey line without detailing where the line is, and providing examples (as per the Griefing wiki page, for instance).
As I explain (with helpful suggestions) in more detail in the CSM Feedback to CCP Thread this all illustrates a need for more clarity around this, a reference document with examples which is not the EULA.
Because this is all highly subjective. For example, right now in my opinion I see strong arguments for a temp banning for all three parties involved in the recent matter, and one of them is apparently on the CSM(!). (Not a troll, or devil's advocate, but really. I would go into more detail as to why, but I am guessing that would be against forum rules.)
So who is being harassed here? CCP Falcon's post is certainly admirable but nothing we didn't already know and does not improve things. I know CCP rules (and I guess the legal team?) prevent you from going into detail, but if nothing else this debacle proves to me that something in CCP policy around communication of acceptable behaviour needs fixing. |

Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
526
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:39:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Do you have evidence that CCP had knowledge of this incident back in february? Do you have evidence that CCP didn't do anything prior to the announcement yesterday? Could it be that CCP asked the opinions of the CSM prior to acting? It was made a matter of public record on minerbumping.com and posted to these very forums back in February to mixed reactions.
I take that as a "No" then. Case closed. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3248
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:40:00 -
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Darkopus wrote:...sociopaths of this game...
Define 'sociopath' because we can sit here and question each other's psychological states all day long but neither of us are psychologists so neither of us would know sweet **** all about it. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3248
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:41:00 -
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Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:Do you have evidence that CCP had knowledge of this incident back in february? Do you have evidence that CCP didn't do anything prior to the announcement yesterday? Could it be that CCP asked the opinions of the CSM prior to acting? It was made a matter of public record on minerbumping.com and posted to these very forums back in February to mixed reactions. I take that as a "No" then. Case closed.
You have an unusual method of subjective validation. The way you so blatantly change a 'yes' to a 'no' to satisfy your bias is astonishing. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
768
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Posted - 2014.03.29 14:42:00 -
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Unfortunately, there will never be a shortage of people like the individuals behind the avatars of Erotica 1 and The Mittani. Individuals that take joy in griefing and bullying for their own amusement. They will take it as far as they can to drive someone to the boiling point and rage. If they can get someone to quit or worse, harm themselves or others in real life, the merrier the "lulz" are. They take ZERO responsibility for their actions, instead laying all responsibility squarely on their victims. So they lose no sleep over it. I hardly doubt you can change these individuals.
However, I am pleasantly surprised to see CCP make this statement against this kind of behavior. Eve is a beautiful game that I play in spite of this. Mostly because I understand how difficult it must be to give this community the freedom to role-play even as a villain, while dealing with individuals with ulterior motives consistently looking for ways to use the game as a tool to inflict real-life grief. |
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