The horse being beaten does not even have a skeleton anymore.

Geez........

Falcon's clarfication stated that they should have stopped just after he went mental, not before he entered the Boners Room

Just sayin'

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Personal responsibility for your own actions is a big part of the game and a big part of real life too....
The only difference between the two is that Erotica has been punished and Sokhar has not.

granted they should have stopped before he went mental, but clearly that wasnt there plan. if im correct they wanted to break him emotionally.

granted they should have stopped before he went mental, but clearly that wasnt there plan. if im correct they wanted to break him emotionally. is it wrong... yes it was unnecessary. but the "victim" is still at fault because he chose to participate in the scam and got scammed.

Agreed, but Falcon's statement doesnt say that. It says they shouldnt have continued after the mark went mental because CCP doesnt expect anyone to be responsible for when someone else chooses to lose their temper, but they are responsible for their actions AFTER the mark loses his temper and should have stopped there.

Bit like saying give someone lots of drugs, its all good and fun, but if you see him overdose then stop. Isn't it.

Did they? Was there any proof of this?

Proof is in the fact, that that is how the perpetrators win the Bonus Room.
If they can force the victim to leave, the perpetrators win.
This is accomplished by subjecting the victim to arbitrary demands until, sooner or later, he either explodes in anger, or leaves.

So were they trying to make him leave, or trying to provoke a response?

An angry response also disqualifies them from winning according to their "rules". That too is sufficient.
And again, the mechanism to cause that, is subjecting the victim to abitrary demands, ad nauseum.

Ok so either or both, thats fine, I agree

But by the rules as spelt out by Falcon, leaving wil lnot cause a ban, only continuing to engage the mark after the mark has lost his mind (not including asking to have his isk doubled in the first place)

He hasn't to my reading, actually said that.

If he has, I'd appreciate a link to where.

Bolded and iltalicised for clarity

"However, there's a line as to how severe those circumstances should get, and I'll paraphrase Mynxee by saying that this line needs to be drawn at the point where the alleged victim starts to lose emotional control. We can't set an arbirarty line for this, as this is different for everyone, and every situation. There must be a willingness by those involved to recognise when that point has been reached and realize, with positive community spirit in mind, that they should stop and honor that line with humaine and decent behaviour."

- CCP Falcon, post 378 in thread "CSM FEED BACK TO CCP"

Ok. Thanks for the original wording.

Piggy saw the world not as it was but how he wanted it to be, so I'd guess that most of the high sec Care Bears could play the part...

granted they should have stopped before he went mental, but clearly that wasnt there plan. if im correct they wanted to break him emotionally. is it wrong... yes it was unnecessary. but the "victim" is still at fault because he chose to participate in the scam and got scammed.

perverse sadism.

Life is filled with accidents too. Would you like to have your ship destroyed "just by accident" or "because of some technical defect in electronic systems"? Or outpost with all your stuff blew away "just because of hit by some occasional asteroid"?

[ but taking it to the next step is a bullshit act of perverse sadism

So ganking a mans 44bil ships is fine. Cool.

Marking him for a 60bil scam while pretending to help him is fine or next level? Not sure.

Then interviewing him for a public post so people can laugh at him is what? next step perverse sadism?
http://themittani.com/features/alod-go-back-wow?page=0%2C1

Or is that Ok, kinda hard to tell, but considering the target was making some real life threats is pretty clear he was having an emotional breakdown, yet the public post went up anways and remains to this day.

I just got back from my local park where I was enjoying watching the sheer innocent joy of children that can be truly excited to the core in the simple act of running around with no purpose. No anger. No hate. Just the simple pleasure of existing.

How do we go from that to what I see in this thread? People desperately trying to justify the actions of a sadistic psychopath. Even going so far as to express joy in listening to the recordings of, and the participating in, that twisted TS channel.

Like I said earlier. We are one ****** up species.

Mr Epeen

Children are probably some of the most heartless sadistic creatures on this planet.

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Children are probably some of the most heartless sadistic creatures on this planet.

It follows then that innocence and sadism are not mutually exclusive.

But they can hate.

I just got back from my local park where I was enjoying watching the sheer innocent joy of children that can be truly excited to the core in the simple act of running around with no purpose. No anger. No hate. Just the simple pleasure of existing.

How do we go from that to what I see in this thread? People desperately trying to justify the actions of a sadistic psychopath. Even going so far as to express joy in listening to the recordings of, and the participating in, that twisted TS channel.

Like I said earlier. We are one ****** up species.

Mr Epeen

[I'm not going to get drawn into that discussion. I'll just say that I agree with that. Except...

The thing is, they don't do it out of malice. They do it out of curiosity. They don't know their boundaries. That's for us to guide them in. But what do we do? We teach them hate and racism and give them encouragement to lie about their dark side.

Mr Epeen

Understandable and acceptable in children, due to their stage of development.
Not in adults.