For a ship that's supposed to kite, the frigate has a really low lock range.

I'm no genius but kiting BS's are really a "thing". I know theres some spped mach, navy mega etc. fits out there but in general in a BS you are brawling or sniping straight up. Assuming the Barghest is gonna be around a bil, in what way is it better than a Golem or CNR? Links plus RF Disruptor does the job. I'm kinda disappointed. I was expecting some akin to the Vindi webs like a explo rad bonus so torps can do full damage to a battleship. CCP hates missiles it seems :/ Does any1 disagree?

EDIT: Arent* really a thing

Say hello to the newest pirate faction in New Eden, Mordu's Legion.

This thread will be focused on the ships themselves, details about how to get them should be coming shortly but we're still making some tweaks to that.

Mordu's ships are focused on three main themes: speed, missiles, and warp scram/disruptor range. The primary goal is to have a very capable set of kiting ships that are especially attractive to PVPers. They will get bonuses from Caldari and Gallente spaceship command skills. We initially wanted to fill the Caldari/Minmatar faction gap, but the existing factions didn't really support that and adding story and assets for an entirely new faction wasn't practical. Mordu's Legion suits our goals extremely well in every other way so we are very happy with them (and their scary stealth pizza pan art).

Look forward to hearing what you guys think, we are pretty excited.

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GARMUR

Caldari Frigate Bonus per level:
25% bonus to missile damage

Gallente Frigate Bonus per level:
10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range

Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time

Slot layout: 3H, 4M, 3L; 0 turrets, 3 launchers
Fittings: 38 PWG, 178 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 680 / 590 / 560
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 400 / 2.05
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 415 / 3.2 / 987000 / 4.38s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 28km / 650 / 5
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 32

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ORTHRUS

Caldari Cruiser Bonus per level:
20% bonus to missile damage

Gallente Cruiser Bonus per level:
10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range

Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time

Slot layout: 6H, 5M, 4L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers
Fittings: 900 PWG, 390 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 2950 / 2280 / 2100
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 1550 / 3.16
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 245 / .48 / 9362000 / 6.23s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 25
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 300 / 7
Sensor strength: 21
Signature radius: 120

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BARGHEST

Caldari Battleship Bonus per level:
5% bonus to missile damage

Gallente Battleship Bonus per level:
10% bonus to warp scrambler and warp disruptor range

Role Bonus:
200% bonus to missile velocity
50% penalty to missile flight time

Slot layout: 8H, 6M, 6L; 0 turrets, 7 launchers
Fittings: 11600 PWG, 700 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 11200 / 8750 / 8100
Capacitor (amount / cap/sec) : 6100 / 5.28
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 148 / .098 / 98467000 / 13.38s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 76km / 110 / 7
Sensor strength: 29
Signature radius: 370

Adjusted OP to reflect that missile damage bonuses are all per level.

Fozzie putting together a blurb on where the BPCs will come from and I'll update OP with that soon. Short version is that they will be available for Mordu's Legion LP as well as off new NPCs in low sec.

So what you're telling me is, they were designed around being Caldari/Minmatar and we'd finally get some nice missile kiters, but then the lore precluded this? :P

I'm Disappointed in the slot layout on the BS 6 Mids when it's designed to have a point means your going to be trying to fit a 4 slot tank (after prop mod & point ) CCP please drop the ultility High a give it another Mid

I'm Disappointed in the slot layout on the BS 6 Mids when it's designed to have a point means your going to be trying to fit a 4 slot tank (after prop mod & point ) CCP please drop the ultility High a give it another Mid

leaving 4 slots, 2 extenders, 1 em and 1 adaptive... I think for the price (500ish?, wild guess) the ship needs greater tanking capabilties when it's bonus's specificly take away mid slots.

200% bonus to speed + 50% penalty to flight time = 50% bonus to range.


Where X is speed, and Y is flight time:
XY is Range.

With bonuses and penalties:
3X * 0.5Y = 1.5XY

I have great concerns about the bhaghests tanking capability with only 6 mid slots and no shiled bonus of any kind.
1 slot has to go to disruptor/scram
1 to prop mod
leaving 4 slots, 2 extenders, 1 em and 1 adaptive... I think for the price (500ish?, wild guess) the ship needs greater tanking capabilties when it's bonus's specificly take away mid slots.

I recommend 4 % shield resists per level, or an additional mid slot.
maybe give it t2 resists or close to so that the ship can be truly gloriously fit with dual point like it's ment to without losing all of it's tank.

Point range bonus on the BS seems to be useless.

It looks like they need more targeting range. The ship bonuses seem to lend them to extreme missile range, but they don't have the targeting to capitalize on that.

It looks like they need more targeting range. The ship bonuses seem to lend them to extreme missile range, but they don't have the targeting to capitalize on that.