This may actually become EVE's most loved hot drop boat. I mean 1km-¦ for cyno fuel, you could basically run down a pipe and hot drop every jump without restocking. And enough Fleet Hangar to refuel all the caps. Perfect, no?

This is pretty much the best use for these ships, because it has no use as an actual hauler.

well that's sure a thing, i have absolutely no idea what role that thing will play

will be interesting to see how it shakes out

Was the DST really used that much to online/offline POS's?

slower than a jump freighter
more risky than a jump freighter
less cargo than a jump freighter

Transport Ships Bonus per level:
+5% Warp Speed (was the useless tanking bonus)
-20% CPU requirements for Cloaking Devices

Amarr Industrial Bonus per level:
+7.5% Armor Repairer Effectiveness
+5% Velocity

Currently the DSTs see next to no use. They don't hold more than their T1 counterparts, often holding much less. The only thing they have going for them is a bit more tank and +2 WCS but most people are rightfully cautious about not moving T1 industrials or DSTs in dangerous areas. When you need to move stuff through hostile space, you use a blockade runner. When you need to move high volume cargo you use a T1 industrial which max out at 35-40k m3 and use caution.

POS work is one of the few areas where an updated DST would be of use for any reason other than simply having more capacity than their t1 counterparts.



1/50th the cost of a jump freighter. Has warp core stabilizers, tank, etc.

cost is irrelevant because there is no risk attached

POS work is one of the few areas where an updated DST would be of use for any reason other than simply having more capacity than their t1 counterparts.

Really like the 1000m3 base and Fleet hangar combo together with proposed changes but think that one detail could make it perfect niche ship. It doesn't make it good enough to replace Orca and it doesn't steal jobs from other industrials in deploying POS mods. It purpose is transport in hostile space and lets focus on that.

Deep space transport should have few tools to avoid light gate camps but should still be kill able with proper camp. That will make it real niche transport.

I define light camp as:
Small gang with only drag/stop bubble.
HIC with sebo/remote sebo as tackle (bubble and infinite point).
Any ship with long point(s) and no web/scram.

And proper camp as:
One that uses web and scram on range bonused ships (loki, proteus, recons) or with skirmish link booster in system.

So what it should be best is keep everything like you proposed on first page BUT replace +2 Warp Core Strength with bubble immunity and +1 Warp Core Strength or just Bubble immunity.

So he gets away from solo HIC using MJD or bubble immunity, gets away from drag bubble solo frig/cruiser as he is immune, gets away from small camp with only one long point applied as he has higher warp core strength (if he has +1 bonus). But 2 or more long points will force him to try and spool MJD and now for <10 sec. campers must get in range and scram. But if he tries to run through proper camp or war blockade with longer scrams/webs as initial tackle (ether from ship bonuses or local skirmish links) he won't be able to warp away but could still be able to slowboat back to the gate with overloaded tank. So still quite killable, makes flying it very interesting in creating choices on multiple scenarios for pilot but can still refuel fleet without need to get stuck in all the bubbles along the way and deal with solo campers.


A7

P.S. I fly transports and blockade runners and also have killed/hunted quite a few.

This will be a tool for low-sec. Corporations and alliances in the area often do not have anywhere near the logistical organization that a nullsec group can offer. In my alliance there's one person that runs jita runs every blue moon. My main has -10.0 sec status; hence I have a hauler alt.

My logistics runs kind of like this. I need ships. My Occator (38km^3) or my Iteron V (45km^3) runs to a trade hub. It moves bought goods/ships to a high sec system next to my low sec staging area. My Viator Blockade Runner then makes 4-5 runs into low carrying the ships. None of these ships can carry a packaged Battleship. The Viator can't carry a BC - my main has to scurry out to high sec to pick it up and pray there's not any opportunists in the area - or I have to risk the Occator or Iteron traveling into low sec asking friends to scout.

The future Occator will be able to carry larger ships with a cargo hold just big enough for the modules to fit in. I have to go one or two jumps max. The tank is sufficient enough where if a decent sized fleet actually gets a hold of me I can last long enough for my friends in the area to come rescue me. If the fleet isn't decent sized - I can probably get away on my own. The fact that I have a subcapital ship that can move BS is really cool imho.

I was ready to dismiss what you wrote out of hand because bubble immunity but after reading I find myself somewhat swayed by your reasoning

Cargo scan immunity should be moved to DSTs from BRs.

zarnak you're bad, flying them in 1j from highsec on your main is fine if you actually have control of the system you're going to