Lets also not forget that common hauling wisdom prior to this was simply don't haul more than 2x your gank cost.

The entire point is you don't need to use a hypocritical argument. There's plenty of others.

Post 1:
Carebear: You should play differently.
You: How dare you tell me to play differently.

Post B:
Carebear: Damn gankers
You: You should play differently.

A good tank options up other options, such as utilising the power of friendship in this single player themepark spaceship game.

And if this is so abhorrent, why is telling them to go PVP to fix it ok?

Ok, that's a non-sequitur at this point since the method of fitting and the number of players involved in hauling have no relation. But if we're going down this path anyways, are your own haulers setting an example by running with 10+ support through highsec to counter potential 80 man gank squads?

Most importantly, why is it so bad to do the smart thing, not tie up a dozen pilots and simply bypass the blockade? Cause it only requires one character? Why should we waste effort?

No they run with 1 other guy who webs them in to a 2 second align time like all of the other high-value haulers that don't get ganked.

Most importantly, why is it so bad to do the smart thing, not tie up a dozen pilots and simply bypass the blockade? Cause it only requires one character? Why should we waste effort?

HEY!
I just noticed that you changed the angle from the camera to your face slightly!

It's ... highly unusual, although it's just a slight change.


I like it, though. (:


Oh yeah and the coat. Of course. Nice. :)

Maybe they shouldn't have complained about rigs being a ****** choice, considering the significant part of the tank is now in the armour or shield. It takes something like 80 T1 catalysts to kill a triple bulkhead freighter. 80 people. Is it asking too much for the freighter pilot to maybe make some friends in the popular single player themepark game EVE Online?

I changed the facial expression to match my current feelings toward the general playerbase of EVE aswell.

Or one multiboxer in 12 Battlecruisers or so, and one bump ship. The 80 people is a nice thought. :D

It was the standard. Past tense. It was the standard until the freighter pilots' whimpering cries reached critical mass to have the devs give them the ability to fit a tank like they claimed they wanted.

Now, we have a point to make.

I'm not sure what the point they are trying to make is. It's not fit a tank, because those with tanks, both partial and full are being killed. It's not haul reasonable loads because empty freighters are being killed.

I can only guess it's "because we can" for the most part. That said, it wasn't just a matter of adding tank. Not on the part of the request or CCP's response.

Regarding what wisdom was vs is, I doubt there has really been any change save stay out of Aufay. There won't be until 1) bulkheads are proven to be worth fitting for all cargo values by actually useful as a deterrent (not the case in Aufay), and 2) ganking of non-bulkhead fit freighters for that reason and no other becomes significantly more widespread.

I doubt there has really been any change save stay out of Aufay.

No they run with 1 other guy who webs them in to a 2 second align time like all of the other high-value haulers that don't get ganked.

Or one multiboxer in 12 Battlecruisers or so, and one bump ship. The 80 people is a nice thought. :D

As a non freighter pilot I would have thought immediately webbing the ship would have lowered it's agility as well as it's speed making a true 2 second align not quite possible. Or is it that it only needs to alight for 2 sec before the web can effectively sling it into warp?

Genuine question.

As a non freighter pilot I would have thought immediately webbing the ship would have lowered it's agility as well as it's speed making a true 2 second align not quite possible. Or is it that it only needs to alight for 2 sec before the web can effectively sling it into warp?

Genuine question.

Edit: And youtube has demonstrated the error of my thinking on that front. Interesting.

Do Not Autopilot through Uedama or the surrounding systems.

If you are piloting through this system don't be arrogant or stupid otherwise CODE will gank your freighter or orca. Interested in fighting against CODE?

Contact me in game.

Genesia 1:1.1 and the vile and wretched who make spoils unto others calling theirselves saviors from the chaos that they create will burn at the sounds of a million hand claps and the recoil of the blaster, launcher, cannon and laser from those of the Protectorate Rangers.

In time CODE will burn to nothing more than an ember of each pilots former self as each CODE member tries to remember when they were young and new in their Capsule and everything was on the horizon. They will burn in the knowledge of their knowing that they can never go back to the solstice, to their havens of freedom that they enjoyed before they became....CODE.

EvE is for bullies plain and simple, almost no one wants nor do mechanics support fair fights. CCP supports bullying because it is what makes this game "edgy".

Do Not Autopilot through Uedama or the surrounding systems.

If you are piloting through this system don't be arrogant or stupid otherwise CODE will gank your freighter or orca. Interested in fighting against CODE?

Contact me in game.

Genesia 1:1.1 and the vile and wretched who make spoils unto others calling theirselves saviors from the chaos that they create will burn at the sounds of a million hand claps and the recoil of the blaster, launcher, cannon and laser from those of the Protectorate Rangers.

In time CODE will burn to nothing more than an ember of each pilots former self as each CODE member tries to remember when they were young and new in their Capsule and everything was on the horizon. They will burn in the knowledge of their knowing that they can never go back to the solstice, to their havens of freedom that they enjoyed before they became....CODE.

Do Not Autopilot through Uedama or the surrounding systems.

If you are piloting through this system don't be arrogant or stupid otherwise CODE will gank your freighter or orca. Interested in fighting against CODE?

Contact me in game.

Genesia 1:1.1 and the vile and wretched who make spoils unto others calling theirselves saviors from the chaos that they create will burn at the sounds of a million hand claps and the recoil of the blaster, launcher, cannon and laser from those of the Protectorate Rangers.

In time CODE will burn to nothing more than an ember of each pilots former self as each CODE member tries to remember when they were young and new in their Capsule and everything was on the horizon. They will burn in the knowledge of their knowing that they can never go back to the solstice, to their havens of freedom that they enjoyed before they became....CODE.

Wow man.

Loyal is one of the best FC's in the game. He does everything himself and asks for very little in return.