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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
218
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:38:00 -
[1111] - Quote
Winter Archipelago wrote:Noragli wrote:The problem is that -10 characters or other low sec status characters can operate ships and attack people in high security space.
When a character who has aggressed concord undocks or boards a ship, his ship is barred from warping. If concord can do that, then there is no reason the same can't be applied to an outlaw who undocks or boards a ship in high security space. He should be barred from warping or activating weapons.
Ganking will still be possible, but it won't be so ridiculously easy as it is now. Quit whining and do something about it. Those players are already -10, as you said, but they hadn't done anything up to that point that hasn't already been punished (either be sec status loss or by CONCORD taking out their ship). They did the crime, and got punished for it. Finite crime does not beget infinite punishment. If they're such a problem, get a Tornado, set it up for insta-locking, and camp them into their station. Catalysts (especially gank-fit Catalysts) aren't that difficult to kill. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD.
It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!"
It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled |
Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
53
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:43:00 -
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Goddess Purelight wrote:Why not use the Frogs to move stuff. (They do great work, so you don't have to)
This.
They Are organized. They really are, and their techniques are exemplary, contrary to the AFK freighter pilots stupidity who don't remain at keyboard, fail to scout the route and then ask CCP to fix their safety.
Goddess Purelight wrote:In real life you can get ganked anywhere u go, why not in eve?
I don't always compare RL and EVE, but real freighters navigating near the coast of Somalia often bring armed guards (like this huge containership at this moment) are constantly in contact with NATO's navy forces while keeping an eye on their surroundings, using binoculars and RADAR at ALL times. In other words, they care about their safety, their assets and ship.
Considering Aufay is in fact very similar to that dangerous coast at the moment, why EVE should be any different? Plus, it's in space, supposed to be a lot more dangerous than sea.
Also, this thread 
No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5529
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:48:00 -
[1113] - Quote
So the current subtitle on this summer's EvE theme
"Rise Of The Pirates"
Should in fact be
"Shooting At People Is Bad And Should Not Be Allowed"
According to some folk around here
Dave Stark wrote:i'll admit, i haven't had time to read this thread in the last few days. however, i've got a bit of free time today and i think 40 pages of carebear tears about ganking might be a great way to pass the time.
let me grab some snacks and get comfortable.
Get ready for some almighty refusal to grasp basic concepts from our regular easy aggravated caring bearing chums, Dave
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
"How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19047
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:51:00 -
[1114] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:
By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD.
It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!"
It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
Bin Laden was never punished by any agency for any of the actions he took credit for.
Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord has a 100% conviction rate.
It's also a very tasteless, not to mention terrible, comparison and verges on breaking the rules when it comes to discussing both politics and religion. You should be proud of yourself 
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5529
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:53:00 -
[1115] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD.
It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!"
It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
Bin Laden was never punished by any agency for any of the actions he took credit for. Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord have a 100% conviction rate. It's also a very tasteless, not to mention terrible, comparison and verges on breaking the rules when it comes to discussing both politics and religion. You should be proud of yourself
Agreed, if you want to keep making comments like that Nami, I request you remove my name from your bio
Also; Faction Police do take a dim view of -10ers in their space
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
"How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1911
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:59:00 -
[1116] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord has a 100% conviction rate.
Blowing up your 15mil ISK ship is "punishment", oh the hilarity.
Just how poor are you?
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5530
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:05:00 -
[1117] - Quote
Sentamon wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord has a 100% conviction rate.
Blowing up your 15mil ISK ship is "punishment", oh the hilarity. Just how poor are you? Come up with a better term, and no not everyone is punished, the scout, the scanner, the supplier, the bumper (all key players in the gank) all go completely unnoticed by CONCORD and since you brought up real life, in real life accomplices get charged.
So, 15m isk and sec repair costs each time you gank, thats just meaningless is it?
If so, chuck me a couple hundred mill that you wont miss, ta
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
"How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19049
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:14:00 -
[1118] - Quote
Sentamon wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord has a 100% conviction rate.
Blowing up your 15mil ISK ship and 15 minutes of safety in a station is "punishment", oh the hilarity. Just how poor are you? Come up with a better term then punishment, and no not everyone is punished, the scout, the scanner, the supplier, the bumper (all key players in the gank) all go completely unnoticed by CONCORD and since you brought up real life, in real life accomplices get charged for the crime, not just the trigger man. According to the rules in effect the only person that commits an offence is the ganker, being an accessory is not a punishable offence ingame.
I'd also like to see evidence that the people who legally sell goods (suppliers) such as vehicles and weapons that end up being used to commit a crime getting prosecuted in real life, because by your logic, people who sell the products of Ford, GM, Honda, Heckler and Koch, Beretta, Glock etc should all be appearing in court as accomplices for supplying criminals with tools.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Dave Stark
6395
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:42:00 -
[1119] - Quote
if you're splitting the loot with your scanner and bumper (which, if you're not, you should feel bad because you're a horrible person) then they're not an accomplice, they were simply your customer since you paid them to provide a service. |
Dave Stark
6395
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:49:00 -
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having half read half of the thread (the repetition and whining is tedious).
we've given freighters a straight buff against being ganked, and people are still whining about it...
what, exactly, is their outrageous demands this time?
if the beloved dumb idea of fittings didn't save their miserable carcasses, what else do they want changed that also won't save them? |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
211
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:50:00 -
[1121] - Quote
Momentarily distracted by a juvenile skunk wandering the fenceline at work. Kept wondering if the great horned owl on top of the lightpost was going to gank it or not. In this case the owl chose wisely.
EVE is a dark place, and bad things happen to people who don't exercise reasonable caution in what they do, be it market trading, scams, exploring, mining, mission running or hauling. While I would never stoop to victim-blaming in RL, as I consider it despicable, in EVE you do have to shoulder the burden of the consequences of your own inactions. Failing to take measures to help ensure your own safety such as maintaining situational awareness, properly equipping for a task, and using teamwork results in bad things happening.
When Bad Things happen, more often than not they could have been prevented. You can try to blame the ones who did the Bad Thing, but in reality you carry the lion's share of the blame. This isn't like other MMO's where the bad guys are generally ineffective and usually comically absurd. Here they are out to do your space pixels real harm, and if you don't do anything to prevent it they will do just that.
Expecting CCP or CONCORD to help protect you from yourself is unreasonable, and unfair to those who do take the time and effort to ensure their own safety. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5534
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:12:00 -
[1122] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:having half read half of the thread (the repetition and whining is tedious).
we've given freighters a straight buff against being ganked, and people are still whining about it...
what, exactly, is their outrageous demands this time?
if the beloved dumb idea of fittings didn't save their miserable carcasses, what else do they want changed that also won't save them?
Give them an inch and the demand a mile.
Why are the allegedly least violent pilots the most offensive?
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
"How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
21416
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:16:00 -
[1123] - Quote
tl;dr.
the answer is no. if freighters are being destroyed, tht means people need to buy a new one.
it keeps the freighters flowing through the market, and thus prevents them from being stuck there forever.
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
I like to gank it, gank it!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2125
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:18:00 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could
And we're done here.
"CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT."
Unsuccessful At Everything |
Dally Lama
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:23:00 -
[1125] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD.
It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!"
It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
Bin Laden was never punished by any law enforcement agency for any of the actions he took credit for. Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord has a 100% conviction rate. It's also a very tasteless, not to mention terrible, comparison and verges on breaking the rules when it comes to discussing both politics and religion. You should be proud of yourself
He was just making an analogy. Please reserve such butthurt for people who actually condone such actions, or compare players to such people.
His comparison of in-game terrorists to real-life terrorists is not offensive. Neither is it correct, to be fair.
New Fitting Window | Exact Distances Above 10km | Remove all inactive contacts |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
962
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:23:00 -
[1126] - Quote
Jethro Winchester wrote:Loyalanon is a cunt.
This is why these forums badly need a "dislike" button.
Because I'm far too lazy to report personal attacks.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
709
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:27:00 -
[1127] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:having half read half of the thread (the repetition and whining is tedious).
we've given freighters a straight buff against being ganked, and people are still whining about it...
what, exactly, is their outrageous demands this time?
if the beloved dumb idea of fittings didn't save their miserable carcasses, what else do they want changed that also won't save them? Give them an inch and they demand a mile. Why are the allegedly least violent pilots the most offensive? Because they never blow off the steam.
CCP should make 5 successful freighter gank killmails a prerequisite to flying one.
Would greatly increase average freighter pilot competency and inner joy. |
Dave Stark
6395
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:30:00 -
[1128] - Quote
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:having half read half of the thread (the repetition and whining is tedious).
we've given freighters a straight buff against being ganked, and people are still whining about it...
what, exactly, is their outrageous demands this time?
if the beloved dumb idea of fittings didn't save their miserable carcasses, what else do they want changed that also won't save them? Give them an inch and they demand a mile. Why are the allegedly least violent pilots the most offensive? Because they never blow off the steam. CCP should make 5 successful freighter gank killmails a prerequisite to flying one. Would greatly increase average freighter pilot competency and inner joy.
sit in a 0.5 choke point system, ***** on miniluv's ganks.
"hurr freighter ganking is easy, look at all my killmails" |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19052
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:34:00 -
[1129] - Quote
Dally Lama wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
By that reasoning their sec status should increase towards 0 every time they get "punished" by CONCORD.
It's simply a gap in the system - minus10 well-known criminal, ganker extraordinaire, the-bane-of-miners, etc. etc. enters the high-security space protected by CONCORD. "Hello citizen! Have a safe and productive day!"
It's like saying Osama Ibn Laden could regularly travel on holidays to the US with the government's approval.
Bin Laden was never punished by any law enforcement agency for any of the actions he took credit for. Gankers on the other hand are punished for each and every crime they commit in highsec, unlike real life law enforcement Concord has a 100% conviction rate. It's also a very tasteless, not to mention terrible, comparison and verges on breaking the rules when it comes to discussing both politics and religion. You should be proud of yourself He was just making an analogy. Please reserve such butthurt for people who actually condone such actions, or compare players to such people. His comparison of in-game terrorists to real-life terrorists is not offensive. Note: I don't actually agree with his point. Ganking is fine. Analogy or not, and any non-existent butthurt aside, it's still tasteless.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
709
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:35:00 -
[1130] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Dave Stark wrote:having half read half of the thread (the repetition and whining is tedious).
we've given freighters a straight buff against being ganked, and people are still whining about it...
what, exactly, is their outrageous demands this time?
if the beloved dumb idea of fittings didn't save their miserable carcasses, what else do they want changed that also won't save them? Give them an inch and they demand a mile. Why are the allegedly least violent pilots the most offensive? Because they never blow off the steam. CCP should make 5 successful freighter gank killmails a prerequisite to flying one. Would greatly increase average freighter pilot competency and inner joy. sit in a 0.5 choke point system, ***** on miniluv's ganks. "hurr freighter ganking is easy, look at all my killmails" On a competency scale of zero to 100, going from zero to 1 qualifies as a 'great increase'.
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2410
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:36:00 -
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Princess Suicide wrote:Wow man.
Loyal is one of the best FC's in the game. He does everything himself and asks for very little in return. You should be ashamed of yourself for such words.
Also,
Dryson. You fail on forums as much as you fail in game. Thanks for being bad so I can poke fun.
Doesn't change the fact. She's a weak minded person and easily owned in local
every time she opens her mouth. She's chestbeating too much and can't even come
up with some original smacktalk.
You people lack quality.
The case of the bottomless dress.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Stop staring at them! ;) -
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2410
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:43:00 -
[1132] - Quote
Hell... she's so weak minded, she banned me from the minerbumping channel,
because she couldn't deal with me and used 'fails at trolling' as a reason,
showing that not only I did a perfect job trolling,
but also that she can't handle me.
She hides behind chestbeating about silly achievements literally anybody can pull off,
when she has a big group behind him.
Some high quality people you have, yep. And absolutely no quality control in HR.
The case of the bottomless dress.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Stop staring at them! ;) -
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5536
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:43:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Jethro Winchester wrote:Loyalanon is a ****.
This is why these forums badly need a "dislike" button. Because I'm far too lazy to report personal attacks.
This wasnt just a personal attack, it was a filter evasion.
But if its so much more trouble to push a button and type a couple words to report a rulebreaking post than push a button which would do nothing, Im not sure how you found the energy to post, tbh
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon.
"How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2410
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:46:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Herr Wilkus wrote:Jethro Winchester wrote:Loyalanon is a ****.
This is why these forums badly need a "dislike" button. Because I'm far too lazy to report personal attacks. This wasnt just a personal attack, it was a filter evasion. But if its so much more trouble to push a button and type a couple words to report a rulebreaking post than push a button which would do nothing, Im not sure how you found the energy to post, tbh
And it's true anyway. Seeing this as personal attack is ridiculous.
What a baby. OH NO A PERSONAL ATTACK!!!
The case of the bottomless dress.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Stop staring at them! ;) -
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Dave Stark
6397
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:48:00 -
[1135] - Quote
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:On a competency scale of zero to 100, going from zero to 1 qualifies as a 'great increase'.
this is true.
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Pine Marten
Viziam
Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:51:00 -
[1136] - Quote
personal attacks dont exist in eve. |
Dave Stark
6397
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:52:00 -
[1137] - Quote
Pine Marten wrote:personal attacks dont exist in eve.
they do on the forums, though. |
Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
54
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:54:00 -
[1138] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Princess Suicide wrote:Wow man.
Loyal is one of the best FC's in the game. He does everything himself and asks for very little in return. You should be ashamed of yourself for such words.
Also,
Dryson. You fail on forums as much as you fail in game. Thanks for being bad so I can poke fun. Doesn't change the fact. She's a weak minded person and easily owned in local every time she opens her mouth. She's chestbeating too much and can't even come up with some original smacktalk. You people lack quality.
Well this is pretty much what I have been talking about.
I've Never seen any other ganker who rages in local like him. Although I respect he might be a good FC.
The day people like him tries stayin wise once and takes it easy: they will be surprised to see how their corp's view will change from the miner, AG point of view. Before complaining about miners and anti-gankers being rude, they should take a look at mirror, otherwise the local filth in high sec will just get worse.
No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet
A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3473
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:59:00 -
[1139] - Quote
Any time you do something in EVE that causes a threadnaught like this, you're probably doing it right.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita.
[email protected] |
Azure Rayl
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2014.06.20 10:03:00 -
[1140] - Quote
Quote:Before complaining about miners and anti-gankers being rude, they should take a look at mirror, otherwise the local filth in high sec will just get worse.
This, i mean seriously hypocrisy is off the charts. |
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