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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:01:25 -
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Aebe Amraen wrote:Replication steps: - Turn transparency to 0 with window blur disabled. - Open your inventory and resize the window to fill the entire screen. - Watch as the static slowly drives you mad. +1
I'm laughing and QQing at the same time.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Kodlak
RusCo Military Contractors
0
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:03:58 -
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When is the name purge going to be, or has it happened already? |
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
528
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:05:05 -
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FHB Branch wrote:BTW... as I mentioned earlier, more people post or "LIKE" the post which complain about the GUI than those that support it.. so you're not only close-minded but in the MINORITY. And a lot of people seem to rebut your posts.. .LOL
that should tell you something. fyi feedback on all things on eveo is always overwhelmingly negative
giving space likes on posts is not compulsory
only the people with (autistic) complaints about the issue are even bothering to say anything while those of us with functioning pattern recognition and ability to withstand change with only mild grumblings choose to (mostly) stay silent because there's nothing to complain about
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2613
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:14:43 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:only the people with (autistic) complaints about the issue are even bothering to say anything while those of us with functioning pattern recognition and ability to withstand change with only mild grumblings choose to (mostly) stay silent because there's nothing to complain about It depends on your playstyle.
If you just like to chill and bs in fleet chat while randomly pressing F1, sure who cares about the GUI, you're probably not even looking at your EVE client most of the time.
If, for example, you do even occasional market trading (like me) I can assure you it requires a pretty outstanding level of 'no f*s given' to not be at least a little bit annoyed by the new GUI and the constant color changes.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Daneau
Unconstrained Design
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:16:57 -
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Since it seems like you have taken your inspiration from most of the mainstream user interfaces it can only be hoped that you will also feel enlightened by the amount of customization each of these mainstream interfaces allows, ie such trifling little things like font sizes, what colors to use for different types of text and highlights, what backgrounds to use etc.
Given CCP's track record in allowing customization i won't hold my breath though, at least some of the presets look enough like what i used to that i will no doubt get sued to it even though i will get a crick in my neck from having to lean towards the screen every time i need to actually read omething.
The one issue that i doubt i will ever feel comfortable with though is the way that windows go all Xmas on LSD whenever the focus changes, as long as you got a few small windows out on the edges no big deal, once you have wallet/market covering most of the screen and order window and maybe an info window or two it definitely looks more like a light show than a functioning UI.
New ship rendering from the ships i have seen looks a little on the bright and shiny side but also clearer some colors change(RIP my old red gallente shuttle ) but nothing that i feel to strongly about one way or another.
Drone hit points once again visible in drone bay has to be one of my favourite small changes in a long time.
The new map is obviously still a work in progress but it definitely looks promising.
Manual flight control, seems like it is easier to do sharp turns using the keyboard than without and given EvE's 1 second ticks it is surprisingly reponsive but then again that might just be the client smoothing the edges ?
All in all a few things positive/negative and most of it solid not to exciting but working as intended |
No Inspiration
Eldar Army La Division Bleue
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:20:44 -
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OH MY F****** GOD The new UI looks fantastic.
Minmatar theme is very steampunk. I feel like I'm playing both Fallout and Eve at the same time, it's awesome.
Whoever worked on this stuff, you deserve a bonus from Hilmar!
The ships on the other hand. Some look really great ! But some also make me wanna vomit, like the new pilgrim or new nightmare...
CEO, Eldar Army.
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Lady Rohk
The Cuddlefish Ethereal Dawn
22
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:21:55 -
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I'd really love it if you could do UI color schemes based off the ship manufacturer (i.e. duvolle labs, or whatever) as well as/instead of just the ship races. |
Jed Clampett
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:28:15 -
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Color-blind PC icons, yay!
Now lets have an option in the Neocom and station menu for people who liked the old icons better because we are not color blind but maybe a bit fuzzy sighted. Let us choose!
The old icons had more to catch your eye as differential than 2D monochrome symbols (3 factors not just 1).
Plus a lot of EVE gamers are old and stodgy about change for change sake after 10 years. |
Skalle Pande
Teknisk Forlag
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:32:52 -
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Kebabski wrote:I play EVE in windowed mode and when my client initially loads after logging in it's standard in minimized mode. However after maximiziing it to full windoiwed mode my character selection screen goes from colour to black. So i have to guess where my clickable character's face is to actually log in.
Confirming this. Must be a bug. Workaround may be to push back maximizing window until after login, but not good nonetheless...
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Aebe Amraen
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
106
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:34:42 -
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An addendum to my previous post, more UI feedback:
4. The way pinned windows interact with unpinned windows is strange. See this screenshot for an example. It's taken with the Carbon theme, transparency set to zero, and window blur enabled. The window in the foreground is pinned; the window in the background is not. Notice two things:
a) The background window is still slightly transparent, even though it should be entirely opaque (noted in my previous post).
b) The pinned window is not only itself more transparent, but it acts like the window behind it is also transparent (or not there). This is rather strange.
Disabling window blur fixes both these problems, but then I feel like killing myself from the static. |
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Soareen
Revenant Tactical
0
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:35:19 -
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"The more specific you can be about what you like or don't, the better. General comments help a little but specific ones help a lot. Bonus points for screenshots if you're describing a particular feature or behavior."
Just FORGET the new UI.
It was a mistake. anyone can make mistake. the problem is not to admit it.
Its ******* look like a very basic file browser. Not like a game.
Its ugly as hell.
Just bring eve back please. |
Lee Mealone
Radzone
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:35:21 -
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tldr; not happy with new UI at all.
I wanted to join the many replies so far on my disappointment with the new UI. The icons are dull, boring, flat. Similar to Win 8 - a step backwards and very difficult to get used to. The old Neocom looked much better - more colour, more meaning, more immersive.
Also, the new station services icons are way too small, too flat, too similar.
I'm having to rely on the pop-up tool tips to tell me what the new icons are as they are not intuitive at all. Very poor design.
Please give an option to restore the old Neocom and station services icons.
You are forcing too many undesirable changes on us at once. We don't like it. This is our feedback. Please take this to heart.
You have an "Experimental Features" section for people to try out the new Map ... Please move the new UI into that section for a few months so you can get genuine feedback from the masses before pushing this awful UI on us.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
318
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:37:35 -
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I'm so mad the buttons changed from amorphous blobs to clearly defined, sharp and modern icons. I'm unsubbing my 32,768 accounts.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Embsi
Drunken Union of Monkeys Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:51:14 -
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Few issues, the icons are not instantly recognizable so it takes a very long time to find what I am looking for. UI is to far on on the simple side.
While the lighting might be new I don't think it looks any better, Anti-Aliasing does not appear to be working and everything is washed out. Kind of misgiving to call it realistic shading when it's the opposite of realistic, especially since light is extremely hard in space. This makes it look like there is an atmosphere thick with fog covering JUST the models.
Kind of reminds me of deferred rendering, great if you don't care what the game looks like on high res screens and you want it to play on your tablet... Otherwise.. Not so good. |
TheButcherPete
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
526
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:00:01 -
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Klapen wrote:TheButcherPete wrote:I can barely see the new chat blink, I'm running the "Dark Matter" theme so my stuff is black like it used to be. The flash is very subtle :( m8r wont be able to give you more contracts if you cant see my chat blinks :(((
It's ok m8)) I changed it to the Minmatar theme
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infinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:00:39 -
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So... will you will hopefully give ppl the option to change their UI back to the same comfy color as it used to have.. Cause i dont like these new changes..
Their morbit, dark and just plain annoying i get headaches having such a dark UI its hard to read on that hing.
Comon.. give ppl options not that lame crap.
I'll rather quit this stupid game.. than having to log in into morbit depressing UI.. That gives me migranes.. |
Derus Grobb
Iron Oxide Institute
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:00:49 -
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Love all of the changes apart from the ship skins.
I can see what you're trying to achieve but my Minmatar ships are more "plastic" than "rust".
Darker and dirtier please |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:03:52 -
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infinity wrote: I'll rather quit this stupid game.. than having to log in into morbit depressing UI.. That gives me migranes..
Bye!
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:04:54 -
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Orchid Fury wrote:Presidente Gallente wrote:Amarth X wrote:The only people who would find those icons and UI clearer, prettier or more user-friendly are designer types who only partially live in the real world. For ordinary humans, they are just dull, grey, boring and completely unintuitive. We don't want to be force fed this crap. Stop wasting time breaking things that weren't broken! Nothing is broken here. And nothing is crap here. The new icons are perfect. Easy to read and less distractive than the older ones. We are talking about Icons and nothing essential for the gameplay. The whole GUI is not so dominant anymore. When you have adapted to the icons they will become intuitive. It will just take a bit to adapt. no they are not, the icon design is horrible and unintuitive. i find myself looking for the same ones all the time. market, corp, ... only a few ones are intuitive and fitting like the browser and ship fitting screen. alot of it is due to the colour monotone. the icons need serious work.
Because it's new. That's the simple answer here. CCP made changes and many people are not able to deal with changes. Text is also looking the same all the time but when you start to read it it becomes sense. Same with the icons. Get familar with them how you got familar with the old icons. Beside that people have a different taste for design. Fair enough. I swear if we had the new icons before and now the old one we end up in a similar thread.
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LifeisagameCH Thellere
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:08:41 -
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Good update! Just this UI..
GIVE US BACK the non headcache version with Color Symbols please - We Mentioned that 1000 Times in the Thread for this but this will be sure ignored alike.. At least pull of that fading of active window and in the German Client you cant deactivate the Blur
Ps. Spare your "ohhhh" answers.. they so help nobody and just offend pepole is against the Rules too by the way mr ISD !!!! |
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Embsi
Drunken Union of Monkeys Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:16:55 -
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Presidente Gallente wrote: Because it's new. That's the simple answer here. CCP made changes and many people are not able to deal with changes. Text like here in this post/thread is also looking the same all the time but when you start to read it it becomes sense. Same with the icons. Get familar with them how you got familar with the old icons. If someone would completely change your GUI layout you would feel lost in the first minutes. Using a GUI is becoming intuitive when you get used to it like knowing where menues are or simply to the order of your icons. Beside that people have a different taste for design. Fair enough. I swear if we had the new icons before and now the old one we end up in a similar thread.
Thats not entirely truthful. I think people don't like them because they went from being art to not being art... At least that is how I feel about it.
Skillfully crafted icons > Simple icons.
Wow, imagine that. |
Gizan
Hounds Of War WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:20:00 -
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Absolutly garbage Ui.:
Cant see chat tabs blinking Cant really see how the tabs seperate, Default color is sh!t brown Cant tell what tooltips do what because there should be some color for quick refrence... Wish there was a way to turn down eves brightness or gama, or something so my eyes dont burn from it being so F'ing bright...
Seriously. give us an actual Video control section, where we can adjust video settings in the client.
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Fifth Blade
The Nyan Cat Pirates Disband.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:27:33 -
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Someone broke multi-sell.
- Quantity and price are now unlabelled and
- When you sell one stack they are vertically stacked.
https://i.imgur.com/TqsZRbn.png
You could easily make a sell order for 20b ore for 6 isk or 6 ore for 20b isk by mistake. |
Quadima
From Our Cold Dead Hands The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:30:15 -
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Windows 8 + 8.1 barely cracks 15% market share after more than 2 years since the introduction of new interface:
https://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/os_share_october_2014.png
And that is because it's being shoved in with every new computer / laptop. If it were just about people upgrading or choosing their OS at computer buy time, it wouldn't even made it to 5%. Even with all the improvements to speed, new devices support, etc.
WHY?
Because it's interface sucks, plain and simple ! And, similar to this thread, while there are various trolls claiming " It's great, it's fantastic, I love it "... MOST PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE IT.
The world is beautiful, colorful, alive, three-dimensional... our brains are adapted to that. These "modern" flattish ugly interface are an insult to our collective intellect.
Seriously, is there such a massive shortage of artists that everyone can only do monochrome pen and pencil designs ? Seesh ...
THIS IS REAL
This is NOT real (Scene from Equilibrium Movie)
Get a hint CCP ! |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:34:35 -
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Trip report: WASD controls are fun as hell. It definitely needs a chase cam, though.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
532
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:37:58 -
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Now that SP clones are history, can you remove the sec status penalty for shooting red pods in high-sec? :) |
Thirdsin
Intergalactic Fight Club Gentlemen's.Club
4
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:38:59 -
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Because i'm not reading 20 pages of replies, my apologies for the redundancy if it is one....
Are we fixing the fins on the huginn at lower graphics settings?
http://imgur.com/MiDUOrU |
Lucius Avenus
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
8
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:45:27 -
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Hi CCP!! o//
I dig you guys... and well... Amarr ships look really bad - @#%$ing terrible - on lower settings, but the red and gold amarr ships look absolutely amazing (so do Gallente ships - like wowowowowow!!) on high settings, but high is now unplayable for me (on a lower end PC). Highly impressive work on high settings though, and the Gallente ships look kinda cool in matt in lower settings. Although ti really do not like the ceramic look of the other non red and gold Amarr ships.
Nice work on high setting. Thank you very much. But eh Amarr ships on lower settings - truly hideous. Someone said he felt his Executioner was borked now. Tha's sad.
The minmatar ships look fine, on high or low settings, but really clumsy on mid settings, like mismatched. they look black and white, and not rusty or silvery at all. They look dark and grunty on low settings, and nice n rusty with nice silvery bits on high.
I love the map, it's quick to pop up, appreciated, - really... and it looks very, very promising - guess stats will come? Exciting feature.
I am neither here nor there about the UI, although I don't agree that the colourless UI makes buttons more easily recognisable. Buttons have their place so it's np. I like the blurry transparency, that's nice. I do feel sorry that bronies can't has pink and blue UIs no more. but maybe give em back RBG slider?
The white bands and the blacks blocks of neutral colour on the Caldari ships have #@%$ed them up and the Blackbird hull is #$#@. Looking at the hull in game is another thing. i dislike it more than the old hull in fact. I want it to look like Caldari, not like some Mordus bewhiskered hybrid. I know there's a connection there to Mordus with Caldari but idk, looks more Mordus than Caldari because of the whiskers thingo.
Are all new ships going to have a whiskers habit as badly as many have a drone habit?
I am super super super disappointed by the changes to Caldari colour schemes on ships, it's a bit like painting the gold and blue on orcas, exhumers and hulks a while back, when they are indy ships, and are just work horses, not dandies. The Venture and the Bowhead have it right, in fact the Venture is spot on since Rhea, kinda grubby looking, very nice. The Vent. and Bow. are painted indy, and look the part.
The large bands of white and black on Caldari ships is extremely unlikable. Like the indies mentioned above, they were fine without a new paint job, and the paint job just covers a nice texture to the gray metal. I am mystified - like really - by this poor work compared to the excellence of other racial ships, and on any setting, too.
Why do such a crap job on Caldari ships?
The white lines need to be thinner, more concise, show an angular attribute, not be sloppy and they look really dirty. The white and black just fill a space, they do not have any conciseness and design in and of themselves. Like, the Kestrel is idk... confused? It would look better pink! And the Tayra, oh pls, those bands of white noooooo!!! The Rokh has a nice balance of this added white cos the lines are tight, and it is minimal, like Caldari design. Raven looks alright, but again the white and black are just filling a space, and it's lazy.. The battleships are uninspired, but the frigs dessies and the cruisers er crappy... WHHHHHHY?! Amateur paint jobs. Sorry but far out.
Caldari ships were super nicely balanced in terms of shades of gray before. The texture of the metal is really nice, why hide all that with slapped on white bands and blocks of black? The grey shading worked.
I've never been so impressed by devs, and re: an EVE release, I have ever felt so much admiration for what is done superbly. When I look at old screens of EVE, I go Jesus, this game's come along way - how well loved it is!! You guys add wonderfully, meaningfully, to a game that I love more and more each day. There are some things I didn't understand, like fatigue, but I see it's been a good thing (and I've learnt a lot about being blown dafaq up :) ). and it is good.
Truly, thanks for everything!! o7 |
Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
150
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:48:12 -
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Embsi wrote:Presidente Gallente wrote: Because it's new. That's the simple answer here. CCP made changes and many people are not able to deal with changes. Text like here in this post/thread is also looking the same all the time but when you start to read it it becomes sense. Same with the icons. Get familar with them how you got familar with the old icons. If someone would completely change your GUI layout you would feel lost in the first minutes. Using a GUI is becoming intuitive when you get used to it like knowing where menues are or simply to the order of your icons. Beside that people have a different taste for design. Fair enough. I swear if we had the new icons before and now the old one we end up in a similar thread.
Thats not entirely truthful. I think people don't like them because they went from being art to not being art... At least that is how I feel about it. Skillfully crafted icons > Simple icons. Wow, imagine that.
The actual design is to me a classic icon design. For instance street signs have a plain design with a limited range of signal colors like red, yellow, blue. The main icons are mainly black on white (here in Germany). I don't understand the issue people have with the new, much better icons. They are all easy to read and the whole GUI is much better for the main gamplay. |
Heinrich Rotwang
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.12.10 01:55:10 -
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Don't know if that has already pointed out, but besides a lot of ships looking like untextured models with only normal mapping applied, the advertised ship paintshops in the AUR store look completely different from how they are actually rendered by the new (broken?) render engine in space. Eg. the Wiyrkomi has lost it's camoish look and turned in a flat green. You can still get the real look if you click the picture tho. But as spend real money on that eye candy, maybe it is not completely irrelevant the new renderer is messing with colors. Like for instance im ordering a blue car and I'm getting a green one. |
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