94h since last login...
hey look no patch today, hmm no info on when u can switch back to the old icons so i can play again...

i check back in tomorrow again, i guess i... well its National Day here today so i guess i celebrate it

The old icons are still in the game, i just saw a Guristas shuttle and it still uses the old icon. Reverting is easy, let us have the old icons while you work on fixing the new ones.

Rats inside ghost sites are still red crosses.

Just logged in - no patch - same worthless, pathetic "new and improved" icons - same disdain and callous disregard from CCP for the players. Logged back out in frustration. Time to start paring down the alt accounts. That seems to be the only thing this bunch will take notice of. Very sad - I don't think even Blizzard is this bad....

Very sad - I don't think even Blizzard is this bad....

Indeed, CSM, where are you ? Funny, each time there is a true crisis between the players and CCP, the CSM disappears
Won't you help us have the option to choose between the old and the new icons, just like the map ? Is it too much asking ?

I would like to suggest swapping the "Agent in Space" icon and the "Beacon" icon.

Incarna 1.0 ( 2011-06-21 ) : Turret icons now correctly represent the look of the turret.

* five months later... *

Crucible 1.0 ( 2011-11-29 ) : It was difficult to distinguish between fitted turrets on ships with the new turret icons. Until new icons have been made the old icons are being re-introduced into the user interface.

Incarna 1.0 ( 2011-06-21 ) : The station hangar has been replaced with Captain's Quarters. Capsuleers can now, for the first time, step out of their pod and stretch their legs in their personal quarters.

* four months later... *

Incarna 1.1.2 ( 2011-10-18 ) : The station hangar is returning with all of its previous functionality.

~ ~ ~
And of course, it took a few other sub-patches until everybody got a fix to keep memorizing client settings to STAY in hangar for everyone. Even then, it took until June 2012 for Inferno 1.1 to really appreciate Captain's quarters for those who wanted to try them out due to:
The memory usage of the main screen in Captains Quarters has been improved.

Let us do a lesson in Eve history c:


But now... how much does the game and it's participants need to suffer before we face another apology of CCP Hellmar and the resulting consequences?

You know... I just want to play Eve but... it gets more and more difficult at heart ... :C

Unfortunately, they're worse. But coming back to EVE/CCP, it's only been a Monday. There does need to be a meeting on removing or reworking this change. But they should have enough of a response by now to determine the playerbase feeling on it.

Just because they eventually stop complaining after such a strong response doesn't automatically mean they've accepted it. It likely means that they're giving up on working with CCP and moving away from EVE.

One reasonably only bangs their head against a non-responsive door for so long.

I really do not get why you even have a test server and a feedback forum if you are going to ignore it entirely. Bad show. On the other hand, whomever is in charge of the new map is exceptionally foresighted and at least no so arrogant as to shove un-wanted change down the throats of players.

CCP Seagull was involved in making probing a better thing and also announced the increased update schedule of Eve online that was apparently a decision of the entire board. Here I I got wary of how this is would be turning out. The idea to bring more fresh content faster is one thing, but pretty much everybody knows that quantity doesn't mean quality.
More updates means more expectations from players. Faster work on content means less quality testing and less bugs being fixed. Other developers have displayed these issues in great failures. I was worried that CCP would make the same mistake.

Still don;t get the issue with the new icons, i ran a sleeper site last night had had no issues figuring out what was what. But i guess change scares people. meh

I'm also curious to hear more from, and maybe wasn't aware of how many users played with a 90% downscaled UI (as opposed to scaling up for accessibility reasons.) What are your reasons for doing so?

When I am in space and have a local, other chats, D-scan, overview, cargo, drones, and overview on my screen I can't see space at 100%, or my windows get resized to be too small to see what I want to see, at 90% I feel like I have a cluttered but mostly alright view

90%: http://i.imgur.com/WYeAaWi.jpg
100%: http://i.imgur.com/4uzetyb.jpg

I didn't completely finish lining up everything on the 100% example. the cargo overlaps the 8th turret slot, and the local chat box is covered. I also forogt the d-scan window, but at 90% it kinda fits in with the chat boxes, at 100% it just blocks the view. I could also see putting it above the targeted items next to the overview, but then that might limit ability to drag targets to different rows.

GÇô Why donGÇÖt you use ISIS icon set for ships? A lot of new bros are using ISIS and feel familiar with it.
GÇô New icons are mostly fine. Though become unreadable when the whole overview is targeting (locking) your ship. You might think of new target lock bracket.