Of course we would, stop being ridiculous. It's these types of comments that make you "grr goons" types such a laughing stock.

Of course it matters, because the game is supposed to be entertaining for both sides. That's the #1 goal of sov. It's not currently because most of the players engaging in the mechanics are harassers because it's the absolute best choice. It's easy, low risk and difficult to prevent. That's why you like it.

I'd love to see that happening. FA proved beyond doubt that I am right in my assertion, and SMA is not better than FA.

Please do not forget that I am also part of a sov holding alliance. So far, I have been able to deal with the ceptors that came to our space. Most of them, however, were accompanied by a proper fleet.

I'd love to see that happening. FA proved beyond doubt that I am right in my assertion, and SMA is not better than FA.

Please do not forget that I am also part of a sov holding alliance. So far, I have been able to deal with the ceptors that came to our space. Most of them, however, were accompanied by a proper fleet.

Please do not forget that I am also part of a sov holding alliance. So far, I have been able to deal with the ceptors that came to our space. Most of them, however, were accompanied by a proper fleet.

ill say it again make fozziesov a mesh between structure and elink grind.

make it so you use the elink to reinforce the 1st time then you have to use elinks for the 1st capture event.

this then would cause the second reinforce which would then disable the shields and allow the structure to be shoot at.

so now you can put your capitals to work and attack the structure...

but even though the structure is vulnerable you can also choose to capture the annoms spread throughout the consultation.

So no you have a b-r type situation where you have your capital fight over the structure and then a bunch of sub cap fights over the capture annoms.

And yet here you all are moaning

rabble rabble

You are missing the point of what people are highlighting as the issue. The issue is not FozzieSov itsself, with some tweaks and fine tuning the system can work great. What the problem is, and stated countless times previously, the ability to harass/troll sovereignty with no risk/punishment mechanism.

The point is, it's all about server lag, spreading people out, and still managing to make it worthwhile and fun. The harassment argument is based on a false premise of large holdings, which begs still more sticks, maybe still smaller and smaller, but sticks they will be.

Speaking hypothetically regarding a node event and an attacking force consisting of 300 troll ceptors (as I stated a few comments back):

That gang just Entosis'd every system in a region, and let's say they had a ~50% success rate. Now the nodes pop up - the defenders can only focus on so many nodes at one time. The attackers send one troll ceptor to each node for each system. Can you see where I am going with this? I do not feel like having to type out every cause/effect that would result.

Because it is too hard to respond with a single Kitsune per system.

Because it is too hard to respond with a single Kitsune per system. Now it doesn't matter if they have 300 trollceptors. You just have to break more locks per entosis cycle than they have trollceptors. One Kitsune can easily serve ECM dish to 10+ trollceptors without trying.

Takes gewns to keep crying about it though, because getting one Kitsune per system is apparently too much to ask from a 40k accounts coalition.

CCP stay strong and roll back the 4k limit. Trollceptors are only a problem for people who bit more than they can chew, don't enable them. Any system occupied with a non-bot capable of undocking... hell, even Procurer can deal with Trollceptor, so basically anything goes - is immune to trollceptor.

Ok so you somehow manage to get an 'x' amount of players to fit out and fly Kitsunes, great first leap. So you manage to get said Kitsunes to attacked system, great second step. Now you jam out one interceptor... what happens next? You break the lock and move to the next one? Once you move to the next one the previous interceptor has started his Entosis back up. How long is this going to last, ping ponging back and forth between attackers? Answer: Not long before a couple decide to gang up and remove you from the equation. Also, there are some mid slots on those interceptors that probably wouldn't be bad for fitting ECCM.

Back to the drawing board, sir.

I am super smart at spaceships

Goal #1: As much as possible, ensure that the process of fighting over a star system is enjoyable and fascinating for all the players involved

Because everyone has caldari frigate lvl 5 + electronic attack frigate + ewar skills right?
No.

A Griffin is more than sufficient and ECM Skills are quickly trained. Besides, these days the focus of many newbie friendly groups lies within making them fly Ewar ships. such as Griffins. Just looking at BRAVE, their numbers must go in the thousands overall by now.

As if fighting hundreds of people under Tidi in one system was much more fun. How were the general reaction during and after every big fight? #soulcrushingtidi, wasn't it?

Besides, if you really despise ceptors so much, bring proper fleets in the first place and resist the temptation of easy gameplay just because it is possible. Your lot constantly preaches to haulers and miners in High sec that they should put more effort into their tasks, yet you refuse to put more effort into your tasks just because easier ways are available. Set an example. Show how much more fun it can be with fleets. This won't remove troll ceptors for people who have nothing better to do, but encourages others on the lookout for interesting fights to actually provide the basis for them. But it is the effort that you cannot stand, isn't it?

People who complain about it all the time. It is not like there are not other ways available, but they are not as convenient. And convenience is all that matters these day. The limited mindset of people like you sickens me.
However, as said, in EVE, it's either the way of the least resistance (until its abuse forces the removal of it) or the extreme exhaustion of any mechanic (until it's nerfed so much that it's not viable anymore and nearly completely removed). This won't change even if Ceptors were removed from the equation. Next will be cruisers that blap ceptors and other tackle of the field and zoom around at 4k, uncatchable and unbeatable. What then? Gate camps? They just burn back to the gate and do it elsewhere.

As if fighting hundreds of people under Tidi in one system was much more fun. How were the general reaction during and after every big fight? #soulcrushingtidi, wasn't it?

No, because I have not yet been contested in a way that would require it. It was either no contest at all (so ceptors to quickly get the job done were sufficient) or so much opposition that no linking was possible in the first place (as described before).

Besides, I do not complain about the ceptors. I do not see me in need of setting an example.


They are not. As described by many people on previous pages. You should read them before you comment.

Why are the only two options solo interceptors v. griffins and 2000 people in massive tidi?