What the hell. Blasters benefit as much (if not more) from tracking enhancers as Projectiles. They're not sidelined, buff them even more and they're going to be the next FOTM. The only issue is with armor vs. shield tanking - shield tanked Gallente ships are really really good, while armor tanked ones fall flat because of lol-brawl range (Edit: and that goes for projectiles too)

Except for the Hype because it's a damn fun boat.

Confirming that Gallente ships are terrible.

Confirming the gang ElChocolo et al. are running with is pretty good. These days, you can stuff a 1600 AND neutrons on a Deimos and it cooks at 1500m/s at least. Its every Deimos pilot's dream come true.

You have uber webs on the Ashimmu, with neuting. So you've got tackle and cap warfare sorted. A couple of logis for tanking because, luls, they will primary the Deimos so their pants don't fill up first and jam their F1 keys - i mean, tanking 2 Deimos's isn't easy. Stabber fleet for bait/tackle and sig tanking.

That's a pretty nice gang. You're all jelly, forum alts, because you haven't figured out how to run decent gangs.

confirming that youre still a goddamn troll

I hate to use profanity, but you, sir, are a moron.

With 115 m/s base speed and 900 m/s mwd, before plates and trimark, plus major agility problems, Hyperion is nowhere close to the speed of HACs and BCs in a small gang.

There is one BS that can keep up with the BC/HACs in a small gang, it's called a nano phon, look it up.

And lulz @ Brutix.

You really don't have a clue, do you. :( The point is that we are roaming, not station/gate camping. Roaming is what a large portion of Eve does. It really saddens me that people just don't get the big picture.

confirming that youre still a goddamn troll

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Hera+Darkthorn

Just browse through it a little. You'll notice the talos is used quite a bit, and it never has a web.

I don't understand why people always talk so much thoerycraft. I understand using it to theorize about a battle, so that you can make the most educated guess on how to win, but some of you seem to think the more you argue about what you believe, the more people are going to listen. Show us something that states what you're trying to say. Nobody is going to take the things you say seriously otherwise.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14869204

it hits like a mega , with no drones ,no nuet and sheild tanked has no ewar apart from a point.

you could kill a sheild tanked one with a rifter.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14869204

it hits like a mega , with no drones ,no nuet and sheild tanked has no ewar apart from a point.

you could kill a sheild tanked one with a rifter.

I beg to differ. Check my history and you'll see that I use gallente ships most months, but to do so I have to go looking for fights pretty much on my own or in very small groups. All the other kills generally come from fleets where there is no room for gallente ships, either rail or blaster fitted. I repeat, you are arguing that a significant portion of the playerbase are expected to play with a minority and niche weapon system. This is neither balanced nor sensible, nor are you in your opinions.

I have a shield tanked Talos in Amamake. I'll be online tonight and you can come try your luck. :)

-Liang

ahh ok

I just jump cloned for nowt / sigh

ALL WE WANT IS A FEW FLEET SHIPS!!!! .... IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK?

What the hell. Blasters benefit as much (if not more) from tracking enhancers as Projectiles. They're not sidelined, buff them even more and they're going to be the next FOTM. The only issue is with armor vs. shield tanking - shield tanked Gallente ships are really really good, while armor tanked ones fall flat because of lol-brawl range (Edit: and that goes for projectiles too)

Except for the Hype because it's a damn fun boat.

lol cmon man you got 4 gallente ships in a 9 man fleet in the killmail and one is a logi and one died because his blasters forced him into range so he can be tackled back most likely causing the loss .... far cry from a gallente fleet and it was not a victory for gallente in the least. take a 20-30 man fleet of 90% gallente ships and beat an equal blob of drakes or canes or something and then you might be able to try and pass those off as any kind of proof or representation of gallente in general. and i think we both know that is not going to happen until railguns are better or equal to arties. blasters will never be a fleet weapon as long as their range remains where it is at.

Honestly are all you guys trolling or what? rofl i have never seen so much pathetic examples or claims that are so easily contradicted in my life anywhere.. either all you guys saying that gallente are all right are all trolling or you have some monetary(isk) reason for the influence you are trying to push on here. im guessing its a combination of both or maybe its just you guys all were apparently dropped on your heads as babies .... and are complete e-tards.

anyhow feel free to keep trying to say gallente is fine and i will be there to tell you that you are wrong and a moron and prove it to you in a variety of diffrent ways. Gallente is broken as a race in this game .... BROKEN. and it needs to be fixed.

with that being said i applaud the efforts of anyone attempting to pvp in gang scenario's with a majority of gallente ships as it adds much needed diversity to the pvp in this game and shows skill for overcoming the obvious drawbacks of gallente.

I actually don't think Gallente ships are so terrible now. Just the arguments here seem terrible. (I think they're still slightly too niche though.)
Such as the last link. Tornadoes that are terribly fit for smaller brawlers suck against smaller brawlers. News at 11.

I actually don't think Gallente ships are so terrible now. Just the arguments here seem terrible. (I think they're still slightly too niche though.)
Such as the last link. Tornadoes that are terribly fit for smaller brawlers suck against smaller brawlers. News at 11.

You'll notice that all of the ships are using short range guns. Thus, all the Gallente are fighting at brawling range. The Ashimuu could just as easily be replaced Vigilants. We've already gon over why the SFI is there. As far as my claims. All I've done so far is post actual results while you and yours have only been able to say "LOL YOU TROLL" without bringing any actual argument to your side that was anything more than theory crafting. Results > EFTWhoring. However, I applaud your efforts to claim I am wrong by virtue of "LOLTROLL".

Feel free to keep crying troll and we will continue to show results, actual results and not eftcrafting. I'm sure that those who actually play the game will take results over "LOLTROLL"ing.

Gallente is a viable option for fleets. Even armor Gallente. As you can see by our one loss, we are armor tanking them against "OMGWTFOPMINMATAR" and winning. We are catching "nano" fleets by out flying them and out smarting them. Minmatar is not OP. Gallente is not terribad. Terrible players who fly terribly in Gallente are terrible. It's unfortunately that in today's day and age of "I deserve everything", people would rather scream for the game to be made easier than to actually learn to play it on a level above the terrible trolls.

Undock and fly crazy. You never know, you might just cease being terrible.

Rambling

and the fact that gallente ships only represent about 5% of the active pvp ships as per the statistics in eve says a little more then ... gallente isnt terribad or learn to fly your ship nonsense.....