This is why I consider them to be unbalanced, and not because I can only use one and not the other. In truth, I'm cross-skilled equally to fly Gallente and Minmatar, and to use T2 hybrids and T2 projectiles. I really have no personal preference whether I get popped in my AC 'Cane or my blaster Brutix (although I do hate missiles and Caldari... please nerf that **** Drake already!).

I just find it hard to believe anything from people who won't post with their mains so that people can see if they are being truthful or not. So, until you do post with your main, I won't take anything you say seriously, or any of your claims seriously. A lot of people feel that way. Alts are a way to hide truths when posting on forums.

Post with your main, be internet brave, it's not like it costs you anything. Except maybe your dignity if you aren't what you say your are. Of course, then i wouldn't expect you to post with your main. Just continue arguing on an alt that nobody can take seriously.

why do you want to nerf poormatar?:O

Oh hai, it's Naomi Knight. ***** of Eve-O. Everyone gets her attention, and it's usually filthy and hard to scrub away!

Yah. that was a useless post for the sake of insulting. Considering who it was aimed towards though, I believe it was completely worth it. She reminds me of... oh what's his name... jojo or something that used to ***** around all the Eve O threads wanting to nerf Gallente.

Edit: I almost forgot. LOL at changing ammo. While the Minmatar player is taking 10 seconds to change ammo, you are continuing to shoot him. Say you are doing 600 dps. That's 6000 damage while he changes ammo. (of course reduce that for whatever things like resists, etc, but it still works out to you jamming them for 10 seconds compared to your 5 second reload time) and even MORE LOL at changing ammo just because you went through shields into armor. ACs go through insane amounts of ammo, most pilots only carry emp and barrage.

I just find it hard to believe anything from people who won't post with their mains so that people can see if they are being truthful or not. So, until you do post with your main, I won't take anything you say seriously, or any of your claims seriously. A lot of people feel that way. Alts are a way to hide truths when posting on forums.

Post with your main, be internet brave, it's not like it costs you anything. Except maybe your dignity if you aren't what you say your are. Of course, then i wouldn't expect you to post with your main. Just continue arguing on an alt that nobody can take seriously.

Personal choice, that's all. I choose not to use my real life name, either, although I don't have anything to hide.

It is entirely up to you whether you take the contents of my posts seriously or not. They are not intended solely for your benefit, so it doesn't really matter either way.

Unless I'm mistaken, changing ammo takes just as long as reloading the current ammo - so, you can switch ammo types roughly about the same time you'd need to reload anyways, with very little loss - if any - in DPS. And, as you pointed out, hybrids need to reload, too. So, the reload advantage to hybrids is 5 sec, irregardless if you change ammo types or not.

Yes, you are mistaken. 10 seconds of not firing your guns is a significant drop in dps.

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Does reloading the same ammo, when your guns run dry, take the same amount of time as swapping to a different ammo type? Projectiles do not have a zero reload time.

... in a typical fight, you don't run out of ammo before you or the person you are fighting dies. Unless you are fighting more than one person or they are using an active tank.

Interesting statement.

So, you are stating that you never (or rarely) need to reload your guns during a typical fight? Hmm.... well, I can't accuse you of exaggerating, since it is theoretically possible. I usually go through a fair amount of ammo and a number of reloads, unless I'm popping a frig with a BC, or something like.

As for fighting more than one person, yeah... that seems to happen a lot to me. I don't encounter many 1v1 situations for some reason.

Active tank... seen more than a few of these around, too. But, buffer tanks aren't all that easy to chew through, either, with a single load of ammo. And, passively-tanked Drakes are a nightmare (I hate those ships).

this discussion has gotten really stupid.

i think the reality is that there isnt really a reason to fly anything else except Canes, Drakes, Baddons and Tornados as things stand right now. blaster boats have a place in small gang pvp, but who cares? Gallente need a fleet-viable boat. medium rails need serious tweaking because there's no reason the Deimos or Eagle shouldnt be able to do what the Zealot can.

so maybe like 50-100 people?

You know what system had the most kills in Eve since 2007? Amamake.

You know what happens there? Small gang combat.

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-Liang

You know what system had the most pod kills in Eve since 2007? Rancer!

You know what happens there?? Veeery small ship gang combat!! (mostly pods, noobships, and T1 frigs)

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- Captain Nares

So, you are stating that you never (or rarely) need to reload your guns during a typical fight? Hmm.... well, I can't accuse you of exaggerating, since it is theoretically possible. I usually go through a fair amount of ammo and a number of reloads, unless I'm popping a frig with a BC, or something like.

Well, back to some lucid discussion on this last page finally.

And for what it is woth, I find medium raills to be ok now. Not as good as other options, but not completely laughable. For small gangs, a 200mm rail thorax with a TC, long point and armor tank resist/active rep, magstab and nano isnt a bad option. I dont have eft here, but i think it goes 1700-ish and does 300ish dps with light drones out to long point range. My current one has gotten kills in 5 engagements now, which is unheard of for any of my previous blaster thorax. Could probably shield tank it and put a te in the lows, but I havent tried that version yet. Thie rail fitting requirements are still crap though.

And honestly, the 5 second ammo swap time is probably the biggest buff we got in the latest patch. Its not huge, but it has come in handy a number of times for me.

"Gotten kills" is hardly any indication of effectiveness. All you had to do is shoot something to get on km, doesn't matter if all it did was scratching the paint, which is all med rails are good for. I suspect, as usual, it's the canes in the gang doing the heavy lifting.

Hybrids are awesome

History Son!:

Serious question. What would happen if CCP increased medium and larger blaster range? Everything else would remain the same. CCP just decided to introduce a significant increase to tracking computers. The values would be close to autocannons in terms or projected and applied damage, but with a balance of optimal and falloff. Min ships would still be more mobile and Gal would still be able to use armour. This is what pulse lasers are able to do @ the moment, but alot more viable. Being able to kite a single Gal ship would become very difficult, if not impossible and Min would still be able to disengage.