They can but why should i use a Ford if i can use a porsche ?

They lack something. Namely support

Shield tanked Brutix has 0 free High slots, 0 free med slots for any kind of support. No neutralizers, No e-war.

How is this different from a shield tanked Vaga, or a shield tanked Drake, or basically a shield tanked anything? (Okay, you can argue that the Vaga has a neut which the Brutix doesn't, but the Brutix gets more dronespace)

you are dumb as always... nothing new this year :(

How is this different from a shield tanked Vaga, or a shield tanked Drake, or basically a shield tanked anything? (Okay, you can argue that the Vaga has a neut which the Brutix doesn't, but the Brutix gets more dronespace)

oh god, another one of these threads

Blasters are good, individual Gallente ships could still use some tweaking. Re-work the bonuses on ships like the Brutix/Hype, and the fittings on ships like the Deimos, and you're all set.

Rework the Brutix, sure, but the Hype is actually really good. :(

-Liang

Very much this.

The hype is one of the more underrated hulls.

Depends on what you are doing with it.

Its NOT a fleet hull, it can't be with that slot layout on reliance on blasters. Its a MEAN somebitch when you put it in a small gang environment. Something that the Baddon and Mael suck at.

It's a big fat slowboat BS without 90% webs trying to hit small stuff with large guns. What role does it have in "small gang" other than station games? BS as a class is lol in small gang those days. It's crap compared to a real small gang boat in anything.

Confirming that Gallente ships are terrible.

Edit: Eve is breaking my link.

http://www.rancyin.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12044744

Wtf is with these forums, you have to copy and paste or it won't work. Eve Forums FTL.

Confirming that a ****** fleet filled with fail fits with no context or circumstances provided going up against T2, Faction and Pirate Faction Ships are a good measure of what what a race can do.

I don't know perhaps that purger rigged Hurricane, T1 fit beam Harb, and T1 gunned Thrasher are all part of a Super Secret PvP setup. I am interested to know how they planned to use that survey scanner.

I mean perhaps I am further mistaken when I noticed that the defeated side is from a virtually unknown Alliance with less kills combined then I have (Which isn't much ) and more then twice as many losses as they have kills. Maybe a fact made worse when the other fleet was made up of Veto Corp, Rooks and Kings, Pandemic Legion, oh and you were there. o/

So ElCholo well you were kicking this unknown Alliances Fail Fleet with a combo of pretty prominent PvP Groups in rather expensive ships is that when you realized that these good folks truly represent the best PvP opposition to your fleet? They must have put on one impressive performance I dare say. As Survey Scanning Harbingers are well known to do.

Edit/ Know what, I know I suck at PvP but I am just gonna take a moment and pat myself on the back for being single handedly better then this entire Shadow of Honor Alliance. Thanks EnCholo that was a much needed ego boost.

You don't see that they had twice that number and carrier support... because we didn't lose anything. Troll on fail troll. :)

And you pointed out another good thing. You are right, we are a skilled group. Going against folks like the EFT trolls in this forum who say that Gallente aren't good. We are proving that competent pilots in Gallente ships are capable of taking on the crap drake and minmatar blobs out there.

Where did I troll. All I have is your word that they had that and for all I know you could have had more Logi's. Your Confirming, confirms nothing. The Irony.


Anyone is capable of taking out crap fit fleets flown by pilots who don't know what they are doing but Ok.

I guess you proved me wrong taking out those elite PvP'ers with your humble fleet. Balance should always be decided in a contest between the best PvP'ers and the worst.

That's the funny part. I'm far from the best. I'm about average. I just PvP more than I complain on the forums. I'm trying to show people on the forums that if they would pvp more and complain less, that they could get good fights too. And they would also see that all ships are good, you just have to come up with a good fleet for them, instead of expecting them to all do the same thing in the same way.

That's the funny part. I'm far from the best. I'm about average. I just PvP more than I complain on the forums. I'm trying to show people on the forums that if they would pvp more and complain less, that they could get good fights too. And they would also see that all ships are good, you just have to come up with a good fleet for them, instead of expecting them to all do the same thing in the same way.

And that's where you begin to miss the point. These ships are already agreed as being good at station/gate camping and if they can be dropped at zero in a relatively small engagement. But that's less than 5% of eve. For 25% of the player base who are Gallente, and for however many of the Caldari pilots that have discovered they have turret ships too. Why should the weapon systems of choice for such a significant part of the players be sidelined?

Its got 5 mids with a shield tank and a scram its as fast as a brutix, if you can't figure that out I can't help you.

http://www.rancyin.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12045666

Another good one where we were outnumbered. Both sides were taking sentry fire due to terrible planning on targets called. However, Gallente isn't terrible. Blasters aren't terrible. :) It's players that are terrible.

Edit: Of course you can't see we were out numbered since we haven't lost anything. *shrug* I'm pretty sure nobody wants to die just to get both sides of the story.

You really don't have a clue, do you. :( The point is that we are roaming, not station/gate camping. Roaming is what a large portion of Eve does. It really saddens me that people just don't get the big picture.

You really don't have a clue, do you. :( The point is that we are roaming, not station/gate camping. Roaming is what a large portion of Eve does. It really saddens me that people just don't get the big picture.

What we are doing is proving that Gallente can best other fleets by flying competent and cohesive setups.

Anything competent and cohesive will best those fleet you were fighting.
You sound an awful lot like the guy who was arguing Armor-EWar-HAM Drake was viable based on the reasoning that somewhere, sometime, somehow... it might not die horribly.

And that's where you begin to miss the point. These ships are already agreed as being good at station/gate camping and if they can be dropped at zero in a relatively small engagement. But that's less than 5% of eve. For 25% of the player base who are Gallente, and for however many of the Caldari pilots that have discovered they have turret ships too. Why should the weapon systems of choice for such a significant part of the players be sidelined?

And that's where you begin to miss the point. These ships are already agreed as being good at station/gate camping and if they can be dropped at zero in a relatively small engagement. But that's less than 5% of eve. For 25% of the player base who are Gallente, and for however many of the Caldari pilots that have discovered they have turret ships too. Why should the weapon systems of choice for such a significant part of the players be sidelined?