so you started to learn basic pvp , nice ^^
have fun with it

Diemost with 2 nanos = 2km/s (post "buff," that is). Vega with same 2 nanos = 3km/s. Diemost with 2 range mods and null = almost zero dps at 27-32km point range. Vega with same 2 range mods = 85% dps at point range.

You embarrass yourself.

On a more serious note, you've got to be really out of touch to keep pretending gallante and hybrids work. Undock once in a while.

lol

hmm i still dont know why i should know who are u... that Mfumae never enlightened me :(

Just somebody who plays the game instead of making stuff up on the forums m8

It'll take a while for people to adapt but I honestly believe we'll be seeing a lot less hurricanes flying around in 2-3 months.

No we won't.

Hurricanes can role with 2x Neuts, Selectable Dmg Types, Great Range and Great Speed. It's 2x DPS Bonus makes the thing an absolutely brutal DPS Pump more so with the new Hail Ammo. The Duel Neuts are absolutely incredible. It also see's use as a fleet ship, with it's 60k EHP 720mm Whelp Fits.

No Gallente Battlecruiser has this kind of Field Control or Utility of use. The Brutix is slow and vulnerable to Nuets and can't Nuet back as well as has no web in the Shield Fit and no Speed in the Armor Fit. The Myrmidon has a tiny bit more DPS if you fit it with Hybrids but has always been a slow close range brawler that does not scale well in active fits. She won't be nipping at the Canes heels yet.

The Hybrid Buff was good but it is not pushing the Powerhouse of the Cane or Drake for that matter off of any field. They both can do things that Blasters can not and what they can do is more in demand.

I think its worth mentioning that both of the BC sized blaster platforms are Tier 1 - and thus we wouldn't realistically expect them to be competitive with the Cane or Drake. Basically: if you're trying to determine whether medium blasters are balanced, you need to be comparing the Brutix to the Cyclone. The question you need to be answering is this: Does the cyclone fulfill the close range DPS role better than the Brutix?

The answer to that question is No.

-Liang

the cyclone wipes the floor with the brutix; its tank is multifold better, and it has better damage projection.

and trust me, you wont be seeing more hybrid boats. i havent seen a single successful "hybrid" gang across all FW militias since Crucible hit.

When I saw in the Crucible patch notes, how they made Gallante boats all slightly faster, I laughed... then cried... then laughed again.

You really do need to get a life you clueless miserable monkey.

the cyclone wipes the floor with the brutix; its tank is multifold better, and it has better damage projection.

and trust me, you wont be seeing more hybrid boats. i havent seen a single successful "hybrid" gang across all FW militias since Crucible hit.

Hurricanes can role with 2x Neuts, Selectable Dmg Types, Great Range and Great Speed. It's 2x DPS Bonus makes the thing an absolutely brutal DPS Pump more so with the new Hail Ammo. The Duel Neuts are absolutely incredible. It also see's use as a fleet ship, with it's 60k EHP 720mm Whelp Fits.

No Gallente Battlecruiser has this kind of Field Control or Utility of use. The Brutix is slow and vulnerable to Nuets and can't Nuet back as well as has no web in the Shield Fit and no Speed in the Armor Fit. The Myrmidon has a tiny bit more DPS if you fit it with Hybrids but has always been a slow close range brawler that does not scale well in active fits. She won't be nipping at the Canes heels yet.

The Hybrid Buff was good but it is not pushing the Powerhouse of the Cane or Drake for that matter off of any field. They both can do things that Blasters can not and what they can do is more in demand.

I am not comparing Tiers because it is not relevant to the state of Current Balance. It is however a major factor causing imbalance. The question is in what form would a Tierless Brutix take that could rattle the Canes Cage take?

Do you think there will ever be a viable Gallente Fleet Warship is another question worth asking? Do you think CCP could find a way to allow any Gallente Ship to be the center of a BC Fleet in the same way the Drake and Cane can? The reason I wonder this is that since Blasters can not role at Scorch Ranges and Artillery has a much more brutal Alpha then Rails. Rails have enough difficulty competing, add the poor Tank to DPS Ratio on on Gal Battlships with that and it makes things worse for any large fleet hopes.

I just took a look at that. So from what I'm seeing, your standard shield brutix with Null will outdamage your average max gank Cyclone out to 16.5km, and resume the damage superiority at 20km where the Cyclone's HAMs stop working. Also, it seems pretty interesting to comment on blasters working in FW blobs. They haven't ever worked in blobs and I don't really expect them to start working in blobs.

-Liang

Too much EFT. With blasters being what it is, brutix does almost no dps at point range, even with null. Cyclone will kite it until it dies. Undock once in a while.

I undock all the time in blaster ships. How about you?

-Liang

Too much EFT. With blasters being what it is, brutix does almost no dps at point range, even with null. Cyclone will kite it until it dies. Undock once in a while.

You are an idiot and I am now unable to read anything else that you post. I'm afraid if I read anything else from you then I will catch the stupids.

On behalf of all Winmatar pilots: Where do you fly?

People are confusing the metagame issue with the Hybrid issue. The only reason blasters feel "left behind" are because of the current metagame existing in game - bring more than the other guys and always have backup ready. And if something goes really wrong, hey, drop a capital.

This is bad for ships which have to fully commit to a fight and have to fight in full tackle range, i.e. Gallente. Couple this with the fact that armor tanking slows you down, makes you less agile, and takes up slots for range enhancing mods (tracking enhancers) and you'll see that Gallente is the race which hasn't aged together with Eve very well.

Honestly, I believe Blasters themselves are fine now. The issue boils down to Armor vs. Shield tanking, with Shield tanking being so vastly superior to armor tanking that it has become the norm in 0.0 solo and small gang PvP. Balance Armor vs Shield, and Gallente should be fully viable again (as long as you realize you'll still be fighting in full tackle range). You can't really change the metagame though - most people are risk averse and will not fight unless vastly outnumbering their opponents or by bringing in Falcons and Logistics.