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Alerce
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:00:00 -
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one of the biggest problems is however with the fighting complexes is the low quality of the alloys being dropped by drones that do more damage then the ordinary rat belts and even if you salvage them, they barely drop
That is one reason its hardly worth it.
Other reason might be, that the socalled cruiser sized drones, show up as frigs and bigger sized drones show maybe up as a cruiser.
Maybe that also affects what they drop, i dunno.
All i know is, that with good scan skills, it often takes 1 a 2 hour to find the tougher complexes and that the loot(pure alloys and salvage items, nothing else) from 1 complex is just not worth it, compared to ratting and not even to the mining in 0.0.
just saying, the trigger mechanics is wrong, most likely wont influence what they drop :/
But the reward vs time invested is not even getting close to 30 percent what u get by using the same time in another way.
Till it becomes at least a bit worthwhile, i wont even waste my time with them anymore and so are most people playing there.
Another big reason is, that the new noob onboard scanner complexes there are also unknown, which spoils the multispectral scan probe, which wont show how MANY unknown there are in a system but only will show 1.
So you cant filter the systems either anymore with multispectral probes to see if there is REALLY somethign there.
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Manic Smile
Tau Ceti Global Production
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.12 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Manic Smile on 12/07/2007 00:14:43
 Originally by: CCP Oveur
There is a problem in general with some Exploration sites and it's not limited to the new regions. We have a team working on it.
I know the nature of these forums means you have to be careful with what you say but what does that statement mean. Are you saying that the lack of exploration content in drone space, i.e. having only drone combat sites and asteroid mining sites is unintentional and related to a general bug with all exploration sites. Or are you saying that all exploration sites are bugged at the moment and you are working to fix them, but that drone space will still only have limited options after this bug is 'fixed'.
Now if it's the fist situation then awesome, thank you for letting us know there is a problem and that you are working on it...if it's not that however why post at all. I mean most of us could care less if exploration is fixed in drone space if all we'll have is drone combat plexes, with drops worse then asteroid drones, or mining plexes in a region that has minerals coming out of our collective orifices.
We want the same variety of stuff to do that other 0.0 space gets.
*courtesy of www.flickr.com
I hate the jpeg format.
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Karanth
Gallente
Cirrius Technologies
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.07.12 20:16:00 -
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Hi, I'm Karanth, and I'm an alcoholic...
Whoops, wrong forum. Oh well, the bump is deserved. Save my alliance mates! Until I can probe for sites, that only leaves my alliance mates as probing targets.... 
Free beer for those who mod my sig!
There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer.
I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg
I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh
I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold
I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit
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*pushes the other mods out of the way* Mmmm, bree - Karass
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IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.13 01:13:00 -
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I was exploring in a .6 in empire today and I found a radar site. I warp to the site to find that it is controlled by drones, and they are guarding several cans which can only be opened via hacking.
This is utter and complete bull**** CCP. The drone regions dont have these mini profession sites yet you spawn them in ****in empire
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Do not read this thread!!!
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Vort X
EON Order
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.07.13 04:21:00 -
[1085]
Edited by: Vort X on 13/07/2007 04:22:41
You are a funny guy mister Oveur! 
You have obviously have spyes (forum mods) in these pages who reports if CCP's reputation starts to get intense heat damage.
Now you came just like you did half year ago, basically telling us that there are nothing wrong with our region, it's a general eve bug. Unfortunately it did not turned off the overdive module, but generates more heat instead.
Could you please be so kind and actually read this topic before answering? You have 36 pages of research but if you read the last few, that should be enough.
If you already did that, probably you can sum it up and let us know if the problems are at least being recognized by CCP or as usual, it's being overseen. We'd like to know your, or the CCP's official point of view on all of these issues instead of playing firefighter games.
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Hammer Judge
Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.13 14:12:00 -
[1086]
Hi CCP. Thanks for dropping by, please fix. Stuff. Thanks! |
Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.13 15:02:00 -
[1087]
Its good to see some more attention. Please forgive all of us for our short tempers - 8 months of being ignored tends to do that to people.
I can say that the Asteroid issue seems to be fixed, at least to the point that mining is possible. Whether it is comparable to other regions is another issue, but I don't have to clear out 4 entire belts to get enough trit to build a single BS anymore.
I would say that Exploration is the next big issue we have. As stated, the existing Exploration sites are lousy/bugged. No Ladar or Radar sites at all. That translates into 'Don't do exploration in the Drone Regions.'
However, the storyline promised us the Drone Queen in an encounter/exploration complex. Supposedly, its the 'richest complex in Eve, a 15/10 difficulty'. Obviously, the Drone Queen has been in hibernation for 8 months, as no one has ever found this complex. Can we get some confirmation that this site will actuall exist somewhere someday?
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Reithan
Caldari
LEGI0N
SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.07.13 15:14:00 -
[1088]
Originally by: CCP Oveur
This is Oveur's automated forum posting service. Thank you for taking the said quote out of context. For your convenience, we have added the response to which this is a reply, which explains the reply in question. For further emphasis, the important parts have been put in bold.
Thank you very much and have a nice day.
Oveur FTW. 
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.13 20:20:00 -
[1089]
Originally by: Reithan
Originally by: CCP Oveur
This is Oveur's automated forum posting service. Thank you for taking the said quote out of context. For your convenience, we have added the response to which this is a reply, which explains the reply in question. For further emphasis, the important parts have been put in bold.
Thank you very much and have a nice day.
Oveur FTW.
Well its a bs reply that gives us no answers. Instead of addressing the issue directly he says that its an overall problem, which is bull**** because the drone regions have specific issues not related to those in other regions. Our issue is not that the sites arent respawning, its that we dont have them in the first place
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Do not read this thread!!!
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Bonny Lee
Caldari
God's Army Corp
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.14 11:02:00 -
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We would be happy if there was anything to explore.... neither an encounter nor a exploration site for more then a week.
Our Area seems totally bugged.
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LocalHost
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.14 12:28:00 -
[1091]
Originally by: CCP Oveur
This is Oveur's automated forum posting service. Thank you for taking the said quote out of context. For your convenience, we have added the response to which this is a reply, which explains the reply in question. For further emphasis, the important parts have been put in bold.
There is a problem in general with some Exploration sites and it's not limited to the new regions. We have a team working on it.
There is also a problem in general with some Asteroid sites and it's limited to the new regions. You should have a team working on it.
Thank you very much and have a nice day.
Hi, this is the automated "I'm a paying customer and I'm tired of not getting concrete answers to some very valid questions concerning a product I've been paying you for over 4 years now" service.
Seriously, before you get all cute perhaps you can actually give us some timelines on when functions are expected to be fixed. There was a time it was funny that we were sods out here in the Drone regions trying to make obviously broken things work, but that time is about 7 monthes stale.
Your best spokesmen is the community in which you build, that is true for any game out there. As it stands, this reputation is tarnished at best, if I only judge by the reactions of my friends (RL) and the in-game friends that still play but left this region due to obvious lack of CCP development and fixing. |
Jin Steele
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.07.14 16:10:00 -
[1092]
what about the complete lack of expeditions?
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Graisse
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Posted - 2007.07.14 16:56:00 -
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So after all this time you still think thera are bugs? dudes it's intended, thou CCP as a corporation will be in denial because there is something they don't want to tell. I have seen things like those in other mmorpgs and later in time people found all was a big cover for something weird.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.14 17:14:00 -
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people think CCP is being lazy and that they can fix anything in a matter of days if they put enough people into it
people underestimate the importance of good coding and that even perfect coding can have bugs sometimes from unexpected consequences
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |
Graisse
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Posted - 2007.07.14 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Graisse on 14/07/2007 17:19:13
You obviously don't know how long have been ppl asking for a solution...this thread started 3 months ago but the problem has been detected almost with kali deployment so go figure they deployed kali2 and the supposed New Regions are still not fixed. You don't need rocket science to know something is going on and we don't know it yet.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.14 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Graisse
Edited by: Graisse on 14/07/2007 17:19:13
You obviously don't know how long have been ppl asking for a solution...this thread started 3 months ago but the problem has been detected almost with kali deployment so go figure they deployed kali2 and the supposed New Regions are still not fixed. You don't need rocket science to know something is going on and we don't know it yet.
have you forgotten the various changes that have been attempted and more bugs being created? you must be ignoring these facts
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the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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Graisse
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Posted - 2007.07.14 20:44:00 -
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No dude no, I don't ignore anything concerning New Regions and this thread. Even my alliance mates where with devs in local trying to help with roid seeding, etc. so I'm pretty informed.
I just advise you to put your tin foil hat on.
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Sabian Treehugger
Minmatar
54th Knights Templar
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.07.14 22:24:00 -
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Graisse pls activate your corp and alliance ticker at least to show you're from the drone regions when you post.
Oh the intended bull**** ,no one buys it anymore CCP just adapts to the player's actions.
Take for example the plush changes remember when drone regions were intended to be poor in lowends and now we can make millions of trit and pyer just from ratting only thing which is in low suply is mex which is imported and compressed easily if lacking.
That was CCP's reaction to the mineral market imballance which was affecting the whole of EVE and not just 5k-10k players living in droneland.And etc. the list can go on.
See it's not about what's intended it's about how many players it's affecting.
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SirMolly
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Posted - 2007.07.16 19:37:00 -
[1099]
Originally by: Jin Steele
New patch, nothing fixed.
7 months and drone regions still suck.
You should have stayed in Deklein then.
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Jin Steele
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.07.16 19:40:00 -
[1100]
Originally by: SirMolly
Originally by: Jin Steele
New patch, nothing fixed.
7 months and drone regions still suck.
You should have stayed in Deklein then.
And you should post with your main.
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ION Deathstar
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Posted - 2007.07.16 23:23:00 -
[1101]
http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Color me not impressed with the patch, considering the fact this thread has the most replies of all time and the complaints STILL remain unresolved, or even spoken to...... |
Hammer Judge
Southern Cross Incorporated
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.07.17 07:12:00 -
[1102]
I would appreciate some love on this issue. |
Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.17 15:50:00 -
[1103]
Ok, I've been in the Drone Regions since the day they opened up. We've laid out the bugs here quite convincingly, and CCP has addressed some while leaving others unanswered. Recently, the Asteroids are markedly better, and might actually be on par with other regions. Exploration sites are no longer bugged every time. I've actually seen an Exploration named drone and it dropped something other than normal minerals. These things are improvements, and are moving us closer to being a viable region.
However.... 
The Storyline on the Drone Regions promised that the Drone Queen Complex was out here somewere. It was always intended to be a Exploration-only complex, with a supposed difficulty of '15/10'. It was supposed to be 'the richest complex in EVE.' Finding this complex, or at least the pursuit of it as a Corp/Alliance endeavor, is something I thought would add considerable spice to the boring existence out here.
The reality is that the recent Encounter scanner displays 'Unknowns' just like the probes do, which makes it difficult to find things to explore in the first place. NO Hacking and NO Archeological sites at ALL! Current rewards for Exploration/Encounter sites are less than normal belt ratting and much harder to do. And, above it all, NO ONE HAS EVER FOUND THE DRONE QUEEN HIVE!
Now I'm not asking for the damm thing to spawn in front of my outpost each day promptly after downtime. I personally hope it is a very difficult and rare occurrance. What I am asking is confirmation that it DOES actually spawn and is not bugged. In other words, CCP, does it exist and is possible to find?
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ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:13:00 -
[1104]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Ok, I've been in the Drone Regions since the day they opened up. We've laid out the bugs here quite convincingly, and CCP has addressed some while leaving others unanswered. Recently, the Asteroids are markedly better, and might actually be on par with other regions. Exploration sites are no longer bugged every time. I've actually seen an Exploration named drone and it dropped something other than normal minerals. These things are improvements, and are moving us closer to being a viable region.
However....
The Storyline on the Drone Regions promised that the Drone Queen Complex was out here somewere. It was always intended to be a Exploration-only complex, with a supposed difficulty of '15/10'. It was supposed to be 'the richest complex in EVE.' Finding this complex, or at least the pursuit of it as a Corp/Alliance endeavor, is something I thought would add considerable spice to the boring existence out here.
The reality is that the recent Encounter scanner displays 'Unknowns' just like the probes do, which makes it difficult to find things to explore in the first place. NO Hacking and NO Archeological sites at ALL! Current rewards for Exploration/Encounter sites are less than normal belt ratting and much harder to do. And, above it all, NO ONE HAS EVER FOUND THE DRONE QUEEN HIVE!
Now I'm not asking for the damm thing to spawn in front of my outpost each day promptly after downtime. I personally hope it is a very difficult and rare occurrance. What I am asking is confirmation that it DOES actually spawn and is not bugged. In other words, CCP, does it exist and is possible to find?
Well the lack of hacking and other sites is just a result of the complete disregard CCP has shown for these new regions. I have found drone radar sites in empire but not in the drone regions. WTF CCP
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Do not read this thread!!!
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CCP Prism X
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:42:00 -
[1105]
Hello again, just returned from my summer vacation and much to my dismay this topic seems to have grown some 8 pages 
Like some of you might know I was working on some of the issues here and I'm glad to see they aren't popping up (as far as I can see). However, if there are still issues I'll give you the same advice as I've given people who approached me in local as I was looking at things:
Start a new topic. Make it on one single topic. Dont go all over the map.
There's just too much of everything in this topic and no focus. Pick what bothers you the most. Make a new topic with the subject something in the direction of: [Drone Regions: Mesocricetus Auratus causing masticating deterioration in power core, please fix!] where the subject depicts your favourite wrong doing. As long as that topic stays on topic we can see how many people actualy agree with you and that puts alot more pressure on that topic than 38 pages of everything between the heavens and the earth. It's also quite scary to reply to these topics as there is no way you can cover every subject that has been raised so somebody will always feel shafted.
Ofcourse you can also go on and post here if you want to keep the thread alive. It will definetly show for how long this issue has been going on but it's not going to facilitate it's resolution in the same manner as a concise campaign is. Now, please refrain from misunderstanding this as some veiled threat, insult or as a promise that everything will be alright as soon as those topics are made. I'm just offering a suggestion on how we can make this easier for everybody.
At any rate, I'm signing out of this topic. It's been fun to be helpful and actualy see the labours of my work turn some frowns upside-down but now I must turn my attention elsewhere. The current (I think they're the current ones) complaints are not really in my ballpark and I dont know what, other than respawns and asteroids, has been fixed and I'm not re-inventing the wheel (although it could do with some more pew pew).
Untill we meet again,
~ PrismX
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Hammer Judge
Southern Cross Incorporated
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.07.17 23:19:00 -
[1106]
Edited by: Hammer Judge on 17/07/2007 23:18:56
OK. Seems like a fair suggestion.
Does anyone have an up-to-date compilation of issues, that have been reported/verified by more than one poster? If not, anyone with time on their hands want to trawl the past say 10 pages or so and collate one?
If so, perhaps list it here to start, then, create a new thread for each one with a title like [Drone Regions issue] TITLEHERE.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 05:28:00 -
[1107]
Originally by: Hammer Judge
Edited by: Hammer Judge on 17/07/2007 23:18:56
OK. Seems like a fair suggestion.
Does anyone have an up-to-date compilation of issues, that have been reported/verified by more than one poster? If not, anyone with time on their hands want to trawl the past say 10 pages or so and collate one?
If so, perhaps list it here to start, then, create a new thread for each one with a title like [Drone Regions issue] TITLEHERE.
already done for Exploration
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LocalHost
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.18 14:01:00 -
[1108]
Originally by: CCP Prism X
Hello again, just returned from my summer vacation and much to my dismay this topic seems to have grown some 8 pages
Like some of you might know I was working on some of the issues here and I'm glad to see they aren't popping up (as far as I can see). However, if there are still issues I'll give you the same advice as I've given people who approached me in local as I was looking at things:
Start a new topic. Make it on one single topic. Dont go all over the map.
There's just too much of everything in this topic and no focus. Pick what bothers you the most. Make a new topic with the subject something in the direction of: [Drone Regions: Mesocricetus Auratus causing masticating deterioration in power core, please fix!] where the subject depicts your favourite wrong doing. As long as that topic stays on topic we can see how many people actualy agree with you and that puts alot more pressure on that topic than 38 pages of everything between the heavens and the earth. It's also quite scary to reply to these topics as there is no way you can cover every subject that has been raised so somebody will always feel shafted.
Ofcourse you can also go on and post here if you want to keep the thread alive. It will definetly show for how long this issue has been going on but it's not going to facilitate it's resolution in the same manner as a concise campaign is. Now, please refrain from misunderstanding this as some veiled threat, insult or as a promise that everything will be alright as soon as those topics are made. I'm just offering a suggestion on how we can make this easier for everybody.
At any rate, I'm signing out of this topic. It's been fun to be helpful and actualy see the labours of my work turn some frowns upside-down but now I must turn my attention elsewhere. The current (I think they're the current ones) complaints are not really in my ballpark and I dont know what, other than respawns and asteroids, has been fixed and I'm not re-inventing the wheel (although it could do with some more pew pew).
Untill we meet again,
~ PrismX
Well pardon my lack of enthusiasm, but while your work is appreciated, don't you have the ability to look over a cube at the office, or (we know you have MSN) text one of the GM's that *does* have the ability to look into these issues ?
Saying that it's been cute and all, and that we might ought to make new threads flies in the face of reason and tries my patience personally..... we have been trying to get these issues fixed for monthes, almost coming up on a year now, with petitions and having *THE* most active thread on this sub-forum....
What I, as a paying customer for 4 years on 3 accounts, would like to see is a response by CCP explaining where we are with the issues brought up over the last 9-10 monthes in this thread. Instead of "burying" the issues by creating new threads, it seems to me the best way to put this issue to rest is to acknowledge the problems instead.... sending in junior members of your team to peek and poke, while fun temporarily, doesn't actually fix the problem.
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Haks'he Lirky
8th
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Posted - 2007.07.18 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: LocalHost
Well pardon my lack of enthusiasm, but while your work is appreciated, don't you have the ability to look over a cube at the office, or (we know you have MSN) text one of the GM's that *does* have the ability to look into these issues ?
Saying that it's been cute and all, and that we might ought to make new threads flies in the face of reason and tries my patience personally..... we have been trying to get these issues fixed for monthes, almost coming up on a year now, with petitions and having *THE* most active thread on this sub-forum....
What I, as a paying customer for 4 years on 3 accounts, would like to see is a response by CCP explaining where we are with the issues brought up over the last 9-10 monthes in this thread. Instead of "burying" the issues by creating new threads, it seems to me the best way to put this issue to rest is to acknowledge the problems instead.... sending in junior members of your team to peek and poke, while fun temporarily, doesn't actually fix the problem.
That's my 2 cents, based upon how other companies work that actually seem to care bout their paying customers.
You as a demanding customer could show some initiative instead of talking about vague issues that exist in this monster thread, how bout compiling all the issues brought up in this thread and mark the ones that have been fixed and the ones that havent been?
Then start a new thread with that compiled list, get more feedback and hope for more success.
As a independant developer I have experienced the nightmare of players making demands that something should be fixed while at the same time they only talk in general terms about a feature set, this makes it almost impossible for me as a developer to get a concrete idea what exactly is wrong, or infact if there is something wrong (people sometimes simply dont agree with your game desing choices).
only my 0.1 isk.
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Alerce
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Posted - 2007.07.18 15:39:00 -
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Sorry dude, but if game developers are not able to communicate with their playerbase and are not able to filter out the information in topics, then they stink at doing their job.
There were enough concrete statements made.
Beside: our ccp employer doesnt even bother to read or react on the new topics.
So these new topics are almost already lost in several pages in the history list, so the message is not getting across in these new topics either.
I am not a game developer, but dang it, if my customers complain about something and are first bit unclear about what the exact problem is, i do my best to filter the needed information out and talk with them, till the problem is accurately written down and can be taken care off. Otherwise i visit the building site for example and look into it. Customer is king and almost always right.
The last CCP employer showing up here, is not really showing any interest at all,they make dumb remarks in the forums (so called funny remarks in their opinion i guess, but to a lot of players, they feel like big insults) that tried to make a home in the drone regions, that still have hope ccp will finally understand, there are big problems with the drone regions.
Drone regions in short: lot of alloys, you can get with shooting rats.
Otherwise: nothing.
If you compare that with all the content and options, there are in other regions, then its not the players job to keep writing tons of different options, how to fix it. The drone regions need a well overall overlook, that the idea of the region is and how it can be made so, that the players in that region also have multiple options to play EVE and its content there. Its not just 1 or 2 problems, its the drone regions in its total, that are wrong.
exploration is considered nothing, because efford/time spent is not worth it, compared to the ridiculous low rewards, you get from them, while your ship is under heavy risk. Lot of these exploration sites can NOT be done by 1 or 2 players and be salvaged in time either.
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