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Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.

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Originally by: Turin

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Nerf the freighter griefers.

No Concrode payout.

Find some way to keep trial accounts from attacking them at all. Disposable trial accounts are what truely make this possible. Since you dont get any sec hit to keep you out of empire.

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/signed

No insurance payouts.

Then, suddenly, it no longer makes economic sense to pop freighters with as many alts as you can muster.

Yes, yes, I know that this is unacceptable to some people. But those people are incapable of critical analysis, or have a vested interest in the current situation continuing.

I guess until CCP fixes mineral compression rates the answer is 'who cares anyway, use a frigate to haul ME25 titan modules'. Real good job there, CCP.

There is no downside to not paying out insurance for CONCORD kills. Just makes it sting that much more when you stupidly fire the wrong module off in empire wars.

Originally by: Tharrn

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What I do with my freighter alt now: he carries shrinkwrapped 'courier mission' crap all the time and I shrinkwrap my real goods, too. It's rare that I fill the hold up anyways, and that way the ganksquads run a good chance to gank me for a good pile of junk if they take the chance. Enjoy :D

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Venkul Mul

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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 18/08/2007 19:55:15

Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Venkul Mul

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Dylatar

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Originally by: Ki An

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Originally by: Athren Soulsteal

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So far the only argument aganst low slots is "nooo then some on can bring a cap into high sec..." And? What the prob, so now they can do what with it, protect the miners from the nasty rats? (in high sec). Oh they can use it to gank at the gates.. sure lets build a cap to throw it away at a gate. OH maybe they are going to use it for mining,,,

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There are tons of other arguments in this thread, but that one is as good as any. The problem with capitals in high sec is that they're not supposed to be there. Hence, they can't jump there. If a freighter was to be given low slots it could take a cap into a place where it isn't supposed to be, thus circumventing an intended game mechanic.

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Not an argument. Stated often in this thread but simply corrected by just increasing size of repackaged capital ships. And on the other hand: expanders reduce hull hp, which again makes a freigher more vulnerable and slower as it already is. Nobody who wants to prevent that would do this. And in my own opinion not necessary. Most time I haven't loaded my freighter full up to the rooftop. That makes cargo expanders the very last thing I would fit to a freighter.

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Decrease the cargosize of freighters and give them enough lowslots to fully compensate that loss with cargoexpanders IF they think that's a good idea.
Make a new Freighter-DCU with 70-80% resist on structure for the pilots who are willing to trade some cargocapacity for a tank.

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Some of you is vaguely aware that using any weapon/offensive module on a capital in high sec is an exploit, and that if reported will get a warning to the offender and the capship will be moved in low sec?

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Damage controls are hardly offensive modules.
And the freighter don't seem to be a 100% pure cap-ship since it lacks the ability to cynojump.

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As the "fear" was for freighter to bring capship in high sec to wreack havoc, and that was used as a reason not to give low slots to freighters, I was pointing that a capship can't operate in high sec.

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Hence:

Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Decrease the cargosize of freighters and give them enough lowslots to fully compensate that loss with cargoexpanders

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Now, what is the problem?

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Originally by: CaldariAdam

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Originally by: Tharrn

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What I do with my freighter alt now: he carries shrinkwrapped 'courier mission' crap all the time and I shrinkwrap my real goods, too. It's rare that I fill the hold up anyways, and that way the ganksquads run a good chance to gank me for a good pile of junk if they take the chance. Enjoy :D

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It was fixed in a recent patch that what you do will not help anymore.

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Originally by: CaldariAdam

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Originally by: Tharrn

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What I do with my freighter alt now: he carries shrinkwrapped 'courier mission' crap all the time and I shrinkwrap my real goods, too. It's rare that I fill the hold up anyways, and that way the ganksquads run a good chance to gank me for a good pile of junk if they take the chance. Enjoy :D

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It was fixed in a recent patch that what you do will not help anymore.

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Originally by: galadran

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Griefing

Read and learn...

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Originally by: CaldariAdam

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Originally by: Tharrn

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What I do with my freighter alt now: he carries shrinkwrapped 'courier mission' crap all the time and I shrinkwrap my real goods, too. It's rare that I fill the hold up anyways, and that way the ganksquads run a good chance to gank me for a good pile of junk if they take the chance. Enjoy :D

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It was fixed in a recent patch that what you do will not help anymore.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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The problem isn't that freighters can be killed, the problem is that they can't be defended.

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