If you think PvP performance has anything to do with this you have never actually flown a carrier in PvP fleet before. Your fighters can be jammed by a million isk griffin for christ sake.

no point in wasting anymore money on this game. going form pay $$$ to pvp in carrier to just carebearing in a Ishtar so I can plex my account what a fun game. you suck ccp

This makes no sense. So you're sweeping the biggest ISK making game-breaking exploit and guilty parties under the rug while at the same time punishing people that are actually out their grinding for their ISK instead? You people are the equivalent of corrupt politicians with how you represent us and you're equally as out-of-touch.

Yup Yup yup

My issue with this nerf isn't from the carrier viewpoint side, but the structure utility side, as this is a blanket FIGHTER nerf, and not a direct carrier nerf. A hard chunk of citadel defensive DPS is getting stripped with this, making structure defense a mite more difficult. Its more an annoyance to me than anything else, as it still quantifies a strong force multiplier when utilized right even after the fighter nerfs hit on tuesday, but considering fighters are one of the few viable anti-subcap defenses in citadel reportoires right now(Point Defense and bomb launchers not withstanding), it seems a bit ill-thought since fighter changes don't just affect carriers anymore.

If its due to PVE just make some area effect similar to those in wormholes to weaken the fighters or whatever that ****** up idea of yours is, The PVP part is more like correct usage of correct mods in correct situations and its all dependant on either Fleet Commanders, fleet concept or pilots themselves and there are no NPCs involved so not your fuckin concern. You gave us **** to use, we do it, dont try to fix somethingthat you ****** up enough already.... AGAIN!

This is a bad idea. I understand some damage reduction but this is a bit too much. Also, NPCs already target fighters 100% of the time. Whats the point in upping that?

Those effect are system wide so they would impact PvP too unless you ask CCP to design some kind of "NPC command burst" centered on the sites with gigantic ranges that only affect the required type of fighters in the required way. They obviously went with an easier solution...

Yup Yup yup

Exactly. Do not forget the sig radius nerf last update.

sounds like a carebear problem and carebears + ccp = lame ass game

Nope nope nope.

This is patently ridiculous.

First of all, the two situations are not remotely comparable, nor are they at all related.

Ghost training absolutely should be punished in some way (I'd start with an outright deletion of all earned ISK and take it from there), but that has nothing to do with this.

You're not being punished. It's simply necessary, for the health of the game, to reduce the inflow of ISK from carrier ratting. vOv

To all the people complaining that : "I can't plex my account anymore, ccp is so greedy they want me to pay it with RL money"

Don't you understant that all the plexes that are in the game have been bought on CCP's website and therefore paying the sub in plex or RL money makes no difference to ccp ?

Nope nope nope.

This is patently ridiculous.

First of all, the two situations are not remotely comparable, nor are they at all related.

Ghost training absolutely should be punished in some way (I'd start with an outright deletion of all earned ISK and take it from there), but that has nothing to do with this.

You're not being punished. It's simply necessary, for the health of the game, to reduce the inflow of ISK from carrier ratting. vOv