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Jamie 315
Yet Another CAOD Inspired 1 Woman Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:40:00 -
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So spill it. I hear 400ppl gathered from 17 alliances to kill m. pire, confirm or deny? Recruiting is open |

Dianeces
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:43:00 -
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I heard M.Pire and Fatal were too busy being camped into their outposts and POSes to do anything other than post on the forums, c/d?
Quote: Cristobalus DeMora > so what do the forums say? Jaleean Atheria > smack smack smack flame smack flame smack smack flame alt post flame flame flame smack flame *click*
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Shin3p
Vertigo Project
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:44:00 -
[3]
Hi,
Thank you for contacting customer support. We are aware of the load in the system, however I am afraid we are unable to move players at this time. We hope to have normal game play restored shortly. We apologise for the inconvenience.
Eve have no lag...
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tikki
Malicious Intentions Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:45:00 -
[4]
Bahh I hate it when my wife tells me real life really is more important than EVE.
From last nights gaming I know there is plenty of fun to be had up north and Razor + many friends are making another effort to claim BKG.
An impartial status report would be really nice for those of us who can't be there this weekend :o(
How have events unfolded since yesterday?
Recrutiment Thread |

Dianeces
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:47:00 -
[5]
Station services down, bubble on the undock point. Couple of POSes put into reinforced, and last I'd checked, the Cyno jammer was disabled.
Quote: Cristobalus DeMora > so what do the forums say? Jaleean Atheria > smack smack smack flame smack flame smack smack flame alt post flame flame flame smack flame *click*
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:51:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Dianeces Station services down, bubble on the undock point. Couple of POSes put into reinforced, and last I'd checked, the Cyno jammer was disabled.
Now... define "couple" of POSes... Lagg is horrid in BKG sadly =(
De-sync Online... =( |

Ather Ialeas
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: tikki How have events unfolded since yesterday?
My experiences so far can be summed to two words, slow and boring.
I heard BKG has so much lag atm that it's like as if the time would go backwards there, even ships warp backwards. -
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ironass
Originally by: Dianeces Station services down, bubble on the undock point. Couple of POSes put into reinforced, and last I'd checked, the Cyno jammer was disabled.
Now... define "couple" of POSes... Lagg is horrid in BKG sadly =(
I've seen two personally. But I've been on but sporadically in the past day or so, so there almost certainly are more.
Quote: Cristobalus DeMora > so what do the forums say? Jaleean Atheria > smack smack smack flame smack flame smack smack flame alt post flame flame flame smack flame *click*
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Central Scrutinizer
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:56:00 -
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As one of our reds pointed out, every few weeks Razor Alliance gets tired of sucking at Eve in general, and gets together with friends to suck at taking enemy station systems.
However, something seems to have gone horribly, horribly wrong.
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Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:56:00 -
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Forcing m.pire out of the north means they'll go crawling back to bob/mc for space and help with the steamroller in the south south. Of course after the south is secured, another MC capital blob trip up north and all is lost again.
You people up north are free of the silly BOB/GOON lag war, why jeapordize that?
You both have enough systems, swallow your false pride and stop the pos wars. Just keep having roaming gangs and organized fleet encounters.
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hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:59:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Dianeces
I've seen two personally. But I've been on but sporadically in the past day or so, so there almost certainly are more.
There are 10-12 in reinforced.
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Eurydyke
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:01:00 -
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Hardly any resistance anymore. Dreads are shooting Pos around the clock, many are in reinforced (around 10, some got already destroyed). ~10 Coalition Pos got deployed until now. Obviously no support from Fatal and Cow in bkg...
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NOObbody
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker Forcing m.pire out of the north means they'll go crawling back to bob/mc for space and help with the steamroller in the south south. Of course after the south is secured, another MC capital blob trip up north and all is lost again.
You people up north are free of the silly BOB/GOON lag war, why jeapordize that?
You both have enough systems, swallow your false pride and stop the pos wars. Just keep having roaming gangs and organized fleet encounters.
Im shivering. --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy! |

Nobues
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jamie 315 So spill it. I hear 400ppl gathered from 17 alliances to kill m. pire, confirm or deny?
this is best left to the big boys who don't hide behind an alt. Webhosting & Killboard for you, your corp, and your Alliance Click me for more info |

xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:03:00 -
[15]
So, eh, lemme guess.
2 people from an entire alliance means that entire alliance is there to kill them? 
Seriously, you guys really do over-exaggerate. There are probably very few of those alliances fully comitted: RZR, MM, PURE and MH would be my guesses as the *only* alliances dedicated to it.
I think you'll find that if every one of those 17 alliances comitted, there'd be a freaking lot more than 400 in local 
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hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: xBlood So, eh, lemme guess.
2 people from an entire alliance means that entire alliance is there to kill them? 
Seriously, you guys really do over-exaggerate. There are probably very few of those alliances fully comitted: RZR, MM, PURE and MH would be my guesses as the *only* alliances dedicated to it.
I think you'll find that if every one of those 17 alliances comitted, there'd be a freaking lot more than 400 in local 
So true... although RK and SMASH are up here in a decent amount of people
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ShinDany
Vertigo Project Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Eurydyke Hardly any resistance anymore. Dreads are shooting Pos around the clock, many are in reinforced (around 10, some got already destroyed). ~10 Coalition Pos got deployed until now. Obviously no support from Fatal and Cow in bkg...
ahahahah this post win EvE...
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:11:00 -
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You guys are just taking back your former allies space, so it doesn't actually count. I also heard that if you take BKG MC is going to come and kick your butt. Honestly RZR, what were you thinking?
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Astarte Nosferatu
We Know Derek Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:21:00 -
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And certain M.Pire members are so proud they build a new Amarr outpost while they are losing sovereignity in their unofficial capital system. Sounds like CorM, they also thought it was a good plan to build more outposts to try and stop the Goons.
I probably shouldn't be saying this, but if you invested the isk you spend on outpost in replacement ships and a Capital Ship fleet, you might actually be able to hold your space. All you're doing now is building outposts which will be taken over by the Coalition, which I don't really mind of course .
signature removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) *snip* Do not discuss moderation in your sig - hutch |

Digicomm
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:25:00 -
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Yeah but M.Pire as gungan and mccool.
Ur pwnd, you just dont know it yet.
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EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:26:00 -
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To MM/FATAL/CW : you rock.
Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
Tbh i'm quite impressed by you.
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: EnacheV1 To MM/FATAL/CW : you rock.
Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
Tbh i'm quite impressed by you.
To MM/FATAL/CW... MM as in Morsus Mihi? :)
De-sync Online... =( |

Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:27:00 -
[23]
Well we're sieging m.pire pos in BKG. M.pire are in BKG with us. Fatal in their constellation apparently putting up op's. Cow ganking between tribute and tenal. Everything is as usual.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Attak You guys are just taking back your former allies space, so it doesn't actually count. I also heard that if you take BKG MC is going to come and kick your butt. Honestly RZR, what were you thinking?

MC have got enough of their own probs atm me thinks 
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: EnacheV1 on 29/09/2007 21:32:39
Originally by: Fred0 Well we're sieging m.pire pos in BKG. M.pire are in BKG with us. Fatal in their constellation apparently putting up op's. Cow ganking between tribute and tenal. Everything is as usual.
Looking at the latest killmails in BKG i se 45%/45%/10% gangs split between Mpire/FATAL/CW from where i conclude that FATAL is in BKG. Also considering 1200/1200/400 member distribution i think CW is also in BKG.
Poor attempt to break relations, you should abstain.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: EnacheV1
Originally by: Fred0 Well we're sieging m.pire pos in BKG. M.pire are in BKG with us. Fatal in their constellation apparently putting up op's. Cow ganking between tribute and tenal. Everything is as usual.
Looking at the latest killmails in BKG i se 45%/45%/10% gangs split between Mpire/FATAL/CW from where i conclude that FATAL is in BKG.
Poor attempt to break relations, you should abstain.
ohnoes 
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: EnacheV1 Edited by: EnacheV1 on 29/09/2007 21:28:58 To MPIRE/FATAL/CW : you rock.
Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
Tbh i'm quite impressed by you.
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Eurydyke
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:43:00 -
[28]
Originally by: EnacheV1 Edited by: EnacheV1 on 29/09/2007 21:28:58 To MPIRE/FATAL/CW : you rock.
Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
Tbh i'm quite impressed by you.
Fix is sending Capital forum support.
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Eventus
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:28:00 -
[29]
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: xBlood So, eh, lemme guess.
2 people from an entire alliance means that entire alliance is there to kill them? 
Seriously, you guys really do over-exaggerate. There are probably very few of those alliances fully comitted: RZR, MM, PURE and MH would be my guesses as the *only* alliances dedicated to it.
I think you'll find that if every one of those 17 alliances comitted, there'd be a freaking lot more than 400 in local 
So true... although RK and SMASH are up here in a decent amount of people
having a blast thx for havin us 
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Jhyme
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:32:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Eurydyke
Originally by: EnacheV1 Edited by: EnacheV1 on 29/09/2007 21:28:58 To MPIRE/FATAL/CW : you rock.
Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
Tbh i'm quite impressed by you.
Fix is sending Capital forum support.
Epic win.
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LoveYouSan
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:48:00 -
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m.pire really seems to be steamrolled when they have time now to post all this smack about odds and relations in here.
why dont you fight ? less words, more action please !
i want to see capital kills !
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Jags
Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:54:00 -
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Only one capital kill so far and that was a Moros killed by our POS gunners last night , shockingly bad fitting . We had 2 more instructure but they got out of siege and were repped in time.
Even if we lose that will still be the funniest thing I have ever seen in EVE.
Kinda stuck and not in game since my ISP decided to chop the cable in the street so Im on the work 3G card seeing if I can bridge it to make EVE work but failing miserably.
Moar updates needed tbh
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Cmd Woodlouse
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: EnacheV1 Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, that coming from a Fixian - i nearly spilled my Cubata on the monitor while laughing   
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:07:00 -
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Wishing i can get in the mix there, puter broke, and my backup cant handle eve because the card fried a few months ago (its why it became the backup) theres nothing worse than knowing theres a massive battle going on and you cant join in.
But then again, i doubt i would be able to log in anyway, "the server is currently full, overweight and the hamsters have just had heart attacks" - please try again later
D
If my views represent the views of my corporation and alliance, then you, sir/madam, are a spoon |

PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:12:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: EnacheV1 Keep it up, if they need 15 alliances and 8:1 odds in total members to reinforce some pos'es over a weekend you just need to fight back a little and they will fail cause bandwagoners dont have stamina.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, that coming from a Fixian - i nearly spilled my Cubata on the monitor while laughing   
Hence i highlighted it 
bandwagoneers eh ? starting since GNW
ah well he still has a " back" to talkbehind fromi suppose ;)
hows you woody ? _______________________
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Attak You guys are just taking back your former allies space, so it doesn't actually count. I also heard that if you take BKG MC is going to come and kick your butt. Honestly RZR, what were you thinking?
lol funny, do they want to lose more titans?
From what I here MC are soft **** right now they wont be doing anything.
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MiIitary Genius
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:27:00 -
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So even with 17 alliances they (Razor/MM/??) are paying Burn Eden and Cruel Intentions to come up as well and camp the pipes into BKG .... just shows how confident you guys are  |

Kilostream
Caldari Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:52:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Kilostream on 29/09/2007 23:52:41
Originally by: LoveYouSan ....m.pire really seems to be steamrolled when they have time now to post all this smack about odds and relations in here....
To be fair to M.Pire, a lot of their pilots are a decent crew, that don't indulge in smack and DO know what they're doing.
It's only really the fragile ego's that have to squeal about odds etc. to try and get it to make sense in their own heads why what is happening is happening.
And you can't blame M.Pire for that - we have fragile ego's in our alliance too and so, I'm sure, do all the others.
Just be patient - the fight will go on a while yet, and history will relate the outcome soon enough.
Easy now,
Kilo
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LoveYouSan
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:05:00 -
[39]
M.PIRE surrendered and gave up BKG ...
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SharonChrista
Minmatar RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:09:00 -
[40]
....nothing ....just ...end
...tock
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gimmemoneyhoney
Krupp Industries und Werfe
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:15:00 -
[41]
M.Pire just surrendered to RZR/MM/Pure/RoadkillSmash/etc They are turning off bkg sov tonight I got the info from a director friend in M.pire. 
We got the toys. best 2nd hand weapon dealer ingame! |

Autrion
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:18:00 -
[42]
Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
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Orbital Drift
Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:21:00 -
[43]
I cannot properly relay the magnitude of my disappointment...I had only poured the first pint of the weekend and started flying up.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:22:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Autrion Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
then i dont feel so bad for not being invited
I just want to be loved
I driks alots |

Yuto Kang
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:23:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Autrion Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
Well, to be honest, Smashkill missed out on all the action because you didn't join in the first 2-3 weeks of the siege and fight and just came for the grand finale. Anyway, good job RZR/MM, the shift in strategy during this campaign paid off and I salute your leadership for making the right choice. ___________________________
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Nadar
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:25:00 -
[46]
Originally by: dastommy79 then i dont feel so bad for not being invited
Hi. Have you met Nadar and Kendar?  ---
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Autrion
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:27:00 -
[47]
We had something else to do, "Grand Finale" was fun 
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:29:00 -
[48]
We put up the best fight we could, but it wasn't enough.
I'd like to take the time to thank FATAL and COW for helping out where they could during the fights over the last few days.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:31:00 -
[49]
Originally by: MiIitary Genius So even with 17 alliances they (Razor/MM/??) are paying Burn Eden and Cruel Intentions to come up as well and camp the pipes into BKG .... just shows how confident you guys are 
Welcome to last week Military Genius 
CI have departed the area, seems that RZR have the situation well under control.
Expect sov change to be announced
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

Great Guardian
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:36:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Great Guardian on 30/09/2007 00:36:44 Grats RZR/MM and Co.
Personally I hope that condition for letting them leave was that MPIRE cannot assist BoB/MC/FIX against IAAAC. Time will show this soon I guessà.
Cheers, GG
" I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will |
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Korah
Caldari Heavy Metal Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:37:00 -
[51]
If you wanted action you wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon which outnumbers the enemy by many times.
Now go back to the circlejerking.
Originally by: Autrion Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:39:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Korah If you wanted action you wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon which outnumbers the enemy by many times.
Now go back to the circlejerking.
Originally by: Autrion Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
aww cutey want a lollipop?
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:50:00 -
[53]
Originally by: MiIitary Genius So even with 17 alliances they (Razor/MM/??) are paying Burn Eden and Cruel Intentions to come up as well and camp the pipes into BKG .... just shows how confident you guys are 
Since this will be snipped as it's posted by an unidentified caracter, I'm quoting once more and hope the mods are drunker than I am and don't see it.
Quote:
"So even with 17 alliances they (Razor/MM/??) are paying Burn Eden and Cruel Intentions to come up as well and camp the pipes into BKG .... just shows how confident you guys are "
My response:
Actually, we are paying our members to pay BE and CI to fight for our members. Am I clear?
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Bashiri
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:50:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Yuto Kang
Originally by: Autrion Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
Well, to be honest, Smashkill missed out on all the action because you didn't join in the first 2-3 weeks of the siege and fight and just came for the grand finale. Anyway, good job RZR/MM, the shift in strategy during this campaign paid off and I salute your leadership for making the right choice.
Cause we launch our attack on IO space the same day you did on BGK
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:51:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Korah If you wanted action you wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon which outnumbers the enemy by many times.
Now go back to the circlejerking.
I think somebody needs a hug...
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Euxinus
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:54:00 -
[56]
Apart from all the war thing etc.. M.PIRE was the best alliance amongs that infested our space for a period of time. Quality pilots, No Smack in local, No CAOD smacktards(hi Neena Valdi) pure quality. Wishing the best for them wherever they go now. I salute you all 0/
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Tar om
Minmatar Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:54:00 -
[57]
Damn, I wish they'd held on a bit longer - I was making a fortune from the alliance just for being in system! -- DEVS forget EVERYTHING because LAG is the only issue with which you need concern yourselves.
www.octavianvanguard.net |

V0rador
Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:55:00 -
[58]
Good choice , hard to take but will avoid days (weeks ?) of boring POS shooting / defense for razor side and mpire side.
o7
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:56:00 -
[59]
that was some fun ops
gratz to MM/RZR and others, was nice to see everyone :p ------
Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
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redrabneck
Caldari Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:13:00 -
[60]
that was great fun 2 even with lots of lag its ashame not got many kills during the war but hey i wish go luck for m.pire where every they go now :)
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Gunny Fisher
VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:37:00 -
[61]
So, I keep hearing different stories, did M.Pire surrender BKG, or give up and go home surrender with some of its assets intact? Audri Fisher when Some asshat starts taking loans out in his name and he has to freeze his bank account, so Audri can't be used. |

Camber Tremodian
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:59:00 -
[62]
Pos shooting + never saw any ship to shoot at pretty much sums up my experience in bkg. =(
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:00:00 -
[63]
yah, wasn't a terribly exciting evening was it?  _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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javer
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:21:00 -
[64]
all i wish to say is good luck and thanks for bringing us smack free fights, much appreciated -------------------------------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their Level and beat you with experience. |

R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:27:00 -
[65]
Edited by: R Worker102 on 30/09/2007 02:27:53 blah mpire surrender, fatel surrender, cow surrender, god damn people. ERR *****s, give us something to fight.
stupid forum.. worng toon.
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PraetorNZ
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:30:00 -
[66]
nothing going on in bkg. everyones blue and having a picnic.
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Chicalala
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:31:00 -
[67]
This is kind of re tarded, worse than Fallen Souls in a way; the entire 'New North' just surrendered with a sigh and an epic fail.
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Mikko Baird
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:32:00 -
[68]
did fatal and cow surrender??
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StealthRavenx
Caldari The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:35:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
No ________________________________________
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Ex0101
Gallente Malicious Intentions Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:36:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Not according to my overview, sat awaiting instruction.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:38:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:39:00 -
[72]
sounds like some lower downs havnt got the word yet, poor cow and fatel people.
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Hypothetical
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:40:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
Let's make sure you can't edit this later.
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StealthRavenx
Caldari The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:40:00 -
[74]
Originally by: R Worker102 sounds like some lower downs havnt got the word yet, poor cow and fatel people.
Poor Alt? ________________________________________
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:40:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Splade Like hell did we!!
Don't you mean, not yet?? 
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:41:00 -
[76]
ask your alliance leaders so they can brake the news to ya.
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redrabneck
Caldari Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:41:00 -
[77]
i have just heared corp m8 told me fatal and cow surrended is that true or not if they did thats crazy in one day lol
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Nobues
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:41:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
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StealthRavenx
Caldari The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:42:00 -
[79]
Originally by: redrabneck i have just heared corp m8 told me fatal and cow surrended is that true or not if they did thats crazy in one day lol
Not true ________________________________________
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:43:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Orree on 30/09/2007 02:44:27 Geez wiz...I takes my kids to a birthday party for one of my eldest daughter's best friends...go to church..come back and M.Pire has surrendered? I think I used 7 cycles of stront. 
BTW..I'd echo the earlier sentiments spoken about M.Pire. I think they are class guys. Under different circumstances, we might have been able to cooperate with them. Just wasn't in the cards this time around.
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Ex0101
Gallente Malicious Intentions Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:43:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Ex0101 on 30/09/2007 02:43:12
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Haargoth Agamar
Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:43:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Nobues
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
quoting for later when you edit your post.
Quoting this because even if the leadership tries to surrender it doesn`t mean that everyone will surrender. I for one am not going to surrender to Razor, Morsus Mihi et all. Your SIG is to big please reduce it to fit these limits
The size limits for signature graphics are as follows: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes
Thanks - Hutch
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Nobues
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:46:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Originally by: Nobues
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
quoting for later when you edit your post.
Quoting this because even if the leadership tries to surrender it doesn`t mean that everyone will surrender. I for one am not going to surrender to Razor, Morsus Mihi et all.
keeping on that file for when I see you goto empire.
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Kasheem Cetanes
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:47:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Kasheem Cetanes on 30/09/2007 02:47:21 Well, Word is, people have given up, mistakes were made, and there is about to be a change in leadership in the branch region. Indeed there is a general consensus in Washington that mistakes were made.
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Haargoth Agamar
Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:49:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Nobues
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Originally by: Nobues
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
quoting for later when you edit your post.
Quoting this because even if the leadership tries to surrender it doesn`t mean that everyone will surrender. I for one am not going to surrender to Razor, Morsus Mihi et all.
keeping on that file for when I see you goto empire.
You do that. Your SIG is to big please reduce it to fit these limits
The size limits for signature graphics are as follows: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes
Thanks - Hutch
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:01:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar Quoting this because even if the leadership tries to surrender it doesn`t mean that everyone will surrender. I for one am not going to surrender to Razor, Morsus Mihi et all.
Fail...
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:03:00 -
[87]
sounds like someone asked there leadership, and didn't get the answer they wanted to hear.
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:11:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Ex0101
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Not according to my overview, sat awaiting instruction.
you should check your overview now.
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Skelator
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:25:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Autrion Most disapionting victory ever, no action what so ever
Velios is probably one of the SMARTEST players in EVE when it comes to knowing when to Cut His Losses or turn a profit!
He never makes any decisions that will bleed cash and I am not surprised in the least he did this TBQH!
Smart player he is thats for sure.
Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts.
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:26:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sacul epic failure!!! ...what the hell happened to 'all can fold but M.pire will stay"...i mean wtf... u boosted ur moral for weeks that u would not break...now u roll over??? epic ******* failure!!!
im so dissapointed mwehhh :(
whats nxt TRI and MM/RZr just left shooting each other??? boring!!
You realize M.Pire was composed primarily of LV and ASCN splinters, right? Asking them to fight anyone without surrendering as soon as possible is ridiculous.
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Chicalala
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:26:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Quoting this because even if the leadership tries to surrender it doesn`t mean that everyone will surrender. I for one am not going to surrender to Razor, Morsus Mihi et all.
You should hook up with -Y- then, and be the next bob pet to be removed from the north. Though I somehow doubt scumbag turncoats will even get offered terms of surrender.
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Wormy
Copenhagen Long Cut
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:33:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Velios On the bright side, M.Corp director Fata Mea took command of a corporation financed Nyx mothership today.
Unlike the UXM one that died in lowsec, I can guarantee that this M.Corp mothership will only be used on the front lines of Branch, hopefully squishing many a RZR pilot into a horrible death.

better leave that Nyx behind then.. looks like you wont be needing it anymore
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:39:00 -
[93]
gl to Fatal and CoW
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:40:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Nobues
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
quoting for later when you edit your post.
How about you don't save anything for later. K.
For anyone that thinks M.pire just gave up..no.We had some very quality fights and times these last few months from them.
I hope that we continue to see much action in the days to come from any remaining resistence. Anyone that wants to talk about numbers should seen some of what the north faced with MC and that "wagon".
Look forward to any more fights that this conflict brings my corp and alliance. Thanks to all.
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Anton Marx
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:54:00 -
[95]
Go Go North!
I personally, am sending my kindest support from one of the hottest places in EvE to be now = FAT :P
Hope you guys spank BoB's pets up north, while we fighting off Catch's invaders ;)
May the booze be strong in the Coalition and the grid fully loaded :)
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Orc A
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:59:00 -
[96]
bloody hell.. WTB tgts i guess :/
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:08:00 -
[97]
That's pretty much it. M.Pire has surrendered, as have Fatal and CoW.
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Testosterone Bomb
Red Ballz
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:15:00 -
[98]
Question, did Tri ever accept the bet from Velios that if M. Pire was removed from Branch by the end of September he would hand over a Mothership?
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:16:00 -
[99]
yep it's done gf and some good fun
but like i said wtf do i do now?
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:17:00 -
[100]
Edited by: snerdly on 30/09/2007 04:20:24 Well, he said 'if he was removed by TRI'. And he wasn't removed by tri, so technically the bet conditions weren't fulfilled. I'm sure someone will post a pic of it in a moment.
Ah, hell, I will.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5115/veliosam2.jpg
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Frothgar
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:22:00 -
[101]
MC is still up here Sacul ;)
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:24:00 -
[102]
Originally by: snerdly Edited by: snerdly on 30/09/2007 04:20:24 Well, he said 'if he was removed by TRI'. And he wasn't removed by tri, so technically the bet conditions weren't fulfilled. I'm sure someone will post a pic of it in a moment.
Ah, hell, I will.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5115/veliosam2.jpg
Kablammo
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Don ZOLA
Caldari Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:26:00 -
[103]
if the roumors are true gratz to MM/RZR & co.
also props to M. Pire, CoW and Fatal cuz it takes balls to admit defeat. We saw plenty of dead alliances (i dont imply those 3 are) which never surrendered and fought much more on forums then for real...gl in your future fights, maybe its time that you chop a piece of space from BOB, cuz imho there is plenty of space deserted down south :)
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:38:00 -
[104]
Amazing move by BoB. It's quite impressive they command enough obedience even now to order people out of their space, ect.
It's going to take some time to fill that vaccuum. Let's hope RAGOON don't get hindered by the LV flunkies.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:39:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Don ZOLA if the roumors are true gratz to MM/RZR & co.
also props to M. Pire, CoW and Fatal cuz it takes balls to admit defeat. We saw plenty of dead alliances (i dont imply those 3 are) which never surrendered and fought much more on forums then for real...gl in your future fights, maybe its time that you chop a piece of space from BOB, cuz imho there is plenty of space deserted down south :)
Isn't a rumor. Its a fact.
The alliances themselves are fine. They'll just be fine somewhere else.
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Hulkrin
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:41:00 -
[106]
Congratulations to everyone on both sides, this was a classic and well fought campaign. For the most part pilots on both sides conducted themselves with dignity and skill, something that is not seen in EVE as often as it should.
Tri has been a wild card in this confrontation, and as always a class act. I'm not sure how much their involvement affected the outcome, as they inhibited Coalition forces as much (if not more) than M.pire and company. Basically, I think they made things extremely interesting for both sides, which is a good thing. 
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:41:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Attak
It's going to take some time to fill that vaccuum. Let's hope RAGOON don't get hindered by the LV flunkies.
Why would they hinder us the 2nd time?
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 04:48:00 -
[108]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Attak
It's going to take some time to fill that vaccuum. Let's hope RAGOON don't get hindered by the LV flunkies.
Why would they hinder us the 2nd time?
This time it's personal 
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Chomapuraku
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 05:07:00 -
[109]
a few days ago, m.pire loses a nyx. now, they surrender. coincidence?
(p.s. i know the moron lost his nyx because he was too busy popping t1 frigs and shuttles in low-sec. just making a joke. still, you'd think they'd "encourage" that arse-hat put his feckin ship into the fight if their space depended on it...
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Teufelhunden
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Posted - 2007.09.30 05:09:00 -
[110]
WOOT WOOT.... I'M DRUNK! =)
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Aerick Dawn
Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 05:25:00 -
[111]
I doubt it has anything to do with the ms.
We really started to apply alot of pressure on them approximately two weeks ago, and I have a feeling that was the straw that broke the camels back. I'm sure they can tell you themselves however.
Much respect to you guys, you fought hard.
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Shamed One
Omega Creche
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Posted - 2007.09.30 05:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Testosterone Bomb
Question, did Dungar of Pandemic ever accept the bet from Velios that if M. Pire was removed from Branch by the end of September he would hand over a Mothership?
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=8730&start=195
BTW you could say because of the raids Tri was doing that M. Pire was removed , does not really matter who they surrender to.
Sure it does matter. If they surrendered to RZR then RZR takes the claim for removing them. If they surrendered to TRI, then TRI can claim. Seeing as TRI was not even blue to RZR at the time this all occured, it is quite obvious that TRI did not remove M. Pire.
This is by no means any smack against TRI or RZR. Just saying that the bet Velios made is void seeing as another party has successfully removed M. Pire and friends.
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Demonor
Gallente Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.30 05:33:00 -
[113]
I have to say even those who have surrendered CONGRATS to everyone. Mpire Fatal and COW I know many great and respectful pilots in there alliance. They pushed and pushed and pushed. Hats off to the Blues!
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zilllii
Squirrel Power
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Posted - 2007.09.30 06:16:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Chomapuraku a few days ago, m.pire loses a nyx. now, they surrender. coincidence?
(p.s. i know the moron lost his nyx because he was too busy popping t1 frigs and shuttles in low-sec. just making a joke. still, you'd think they'd "encourage" that arse-hat put his feckin ship into the fight if their space depended on it...
you would think that before opening your rectum to speak you would know a few things about it. the end's nyx was fresh out from a M.M builder and was propably not completely fitted as he had it for just a couple of days. he was also going to jump up the very same day he got killed, he just got abit tempted to smarti some highly profitable shuttles first. and m.pire had nothing at all to do with the financing or building or even fitting it, a few members of m.pire had something to do with its destruction though. X13's target that day wasnt the end actually but mr.extreme in the other nyx that had jumped up north the same morning.
as for m.pire's surrender its quite obvious, no mc is coming to help them and no bobbits either. they are way to busy to come help so velios will most likely take his stuff and go down south to bobbit land for the upcoming utter fail, 3 in a row for velios then isnt it?
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Love the new need for speed initiative.
Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about wha
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 06:19:00 -
[115]
Originally by: zilllii
they are way to busy to come help so velios will most likely take his stuff and go down south to bobbit land for the upcoming utter fail, 3 in a row for velios then isnt it?
And for all his failures... hes still accomplished more in this game than say...
Yourself. 
I dont know about you, but id rather be a someone, who tried, and did not succeed, than nobody 
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.09.30 06:21:00 -
[116]
Well now that its over up north come on down south cause you never know what they are flying around with in their shuttles.
http://www.killboard.intrepidcrossing.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5936
Ooops! 
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 06:54:00 -
[117]
Props for surrendering. Mad respect.
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w0rmy
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 06:58:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Wormy i think w0rmy is a bit bitter
Dissapointed we didnt get a fight? Sure.
Saddened by the fact we had to move out of home? Sure.
RZR/MM and co organised very impressive numbers, my hat goes off to them for the force the applied this weekend.
But bitter? Not one bit.
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
Originally by: Dianabolic I was never sworn to secrecy, w0rmy, sorry to dissappoint you.
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zilllii
Squirrel Power
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Posted - 2007.09.30 07:05:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Wormy i think w0rmy is a bit bitter
velios perhaps but not w0rmy, he has never been the bitter type
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Love the new need for speed initiative.
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Meriones
The Singularity Project
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Posted - 2007.09.30 07:09:00 -
[120]
Grats to RZR/MM & co. 
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 08:12:00 -
[121]
Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 30/09/2007 08:13:13 Mucho respect to anyone involved in the north - friendlies, enemies, everyone.
To RAZOR Alliance / Morsus Mihi / Pure. / R0ADKILL / Mostly Harmless / Stella Polar / Chaos Incarnate. / Hydra Alliance / The Makhai / SMASH Alliance / Phoenix Allianz / Giant Space Amoeba / Imperial Republic Of the North / SynchronizerZ for bringing it on this final blow. From the most to the less involved.
To our directorship for a tough decision that not everybody would've went for. But it was also very fun and respectful after it happened, the teamwork of everyone in BKG (foes and friends) and local was a "must see". It was a nice reminder that we're all aiming to have fun. In the good or bad outcomes.
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Astarte Nosferatu
We Know Derek Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.30 08:29:00 -
[122]
Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 30/09/2007 08:30:04 To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
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Helen
Freelancer Ltd
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Posted - 2007.09.30 08:46:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 30/09/2007 08:30:04 To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
Unless BoB fracture internally the fighting will get harder the less space they have to defend...
Still should be interesting fighting soon.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:04:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 30/09/2007 08:30:04 To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:07:00 -
[125]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Edited by: Astarte Nosferatu on 30/09/2007 08:30:04 To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
Unsolicited advice is always a good idea.
By the way, did you know that Kentucky will soon be a top 10 team? While that might not seem relevant in COAD at first blush, it's far more relevant than your posting.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:09:00 -
[126]
Edited by: marakor on 30/09/2007 09:10:05
Originally by: marakor To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:13:00 -
[127]
Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 30/09/2007 09:10:05
Originally by: marakor To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
It's not often you see someone troll his/herself. Bravo!
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:16:00 -
[128]
Originally by: marakor To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:19:00 -
[129]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: marakor To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
You do realize that by editing out Astarte's name, which you've done twice now, you completely contradict every other post you've made in a thread that remotely touches on RSF, right? At first, I figured you were trying to be witty. Now, I'm beginning to think that you're....special.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:23:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:32:00 -
[131]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
Nice to see that even the "special" can take unsolicited advice. Keep this up and your posting may end up worthwhile after all.
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Twoside
Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:44:00 -
[132]
Wow, what an great victory, once Fallen Souls disappeared from the scene and with hostiles on both sides of the border, the 'new north' seemed not to be able to match the numbers of the 'northern nap monkeys'. Knowing when you've lost and taking your losses isn't an easy thing to do, so as much as a lot of us are happy with this victory, I hope M.Pire, Fatal and COW will bounce back on their feet soon enough.
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Gutsani
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:47:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Quoting this because even if the leadership tries to surrender it doesn`t mean that everyone will surrender. I for one am not going to surrender to Razor, Morsus Mihi et all.
Quoting cause your MY french canadian. French + Canadian little Haargoth, w'll see you in empire soon *kuddle*
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:48:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:51:00 -
[135]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
Seriously, you've trolled yourself silly. In kindness, stop before you ruin your good name.
See what I did there?
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other mickey
Gallente Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:52:00 -
[136]
So, this mean Mpire/Fatal/CoW moving south to help McBob? My guess would be they surrendered whilst still fairly strong so they can head south and help Bob fight IAC. Then, IF Bob have won some more space, Mpire/CoW/Fatal will have some new space to live in.
Well, just my theory :)
GL to MPire/CoW/Fatal on your future endeavours!
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 09:52:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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Velanth
Coalition of Nations
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:00:00 -
[138]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
You ever get tired of your own voice?
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:00:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu To M.Pire/FATAL/CoW: I advise you not to become a BoB pet down south again. The eastern front is slowly but steadily falling to Coalition hands, several alliances like yours are being evicted by the Southern Coalition as we speak. You could go live in Fountain, Period Basis, Paragorn Soul or Querious, but since we'll be dining in NOL on Christmas, it's a waste of time and isk to be honest. Go back to Empire for a bit, re-evaluate your alliegances, swallow your pride and start anew freed from BoB slavery.
To the Northern Coalition and TRI: If you're planning to open a new front against GBC down south, invade Delve, not Fountain. Delve has NPC stations you can work out from, it's BoB's Capital Region, it's a central region with direct access to Fountain, Period Basis, Querious and Empire space and you don't have any pets living there. Start taking stations in Delve, and BoB will have no choice but to tend to affairs in Delve, leaving the Eastern front to McPet to defend. At the current rate, Querious should fall in two to three months. Don't make the same mistake of going after Fountain, hurt them where it hurts most.
If this is a sample of future blobswarm and there pet/alts postings id say ppl need to start killing em before we all start getting helpful "advise/instruction" on the future wars we may want to fight.
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PraetorNZ
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:04:00 -
[140]
i go to work for 8 hours and FATAL and COW surrender too 
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Graph ro
Aquilae Stellaris YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:10:00 -
[141]
At least this time it was only 24 alliances, and not the 32 that attacked Fallen Souls. Still enough blob potential to overkill Mpire.
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Eurydyke
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:16:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Graph ro At least this time it was only 24 alliances, and not the 32 that attacked Fallen Souls. Still enough blob potential to overkill Mpire.
You¦re next
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Graph ro
Aquilae Stellaris YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:21:00 -
[143]
Well i wonder if we will be invaded by neutrals, high sp characters in npc corps. Who will it be ? Caldari Navy, Viziam ? Perkone ?
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:28:00 -
[144]
Huge public thanks to our allies, we made this happen together.
Props to our enemies. This was not over in 28 hours like some said. This has been an ongoing thingy since MC left where we started smelling serious blood when FS was neutralized.
Last and most though. Thanks to the people who stepped up and drove this offensive like it was meant to be. 24 hour drive and determination from extremely competent commanders and logistics heroes where it felt like you were always one step ahead. Made me smile the whole day yesterday. Huge thanks all.
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Lube Myholes
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:30:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Graph ro Well i wonder if we will be invaded by neutrals, high sp characters in npc corps. Who will it be ? Caldari Navy, Viziam ? Perkone ?
Next stop: Jita 4-4, please take seat and enjoy your ride.
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Draahk Chimera
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:37:00 -
[146]
About this "omg they brought so big blob, so many alliances"-stuff. This is how EVE-war is fought:
Alliance A want to take alliance B's station. Step 1: Knock out cyno jammers. To do this you need to warp battleships to a Deathstar. If you dont like loosing alot of ships you need enough a blob to: 1/ kill the jammer in short space of time and 2/ be safe from enemy attacks aswell as controlled pos-guns.
Step 2: Bring in capitals to knock poses out. No one, in this game, is gonna risk his 3b worth capital ship unless his buddies has done all they can to make him feel safe. That means big blob, you need L bubble on station and gates and enough people to hold system that the enemy cannot whipe you aside and start killing dreads.
Step 3: Keep system blobbed until sov change (5 days) so enemy cannot bring in their own capitals and/or anchor/rep own poses.
Step 4: Keep station bubbled and skirmish fighters in local so alliance B cannot undock until alliance B agrees to mutual light blue so they can get their carriers and freighters out and restart someplace else.
This is the only way to fight war in EVE. So unless CCP makes sov change in 1 day and posses killable by 20 guys in hacs youre gonna see blobs in station systems. So please inform me whats the big surprize that 300 or so "old north" came to take BKG? Would any of you have attempted it with 20 guys and 2 dread?
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DeadDuck
Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:39:00 -
[147]
If this is true, the result can be be all the Alliance forces focusing their forces in 3,4 regions... If I was a BOB/FIX/MC pilot I would be celebrating with the amount of friendly forces going south, working together, like they worked when D2 was wiped out.
Lets see what the upcoming months will bring.
Anyway, congratulations to the Northern forces if this is confirmed.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 10:49:00 -
[148]
I hav'nt seen a official from the fatal/mpire guys actualy confirm this yet but i must say it has been coming for a while.
Ever since FATAL brought in a bunch of carebears from ex-lv they were on a slippery slope to defeat. It is why i left 2-3 months ago and why a corp i have a lot of respect for left a few weeks ago. I think gunny saw the way the wind was blowing and bailed from the leadership of FATAL early, leaving it to others to take the hit on there reputations.
It is quite a supprise though that with nearly 3000 ppl on paper and a highly defensable area like the area around BKG is that the new north cannot hold it almost indefinatly or at least longer than they have. Perhaps its a cunning plan to form a solid front nearer BOB space so they can counter the uber blob of goons and their allies or just the result of letting to many parasitical carebears into their alliance's either way a full post by a FATAL or new north leader would be welcome for confirmation.
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Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:08:00 -
[149]
It is confirmed, just go to BKG and sit outside stn. Nothing to shoot :(
GF and GL Mpire/FALLEN/COWS ___________________________________________________
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Kirah Ovai
Altcenaries
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:10:00 -
[150]
Congratulations to the victorious northern forces, but I don't really envy you for the probably boring weeks of consolidating the northern regions, that lay ahead of you.
Just one question. Are the MC stations in Branch on the to-do list? (Not that I expect an answer to this.)
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:12:00 -
[151]
Edited by: R Worker102 on 30/09/2007 11:12:44 First of all its never was "the new north", they never earned there space in the first place. You can not keep something you did not earn. If they would of took the space they where living in with out the help of MC or any other type of hired gun, even if they didn't hire them, then it would of been a lot different.
Why well for one, you have to defend something you earned, your never really defend something that is giving to you as it holds no real value to you, just the value you think it holds.
RZR, MM, and other allies living up north for the longest time earned our space with hard work and team work. We will fight until the death for our space, we make back up once in a while but only to come back stronger.
Something that EMPIRE, FATAL, FALLON, COWS, can't or will not understand until they take and hold space they rally earned. They would of never stayed up there they will of never defended it the why someone who earned there space would of.
This goes to most of all old ASCN space, none of them alliance up there have earned there space they will not defend it as they did. Thats why they will fall and run to empire like everyone else up there. Some may take longer to drive back then others, as its a lot easy to defend a system then take it. But everyone falls when they have not earned it.
There are always going to be a few people on the map, your never find the map with out them. The people who earned there space with hard work planing and leadership. RA, GOONS, MM, RZR, TRI, and others will always hold space. We will be here 5 years from now when new alliance step up and try to have the balls to kick us out, and 10 years from now when they hold there own space.
If you earn something it worth a lot more to you, you hold it different then a gift, or something free. You know what it took to get it, to build or to help take it. Your defend it with a lot more force, your make sure you have allies and friends around you to help you keep it, and to help them keep there land when they come under fire.
So to EMPIRE, FATAL, COW, good fight, use your heads rethink a few things, you are a good force use that and go take your caps, and your membership and take a peace a space rebuild and your know what we up north are talking about.
Good luck to where ever you go.
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Neena Valdi
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:15:00 -
[152]
o7 GF Rzr & allies. Only shame that we weren't able to get more clear lagless fights, but thats only due to human nature and game mechanics.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:19:00 -
[153]
RZR kinda got the space after original northerns ( PA ) left :p
Still remember babysitting CEI pilots in their bb's ;-) _______________________
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:23:00 -
[154]
Edited by: R Worker102 on 30/09/2007 11:24:09
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE RZR kinda got the space after original northerns ( PA ) left :p
Still remember babysitting CEI pilots in their bb's ;-)
rzr earned that space, by fighting with FE who beside rzr help take there space they still hold today.
OH NBSI had rzr space back then PA had branch
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Myz Toyou
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:23:00 -
[155]
My only hope for FATAL/M-pire/COW:
Don`t make now the misstake to go south and buy your BOB friends a few more weeks, this will only end in the next fail! Stay neutral, rebuild and maybe in a few month from now you be able to grab a piece of land on your own and settle. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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Thodoros
Minmatar Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:26:00 -
[156]
True, Razor took old PA's space. Btw i like to personnaly thank all our allies in the coordinated attack in BKG. Lets take the war to the South now.
For whom the bells tolls...
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De Vito
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:26:00 -
[157]
GF Mpire/FALLEN/COWS
wtb> targets :(
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Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:27:00 -
[158]
So..... mpire and fatal took the space with help from an ally - and rzr got it back with help from about 15 allies. And Mpire are the ones who didnt earn it for themselves?
A straight fight without help from all and suundy and theMM / RZR combination would never have taken BKG.
Blobtastic.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:27:00 -
[159]
Originally by: R Worker102
First of all its never was "the new north", they never earned there space in the first place. You can not keep something you did not earn. If they would of took the space they where living in with out the help of MC or any other type of hired gun, even if they didn't hire them, then it would of been a lot different. Why well for one, you have to defend something you earned, your never really defend something that is giving to you as it holds no real value to you, just the value you think it holds..
FATAL and other fought up in branch to take the systems buddy and its not like RAZOR took back there systems without a lot of help.
And also initialy running from MC until they have left and then coming back with MM and half the drone area plus others does'nt make you the better or rightful space holders any more that the new north was.
Originally by: R Worker102 RZR, MM, and other allies living up north for the longest time earned our space with hard work and team work. We will fight until the death for our space, we make back up once in a while but only to come back stronger.
Something that EMPIRE, FATAL, FALLON, COWS, can't or will not understand until they take and hold space they rally earned. They would of never stayed up there they will of never defended it the why someone who earned there space would of.
You were not willing to fight to the death for it when FATAL/MC and allies took it from you, you ran until MC left and came back tried to take it a few times and failed until you had a blob big enough to do it.
Who do you think you are kidding with this self righteous drivel?.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:27:00 -
[160]
Originally by: R Worker102 rzr earned that space, by fighting with FE who beside rzr help take there space they still hold today.
OH NBSI had rzr space back then PA had branch
so, you piggy backed your ride to that space and thus, according to your own logic, you cannot keep it 
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Crax McGee
Silentium. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:30:00 -
[161]
Read this and get it clear. Mpire/Cow/Fatel are no way even close 2 'dead' all 3 of these alliances are Greater player for player than the northern Coalition - No Questions about that.
They had totally no choice, there was noway they could hold BKG with the sheer Numbers the northern Coalition had and i still cant get over how long Mpire/cow/Fatel managed to keep on to BKG for. these guys are fighters. through and through, and 2bh they need a bigger 'Well done' than Razer and co got for taking the station.
oh and stop using that 'epic fail' kids, its dam sad.
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hangnoose
Caldari DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:31:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Crax McGee Read this and get it clear. Mpire/Cow/Fatel are no way even close 2 'dead' all 3 of these alliances are Greater player for player than the northern Coalition - No Questions about that.
They had totally no choice, there was noway they could hold BKG with the sheer Numbers the northern Coalition had and i still cant get over how long Mpire/cow/Fatel managed to keep on to BKG for. these guys are fighters. through and through, and 2bh they need a bigger 'Well done' than Razer and co got for taking the station.
oh and stop using that 'epic fail' kids, its dam sad.
Epic fail
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Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:33:00 -
[163]
Classy guy- you reflect well on your alliance
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:34:00 -
[164]
Edited by: James Lyrus on 30/09/2007 11:34:54 Fun weekend all in, I have to say.
I lament a little the tactics necessary to win this kind of warfare - bringing a huge hammer and overwhelming force is a really good way to win (and I'm certainly not going to be faulting the attacking forces for doing so) - but I can't help but feel that 'massive blob + lag' is good for EVE as a whole.
So it goes. The prospect of not having weeks of fleet + lag + camp + pos shooting, I can't say bothers me overly.
Thanks to the guys in local. It was actually fairly cordial and friendly. I just wish it could have been under better circumstances :) -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP |

R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:35:00 -
[165]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: R Worker102
First of all its never was "the new north", they never earned there space in the first place. You can not keep something you did not earn. If they would of took the space they where living in with out the help of MC or any other type of hired gun, even if they didn't hire them, then it would of been a lot different. Why well for one, you have to defend something you earned, your never really defend something that is giving to you as it holds no real value to you, just the value you think it holds..
FATAL and other fought up in branch to take the systems buddy and its not like RAZOR took back there systems without a lot of help.
And also initialy running from MC until they have left and then coming back with MM and half the drone area plus others does'nt make you the better or rightful space holders any more that the new north was.
Originally by: R Worker102 RZR, MM, and other allies living up north for the longest time earned our space with hard work and team work. We will fight until the death for our space, we make back up once in a while but only to come back stronger.
Something that EMPIRE, FATAL, FALLON, COWS, can't or will not understand until they take and hold space they rally earned. They would of never stayed up there they will of never defended it the why someone who earned there space would of.
You were not willing to fight to the death for it when FATAL/MC and allies took it from you, you ran until MC left and came back tried to take it a few times and failed until you had a blob big enough to do it.
Who do you think you are kidding with this self righteous drivel?.
first of all, its was more like MC come up took the north and people followed after.
Fatal didn't fight for jack until right after MC did most maybe even all the hard work. Anyone who thinks they earned anything is a moron and needs to go back to preschool to learn basic reading and common sense.
They did the right thing leaving, we all hope they do the right thing and stay out of the south or they will be seeing the force that was in BKG right up there faces again.
We earned our space with our allies, MC isn't an allie to anyone other then the blues the pick up from paid jobs, and of course BOB.
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Solasta Kovacs
FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:36:00 -
[166]
Whenever numbers were even (ie not boosted by Tri, roadkill, smash etc) the fights were pretty even. Bring it on...
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mamolian
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:37:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Crax McGee Read this and get it clear. Mpire/Cow/Fatel are no way even close 2 'dead' all 3 of these alliances are Greater player for player than the northern Coalition - No Questions about that.
They had totally no choice, there was noway they could hold BKG with the sheer Numbers the northern Coalition had and i still cant get over how long Mpire/cow/Fatel managed to keep on to BKG for. these guys are fighters. through and through, and 2bh they need a bigger 'Well done' than Razer and co got for taking the station.
oh and stop using that 'epic fail' kids, its dam sad.
Cheers for the kind words, its been more fun up here than I've personally had anywhere else in game. Was a bit of a shock to log in this morning and find out the latest news, GF chaps.
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Imhotep Khem
Minmatar Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:38:00 -
[168]
Goodbye fair enemies 
I enjoyed fighting MM and RZR for the last few weeks leading up to this incursion. We has small skirmishes. Quick invasion fleets of vagabonds, T1 raids, POS shoosting, bubble camps, cap ships all around. Just about any kind of fight you can imagine. With 0 smak. I just joined MPIRE and it was a good call because that is some of the most fun I have had an any one month period in Eve.
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Sister Bliss
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:43:00 -
[169]
Congratulations to RZR/MM/PURE/Smash/RK/Tri/Hydra/Chaos/Rule/Mostly Harmless/Vae Victus/Cruel Intentions et al. for retaking BKG and Branch region in the week(s) to come.
The continuous pressure over the preceeding months and sheer weight of numbers ultimately has proven too much for us to defend against. The previous attacks on V7 and BKG were a lot of fun, however on this occasion you got your logistics and 24hr presence to bear where we could not respond. Disappointing that we couldn't have an epic battle to bow out over the weekend but there you go. The few of us who managed to get into BKG did our best and hopefully gave you guys some fun to shoot at while we lasted.
I think I am as surprised as anyone at the wholesale surrender and was looking forward to some more "backs against the wall" fighting.
Many thanks to all the pilots I flew with and against for some fantastic skirmishes and fleet battles (at least the ones where lag wasn't the killer or the victor). See you out there...
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:43:00 -
[170]
Edited by: xBlood on 30/09/2007 11:46:09
Originally by: Graph ro At least this time it was only 24 alliances, and not the 32 that attacked Fallen Souls. Still enough blob potential to overkill Mpire.
You sir are an embarrasment to YouWhat.
Fallen souls were getting massacred by TRI alone. You didn't stand a chance, even with your allies. I don't know who you're trying to kid here.
The involvment of RZR and co. taking your Branch stations merely speeded up the process of kicking you out. Fallen Souls were an embarrasment to M.Pire and friends, (who are very worthy oponents). My condolences to those in YouWhat.
Good luck to M.Pire and FATAL in whatever you do next. Loved fighting against you, and whoever you ally with next are lucky guys tbh 
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:44:00 -
[171]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 30/09/2007 11:45:13
Originally by: R Worker102
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: R Worker102
First of all its never was "the new north", they never earned there space in the first place. You can not keep something you did not earn. If they would of took the space they where living in with out the help of MC or any other type of hired gun, even if they didn't hire them, then it would of been a lot different. Why well for one, you have to defend something you earned, your never really defend something that is giving to you as it holds no real value to you, just the value you think it holds..
FATAL and other fought up in branch to take the systems buddy and its not like RAZOR took back there systems without a lot of help.
And also initialy running from MC until they have left and then coming back with MM and half the drone area plus others does'nt make you the better or rightful space holders any more that the new north was.
Originally by: R Worker102 RZR, MM, and other allies living up north for the longest time earned our space with hard work and team work. We will fight until the death for our space, we make back up once in a while but only to come back stronger.
Something that EMPIRE, FATAL, FALLON, COWS, can't or will not understand until they take and hold space they rally earned. They would of never stayed up there they will of never defended it the why someone who earned there space would of.
You were not willing to fight to the death for it when FATAL/MC and allies took it from you, you ran until MC left and came back tried to take it a few times and failed until you had a blob big enough to do it.
Who do you think you are kidding with this self righteous drivel?.
first of all, its was more like MC come up took the north and people followed after.
Fatal didn't fight for jack until right after MC did most maybe even all the hard work. Anyone who thinks they earned anything is a moron and needs to go back to preschool to learn basic reading and common sense.
They did the right thing leaving, we all hope they do the right thing and stay out of the south or they will be seeing the force that was in BKG right up there faces again.
We earned our space with our allies, MC isn't an allie to anyone other then the blues the pick up from paid jobs, and of course BOB.
YOU ran from MC/FATAL and you came back lost a few big fleet fights in BKG until you gathered a big enough blob to beat them, a lot of the blob was non-RAZOR and if you think that theres anybody who does'nt know that your the moron pal.
And tri left the fight in BKG cos of your incompetant fcing btw.
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Kirah Ovai
Altcenaries
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:48:00 -
[172]
It's pretty silly to argue about who earned their space and who didn't. Fact is M.Pire, FATAL and CoW held space in the north. How they got it is really secondary.
There's only one truth and that's if you don't have the military OR diplomatic means to secure your space, you're going to lose it. RAZOR might not have had the military power to take M.Pire's space in a 1vs1 (or not in that short a time anyway), but they obviously are the better diplomats.
Crying about numbers only makes you look like a sore loser.
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Sister Bliss
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 11:59:00 -
[173]
Originally by: R Worker102 Fatal didn't fight for jack until right after MC did most maybe even all the hard work. Anyone who thinks they earned anything is a moron and needs to go back to preschool to learn basic reading and common sense.
I'll usually refrain from getting involved in this nonsense but you are actually wrong here. FATAL moved an entire fleet up to Branch and joined the party with over 100+ participants. I know as I was personally there and attended every fleet op for 2 weeks during which BKG/OE-/S-E/EQI/D4R station systems were taken.
In all honesty, no we were not there when LXW fell and a lot of work had already been done against BKG system before we arrived. However from there on in, we made up a significant part of the fleet force that cleaned out Branch and Tenal. You can check the killboards if you want actual evidence as follows:
http://www.fatal.eve-alliance.net/KillBoard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6545
http://www.fatal.eve-alliance.net/KillBoard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6682
etc.
Anyway this is kinda off-topic and is really de-railing what shouls be handshakes all round for some good fights in what is a game :-)
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Sha Kharn
Minmatar STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:12:00 -
[174]
Im guessing this is my EVE-O post for the year as I tend to avoid these forums but I think a small post is merited.
Well it was a good home BKG and of course IÆm sad to be leaving. So many respectable reds around us and even better friends made for heaps of fun and will be missed greatly. COW and Fatal it was wicked flying with you guys and I hope you donÆt forget the good times us foot soldiers had together despite what decisions were made up top (yea I recon we could have won easy too ).
Congrats To the soon to be owners of bkg and lwx may you have as much fun in the area as we have had over the last few months defending it. It really was pew pew pew when ever we wanted so my thanks go out to all of you that were red for that.
As yet I have no idea what MPIRE leadership has in store for us but if the last few months are anything to go by then I am looking forward to it already. Some say measure yourself not by ho high you rise but by how high you bounce backàor something like that well IÆm kinda fond of that line of thinking. It takes real men to keep getting back up and when I look around me at my close friends I find myself honored to stand amongst some of the finest.
As to the trolls well I truly pity the spite you harbor for others within a great game such as EVE, no doubt it reflects a portion of your real life personaÆs so enjoy your forum bashing and rip my post apart I expect nothing less lol.
See you all in space.
Tomcatt I have already sent 50 mil
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Jagged VanEyck
Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:24:00 -
[175]
To Rzr and Co:
Thx for the good fights. I am not one of those that love fleet engagements, pos attacks and blob-warfare. Im talking about the roaming gangs you had going through our space daily. xHomicide, Ernest/Serina, and crew. Knowing you guys were coming up the pipe meant fun was in store and it was those small engagements that I enjoyed the most. I preferred that a lot better than sitting in the fleet blob hoping I popped the guy coming through the gate before his grid loaded..hehe. But overall, much respect for the dedication you had in your push for branch. Well fought and I'm sure we'll be seeing you again on the field. "No drone left behind..."
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:30:00 -
[176]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
YOU ran from MC/FATAL and you came back lost a few big fleet fights in BKG until you gathered a big enough blob to beat them, a lot of the blob was non-RAZOR and if you think that theres anybody who does'nt know that your the moron pal.
And tri left the fight in BKG cos of your incompetant fcing btw.
I don't know who "R Worker102" is, but my guess is that you think he's RZR affiliated...
When MC came to Branch and Tenal, we tried to help D2 keep BKG and LXW, but the sheer numbers and capitals and broken MS and titans weren't something that we could match. Branch fell and then, Tenal fell. We've put up fights, even assembled 300 in BKG once, put 3 hostile POSes in RF, but D2 was falling and on our own we couldn't keep the pace.
How were we supposed to match them when they could defend a POS with a single MS???
RZR retreated and 2 weeks later stroke a weaker opponent, which was ****.
Why are you blaming us for being relentless in our attacks???
Really, why are you trying to prove?
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:39:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
YOU ran from MC/FATAL and you came back lost a few big fleet fights in BKG until you gathered a big enough blob to beat them, a lot of the blob was non-RAZOR and if you think that theres anybody who does'nt know that your the moron pal.
And tri left the fight in BKG cos of your incompetant fcing btw.
I don't know who "R Worker102" is, but my guess is that you think he's RZR affiliated...
When MC came to Branch and Tenal, we tried to help D2 keep BKG and LXW, but the sheer numbers and capitals and broken MS and titans weren't something that we could match. Branch fell and then, Tenal fell. We've put up fights, even assembled 300 in BKG once, put 3 hostile POSes in RF, but D2 was falling and on our own we couldn't keep the pace.
How were we supposed to match them when they could defend a POS with a single MS???
RZR retreated and 2 weeks later stroke a weaker opponent, which was ****.
Why are you blaming us for being relentless in our attacks???
Really, why are you trying to prove?
I think he was trying to refute that alts claims of Mpire and friends not worthy to have their space.
The alt claimed that Mpire and friends jumped on the band wagon to take the space...and all he did was show how RZR and friends did exactly the same.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:42:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
YOU ran from MC/FATAL and you came back lost a few big fleet fights in BKG until you gathered a big enough blob to beat them, a lot of the blob was non-RAZOR and if you think that theres anybody who does'nt know that your the moron pal.
And tri left the fight in BKG cos of your incompetant fcing btw.
I don't know who "R Worker102" is, but my guess is that you think he's RZR affiliated...
When MC came to Branch and Tenal, we tried to help D2 keep BKG and LXW, but the sheer numbers and capitals and broken MS and titans weren't something that we could match. Branch fell and then, Tenal fell. We've put up fights, even assembled 300 in BKG once, put 3 hostile POSes in RF, but D2 was falling and on our own we couldn't keep the pace.
How were we supposed to match them when they could defend a POS with a single MS???
RZR retreated and 2 weeks later stroke a weaker opponent, which was ****.
Why are you blaming us for being relentless in our attacks???
Really, why are you trying to prove?
Try looking into the context of my reply and you will see.
Matey boy recons that mpire/fatal lost space cos they did'nt earn it by fighting solo for it while razor did. My reply is that razor were hardly on there own when they initialy took branch and tenal and they comprised of im told less than 60% of the fleets that took it back.
Read up the replies and check how much crap he is talking and if yopur honest i think you may see my point.
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Ironass
Amarr Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:46:00 -
[179]
Good fun to M Pire, Fatal & CoW, you guys were quite the pain from time to time.
Most annoying player(s) would have to be the people camping our pipe while we're were in a mutual defense of our respective space.
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Jokim
Dawn of a new Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:53:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Jokim on 30/09/2007 12:54:14 Thanks for the fight m.pire and gang
Had some pretty nice fights
Ionass, given up on WoW ? :P Hows les ?
Oh and how do i enable my corp thingie ? Im in PURE edit: works now :D
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:55:00 -
[181]
I'm sorry, I must be tired.
I'll step out of the discussion by saying, that although getting on the MC bandwagon was a bit too much of an overkill in the race to get space asap, Mpire is definately a capable alliance. I don't like their alignment, but I can't refute their capabilities. I know a lot less related to Fatal.
Fare well and better luck next time.
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zykerx
Lo0nEy To0nS R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 12:57:00 -
[182]
gratz to all
i bet everyone had there funn moments and there boring laggfests at times
tobad ccp couldnt handle the load as v7- rly sucked forme personally, tomuch lagg, nochange for good pewpew and when i did get pewpew i did get truncated 
wil be interesting to see were this pvper force is gooing (cow/mpire/fatal)
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"MY COMMENTS IN NO WAY REFLECT MY CORP OR ALLIANCE"
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Keidre
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 13:03:00 -
[183]
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Crax McGee Read this and get it clear. Mpire/Cow/Fatel are no way even close 2 'dead' all 3 of these alliances are Greater player for player than the northern Coalition - No Questions about that.
They had totally no choice, there was noway they could hold BKG with the sheer Numbers the northern Coalition had and i still cant get over how long Mpire/cow/Fatel managed to keep on to BKG for. these guys are fighters. through and through, and 2bh they need a bigger 'Well done' than Razer and co got for taking the station.
oh and stop using that 'epic fail' kids, its dam sad.
Epic fail
Fail of epic proportions
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.30 13:07:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Crax McGee Read this and get it clear. Mpire/Cow/Fatel are no way even close 2 'dead' all 3 of these alliances are Greater player for player than the northern Coalition - No Questions about that.
They had totally no choice, there was noway they could hold BKG with the sheer Numbers the northern Coalition had and i still cant get over how long Mpire/cow/Fatel managed to keep on to BKG for. these guys are fighters. through and through, and 2bh they need a bigger 'Well done' than Razer and co got for taking the station.
Please explain to me how a coalition of 3000 players (on paper) who as you say are greater player by player, have a capital fleet of over 130 lost that space?.
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Sir Ector
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 13:49:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Sir Ector on 30/09/2007 13:49:29 It¦s not about how many allies you have. We had 400+ pilots in bkg with our 15 allies this weekends and some weeks ago Fatal,fall,m.pire, cow managed to put together 400+ pilots in bkg. What¦s the diffrence?
Is it still 15 VS 4 ?
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Sister Bliss
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 13:56:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Sir Ector Edited by: Sir Ector on 30/09/2007 13:49:29 It¦s not about how many allies you have. We had 400+ pilots in bkg with our 15 allies this weekends and some weeks ago Fatal,fall,m.pire, cow managed to put together 400+ pilots in bkg. What¦s the diffrence? Is it still 15 VS 4 ?
The max we've had was about 250 but actually there is a big difference, since it's the same ppl who have been defending BKG/Branch every night for the last 6 weeks, player by player. This is not a whinge/whine in any way, however drafting in a large number of allies provides the opportunity to cycle pilots in and out of the field so they can recuperate, earn ISK and get new ships etc.
If we could have mustered the same number of blue alliances as you guys have we'd have done the same thing so no-one should be crying about it :-)
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.30 13:56:00 -
[187]
I was sorry to see some ex-comrades fighting for BoB. :/ I never thought STK Scientific would go to "the Dark Side." Here's hoping those guys buy a clue and reconsider.
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Sha4d13
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:05:00 -
[188]
Yeah... cos fighting for RAGOON gives you the moral high ground!!!
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Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:06:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Trask Kilraen I was sorry to see some ex-comrades fighting for BoB. :/ I never thought STK Scientific would go to "the Dark Side." Here's hoping those guys buy a clue and reconsider.
When they joined m.pire they said they weren't joining bob as m.pire was not a bob pet. That was true.
What will m.pire do now? Will they help defend BOB?
I'm betting a mothership on it 
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:19:00 -
[190]
And on a lighter note - Seen in BKG Local... sometimes ago
- "MPIRE - PREPARE FOR GLORY!" - "Oh shut up already and get down that POS to help me with dinner" - "but 'my QUEEN... by my wife... my love'" - "Ok I've had enough, I'm throwing that dvd away!" - "ARH! gurrgl! it's been an honor to have lived by your side!"
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:27:00 -
[191]
Well it has been fun, to our opponents and our proponents alike i only have to say that, we fought through mud, blood, wrecks and biomass together, and it has ben fun.
Props for never letting us down for a fight :)
M.PIRE, always a pleasure.
D
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Mourning Starr
FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:35:00 -
[192]
My time in Branch has largely restored my faith in this game after the sh***y end we met in LV. RZR, MM et al have been the absolute best of enemies and I hope you guys continue to go from strength to strength. The honourable way you guys are overseeing the temporary nap is exemplary to the entire game, I think I've heard talk of you guys actually escorting some of our pilots to empire earlier today!
To M.Pire and CoW, I really do hope we'll contiue to work together in some capacity as I've had an absolute blast sharing squads and TS channels with y'all. Thanks to everyone in FATAL, espcially Sister Bliss for his outstanding leadership, from the front where it should be!
Finally, all those of you who have offered their 'kind' advice what the three of us should do in the wake of our departure from Branch, in terms of rethinking our alignment etc - you all know where you can stick it. We will do whatever suit us as long as it garners what we collectively value most in his game - fun and fights!! 
See you all in hell 07 
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General StarScream
Cybertronic Decepticons
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:39:00 -
[193]
i did it
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Goktar illiat
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:43:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Trask Kilraen I was sorry to see some ex-comrades fighting for BoB. :/ I never thought STK Scientific would go to "the Dark Side." Here's hoping those guys buy a clue and reconsider.
this. I'd wish people understood that once bob is gone its gonna be one big standing reset.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:44:00 -
[195]
now the standings mess start :p ------
Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:48:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Goktar illiat
Originally by: Trask Kilraen I was sorry to see some ex-comrades fighting for BoB. :/ I never thought STK Scientific would go to "the Dark Side." Here's hoping those guys buy a clue and reconsider.
this. I'd wish people understood that once bob is gone its gonna be one big standing reset.
Then why bring the drone area blue to goon blob up to fight in bkg?.
I like razor and i understand you wanna be anti-bob but to be pro-goon would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:57:00 -
[197]
respect to m.pire and their friends for the fights we have had up north.
I somehow have a feeling we will face each other again in other regions
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Steve Southern
FATAL Inquisition FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 14:59:00 -
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As with many people I never post in here due to the amount of crap that appears in here.
However this once I will break my own rule to give kudos to Rzr et all for a good fight in the North. As they stated they wanted bkg and the area back and this is exactly what they have done. I do feel a slight upset to think that the possible good battles we could have had have been cut short but such is life.
As for the rest of the idiots posting on this thread and as always derailing the topic..sad as always.
Enjoy what you have fought hard for Rzr and friends
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General StarScream
Cybertronic Decepticons
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Posted - 2007.09.30 15:00:00 -
[199]
Haha BOb pets gona die now.
YE are all cursed CURSED i tell you
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Chequrself
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 15:15:00 -
[200]
It really is sad that a conflict that was conducted with such mutual respect in almost all, if not all, engagements winds up with a chest beating and e-peen measuring contest in coad. Our defeated, but not destroyed, foes deserve better, as do we.
To M.Pire/Fatal/Cow/Fallen, it has been both a pleasure and an honour to face you on the battlefield. I was as shocked as you were, when the news of the surrender filtered through to those of us seiging the pos in EQI. I am sure, however, that this is not the last time we shall share a battlefield. I would like to say good luck in you next venture, but I cannot as I suspect it will be to help BoD. If it is not tho then Good Luck, Fly Safe and Good Hunting.
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Mythrell
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.30 16:39:00 -
[201]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Then why bring the drone area blue to goon blob up to fight in bkg?.
I like razor and i understand you wanna be anti-bob but to be pro-goon would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
You do realise that for example MH is mostly ex-D2, which in turn were in control of Branch etc until MC + others steamrolled us. Obiviously most of us wanted to see these new invaders gone and that area to be returned in our long time friends hands.
I enjoyed our fights over all (missed these last couple days tho), I hope Fatal M. Pire Cows (uuh how fresh joke!) find a new home, they were fun to fight and even if we (or razor + pets, how ever you like it) finally won, they did drive our forces out of BKG once (which is, sadly, more than D2 ever did to defend it).
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.30 16:52:00 -
[202]
Originally by: ArmyOfMe respect to m.pire and their friends for the fights we have had up north.
I somehow have a feeling we will face each other again in other regions
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. wait.. no thats right. --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:11:00 -
[203]
Congrats RZR/MM/Etc. for pushing petswarm out of the North.
I just wish you had rejected their surrender and demolished them to prevent them from returning South to reinforce BoB, because we all know where they are going.
For now, all eyes will be on the South to see what difference, if any, these events will make.
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Ivor Gunn
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Posted - 2007.09.30 17:15:00 -
[204]
Originally by: NATMav Congrats RZR/MM/Etc. for pushing petswarm out of the North.
Who are you?
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:13:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Sha4d13 Yeah... cos fighting for RAGOON gives you the moral high ground!!!
QFT!
All aboard! Bandwagon is about to leave! Next stop: Feytabolis! CHOO CHOO!
Seriously, there is more people in RAGOON side than in BoB side. I'm ready to defend smaller one naturally.
Concord offers PUNISHMENT, not protection
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:22:00 -
[206]
Congratulations to the Northern Coalition for an impressive victory.
Congratulations to the defeated, for their long holding resistance. They have earned respect on the battlefield.
As far as I understand m.pire & co need a rest atm to rebuild. I can only hope this time is also used to reconcider which side they support, or possible neutrality in the war.
EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:27:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 30/09/2007 18:27:49
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: NATMav Congrats RZR/MM/Etc. for pushing petswarm out of the North.
Who are you?
Someone with a grudge obviously.  Anyway, in contrast to NATMav, I have no idea what m.pire, fatal and especially cow are going to do now, whole surrender came a bit fast and unexpected at this point. Need to find/define a new goals and that takes some time now.
So grats to Razor&friends to their victory.
I hope each of our alliances m.corp, fatal, cow makes new plans and keeps going. And yes, special thanks to Sister Bliss from FATAL, who was FC'ing a lot and put a lot of effort/time into the whole defense and planning counter attacks etc.
Ok, that's all I wanted to say. At this point I'm only interested in what my corp and alliance wants to do, not what haters or chearleaders expects us to do. This whole development is about us from my perspective, not about goons/bob. ___________ I've never been so serious as I am now. No, really. |

Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:30:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Gumpy Nighthawk on 30/09/2007 18:35:27 Props to M.pire/Fatal/Cow, to bad the real offence only lasted so short, but all the fights that i've been in against you guys have been fun and i think mostly important 99% smack free.
Hope to see you soon, so that we can fight eachother again :)
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Kirja
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:33:00 -
[209]
Not the first time FATAL makes a "tactical retreat".
Mad props for bringing it.
------------------------------------ My posts have nothing to do with corp/alliance policy.
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Zanarkand
Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:35:00 -
[210]
Hmmmmm....
What will happen to oe- and r-y now? ,
Except for the:
1) logoffskies, which some why STILL haven't been fixed by ccp 2) local(CoW smacked quite bad, too) 3) POS lag war
I enjoyed it..
Good Job -RZR- & co. You handled it 7,862 times better compared to Red Alliance/Goonswarm.
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Evenfall Phoenix
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:39:00 -
[211]
Props to M.Pire and Co. You guys almost always fought smack free and to have that much professionalism in a commendable thing.
Good luck to you, hopefully you will let yourselves recover and strengthen and then find a new place in Eve. I was there when LV fell, I was here when the "New North" fell... and the last thing I want to see is a great group of resilient pilots fall again. Best of luck to you all!
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Nobues
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:50:00 -
[212]
To all who was fighting up north good work, good job, and the fights on both sides where good. I've been in many where one side smashed the other rzr and co not always on top. Both sides are very able bodies to hold space, but looks like the stronger is on top. We used out heads and called in many allies for something we wanted, goals where simple.
Both sides did everything to keep/kill the other, for that thanks, many good fights happened that I'll always remember.
Good luck in where ever you go mpire, cow, and fatal, just hope you use your heads and stay away from the south. Webhosting & Killboard for you, your corp, and your Alliance Click me for more info |

Ivor Gunn
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:53:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Kirja Not the first time FATAL makes a "tactical retreat".
Mad props for bringing it.
WTF? This is the second goon-esque smack post i've seen from a RA member today. Are they recruiting from that cesspit now, too?
Quote: My posts have nothing to do with corp/alliance policy.
You're posting in CAOD with your corp/alliance tickers on, EVERYTHING you post is a direct reflection your corp and your alliance. This is especially true considering RA's usual policy of distancing themselves from forum warrioring.
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Hitman396
Caldari UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:56:00 -
[214]
GG guys, had alot of fun over the past few months :)
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Katherine Marx
Muff Diving
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Posted - 2007.09.30 19:59:00 -
[215]
gj M.Pire/FATAL/CoW takes alot of balls to surrender in front of the whole EVE community.
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Jumpgate Jack
Northern Exposure
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:08:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Ivor Gunn You're posting in CAOD with your corp/alliance tickers on, EVERYTHING you post is a direct reflection your corp and your alliance.
So the only way for people to express themselves without having their opinion attributed to their corp/alliance is to post using an alt right? You can't have it both ways.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:09:00 -
[217]
Edited by: Kirja on 30/09/2007 20:11:01 double post
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Kernel Sander
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:09:00 -
[218]
Wow, lotta bloviating and bull**** in this thread about who has the less legitimate claim to the north. The truth is that the northern war (which I mostly just passively witnessed) had huge numbers of twists and turns and all sides had some remarkable achievements.
Not ever mentioned here is the fact that ones' allegience in the war was mostly academic for most northern alliances until the day GoonSwarm showed up in Cloud Ring in a staggering - and impressively coordinated - surprise attack. YOUWHAT was overwhelmed in minutes (seriously, minutes, the GS attack was perfectly executed) and fell back to lowsec, vowing to return, and the war in the North looked finished before it even got started.
But for all the anti-YOUWHAT smack in CAOD, they were completely serious about returning. And a week or so later they did, alongside an unstoppable MC fleet that seemed to shrug aside all opposition (and still holds sovereignity in the far north as a testament to their offensive). The North collapsed under the weight of the MC steamroller, and once again the war looked to be over before it got started.
But over time Razor took on the mantle of lead alliance and, with a lot of hard work and some fantastic strategic decisions, they managed to effect the current surrender.
Is that the end of it? Who knows? The northern war has turned on a dime before. YOUWHAT still holds Cloud Ring, which is BoB's new northern frontier, and are now the third largest alliance in the game. For all the smack directed at them in the past, I would note that they still hold Cloud Ring, so are manifestly doing something right.
Obviously things do look somewhat different. The position of the north is predicated heavily on events in the south, and BoB really does seem to be in trouble right now. But M.Pire/CoW/fatal are still very strong, they simply saw the hopelessness of their present strategic position. IF they move to the southern front and help shore up defenses there, they may very well free BoB or MC up for an offensive and... well... the north's situation could rapidly become tenuous again.
Anyhow, I doubt the north's part in all of this is over. So maybe save the loony IWIN claims for after the war is over.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:10:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
WTF? This is the second goon-esque smack post i've seen from a RA member today. Are they recruiting from that cesspit now, too?
Hold your horses, nameless smack-alt. Since when stating a simple fact has become a smack?
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
You're posting in CAOD with your corp/alliance tickers on,
Now, now... that explains it why your corp ticker is switched off. Afraid of getting a slap in the face from SirMolle, mr BoB alt?
Originally by: Ivor Gunn EVERYTHING you post is a direct reflection your corp and your alliance. This is especially true considering RA's usual policy of distancing themselves from forum warrioring.
You really need to check your head mate. The lack of braincells prevent you from making logical conclusions. Now bakc to your cage alt.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:58:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Jumpgate Jack
Originally by: Ivor Gunn You're posting in CAOD with your corp/alliance tickers on, EVERYTHING you post is a direct reflection your corp and your alliance.
So the only way for people to express themselves without having their opinion attributed to their corp/alliance is to post using an alt right? You can't have it both ways.
If you post with an alt, you're a blowhard who's not prepared to back up their word.
If you post with your main, it's taken as a reflection of you, your corp, and your alliance.
Some might conclude that there is no way to win. They'd probably be right, actually.
More accurately though, if you 'post well' with clear, polite, well reasoned and eloquent posts, you reflect positively on your alliance (and corp, and yourself). -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP |
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.30 21:32:00 -
[221]
Originally by: "Marcuis; M. Corp; M. PIRE" mhmm you sound like a idot or a fool, telling us the Tri goin run Mpire out of BKG, I think its time you get your intel right or facts correct?. On that note you pathic RA pet when was Mpire ever part of BOB or MC pets , I Dont see how you think this is true everyone whos against BOB and MC thing other allainces are pets which isnt so true.. as right now the NEW NORTH (MPIRE, FATAL, COW, FALLEN SOULS) keep on fighting well done boys
Originally by: "MeatwagonUK; M. Corp; M. PIRE" I'm not really one to join in the smackfests, but lol. You should really get a clue before coming on here spouting crap. Do you have any idea how many pos's MPIRE have lost since we came to the north? How about how many we've blown up?
We've lost literally none since we have come up here, a couple have gone into reinforced, so I guess they cost us a bit of stront, gg. In v7 RZR lost 13 Large POS's. In BKG currently we've destroyed 2 small, 1 med, and I think 3 or 4 large during the current 'invasion'. All the other non-MPIRE pos's in system are reinforced and will be destroyed when they come out.
So if you are up for making a wager when you actually know the facts, then you may as well send the isk over now.
Originally by: "MeatwagonUK; M. Corp; M. PIRE" ...
TRI and RZR have been worthy opponents, but I keep seeing people on here who do **** all ingame and just come on here and brag about their 'friendlies' achievements.
Btw, didn't you used to live round here?
Originally by: "MeatwagonUK; M. Corp; M. PIRE" Taking a system > Killing a few ships
Pretty sure we took your system, AND killed a ****load of your ships. Kthxbye
Originally by: "MarKand; M. Corp; M. PIRE" BKG- 363 ships destroyed in the last 24 hours. 2007.09.02 xx:xx:xx Combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II places an excellent hit on Minmatar Control Tower [CEI]<-RZR->(Minmatar Control Tower), inflicting 928.9 damage.
Really sums it up actually :D
lol
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:18:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: Kirja Not the first time FATAL makes a "tactical retreat".
Mad props for bringing it.
WTF? This is the second goon-esque smack post i've seen from a RA member today. Are they recruiting from that cesspit now, too?
Quote: My posts have nothing to do with corp/alliance policy.
You're posting in CAOD with your corp/alliance tickers on, EVERYTHING you post is a direct reflection your corp and your alliance. This is especially true considering RA's usual policy of distancing themselves from forum warrioring.
Perhaps they just don't like LV one-offs as much as they didn't like LV. Maybe the blood still boils over the same people that pushed RA to the edge of survival? In any case, they pushed back, in a big way, and now they get to grin about their demise, for the second time.
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Mourning Starr
FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:29:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Kirja Not the first time FATAL makes a "tactical retreat".
Mad props for bringing it.
****
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:30:00 -
[224]
Cache is pretty empty these days....
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Ivor Gunn
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:34:00 -
[225]
Originally by: NATMav Perhaps they just don't like LV one-offs as much as they didn't like LV. Maybe the blood still boils over the same people that pushed RA to the edge of survival? In any case, they pushed back, in a big way, and now they get to grin about their demise, for the second time.
And again, i ask, who the **** are you to talk for RA and LV? You're nothing but a nameless forum ***** who once fronted a pet alliance who accomplished nothing except sit there and whine about how there were too many capitals attacking you for you to do anything.
RA were never near the edge of demise, their core of experienced, legendary players never left them. Which is why they have people's respect. Some idiot posting smacktalk with RA tags on does nothing but sully their name.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:35:00 -
[226]
MM, Razor and the rest of our bloc were always in this for the long-term. A few set-backs here and there while we probed the defenses and capabilities of our worthy adversaries. We finally settled upon a strategy right about the time we were finishing up on our operation to pull the M.Pire/FATAL forces back from their southern road-trip. The decision was made to take advantage of Fallen Souls' situation and hit them. They surrendered fairly quickly and took with them a fair chunk of the forces of our enemies.
The two weeks or so prior to this weekend's assault on BKG saw us massing our logistics and preparing for a longer-term assault on Branch, specifically BKG. Unlike the previous attempt, we would be focused on keeping our target suppressed until we were done. Leading up to the assault, we hit and destroyed many, many POS in systems around the Branch region and destroyed several capitals and other ships along the way. Most of MM basically moved out of Tribute and into Venal to be within a better striking position of our targets.
M.Pire/FATAL/CoW were all good fighters. We were braced for a fairly long assault on BKG, but it wasn't to be. While this weekend's assault was over relatively quickly, the actual fight for these regions against these enemies has been going on for a few months, now. The pressure was kept up on these entities for quite some time. To their credit, they were putting pressure on Tenal, as well. Personally, I believed the stepped up pressure during both US and EU TZs during the past few weeks accelerated things in our favor. This should not be looked at as a quick collapse. I think these guys were under a fair amount of pressure over an extended period of time. Clearly, their leadership was seeing the writing on the wall and without much hope of reinforcement from elsewhere, it was probably just going to be a matter of time.
I don't really know why anyone keeps harping on numbers or numbers of alliances. Anyone will use whatever they have at their disposal to win. Why waste time an effort without giving yourself the best chance to achieve your goals? Frankly, one or two guys showing up from a given alliance doesn't constitute the full weight or effort of that alliance, regardless of how small. Anyone who thinks its a treat coordinating operations with so many entities should give it a try sometime and learn the truth. Both sides proved the ability to out-blob the other when they wanted to. Our efforts to split Fallen Souls off from the rest of the herd proved to be a smart move. They were providing a significant force to our adversaries and I believe their departure made an impact.
It has been noted earlier in this thread, but I'll say it again. I was struck by the eagerness with which staunch enemies only hours before began quickly cooperating and helping each other out once and end to the hostilities was negotiated. Just as there was very little smack, there simply wasn't a lot of hate or even dislike, either. The circumstances were such that we were red to each other and we each carried out the aims of our various camps to the best of our abilities. We may very well have not seen the last of M.Pire, FATAL or CoW on the battlefield. Maybe the best thing would have been to not accept their surrender and continue to prosecute the conflict to its bitter conclusion. I choose to believe that these guys earned the right to be able to withdraw with most of their possessions intact. I'm sure I'm not alone in wishing these guys the best wherever they land. It probably won't be long before we're all shooting each other again somewhere else for some other reason. That's just the way of things.
Few if any entities accomplish notable feats 100% on their own. Everyone has friends and everyone needs them. Smacking and hating over that sort of thing is pretty immature, in my view.
Thanks for the fights, guys. o7
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:35:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Kaaii
Cache is pretty empty these days....
Already sizing up new homes?
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.30 22:39:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Kaaii
Cache is pretty empty these days....
Already sizing up new homes?
Would you trust them with a POS?
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codac
Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:00:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Orree
Thanks for the fights, guys. o7
Props to Orree for an informative and BS free post.
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Gerowien Sunrunner
Caldari Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:55:00 -
[230]
Thanks Orree Verdammt...da hat die Schwerkraft schon wieder gewonnen ! |
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Widowed Bride
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Posted - 2007.09.30 23:57:00 -
[231]
First of all posting on an alt, since the general idea in CAOD is that if i post with my main somehow my entire alliance thinks like me, which is BS. Without individualism in an alliance we'd all be goonswarm. With that said:
Mpire Fatal and Cow: It is truely unfortunate that things had to end this way. However when one chooses a side in a war, they must face the consequences of what their allies do. Political power blocs are in place in this game, as much as you may not understand why you are even considered pets, you did ride on the back of bobs #1 pet MC to get your space in the north. How you gained your space in my eyes is how everyone does, however the problem their can be defined simply as you chose your side in this war. Not only did you choose a side you chose one on the frontline of combat.
I was starting to believe you were becoming a seperate entity of bob and co. until you went south to defend FIX against AAA and IAC. In this action you may have forever sealed your title as pets. They called and you came. The north is back to a large NAP now fest which i despise, but I will suck it up as the bigger picture of this game needs to be examined. I have the strongest of beliefs in that once the war is over 0.0 will be back to roaming gangs, standing resets, and no POS wars. Out of all the pets in this game, you deserve your space more than anyone. You dont bend over and die like Rise, you dont need the help of Mercenary Coalition to defend your space like Fix. You dont rest peacefully between BoB and Youwhat like Exuro Mortis. You dont rent space and expect bob to provide all your pvp while you rat away aimless like Feyth residents. And you didnt just plain suck like VI, Aftermath and Terror in the System. You are in fact self-supportive, and a deserving alliance of 0.0 space. Yes you folded eventually, but I can imagine a lot of alliances that would surely throw in the towel much quicker. You lasted a long time up their considering what surronded you. I have no doubt for future success of your alliances, and in the run if the game ends with the collapse of BoB, id imagine of all the "pets" you would be the ones who were left with your space. I will never forget the 90 man dread gang you managed to form, just plain sick.
Best of luck in the future, and mucho respect to you 3 alliances.
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Apophis Omega
Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:03:00 -
[232]
I have had some of my best fights of my eve time against rzr and co. You have come at us even out numbered some times (well not like we were out numbered the past few days ) and for that I give you props.
I think RZR and co will be more than happy to know they have no more shredders to deal with :). -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Kiko Goatbiter
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 00:04:00 -
[233]
Whenever I hear BKG it makes me hungry, it sounds like a burger =/
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:14:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
/me golf clap
Cookie?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:11:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Happydayz haha. Of all of the times to re-activate my account, I just HAD to pick last Friday. Good times.
Haha sup dude.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:32:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
Seems so. Carebears rejoice! I wonder why RZR even bothers say "gg" when they damn well knew that any good PvP alliance will ***** down under 24 other alliances and 600+ sieges. I can fully say that RZR is bunch of ********s and they don't deserve their space. This is naturally my OWN opinion and not my alliances.
I will bet my ISK's that even thou RZR & Co. said that they will reset standings, they will NOT start war against each other.
And lastly:
Better be DEAD than RED ..
Oh and pet knows another pet, eh? 
Concord offers PUNISHMENT, not protection
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Helen
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:39:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Widowed Bride I have the strongest of beliefs in that once the war is over 0.0 will be back to roaming gangs, standing resets, and no POS wars.
Lollers yeah sure and I'm my mothers uncle.
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:42:00 -
[238]
Edited by: snerdly on 01/10/2007 06:42:39 (@ pervs guy, not Helen)
I understand your frustration, but given the circumstances, RZR/MM have treated you with the utmost respect. They are also allowing you to leave nearly unscathed.
And you repay that respect and consideration with idiotic smacktalk? Class.
Claaaaaaaass.
(Most of the mpire and friends are actually class. This guy, though, is a moron.)
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Nyteshade
FATAL Inquisition FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 06:51:00 -
[239]
Always had lots of respect for razor since long ago, fought alongside mythos corp long time ago and enjoyed their bravery and dedication. Despite losing every station they had Razor never bowed their heads and resorted to smak or out of game tactics. Simply they fought and fought probing for weakness and were dedicated enough to keep fighting until they found a way to win. And in the end they still keep their honour and dignity respecting their enemy and letting them move out and still not smaking.
I find it a shame the game has resorted to the 2 huge power blocks within eve and long for the smaller regional conflicts to be restarted, less blob and more pvp, but that will not be for now. Thanx for the fights and the respect you guys have shown, MM you guys are good allies and Razor have good friends with you. I dont belive Razor will keep all this huge napfest blue for long it is simply a case of needs must and tempory settings while the immediate conflict was sorted. MM and Razor I would suggest will remain good allies for a long time to come and I wish you fun on the battlefield. Hope to see you again whatever side of the fence we end up on and whatever region that is in.
Eve constantly changes and having fun while it happens is all I care about.
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KBP7 GriefingAlt
Enough is Enough
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Posted - 2007.10.01 07:24:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
Seems so. Carebears rejoice! I wonder why RZR even bothers say "gg" when they damn well knew that any good PvP alliance will ***** down under 24 other alliances and 600+ sieges. I can fully say that RZR is bunch of ********s and they don't deserve their space. This is naturally my OWN opinion and not my alliances.
I will bet my ISK's that even thou RZR & Co. said that they will reset standings, they will NOT start war against each other.
And lastly:
Better be DEAD than RED ..
Oh and pet knows another pet, eh? 
You take Eve too seriously, calm down.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.10.01 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
yeh its not like it was the other way around eh
mc fatal cow mpire bob and pets fix etc .... _______________________
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Romeo
Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 08:19:00 -
[242]
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
yeh its not like it was the other way around eh
mc fatal cow mpire bob and pets fix etc ....
how many bob, mc, fix etc did you see up there?
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Myz Toyou
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 08:28:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Widowed Bride I have the strongest of beliefs in that once the war is over 0.0 will be back to roaming gangs, standing resets, and no POS wars.
Lollers yeah sure and I'm my mothers uncle.
You sound bitter Helen, whatz up ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.10.01 08:43:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Helen
Originally by: Widowed Bride I have the strongest of beliefs in that once the war is over 0.0 will be back to roaming gangs, standing resets, and no POS wars.
Lollers yeah sure and I'm my mothers uncle.
You sound bitter Helen, whatz up ?
Actually she/he is right ,i don¦t see people reseting standings after the war is gone .
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 08:43:00 -
[245]
A coalition of 3000 members that loses and surrenders so quickly should start to trim its membership to be honest.
I hear claims of 17 alliances against you but at best only a fleet of 400 or so came knocking on your doors, if out of 3000 members you cannot rotate or at least field an equal number id say that is a poor coalition. I see a lot of "good fight" and "respect" and it sounds to me like your fishing for it back and tbh maybe some of you deserve it but id say looking at the numbers most of you do not. Also i hear m-pire negotiated a surrender without mentioning it to FATAL or COW?. I guess the things the other ex-ascn guys claimed is truer than their allies originaly thought, i wonder who they will bail on next?.
You need to start booting the dead wieght and the carebear parasites or you will just be in the samre position you are in now in 2-3 months again.
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INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.10.01 08:54:00 -
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whats the bitterness in this thread from cow, fatal and mpire? what did u expect when u invaded and got handed these systems? that rzr and co whould roll over and go die? uhmm. and this about "congratulations of getting the old north back" yadayada. aint that what your big brothers are trying to achieve down south? drop the drama, drop your own tapping on backs. game swings in different ways all the time, aint that we all enjoy about it? noone's better then the rest, custom comes in different forms with different alliance.
on blobbing: when fallen came for us in deklein u didn't go "oh my days, we're comeing in blobs! maybe we should let fallen do this on their own" as said: noone's better then the rest move on and stop your moaning
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Sujinder
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:05:00 -
[247]
I don't see anyone from MPIRE moaning here, why don't you resist the urge to chip-in lame comments from the side? Why the **** are you anyway? and why should we care?
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Schwarz3r
UA Industry
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:05:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
Seems so. Carebears rejoice! I wonder why RZR even bothers say "gg" when they damn well knew that any good PvP alliance will ***** down under 24 other alliances and 600+ sieges. I can fully say that RZR is bunch of ********s and they don't deserve their space. This is naturally my OWN opinion and not my alliances.
I will bet my ISK's that even thou RZR & Co. said that they will reset standings, they will NOT start war against each other.
And lastly:
Better be DEAD than RED ..
Oh and pet knows another pet, eh? 
Calm down. Your alliance friends got owned 1 year ago in C-J, when they were trying to capture it. And they got owned by 30 bs and 20 cruisers. In other hand they had 1000+ fleet and ****load of capitals. Ask Putukas, if you dont believe me. It's fact that you guys, have lack of skill. I am not surprised that you lost this battles.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:06:00 -
[249]
Originally by: marakor A coalition of 3000 members that loses and surrenders so quickly should start to trim its membership to be honest.
I hear claims of 17 alliances against you but at best only a fleet of 400 or so came knocking on your doors, if out of 3000 members you cannot rotate or at least field an equal number id say that is a poor coalition. I see a lot of "good fight" and "respect" and it sounds to me like your fishing for it back and tbh maybe some of you deserve it but id say looking at the numbers most of you do not. Also i hear m-pire negotiated a surrender without mentioning it to FATAL or COW?. I guess the things the other ex-ascn guys claimed is truer than their allies originaly thought, i wonder who they will bail on next?.
You need to start booting the dead wieght and the carebear parasites or you will just be in the samre position you are in now in 2-3 months again.
A big part of what you say is true but it happens in every major alliance that at some point in time, a trimming must be done or they are not in front of their computers. Note also that recruitment (a few corps joined in late), boost that number up and the last corp was moving up when it happened.
But there also many parameters not necessarily taken into account in your conclusion like the pressure that both allies and enemies have stated was on us for months, RL stuff, school claiming our students, babies (I think I heard that 2 of our pilots became fathers - congratz again). All that can make a 3000 pilots on the paper look thin in space sometimes. I'm not talking about motivation or stuff like that, I'm not in every pilots shoes.
Add to that the very good timing of our enemies who took this particular weekend to bring their numbers where you are right, we couldn't match it.
On many occasions, we were the outblobbers... this time, it was our turn to be outblobbed and pinned down.
It's a never ending process. I'm not searching for reason or excuses. Just that the RP only doesn't explain everything. In all alliances, the number on the attribute tab never reflected the actual state of their fielded ships, dedication and else.
Was my 2c. You are right on the trimming but it's a never ending process unfortunatly.  ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |

INZi
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:07:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Sujinder I don't see anyone from MPIRE moaning here, why don't you resist the urge to chip-in lame comments from the side? Why the **** are you anyway? and why should we care?
im your father luke
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:13:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Sujinder I don't see anyone from MPIRE moaning here, why don't you resist the urge to chip-in lame comments from the side? Why the **** are you anyway? and why should we care?
Why would m-pire moan on here you negotiated a surrender without informing your allies, basicaly bailing on them and giving them not much of a choice but to surrender as well.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:19:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Romeo
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: Angor /me claps
Congratulations Razor, MM etc. + entire drone reigon, you got your super-nap north back 
yeh its not like it was the other way around eh
mc fatal cow mpire bob and pets fix etc ....
how many bob, mc, fix etc did you see up there?
As a whole , North gets called a nap fest well South isnt much better is it ? youre allied south as well thats what i ment , i know damn well bob/fix werent up there to help ya .
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CiNi
FireStar Inc FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:26:00 -
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Congratulations and respect to Razor and freinds. The constant pressure must have taken a lot to maintain with the damage we were doing to you guys the whole time. To come back from what happened to you to be at the stage you are at now is very impressive.
I had more fun with the fights up here than i had in my entire time in the south, and i loved detorid hehe. The fights were excellent and smack free. You were worthy advesaries who deserve thier space and i only hope the space we are vacating is going to be put to good use, especially seeing we left you a nice present in 4DT. Stamm, you have an evemail.
You used the numbers you had available to you well, exactly the same as we would have had they been available to us. Kudos on your victory. Enjoy it. o7
I'm sure we will come face to face on the field again. I cant wait tbqfh.
M.Pire - You guys will always have a freind in FireStar Inc. CoW - You guys are nuts, dont ever change. Smacktalking alts - Post with your main or STFU
Heres hoping the next 4 months are as much fun as the last 4 and it looks like its time for a new sig 
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Destruct
Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:43:00 -
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seriously, who cares about this napland ****. it's never hard to find stuff to shoot. sometimes you might have to travel a bit to find them. hell, if you have no enemies it's easy enogh to make them.
... and seriously, who cares about the "your blob is bigger then ours". someones blob is always gonna be bigger and this is how it works in eve atm.
ridiculous arguments. 
to fatal m.pire cows gg and gl
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Ozstar
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 09:44:00 -
[255]
Congratulations to RZR/MM and the rest.
As was mentioned following some big fights in BKG; in which it became obvious that lag was a bigger player than any alliance there - we focused our efforts on Fallen Souls in northern deklein.
The fact we were camped in UEJX and CZD and RZR/MM were coming in from branch didnt leave FS much room to breathe and i believe them moving out greatly reduced the numbers that FATAL/M.PIRE/COW could field.
However the above mentioned alliances have fought hard and they have earnt a little more respect for their efforts. Im looking forward to seeing how things develop in the north over the next few weeks.
Ozstar - on a small greek island o/ ---
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Rheinkraft
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 10:14:00 -
[256]
Well done RZR/MM on a job well done, and gg to all involved 
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putukas
Amarr Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 10:24:00 -
[257]
Edited by: putukas on 01/10/2007 10:24:24
It's gonna be happy blueland... carebear heaven. personally im not happy that m.pire surrendered and left us no other option but to do the same. It was decission made too fast. But on another hand it's is good to see how many alliances worked together to kill us. There was atleast ~10 smaller and bigger alliances fighting us. Props for being better in politics and you sure did cry better then us when you were in trouble. Your mighty blob got spanked two times and you just took more and more friends with you. RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
Atleast we have cuts to admit we lost this fight, do not come to CAOD to talk goonss**t like some of the posts are here.
Those who call us BoB pets should stfu. Did you ever see any bob or MC in our fleets? Did we cry for help? We fought as much as possible and would have fought more.
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.01 10:49:00 -
[258]
Originally by: putukas RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
  
(I'm not allowed to post so I will just stick to emotes)
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Yuto Kang
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.10.01 10:58:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Plague Black
Originally by: putukas RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
  
(I'm not allowed to post so I will just stick to emotes)
But I am allowed, now that I am out of MM, so let me say whats on your mind. 
CoW would have lost v7-mid to RZR/MM without the help of your (great) allies in a matter of 2 weeks. Only the pilots of MPire and FATAL - who came to your rescue - saved you that time and tbqfh out of those three adversaries CoW has been the weakest and usually brought the smack instead of the fight. MPire and FATAL will be missed, as they have been good enemies on the battlefield and have some excellent pilots. As for CoW, stop the smack, try to find some grace even in defeat and start again. ___________________________
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Danny Centurai
New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.01 10:59:00 -
[260]
I disapear off to University for Freshers week and recieve excited mails about the fall of BKG, I know very little of the history of the North but I know that Morsus Mihi, Razor and alies deserve it.
Wars shouldn't always be about who has the highest SP, the command from the blue fleet was outstanding, the sheer numbers that turned out even more so. Several times we had been pushed back out of BKG, did we hit them the next day no! We took advantage of another system weakened by the fact every force was being withdrawn to BKG.
To every person who FC'd the 'Free North' fleet thankyou, I was proud to fly alongside you. Where to next is the question, so many systems to be captured. Once things are consolidated up North I hope to see us no longer hunting BOBits but ripping the heart from the beast its self.
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Yuto Kang
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.10.01 11:30:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Imperator Palpatine666
v-7 270 friendly on local (110 was Fallen Souls )
"only the pilot of Mpire and F4tal" save cow.."
try to make history now is a bit later..
Sorry, I wasn't quite clear in my post. I was talking only about PVP pilots, not the F-S mining ops there.  ___________________________
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Varicella Zoster
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.01 11:30:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Imperator Palpatine666
Quote:
CoW would have lost v7-mid to RZR/MM without the help of your (great) allies in a matter of 2 weeks. Only the pilots of MPire and FATAL - who came to your rescue - saved you .
v-7 270 friendly on local (110 was Fallen Souls )
"only the pilot of Mpire and F4tal" save cow.."
try to make history now is a bit later..
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what?
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Landmass
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Posted - 2007.10.01 11:46:00 -
[263]
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KracKaTinny
Minmatar STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 11:54:00 -
[264]
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Trask Kilraen
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.01 11:57:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Nyteshade
I find it a shame the game has resorted to the 2 huge power blocks within eve and long for the smaller regional conflicts to be restarted, less blob and more pvp, but that will not be for now. Nyte
You can thank BoB and their "nice region, we'll take it" policy. Frankly, if we can rid of them, it would be nice to have a huge 0.0 standings reset and enjoy some good ole Pew Pew without laggy sovreignty fights.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:10:00 -
[266]
Live by the bandwagon, die by the bandwagon. That pretty much says it all.
You had friends when you made your claim on the North. Slowly, one-by-one, those friends got picked off, leaving you to fend off the might of many alliances you helped kick out of their homes just a few months ago. No big surprise there.
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:10:00 -
[267]
Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 12:14:10 Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is going on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack your so-called enemies either.
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to huddle together. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
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Katherine Marx
Muff Diving
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:11:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Kuolematon
Seems so. Carebears rejoice! I wonder why RZR even bothers say "gg" when they damn well knew that any good PvP alliance will ***** down under 24 other alliances and 600+ sieges. I can fully say that RZR is bunch of ********s and they don't deserve their space. This is naturally my OWN opinion and not my alliances.
I will bet my ISK's that even thou RZR & Co. said that they will reset standings, they will NOT start war against each other.
And lastly:
Better be DEAD than RED ..
Oh and pet knows another pet, eh? 
Originally by: putukas Edited by: putukas on 01/10/2007 10:24:24
It's gonna be happy blueland... carebear heaven. personally im not happy that m.pire surrendered and left us no other option but to do the same. It was decission made too fast. But on another hand it's is good to see how many alliances worked together to kill us. There was atleast ~10 smaller and bigger alliances fighting us. Props for being better in politics and you sure did cry better then us when you were in trouble. Your mighty blob got spanked two times and you just took more and more friends with you. RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
Atleast we have cuts to admit we lost this fight, do not come to CAOD to talk goonss**t like some of the posts are here.
Those who call us BoB pets should stfu. Did you ever see any bob or MC in our fleets? Did we cry for help? We fought as much as possible and would have fought more.
more like Cult of Whiners. you guys seem to be the only ones smacking here. fairly typical of your alliance though.
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Engad Tanon
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:15:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Katherine Marx
Originally by: Kuolematon
more like Cult of Whiners. you guys seem to be the only ones smacking here. fairly typical of your alliance though.
says who?
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HeadHunta II
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:19:00 -
[270]
Just a few words to some comments here:
Of course COW alone cant hold V7- vs. so many enemys alone, so its logical and a honest decision to surrender. Instead of trying to blame COW with things like "...without your friends you would have lost V7- earlier etc." you should think about it again. You had friends aswell. It was never a question of us vs all of you...it was since the beginning a fight between us and friends vs you and friends, so the comparing of 1 alliance vs those who are now victorious shouldnt be a point of discussion.
And to this RA comment that COW lacks skills etc. and lost a fight 1 year ago, well, at least we had the skills to have you still angry to write this stupid and irrelevant comment 
We lost, you won. Respect. Save your flames for someone else, especially those who are not even involved. No need for flames here.
"Moooooohhh" "My opinion is not your opinion. Live with it!"
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:19:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Velios Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is goig on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack these enemies either.
All in due time. We've already took some measures when you decided to take a trip South to help MC.
Originally by: Velios
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to napitup. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
Reset standings to whom, our friends, MM/Pure/MH? Everyone needs friends and you've seen very lately, when you had so few around.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:27:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 12:14:10 Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is going on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack your so-called enemies either.
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to huddle together. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
BoB never retracted the statement about wanting to conquer all of Eve, from that perspective one could consider it unwise to let the Southern Coalition to fight BoB alone. For all people know, MC could be planning their next trip up north as we speak...
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Yuto Kang
Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:33:00 -
[273]
Originally by: HeadHunta II Just a few words to some comments here:
Of course COW alone cant hold V7- vs. so many enemys alone, so its logical and a honest decision to surrender. Instead of trying to blame COW with things like "...without your friends you would have lost V7- earlier etc." you should think about it again. You had friends aswell.
You are right about that and I think everyone involved is well aware that it was a team effort on both sides. What really ticks people off here are comments like from your fellow CoW pilot: "RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault." If we could simply stop such stupid remarks who couldn't be more far away from the truth, then we might actually have a decent discussion here about how it happened.
Additionally I'd like that add that I find it quite annoying to see people say RZR/MM/Pure and the other (imaginary) dozen alliances defeated MPire. On MPire's side it was them with FATAL mostly and some CoW, on the other side of the battlefield it was mostly RAZOR, Morsus Mihi and then some. Yes, in total there have been maybe a dozen alliances involved, but most of those other alliances had a handful or a dozen pilots at best in the fleets we steered right into BKG. So stop they myth it was a 3 vs. 24 alliances fight, because it was not. It was mainly RAZOR and Morsus Mihi, with much appreciated help from guys like Pure, CPU, Phoenix Allianz and so on, but only in limited numbers.
Also, an honorary mention goes to the amazing R0ADKILL pilot who steered a stealthbomber with payload to the BKG station killing 50+ drones and fighters at one point. That was quite nice.  ___________________________
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:36:00 -
[274]
Originally by: MarKand
A straggler frigate in space, and was Dungar alone ? NO , he needed a Astarte and a Hyperion to back him up so he could bubble and pop the little frigate.
Is this smack,, NO,, this is THE ONLY KM Mr Dungan Loghth is present on, in the ENTIRE M.Pire Alliance.
So please Mr Dungan,, STFU or be a part of it, dont leach on others kills,and then write stuff on coad. You know, You actully have to be a part of something to be able to claim something.
Hope to see You soon in space, would be fun to actully see if you fight as fiersome as You post.
/M
PS I realy hate all these coad killers, no real kills, just smack.
Have to correct you there Markand, Dungar did killed a hauler (board needed a sync) who went way too casually in his direction thinking that the road was under the control of the faction we surrendered to. Word is that his leadership/bosses/hosts/whatever told him to NOT shoot these pilots under non-hostile surrender pact... but he said "Suck it" to them.
Unfortunatly, later when a few BS came flying the same road, he cloaked/hide/ran...
No smack, just facts.  ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet |

Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:42:00 -
[275]
Originally by: DeTox MinRohim
Originally by: MarKand
A straggler frigate in space, and was Dungar alone ? NO , he needed a Astarte and a Hyperion to back him up so he could bubble and pop the little frigate.
Is this smack,, NO,, this is THE ONLY KM Mr Dungan Loghth is present on, in the ENTIRE M.Pire Alliance.
So please Mr Dungan,, STFU or be a part of it, dont leach on others kills,and then write stuff on coad. You know, You actully have to be a part of something to be able to claim something.
Hope to see You soon in space, would be fun to actully see if you fight as fiersome as You post.
/M
PS I realy hate all these coad killers, no real kills, just smack.
Have to correct you there Markand, Dungar did killed a hauler (board needed a sync) who went way too casually in his direction thinking that the road was under the control of the faction we surrendered to. Word is that his leadership/bosses/hosts/whatever told him to NOT shoot these pilots under non-hostile surrender pact... but he said "Suck it" to them.
Unfortunatly, later when a few BS came flying the same road, he cloaked/hide/ran...
No smack, just facts. 
PL was never part of any surrender agreement, i'm sorry if you were misled.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:43:00 -
[276]
Originally by: putukas
But on another hand it's is good to see how many alliances worked together to kill us. There was atleast ~10 smaller and bigger alliances fighting us. Props for being better in politics and you sure did cry better then us when you were in trouble. Your mighty blob got spanked two times and you just took more and more friends with you. RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
The bulk of the forces was MM/Pure/MH/RZR. The rest who came, came because they were in the same channel and put an "X" in it.
Really, why do you look for sympathy? It's all out politics and public opinion about who knows who and who offers the best compromise between what you offer and what you want. You preferred to have reds to gank and own a station close by... which is fun. Well you had them for a while, until they all joined up and decided they had enough. And I'm not talking about MM/Pure/MH/RZR, but the others who most of you call pets.
We've learnt from our mistakes and haven't given up. Why don't you put it this way? Why do you want to play the innocent and try to make us look bad when in fact we were relentless in our goal, which is never bad.
Originally by: putukas
Atleast we have cuts to admit we lost this fight, do not come to CAOD to talk goonss**t like some of the posts are here.
Sorry, you have no guts if you don't accept the reality. With your former paragraph you're refuting the latter paragraph, both of which I've quoted.
In a post long time ago, you said to bring it, because you're CoW and you love war. We did it and you're still complaining...
By the way, where is Pepperami? He said we would never have BKG...
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Central Scrutinizer
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:48:00 -
[277]
This thread is fail.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:51:00 -
[278]
Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 01/10/2007 12:53:28
Originally by: Narciss Sevar PL was never part of any surrender agreement, i'm sorry if you were misled.
Thanks for confirming that. Precision though, I didn't say PL explicitly (add a few options) was part of it, just that Dungar was asked not to shoot by higher ranked but decided to do it anyway.
Anyway - such things happen. Moving on...
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.10.01 12:59:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 12:14:10 Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is going on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack your so-called enemies either.
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to huddle together. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
I've generally supported and defended M.Pire positions on CAOD, but this post just doesn't make any sense at all. Maybe re-read your own third line there and then think some more about your first two? Also, if _you_ had been neutral as you seem to be asking everyone else to be, then my guess is that Razor would not have felt the need to continue to attack you.
/me scratches head.
Koronos
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:11:00 -
[280]
Yay for the Northern NAP-land! Or, in TRI's case, the Northern NIP-land! Yay for faux-pvp and meaningless engagements between what either are or amount to blues! Yay so powa~ blue blob!
Now the north can get fat and happy again! Maybe useless groups like IRON and FLA can get their homes back too! After all, they're BFF with the rest of the north, right?
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:13:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 12:14:10 Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is going on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack your so-called enemies either.
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to huddle together. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
The biggest impact many in the north can have in the big scheme of things, is taking back the space that MC/Bob took not so long ago. This is being done. --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Anton March
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:23:00 -
[282]
Congrats Razor & Allies. Most impressive. Hopefully this means the "Old North" can head back down south to aid in the fight there.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:36:00 -
[283]
Edited by: marakor on 01/10/2007 13:43:20 Edited by: marakor on 01/10/2007 13:41:11 Razor and buddies deserved to win as soon as m-pire and buddies got pulled back and turtled up. If you fight a war in your home systems eventualy you will run out of money or you will be sick of being attacked because your enemy decides on the times and places of the engagment.
When S-E was attacked in responce to COW's systems being attacked the coalition should have followed through with the assault, instead they were pulled back by the then alliance leader who had done jack **** for the war and had barley been on line because he "did'nt like POS wars" the offensive was halted. What the **** a 0.0 alliance leader in a war is doing leading and mak iting decisions like that and having that sort of attitude when 0.0 warfare is all POS warfare i don't know but it was the reason myself and others later left the alliance.
The end result was obvious, a slow and painful death as attendance in the new north fleets got less and less and razor/allies brought more and more and with the "I h8 POS wars" leader leaving for "personal reasons". In the end i hear that again M-PIRE negotiated a surrender without consulting with their allies giving COW and FATAL little choice but to do the same. But even without that the rot in at least one of these large alliances FATAL was there long before it even came to branch due to the recruitment of way to many carebear corps to bolster numbers instead of pvpers. This gave the illusion of a great and large fighting force but the reality was a house of cards built mostly with paper tigers.
If you then take into account as it has been said before that a coalition with 3000 members on paper at best could put together a fleet of considerably less than 400 on their best day and on a normal day less than 200 you can see where the problem lies.
So poor recruiting/monitoring plus poor leadership and strategy by a alliance leader who wasnt their and only made a appearance to undermine on the alliance forum the fella who took the reins pretty much sums up how the new north fell.
Lesson learned i hope but i doubt looking at the "17 vs 3" comments and "they had more than us" crap i read here.
ps; the edits were cos im a iliterate ****.
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Danny Centurai
New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.10.01 13:45:00 -
[284]
Originally by: marakor Lesson learned i hope but i doubt looking at the "17 vs 3" comments and "they had more than us" crap i read here.
I will second that one. I can remember once M.Pire pulled back their fleet to BKG after the orginal assult. We was outnumbered 2-1 at the best of times by M.Pire in BKG up until the end, shows how much brute force and ignorance can do for you. The 3 days with almost no sleep of raiding in BKG just to knock down the cyno jammer for a hour long slot was worth it in the end boys... especially seen as we got to kill repping carriers with large armor reps fitted lol.
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Toxic Fumes
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:04:00 -
[285]
If Jose "the special one" Mourhino was in charge. None of this would have happened. 
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:15:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Plague Black
Originally by: putukas RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
  
(I'm not allowed to post so I will just stick to emotes)
/signed   
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:16:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Velios
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
You shouldn't be giving advice about what people should do when things don't go their way.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:19:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 12:14:10 Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is going on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack your so-called enemies either.
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to huddle together. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
All in due time
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:27:00 -
[289]
Originally by: marakor words
All this from a guy who's biggest achievement in EVE to date is stringing together a few paragraphs on eve-o.
I listened to what you had to say, some of it makes a bit of sense (youdo well at stating the painfully obvious) but when it comes to slagging off alliance leaders who take a break for personal reasons you are stepping over the line.
It's simply none of your business why an alliance leader would hand over the reins to someone else, and to be quite honest other people in that alliance stepped up and did a wonderful job.
You are just a disgruntled ex-employee by the sound of it, it's a real shame that you weren't so vociferous at the time then you perceived all these problems in your own alliance to be happening. But then again, it's much easier to be the big man on EVE-O than to do it face to face... Or are you simply one of those angsty, annoying people that nobody takes any notice of regardless of what they have to say?
To cur it short, don't put your former alliance leaders down, they have achieved more in EVE than you are ever likely to yourself.
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Marlon Shakespeare
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:32:00 -
[290]
Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 01/10/2007 14:06:54If you fight a war in your home systems eventualy you will run out of money or you will be sick of being attacked because your enemy decides on the times and places of the engagment.
Ahh...Sophisticatedlimabean! We knew it wouldn't be long until your tactical brilliance reared it's head and told us all how to PVP *again*. I had hoped for your sake you had learned to keep your mouth shut to secure your future in Triumvirate. I'm sure it's just a question of time before someone asks what that annoying/lecturing buzz is in the background. Tell them your brilliant strategy about Stealth Bombers, I'm sure it will be mind-blowing.
It's a real shame that you have become so bitter and twisted. I actually read one of your aforementioned posts and thought the better of you for it before I read this under an ill-disguised alt.
Originally by: marakor ...and having that sort of attitude when 0.0 warfare is all POS warfare i don't know but it was the reason myself and others later left the alliance.
Lets be truthful, you didn't so much leave the alliance, your continued presence was rendered untenable after you turned yourself into a holier-than-thou hate figure, spouting off about everyone when the best you could contribute was ganking haulers in lo-sec.
How we shook our heads and laughed when you turned up to V7 in a covert ops with no probes or mic as if you actually intended to be of any use to anyone (and subsequently proclaimed to have led us to victory).
Originally by: marakor ... and with the "I h8 POS wars" leader leaving for "personal reasons".
How low can you sink when you attack someone who has to take time out from the game to deal with real life issues involving supporting their family. I don't actually recall you once stepping up to provide any leadership or demonstrate that infinate tactical genius and squad leadership. It was all mouth and no trousers.
Originally by: marakor ps; the edits were cos im a iliterate ****.
Yes :-D
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:39:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Katherine Marx
Originally by: Velios To cut it short, don't put your former alliance leaders down, they have achieved more in EVE than you are ever likely to yourself.
Yes those bpc packs are quite a huge accomplishment.
They are actually! Join MCORP_SALES to make a trade.
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Huricae
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:40:00 -
[292]
Edited by: Huricae on 01/10/2007 14:43:22 M.pire/Fatal/Coe there is a good place you can take over by force. The BoB Outposts in Fountain
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:48:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 14:28:01
Originally by: marakor INCONVINIENT TRUTH
It's simply none of your business why an alliance leader would hand over the reins to someone else, and to be quite honest other people in that alliance stepped up and did a wonderful job.
You are just a disgruntled ex-employee by the sound of it, it's a real shame that you weren't so vociferous at the time then you perceived all these problems in your own alliance to be happening.
When S-E was attacked in responce to COW's systems being attacked the coalition should have followed through with the assault, instead they were pulled back by the then alliance leader who had done jack **** for the war and had barley been on line because he "did'nt like POS wars" the offensive was halted. What the **** a 0.0 alliance leader in a war is doing leading and making decisions like that and having that sort of attitude when 0.0 warfare is all POS warfare i don't know but it was the reason myself and others later left the alliance.
Im sure you can read but il underline the part that is relavant, and believe me i was very active on the alliance forums and in every other place i could but i got shouted down by the carebear turtles and others who are better at making isk and moving house than they are at fighting.
Oh and also the leader who had personal issues so he could'nt play the game but had enough time to read the alliance forums and pull back the offensive in S-E and undermine the new leader on those very forums who "did a wonderful job" as you call it.
A bit like m-pire realy considering this is the second or third time you haver bailed without warning on a ally.
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MeatwagonUK
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:52:00 -
[294]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 14:28:01
Originally by: marakor INCONVINIENT TRUTH
It's simply none of your business why an alliance leader would hand over the reins to someone else, and to be quite honest other people in that alliance stepped up and did a wonderful job.
You are just a disgruntled ex-employee by the sound of it, it's a real shame that you weren't so vociferous at the time then you perceived all these problems in your own alliance to be happening.
When S-E was attacked in responce to COW's systems being attacked the coalition should have followed through with the assault, instead they were pulled back by the then alliance leader who had done jack **** for the war and had barley been on line because he "did'nt like POS wars" the offensive was halted. What the **** a 0.0 alliance leader in a war is doing leading and making decisions like that and having that sort of attitude when 0.0 warfare is all POS warfare i don't know but it was the reason myself and others later left the alliance.
Im sure you can read but il underline the part that is relavant, and believe me i was very active on the alliance forums and in every other place i could but i got shouted down by the carebear turtles and others who are better at making isk and moving house than they are at fighting.
Oh and also the leader who had personal issues so he could'nt play the game but had enough time to read the alliance forums and pull back the offensive in S-E and undermine the new leader on those very forums who "did a wonderful job" as you call it.
A bit like m-pire realy considering this is the second or third time you haver bailed without warning on a ally.
First of all, no its not. Secondly how the hell are those two situations remotely similar? You've just decided to chuck some smack in. Yes, we surrendered and left, we didn't join their side. You, on the other hand, have been in about every 'side' of every war in the game.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.01 14:53:00 -
[295]
Originally by: marakor but it was the reason myself and others later left the alliance.
If u act the same way ingame as u do on the forum, then im pretty sure it wasnt the greatest loss in the world
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:05:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare
Ahh...Sophisticatedlimabean! We knew it wouldn't be long until your tactical brilliance reared it's head and told us all how to PVP *again*.
You should realy check you corp/alliance ticker before you make claims bud or post with your main. And posting with a alt in a npc corp gets zapped as you well know so i post with this guy, perhaps you should check before you make claims about me hiding behind a alt considering thats what you are actualy doing.
And after you and other just led the new north into a most embarressing defeat id say that your hardly in a position to comment on anybodys tactical knowledge.
Im sure killing logged of ships with probers is a rare and highly valued skill so your future is sound.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:05:00 -
[297]
Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: marakor but it was the reason myself and others later left the alliance.
If u act the same way ingame as u do on the forum, then im pretty sure it wasnt the greatest loss in the world
Oh well... here it comes: /signed 
It serves no purpose anyway to throw muds at whoever thinks he has a clue... or not... or...
ooOOO shinny!.... /me gone outside, there is a sun... how strange.
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eleuthereus
Gallente The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:13:00 -
[298]
Although terribly saddened, and yes a little bitter (might as well admit it), frustrated, and tired, I have to say that my last 3 months with Fatal in the fight against rzr&co. has been terrifically fun. And, I suppose, that's what the game is largely about -- having fun. Soooo, once again I bid 0.0 goodbye (this is really getting old), and head back to empire (sigh).
GF foes GF friends
Personal Note: 1) I never surrendered. And would have much rather fought until my last ship went up in flames. But hey, that's just me. 2) One of the most critical blows for me was finding out M. Pire had surrendered while we were engaged in active combat and suddenly ships started turning blue for everyone but Fatal/Cow. Surprise, surprise. Oooopsy.
I'll miss Branch and I'll miss the fights. Over & Out.   ________________________
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:24:00 -
[299]
Yes Eluthrius, it should never have been allowed to happen that way. And as of yet nobody has been able to fully explain why it did happen this way, it was a diplomatic error, but one I am sure you understand was never intended in that way.
Regardless, MPIRE stick by Fatal 110% as you have stuck by us - we make a brilliant team.
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cruxix
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:26:00 -
[300]
Originally by: eleuthereus Although terribly saddened, and yes a little bitter (might as well admit it), frustrated, and tired, I have to say that my last 3 months with Fatal in the fight against rzr&co. has been terrifically fun. And, I suppose, that's what the game is largely about -- having fun. Soooo, once again I bid 0.0 goodbye (this is really getting old), and head back to empire (sigh).
GF foes GF friends
Personal Note: 1) I never surrendered. And would have much rather fought until my last ship went up in flames. But hey, that's just me. 2) One of the most critical blows for me was finding out M. Pire had surrendered while we were engaged in active combat and suddenly ships started turning blue for everyone but Fatal/Cow. Surprise, surprise. Oooopsy.
I'll miss Branch and I'll miss the fights. Over & Out.  
Not sure what happened around that but I'm sure I speak for everyone in M when I say Fatal and COW have been as close as alliance mates and we would fly along side you guys anytime.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:27:00 -
[301]
Originally by: eleuthereus Although terribly saddened, and yes a little bitter (might as well admit it), frustrated, and tired, I have to say that my last 3 months with Fatal in the fight against rzr&co. has been terrifically fun. And, I suppose, that's what the game is largely about -- having fun. Soooo, once again I bid 0.0 goodbye (this is really getting old), and head back to empire (sigh).
GF foes GF friends
Personal Note: 1) I never surrendered. And would have much rather fought until my last ship went up in flames. But hey, that's just me. 2) One of the most critical blows for me was finding out M. Pire had surrendered while we were engaged in active combat and suddenly ships started turning blue for everyone but Fatal/Cow. Surprise, surprise. Oooopsy.
I'll miss Branch and I'll miss the fights. Over & Out.  
Some people* aren't meant for 0.0
*you
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:36:00 -
[302]
**** off ****head
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:39:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Velios **** off ****head
Pretty classy post from a member of alliance leadership. I guess I'd be mad too if all I did in EVE was blame lag/ blobs and give up.
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Promithius
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:41:00 -
[304]
I would like a moment to congratulate rzr/mm and friends on sustaining such a long campaign. It was no small feet i would like to thank them for some good fights and some bad ( i hate lag) but at the end of the day someone must win and it was not us this day. Perhaps next time, as for the future of FAFAL Alliance who know, there is plenty of space and plenty of wars to fight im sure we will be found on a front line somewhere soon.
It is a shame that we did not hold out a little longer as im sure you are all thinking, but at the end of the day i think our decision was the wiser and i am very great full to rzr/mm for being gentleman enough to agree to allow us to leave in this dignified manner.
I wish them all the best and hope to have the pleasure of fighting them again some day. Until then on behalf of FATAL Alliance i bid you all good day.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:45:00 -
[305]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Velios **** off ****head
Pretty classy post from a member of alliance leadership. I guess I'd be mad too if all I did in EVE was blame lag/ blobs and give up.
Dont you mean give up without informing my allies while they are still engaged in a battle?
Oh btw goons suck
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:46:00 -
[306]
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 01/10/2007 15:46:40
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Velios **** off ****head
Pretty classy post from a member of alliance leadership.
Think Velios spoke for a lot of us, so I appreciate that 'official' statement.  ___________ I've never been so serious as I am now. No, really. |

NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:47:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 01/10/2007 15:46:40
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Velios **** off ****head
Pretty classy post from a member of alliance leadership.
Think Velios spoke for a lot of us, so I appreciate that 'official' statement. 
You guys are really doing your part to keep CAOD civil.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:53:00 -
[308]
This thread has all the tears of failure I was hoping it would have.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:58:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 01/10/2007 15:46:40
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Velios **** off ****head
Pretty classy post from a member of alliance leadership.
Think Velios spoke for a lot of us, so I appreciate that 'official' statement. 
I wish I could see why, I have this little cleaner thingy and some posts are invisible to me. 
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:00:00 -
[310]
It wasn't meant to be classy, those four words are all you are worth mate :)
Now, as a Goon, go rejoice and giggle about the naughty words.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:07:00 -
[311]
So wait, elsewhere the goonies were all emo over how mean old BoB treated Cyvok and ASCN, but here even worse (ie unfunny) smack is cool?
Goonies never stop posting! Mad props for bringing it!
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R Worker102
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:10:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Splade
Originally by: Mikko Baird did fatal and cow surrender??
Like hell did we!!
REMINDER!!! from page 3, sorry wont let ya forget..
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eleuthereus
Gallente The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:12:00 -
[313]
Oh, and let me add - I bear no hard feelings against M. Pire. They are a bunch of super, super guys/gals with a lot of integrity and they are hard fighters. Same goes for COW and Fatal (my corpmates are an awesome bunch of guys. And I am sure that many equally great guys are in MM, Razor, Tri and friends.
So, it's all good (or, at least, will be eventually).
And btw NO BRAKES, as for me belonging in 0.0, I fell very comfortable there, as my KB stats have always shown. And I would suggest that if you or any other Goon ever sees me in 0.0 space again, which may very well happen, you should hit your MWD in the opposite direction as soon as posisble to save your implants.  Oh wait, I forgot, you don't have the headspace or ISK to plug any in. Nvrmnd.  Weeeeee! ________________________
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:23:00 -
[314]
Originally by: eleuthereus Oh, and let me add - I bear no hard feelings against M. Pire. They are a bunch of super, super guys/gals with a lot of integrity and they are hard fighters. Same goes for COW and Fatal (my corpmates are an awesome bunch of guys. And I am sure that many equally great guys are in MM, Razor, Tri and friends.
So, it's all good (or, at least, will be eventually).
And btw NO BRAKES, as for me belonging in 0.0, I fell very comfortable there, as my KB stats have always shown. And I would suggest that if you or any other Goon ever sees me in 0.0 space again, which may very well happen, you should hit your MWD in the opposite direction as soon as posisble to save your implants.  Oh wait, I forgot, you don't have the headspace or ISK to plug any in. Nvrmnd.  Weeeeee!
What's that? Oh, sorry, wasn't really paying attention. I was too busy enjoying the bounty of the 4 0.0 regions we have conquered and hold in the south. You know, you guys really should try to hold an area of space for longer than 3 months. It probably goes against all your instincts as ex-members of LV, but regardless.
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:25:00 -
[315]
Originally by: eleuthereus Personal Note: 1) I never surrendered. And would have much rather fought until my last ship went up in flames. But hey, that's just me.
The people who fly caps and own pos's, who have massive amounts of isk at stake rather not lose everything...can't blame them tbh...
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:46:00 -
[316]
Originally by: eleuthereus
And btw NO BRAKES, as for me belonging in 0.0, I fell very comfortable there, as my KB stats have always shown. And I would suggest that if you or any other Goon ever sees me in 0.0 space again, which may very well happen, you should hit your MWD in the opposite direction as soon as posisble to save your implants.  Oh wait, I forgot, you don't have the headspace or ISK to plug any in. Nvrmnd.  Weeeeee!
Like I said before, you keep an eye on that killboard, and I'll keep an eye on this sov map.
How many failed alliances have you been in now?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: eleuthereus Personal Note: 1) I never surrendered. And would have much rather fought until my last ship went up in flames. But hey, that's just me.
The people who fly caps and own pos's, who have massive amounts of isk at stake rather not lose everything...can't blame them tbh...
And the soldier who bleeds on the battlefield loses any less?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:04:00 -
[318]
Originally by: eleuthereus
Originally by: NO BRAKES
How many failed alliances have you been in now?
True words spoken. But I would have rather lost and failed with the likes of ASCN, LV, and Fatal pilots than own ALL of Eve with the likes of you Goons. That's why I left Goons. I didn't care at all whether ornot you ruled all of Tenerifis and beyond. I couldn't stomach you any longer. And yet I STILL didn't take a single Ultrapolite Socialites BPO or anything else -- all of which I had access too. (And that was more than any Goon would have done.) So go scam and deceive more noobs, pubbies, and carrier pilots - that's about your speed.
Ohhh, you better go now, I think I hear your mother calling you. Time for you to surry off to kindergarten. It's Monday morning. See you after school. 
You sound pretty bitter for someone who "got over" goonfleet a long time ago.
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C0CK KN0CKER
Mail Order Russian Brides
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:34:00 -
[319]
Well, LV spread themselves to thin, and got eaten up, handing the batten to BoB to carry on, while ATUK - sorry I mean Shinra decided who was worthy to join into a BoB corp.... sound familiar from the FIVE ????? One corp tries to dictate everything, ends up annoying many of the alliance, and then joins BoB.... anyways, I digress... Several of LV form M.Pire and jump in to assist MC in the north. Rzr and MM are not best pleased by this, so they enlist the help of several alliances, and blob M.Pire in their own stations (lol), then M.Pire return to empire, to sell bpc packs.... did I miss anything ??
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M0535
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:36:00 -
[320]
Originally by: **** KN0CKER Well, LV spread themselves to thin, and got eaten up, handing the batten to BoB to carry on, while ATUK - sorry I mean Shinra decided who was worthy to join into a BoB corp.... sound familiar from the FIVE ????? One corp tries to dictate everything, ends up annoying many of the alliance, and then joins BoB.... anyways, I digress... Several of LV form M.Pire and jump in to assist MC in the north. Rzr and MM are not best pleased by this, so they enlist the help of several alliances, and blob M.Pire in their own stations (lol), then M.Pire return to empire, to sell bpc packs.... did I miss anything ??
Aye, M.Corp has always sold bpcs in empire you muppet... typical of a RaGoon alt -------
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Camber Tremodian
Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:40:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 01/10/2007 12:14:10 Why don't you just do it now? BoB have zero impact on what is going on in the north-east, they are nowhere near that area, and likewise you guys are not really taking any sort of pro-active measures to attack your so-called enemies either.
It's all a front, you all put BoB out there as the excuse for why you need to huddle together. In reality, you could reset standings at any time, but you just don't want to because thats outside your comfort zone.
If things don't go the way you think they are going to go, god help you when the pendulum swings in your direction.
When MC invaded with their then invincible supercaps, it didn't go our direction.
When Razor lost all it's space, it didn't go our direction.
We stuck with our friends and allies, and fought till you took everything out of our dying hands. Losing everything sure didn't go in our direction.
We've proven ourselves. Nuff said.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Camber Tremodian
We stuck with our friends and allies, and fought till you took everything out of our dying hands. Losing everything sure didn't go in our direction.
We've proven ourselves. Nuff said.
Realy i remember a lot of razor posts about tacticaly withdrawing til MC left il try to find one for ya lol.
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eleuthereus
Gallente The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:43:00 -
[323]
Originally by: NO BRAKES You sound pretty bitter for someone who "got over" goonfleet a long time ago.
     
Dude, that's not bitter. That's called, I just don't like you. But I am amused that you don't seem to know the difference. Goons = always good for a laugh. I'll give you that. Don't forget to pack your peanut butter and jelly sandwich inside your transformers lunch pail. The bus is waiting.  ________________________
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Gerowien Sunrunner
Caldari Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:54:00 -
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Funny thing, what I see here mostly are posts of M.Pire/Fatal/CoW and RZR/FATAL+Friends on how fun and fair everything was AND posts of some Goons+unidetified Alts that can¦t stand that , maybe you never understood what we all had up north while you where busy blameing us all ? Nevertheless, face the truth, you can flame as much as you want here, but you¦re not going to change the minds of "us (ex-)northerens" how it has been, nor can you turn anyone to your crude points of view on things.
Again, I am surprised and glad about the way former foes posting here about what was, thanks for that and we¦re gonna meet again anyway somehow for sure :)
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: eleuthereus
Originally by: NO BRAKES You sound pretty bitter for someone who "got over" goonfleet a long time ago.
     
Dude, that's not bitter. That's called, I just don't like you. But I am amused that you don't seem to know the difference. Goons = always good for a laugh. I'll give you that. Don't forget to pack your peanut butter and jelly sandwich inside your transformers lunch pail. The bus is waiting. 
Enjoy empire.
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Zuberi
Minmatar M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:01:00 -
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Great fight RZR & Co. (lots of company). Great Fight Tri as well, keeping things interesting is good.
It was a hard earned and expensive victory, but you did earn it.
Huge props to my alliance mates, Fatal, and CoW. Quite a few of us had just jumped up/built another round of ships for the war and were engaging the enemy with 80 v 300 numbers up to the day of surrender.
These boards are mostly a place for smack from people not involved, it is a much clearer picture of things out in space. There are not a lot of hard feelings between the enemies in this northern war, and the post-truce behaviour has been frighteningly civil.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:07:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Gerowien Sunrunner Goons+unidetified Alts that can¦t stand that , maybe you never understood what we all had up north while you where busy blameing us all ? Nevertheless, face the truth, you can flame as much as you want here, but you¦re not going to change the minds of "us (ex-)northerens" how it has been, nor can you turn anyone to your crude points of view on things.
I will never understand what you had, only that you lost it in surrender.
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SigmaPi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Sujinder I don't see anyone from MPIRE moaning here, why don't you resist the urge to chip-in lame comments from the side? Why the **** are you anyway? and why should we care?
Why would m-pire moan on here you negotiated a surrender without informing your allies, basicaly bailing on them and giving them not much of a choice but to surrender as well.
I'd like to make something very clear:
M.Pire did not resign from this battle without first informing the leadership of the other alliances. Just because Joe Blow from FATAL and Jane Shmane from CoW didnt know about the surrender until after their respective alliances had followed suit doesnt mean that the leadership didnt know.
I respect a great many folks from the people we have been fighting so dilligently the last months. I wish them (honestly) the very best in the game. They faught very well right up to the last, and just because we "won" doesnt mean it couldnt have turned out very differently under slightly different circumstances.
It was our role to put as much pressure on the forces of M.Pire, FATAL, and CoW, and for the first time in BKG, we managed to keep the pressure up 23 hours of the day. For the first two days we were sieging POSes and Station constantly, and (though i wish it had lasted longer) understand exactly where and why the M.Pire/FATAL/CoW alliances decided to throw in the towel. Who knows, in time maybe they two will pull a RZR and take their space back.
Again, I want to offer a GF to all of my worthy foes who made this game fun for so many months. I really do wish you all the very best.
/Siggy
SigmaPi Cutting Edge Incorporated Executive Commander RAZOR Alliance
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.01 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: putukas Edited by: putukas on 01/10/2007 10:24:24
It's gonna be happy blueland... carebear heaven. personally im not happy that m.pire surrendered and left us no other option but to do the same. It was decission made too fast. But on another hand it's is good to see how many alliances worked together to kill us. There was atleast ~10 smaller and bigger alliances fighting us. Props for being better in politics and you sure did cry better then us when you were in trouble. Your mighty blob got spanked two times and you just took more and more friends with you. RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
Atleast we have cuts to admit we lost this fight, do not come to CAOD to talk goonss**t like some of the posts are here.
Those who call us BoB pets should stfu. Did you ever see any bob or MC in our fleets? Did we cry for help? We fought as much as possible and would have fought more.
This is directed and those of you who have chosen to take bitter little pot-shots here in this forum.
We've tried to be gracious in victory. Against our better judgement, we're letting you guys out of here with most of your assets intact. The very least you could do is tone down the bitter, self-serving rhetoric.
I can see where some of you might be bent about basically having your decisions made for you by M.Pire throwing in the towel. Still, you chose to quit, too.
The vast majority of the bitterness spewed in yours and other posts in this thread is completely uncalled for. After the past few months of watching certain members of CoW post in this forum and fighting you guys in the north, I think I have your measure and I find it lacking, to say the least.
Granted, a couple of poorly planned assaults got beaten back by you guys. Credit where credit is due. We learned from our mistakes and changed things up and ended up winning the day. On a day to day basis, I believe you'll find we gave you guys better than we got. With or without blobs. I can't remember too many non-pos related engagements that we lost vs. you guys. We rarely had any trouble fighting you. Once we bit off a bit more than we were prepared for. Another time, we achieved our main objective, but failed to take BKG. When we resolved to get the job done for sure, come hell or high water, we did. Deal with it. See ya later. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
You didn't face any more people at the end than you did when you decided to become interlopers in an area you weren't welcome. There was no crying or whining involved, unless we wish to get into characterizing your own rants as such.
If we're such a push-over, come on back, bud. Any time.
To be honest, we couldn't care less that you need to cling to the security blanket that is the "Northern Napfest" allegation. Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel more like "men" is fine. You're good, but you're not better than us. No one really cares whether you believe standings will be reset with this is all over.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 23:02:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Gerowien Sunrunner Edited by: Gerowien Sunrunner on 01/10/2007 18:05:29 Funny thing, what I see here mostly are posts of M.Pire/Fatal/CoW and RZR/MM/Tri on how fun and fair everything was AND posts of some Goons+unidetified Alts that can¦t stand that , maybe you never understood what we all had up north while you where busy blameing us all ? Nevertheless, face the truth, you can flame as much as you want here, but you¦re not going to change the minds of "us (ex-)northerens" how it has been, nor can you turn anyone to your crude points of view on things.
Again, I am surprised and glad about the way former foes posting here about what was, thanks for that and we¦re gonna meet again anyway somehow for sure :)
Just my personal 2 cents...
*edit* was typing faster than thinking...
Considering we sent you north in the first place, I reckon a few el oh el's are more than deserved.
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.01 23:39:00 -
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I haven't been on here much, because I'm only quasi-important in STK, not in M.Pire or anywhere else in general really.
The M.Pire leadership had to make a pretty tough decision, but I can understand why it went the way it did.
The alliance assets that were moved out over the last couple of days were the culmination of work of hundreds of people, putting thousands of hours of their playtime to make life more fun for everyone.
We could have said "Screw You" and sat and fought it out but what would that gain? Some E-Honor? I'm all about fighting the good fight, but after a day of anger and disbelief I realized it was the right thing to do for our alliance.
Everyone can sit around and throw all the rocks they want but M.Pire only had enough POS fuel for a couple more days at the most, and if we would have fought it out we would have still lost based on POS warfare.
Then everything that the M.Pire members busted their humps for would be stuck in stations when the soverignity switched.
Is E-honor important? Yeah, it is to an extent. But I learned when ASCN got kicked out of Feythabolis that "Fighting the good fight" and losing everything sure is a ***** when you're ninja ratting in a Caracal because you've lost every single asset in enemy stations.
So why fight it out? Who are we supposed to be trying to impress? The people that are causing the most to-do about it are the Goons. There are people that I like in the goons (That I still can't believe they joined) but for the most part they live up to their namesake.
Do I care what they think about me? Some of them I do, but the greater majority (Hovering around 99.8%, repeating) I could really care less.
So go ahead and feel free to point, laugh, spam and troll.
People will see M.Pire in the middle of the mayhem soon enough.
On a side note, regardless of the outcome it was a rollicking couple of days in Branch, I had enough pew pew to last me for a couple of weeks... lol
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr I haven't been on here much, because I'm only quasi-important in STK, not in M.Pire or anywhere else in general really.
The M.Pire leadership had to make a pretty tough decision, but I can understand why it went the way it did.
The alliance assets that were moved out over the last couple of days were the culmination of work of hundreds of people, putting thousands of hours of their playtime to make life more fun for everyone.
We could have said "Screw You" and sat and fought it out but what would that gain? Some E-Honor? I'm all about fighting the good fight, but after a day of anger and disbelief I realized it was the right thing to do for our alliance.
Everyone can sit around and throw all the rocks they want but M.Pire only had enough POS fuel for a couple more days at the most, and if we would have fought it out we would have still lost based on POS warfare.
Then everything that the M.Pire members busted their humps for would be stuck in stations when the soverignity switched.
Is E-honor important? Yeah, it is to an extent. But I learned when ASCN got kicked out of Feythabolis that "Fighting the good fight" and losing everything sure is a ***** when you're ninja ratting in a Caracal because you've lost every single asset in enemy stations.
So why fight it out? Who are we supposed to be trying to impress? The people that are causing the most to-do about it are the Goons. There are people that I like in the goons (That I still can't believe they joined) but for the most part they live up to their namesake.
Do I care what they think about me? Some of them I do, but the greater majority (Hovering around 99.8%, repeating) I could really care less.
So go ahead and feel free to point, laugh, spam and troll.
People will see M.Pire in the middle of the mayhem soon enough.
On a side note, regardless of the outcome it was a rollicking couple of days in Branch, I had enough pew pew to last me for a couple of weeks... lol
Am I one of the Goons you like? Please this is important, I need this.
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 00:04:00 -
[333]
jesus christ 
it's a game where you get together with some mates for a scrap flying internet spaceships, against another group of folk that also play the game. at the end you congratulate the winner and thank the loser for a good time, and go off to find another fight.
i hope everyone enjoyed the fight, spectators included, and hopes there's many more in future. i hope the angry people chill out and get back to having a bit of fun too.
regards, me  _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 02/10/2007 00:46:00
Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 01/10/2007 22:55:44
This is directed and those of you who have chosen to take bitter little pot-shots here in this forum.
We've tried to be gracious in victory. Against our better judgement, we're letting you guys out of here with most of your assets intact. The very least you could do is tone down the bitter, self-serving rhetoric.
I can see where some of you might be bent about basically having your decisions made for you by M.Pire throwing in the towel. Still, you chose to quit, too.
The vast majority of the bitterness spewed in yours and other posts in this thread is completely uncalled for. After the past few months of watching certain members of CoW post in this forum and fighting you guys in the north, I think I have your measure and I find it lacking, to say the least.
Granted, a couple of poorly planned assaults got beaten back by you guys. Credit where credit is due. We learned from our mistakes and changed things up and ended up winning the day. On a day to day basis, I believe you'll find we gave you guys better than we got. With or without blobs. I can't remember too many non-pos related engagements that we lost vs. you guys. We rarely had any trouble fighting you. Once we bit off a bit more than we were prepared for. Another time, we achieved our main objective, but failed to take BKG. When we resolved to get the job done for sure, come hell or high water, we did. Deal with it. See ya later. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
You didn't face any more people at the end than you did when you decided to become interlopers in an area you weren't welcome. There was no crying or whining involved, unless we wish to get into characterizing your own rants as such.
If we're such a push-over, come on back, bud. Any time.
To be honest, we couldn't care less that you need to cling to the security blanket that is the "Northern Napfest" allegation. Whatever you need to tell yourself to feel more like "men" is fine. You're good, but you're not better than us. No one really cares whether you believe standings will be reset when this is all over.
Indeed you have been gracious in victory. I disagree with your measure of my alliance, however.
While you yourself pretty consistently have made many very informative and generally clever posts, letting yourself lash out in general towards CoW is a mistake.
Initially I wanted to do that about your corp for instance, seeing a number of trolling posts in a row from other members, then you posted (later others as well) and it made me remember that generalizations always lead to misconceptions.
I had fun when I had time to participate up north, I particulary enjoyed the 2nd assault you made on bkg - the day we had God knows how many engagements at various posses. Till next time.
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 00:57:00 -
[335]
what 'Nebuchadnezzar' said, there's muppets in every single alliance in the game, don't assume they represent everyone (please! ). most people in every alliance are just out to have a good time... let the opposing minority groups of gimps pull faces at each other, and the rest shake hands and enjoy themselves. _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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Sanguinnus
Gallente Malicious Intentions Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 01:19:00 -
[336]
TBH it was a gf, no smack, interesting fights, i had a lot of fun fighting you guise.
gg wp etc etc
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.02 02:52:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 02/10/2007 00:46:00
Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 01/10/2007 22:55:44
This is directed and those of you who have chosen to take bitter little pot-shots here in this forum.
We've tried to be gracious in victory. Against our better judgement, we're letting you guys out of here with most of your assets intact. The very least you could do is tone down the bitter, self-serving rhetoric.
I can see where some of you might be bent about basically having your decisions made for you by M.Pire throwing in the towel. Still, you chose to quit, too.
The vast majority of the bitterness spewed in yours and other posts in this thread is completely uncalled for. After the past few months of watching certain members of CoW post in this forum and fighting you guys in the north, I think I have your measure and I find it lacking, to say the least.
<snip>
Indeed you have been gracious in victory. I disagree with your measure of my alliance, however.
While you yourself pretty consistently have made many very informative and generally clever posts, letting yourself lash out in general towards CoW is a mistake.
Initially I wanted to do that about your corp for instance, seeing a number of trolling posts in a row from other members, then you posted (later others as well) and it made me remember that generalizations always lead to misconceptions.
I had fun when I had time to participate up north, I particulary enjoyed the 2nd assault you made on bkg - the day we had God knows how many engagements at various posses. Till next time.
A number of trolling posts from other members? Please point them out. Apart from my responses in here, there are only a few other MM posts...maybe eight or so in a twelve page thread? All of them either neutral or congratulatory. Two of them, in direct response to a CoW post said nothing more than " " and "/signed." I went through all 12 pages. If I missed something, please point them out and I will stand corrected.
I think that if you go back through the history of every CAOD thread on the North since CoW moved up here, you'll see that, of the directly involved combatants, the lion's share of the smack and derogatory comments have come from your alliance and certain other members of your bloc. putukas is even one of your leaders, is he not? See any MM leaders talking smack? Heck, we have even bothered to post one of those "announcements" everyone is so fond of? No. We never do. MM doesn't start threads.
I wholeheartedly agree with you about making generalizations. Hence, my disclaimer that my comments were directed at those of you who can't seem to help themselves. Unfortunately for you, they represent your presence here, just as I represent my alliance's presence here. To the extent I have over-generalized, I apologize. My only explanation is that part of my job has been to read this forum and address your smackers and sometimes is has kept me busier than I'd like to see. 
Like you, we in MM have had a great time up here fighting you guys. You proved to be a challenging foe and we appreciate and salute your efforts in the North. In the end, you weren't give a whole lot of choice, but then it's not really our job to do that. We had our own agenda to attend to.
See you guys in space. o7
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ACHURA CALDARIAN
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 04:11:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Gerowien Sunrunner Edited by: Gerowien Sunrunner on 01/10/2007 18:05:29 Funny thing, what I see here mostly are posts of M.Pire/Fatal/CoW and RZR/MM/Tri on how fun and fair everything was AND posts of some Goons+unidetified Alts that can¦t stand that , maybe you never understood what we all had up north while you where busy blameing us all ? Nevertheless, face the truth, you can flame as much as you want here, but you¦re not going to change the minds of "us (ex-)northerens" how it has been, nor can you turn anyone to your crude points of view on things.
Again, I am surprised and glad about the way former foes posting here about what was, thanks for that and we¦re gonna meet again anyway somehow for sure :)
Just my personal 2 cents...
*edit* was typing faster than thinking...
First of all want to say GF and wish you luck elsewhere you land in the future .But i bolded that "us (ex-)northerens" because we never thought you a part of the north
REGARDS PS: All games are for fun and it was fun to fight all those months GF and good luck in your future adventures in EVE
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JennyCraigSuccessStory
Hi Friend
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Posted - 2007.10.02 04:16:00 -
[339]
imo you should call off the surrender and kill them. All they do is whine and talk crap on the forums.
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.10.02 06:06:00 -
[340]
IMO a surrender was the biggest blow MM/Razor et all could have had levied against them. Fighting for a few more weeks with the numbers on their side would have left M.Pire Fatal and co , in a very weak position, sure it would have cost them some also. They way they are leaving 'early' now they still have a good chance at making it as alliances. So many assets intact, it's almost a loss letting them surrender 
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.02 06:25:00 -
[341]
Oh wow. Cow really are the smacktards I'd heard they were.
Here's an idea...learn from your friends, cause you're just embarrasing them by your immaturity. Accept defeat and just move on 
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NeverL
Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 06:36:00 -
[342]
be easy on us, we dont have a home [emotear] ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir. |

Zanarkand
Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zanarkand on 02/10/2007 08:24:32
Originally by: Plague Black
Originally by: putukas RZR and MM alone would have been walk in a park like it was first in v7-mid and second time in bkg assault.
  
(I'm not allowed to post so I will just stick to emotes)
I am fairly sure he meant MM/RZR vs M.pire/Fatal/CoW.
CoW has never had a larger than 50 man pvp gang, so...
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Zanarkand
Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:27:00 -
[344]
Edited by: Zanarkand on 02/10/2007 08:28:32 Edited by: Zanarkand on 02/10/2007 08:27:48
Originally by: Schwarz3r Calm down. Your alliance friends got owned 1 year ago in C-J, when they were trying to capture it. And they got owned by 30 bs and 20 cruisers. In other hand they had 1000+ fleet and ****load of capitals. Ask Putukas, if you dont believe me. It's fact that you guys, have lack of skill. I am not surprised that you lost this battles.
Please tell your stories of the methods RA used for this. Or make a new forum topic about the ever so great RA.
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: xBlood Accept defeat and just move on 
Agree. And we should stop feeding the trolls. Not every stupid offending remark of some random guy is worth a reply.
Obviously it's a matter of perception, who owned how much. With so many people, you'll always find guys on both side, who think they completely 'owned' and the other side 'sucks', because of whatever. Often better to just accept someones opinion in that case and not start to argue, because this 'You suck, because ...', 'No, you suck because...' talk just leads to more and more people on both sides getting angry.
We should all relax a bit instead I think, instead of exploding and posting another thing that offends the next one. ___________ I've never been so serious as I am now. No, really. |

marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: SigmaPi
Originally by: marakor
Why would m-pire moan on here you negotiated a surrender without informing your allies, basicaly bailing on them and giving them not much of a choice but to surrender as well.
I'd like to make something very clear:
M.Pire did not resign from this battle without first informing the leadership of the other alliances. Just because Joe Blow from FATAL and Jane Shmane from CoW didnt know about the surrender until after their respective alliances had followed suit doesnt mean that the leadership didnt know.
Check your facts m8 theres been plenty of mpire and cow/fatal on here sayin that mpire did'nt mention there surrender and that fatal and the others were actualy in battle when your standings were reset. Plus ive personaly spoken to the alliance leader in fatal and he was'nt informed til after either. Oh also if you look back on this thread velios or whattever his name is also confirms it and he is one of your main FC's i believe.
Heres an idea for ya bud, how about you do not consider your members who actualy fight and lose isk and pay for game time "joe blow" and "jane shmane" and maybe you will get a better team and responce from them.
But id like to know why after losing one system and 2 days or so after FATAL put up a third out post and have high SOV levels in their area you feel you needed to surrender instead of falling back?. You have on paper 3000 ppl and if you all had defended de4r/eqi and 4dt you would have at least looked like fighters instead of a bunch of carebear losers who lose a single systewm and bail on the entire war.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:24:00 -
[347]
Originally by: marakor stuff...
Are you printing these pages to study them on the loo?
... just wondering...
The general idea of this thread was passed 11 pages ago and the summary was: GF
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: marakor Check your facts m8 theres been plenty of mpire and cow/fatal on here sayin that mpire did'nt mention there surrender and that fatal and the others were actualy in battle when your standings were reset. Plus ive personaly spoken to the alliance leader in fatal and he was'nt informed til after either. Oh also if you look back on this thread velios or whattever his name is also confirms it and he is one of your main FC's i believe.
Sophisticatedlimabean (time for a new forum warrior, this one is busted!) keep going, this is making us laugh our heads off :-D You do realise that SigmaPi is from Razor? And no, Velios is not 'one of your main FC's' since Velios is in M.PIRE. LOL.
Originally by: marakor Heres an idea for ya bud, how about you do not consider your members who actualy fight and lose isk and pay for game time "joe blow" and "jane shmane" and maybe you will get a better team and responce from them.
LOL, not content with lecturing FATAL, you're now lecturing RZR too?
Originally by: marakor But id like to know why after losing one system and 2 days or so after FATAL put up a third out post and have high SOV levels in their area you feel you needed to surrender instead of falling back?. You have on paper 3000 ppl and if you all had defended de4r/eqi and 4dt you would have at least looked like fighters instead of a bunch of carebear losers who lose a single system and bail on the entire war.
Quite. A lot of us don't know the answer to that one either tbh. However it is by the by, what's done is done. Evidently our best PVP'r left to join Tri and it has never been the same since. We will all be watching your employment history btw ;-)
Finally with regard to this thread, this is no place to be posting smack about our *enemy*. Be gracious in your defeat and respect the opposing team in their victory. Lick your wounds, learn from the experiences and move on to better yourself and your corp/alliance.
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KracKaTinny
Minmatar STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.02 11:38:00 -
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Since my last post was snipped i shall try again (forgot that damn corp ticker, hehe)
I would just like to pass on my congratulations and props to RAZOR, MM and Co for the successful campaign against us in Branch. There had been many twists and turns with the war up north, and full credit needs to be paid to the leadership of the alliances involved with the change of tactics after previous unsuccessful campaigns in V7 and BKG..it was a true master-stroke on your behalf...and also to your troops that executed this plan to perfection.
For me personally, i have had probably the best times i can remember since playing this game, and although this is born mostly from my fellow pilots from MPIRE / FATAL and CoW, it also has alot to do with the quality of the opposition. In particular to the razor guys: Earnest / Red Water / xHomicide / Serina....oh and chequrself when he ever gets out of his damn BS's and learns to fit a hurricane ...a true quality bunch that i have had the pleasure of flying against many times...top job, good fights and never smack in local...just good ol fashioned friendly banter that we all got a laugh out of. xHomicide..i really hope they actually let u farm now mate, hehe.
To the pilots of MPIRE / FATAL / CoW...top job guys. We gave it our best out there but at the end of the day...it wasnt enough. The leadership also needs to be paid their dues for one of..if not the hardest decesion any alliance can make. I had hoped for more pew pew...but it shows that some here actually do care about the pilots they command...and the current NAP allows these guys to get out with what they had and rebuild.as opposed to leaving with nothing...usually not even in a pod.
Although im certain M.CORP and STK-Scientific will stay close...i really hope the others come along on the next adventure...as we have become great friends up here..and u all have my respect. In particular again...to Sister Bliss..simply one of the finest FCs i have had the pleasure to be led by...i do hope i get to fly with you again. To Blackhole Bob..a true morale booster on comms always..and mccool..seriously dude...u need to be schooled on the art of smashin down scotch on a daily basis (and i thought irishmen were hard, lol)
Good job and well played to all that were involved. We look forward to our next campaign...wherever that may be...and hope to see some of on the field again soon.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:28:00 -
[350]
Edited by: marakor on 02/10/2007 12:31:48
Originally by: marakor Check your facts m8 theres been plenty of mpire and cow/fatal on here sayin that mpire did'nt mention there surrender and that fatal and the others were actualy in battle when your standings were reset. Plus ive personaly spoken to the alliance leader in fatal and he was'nt informed til after either. Oh also if you look back on this thread velios or whattever his name is also confirms it and he is one of your main FC's i believe.
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare [Sophisticatedlimabean (time for a new forum warrior, this one is busted!) keep going, this is making us laugh our heads off :-D You do realise that SigmaPi is from Razor? And no, Velios is not 'one of your main FC's' since Velios is in M.PIRE. LOL.
OK il start here and use small words.
Firstly your right i did make an error in typing ( i put your instead of their) and i do know that velios is a mpire FC and if you check he did apologise about bailing without informing fatal/cow of the decision (wow you realy are held in high regard and part of the big decision making in that coalition aint ya).
Oh also ive never denied who my main is but he is in a alt corp now and will get snipped you moron.
Originally by: marakor Heres an idea for ya bud, how about you do not consider your members who actualy fight and lose isk and pay for game time "joe blow" and "jane shmane" and maybe you will get a better team and responce from them.
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare
LOL, not content with lecturing FATAL, you're now lecturing RZR too?
Actualy calling members who pay isk/tax and real money to play the game names like "joe blow" and jane shmane" is very disrespectful so yes i did comment on and and i standby my comment. Im sure a popular FC (lol lost every fleet op youve led and a mayor war after losing only one system) thinks of the isk and time ppl put in to actualy fly ships as just a stepping stone to glory and have little respect for them but for myself i find those sort of names and calling ppl them disrespectful.
Originally by: marakor But id like to know why after losing one system and 2 days or so after FATAL put up a third out post and have high SOV levels in their area you feel you needed to surrender instead of falling back?. You have on paper 3000 ppl and if you all had defended de4r/eqi and 4dt you would have at least looked like fighters instead of a bunch of carebear losers who lose a single system and bail on the entire war.
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare
Quite. A lot of us don't know the answer to that one either tbh.
If you actualy post with your main who is in a corp and will not get snipped ppl will see that you are the FATAL FC that led them to this, and you dont know why mpire bailed without mentioning it to FATAL and COW?.
Wow they must hold you in the same regard and respect as myself and the others who left fatal when you decided to start calling youself a FC. Id say after a few weeks of your FCing and failiures that mpire has had enough, as the rest of us did that left months ago.
Like i said before stick to saying "warp to(insert name of who ever is probing out logged off ships)" and calling it FCing its the area your best at.
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Velios
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:32:00 -
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This forum battle is more legendary than the actual battles you refer to in your posts!
You are making drama where none exists to be honest, now pipe down, and think about ways to ensure that the same thing that happened to us never happens to TRI.
You sound like the man for the job!
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:36:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Velios This forum battle is more legendary than the actual battles you refer to in your posts!
You are making drama where none exists to be honest, now pipe down, and think about ways to ensure that the same thing that happened to us never happens to TRI.
You sound like the man for the job!
Il say it again as i have a few times already for the ******s in the audience my main is in a npc corp and im not in tri. Oh and i left to join a buddys new alliance/corp cos he asked me before the more predictable and stupid ask or accuse me of getting booted
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Marlon Shakespeare on 02/10/2007 12:45:27
Originally by: marakor Il say it again as i have a few times already for the ******s in the audience my main is in a npc corp and im not in tri. Oh and i left to join a buddys new alliance/corp cos he asked me before the more predictable and stupid ask or accuse me of getting booted
Your buddy runs an NPC corp? I had buddy's like that once, they gave me loyalty points
I wish I coulda been there when you told Tri your strategy for using stealth bombers ;-)
Ps. check corp ticker.
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Hydrogen
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:57:00 -
[354]
Actually I found it very impressing, when I scouted all routes to BKG right before the final assault took place. I read alliance chat all the time, saw the alliance mails and watched that RK gang of 60 hugging their gate, waiting for the old North and friends to call the start of the BKG assault.
Later on I scouted all the stragglers coming after the main fleet: like 2-3 ppl a minute - that happened over HOURS. A steady flow of new attackers, while we started with like 20 ppl defending. All that while those in BKG took care about disabling the Cyno jammer.
- Cudos for fielding the numbers - everytime when it was needed during the BKG assault. - Cudos for the organization and logistics, which were needed to prepare it. - Cudos for executing a premade plan. - Cudos for making sure our intelligence did not know about it beforehand. - Cudos for the dedication.
Last but not least: Cudos for a perfect end in your favor while treating us with respect.
Despite all those forum warriors - at least I saw most part of your logistics, when you executed it. Looking at the overkill it finally was shows me, that you had sane reasons to make 100% sure to succeed and to not make a mistake. None would have done it to defeat some unskilled n00bs or Carebears.
Those who smack here just have no clue what it means to have your memberbase burned out by constant fighting and how constant the pressure on both sides was. Even the night before the assault on BKG, the old and now again united North for sure felt the pressure with new POSs anchored in their space.
It was real fun and worth every minute being there.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:57:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare Edited by: Marlon Shakespeare on 02/10/2007 12:45:27
Originally by: marakor Il say it again as i have a few times already for the ******s in the audience my main is in a npc corp and im not in tri. Oh and i left to join a buddys new alliance/corp cos he asked me before the more predictable and stupid ask or accuse me of getting booted
Your buddy runs an NPC corp? I had buddy's like that once, they gave me loyalty points
I wish I coulda been there when you told Tri your strategy for using stealth bombers ;-)
Ps. check corp ticker.
You are the biggest ****** in eve my main hasnt joined yet cos im moving my stuff.
Is trying to pick fault with my typing the best the FC that led fatal and the new north to its most embarressing defeat and wasnt even informed when half his coalition reset srtandings has to offer?.
And what SB idea?,we tried out a few and other scenarios that are quite above and beyond you idea of combat.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:17:00 -
[356]
Originally by: Hydrogen *snip*
Isnt it Kudos? Using letter K not C?
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Nemain Darru
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:31:00 -
[357]
Originally by: marakor waaaah waaaaah
could you like, go away? You're neither funny nor clever. Insightful nor eloquent.
We don't need you.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:37:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Nemain Darru
Originally by: marakor THE UNSPUN TRUTH
could you like, go away? You're neither funny nor clever. Insightful nor eloquent.
We don't need you.
careful posting with alts gets you trolled.
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Nemain Darru
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:48:00 -
[359]
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Nemain Darru
Originally by: marakor THE UNSPUN TRUTH
could you like, go away? You're neither funny nor clever. Insightful nor eloquent.
We don't need you.
careful posting with alts gets you trolled.
What alt? nublet.
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Cedori
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.02 14:02:00 -
[360]
So I need to repeat the disclaimer that is my signature: I am not a MM Diplo, nor do I speak for MM in any way, shape, or form. Orree does a damn fine job of that in my opinion, way better then I can do.
Personally however, I will say this. I was at the fall of BKG/LXWN and the fall of D2. I'd be willing to bet that if M.Pire/FATAL/CoW had shown up on their own, they still probably would have carved a chunk of the north for their own, and they would not have inspired the almost rabid hatred that they did. D2 was disorganized, and you guys were organized, and that usually is what it takes to win.
But, like it or not, you guys were put in place by MC, and as such you had to be removed. Pity honestly as I liked you guys as targets, and if you hadn't be put in place by MC you might still be around. That simple fact instilled such vitriol in the rest of the north, and meant that you were going away.
Too bad honestly, you guys were capable opponents and worthy enemies, and while we've still got Tri to fight with, the north is going to seem less interesting with you gone.
Salute. May you complicate my life in the future.
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.02 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Orree A number of trolling posts from other members? Please point them out. Apart from my responses in here, there are only a few other MM posts...maybe eight or so in a twelve page thread? All of them either neutral or congratulatory. Two of them, in direct response to a CoW post said nothing more than "[:lol: " and "/signed." I went through all 12 pages. If I missed something, please point them out and I will stand corrected.
This was at the beginning (probably a bit after or around v7 attack) of the conflict, I honestly cannot be bothered to dig through them. You'll have to take my word or not for it, but i assure you those were my exact thoughts back then. I doubt it was any shiva leaders though, granted.
Anyhow, i will have to respectfully disagree with you. I dont think that CoW has been worse than most, and i can assure you that most of those who do it, at least in my corp, will get theirs. Imo this conflict has mostly had a decent tone about it, at least compared to so many others i've been a part of, always someone who easily get agitated then take it to the forums sadly.
Now im letting this die on my part :)
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Scav Silver
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 07:03:00 -
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Edited by: Scav Silver on 03/10/2007 07:03:50 I'm ****ed.. I didn't see the fall of BKG.. 
Damn RL..
ps:: how is "p i s s e d" a banned word??
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Pyotr Petitioner
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.10.03 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: Pyotr Petitioner on 03/10/2007 08:59:24 damn wrong char
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:00:00 -
[364]
Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:48:00 -
[365]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world.
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
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Abn Matar
Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.03 09:53:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit I missed nearly every body in fatal
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Asuo
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:03:00 -
[367]
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S3dINSTBE
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:07:00 -
[368]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world.
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:20:00 -
[369]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet.
I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit.
Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot.
Howler, Spang etc...
You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world.
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
Neither did I say that you turned up in cov ops to fleet ops, and without a mic. Or any other absurdities.
I really wish you had turned up without a mic, your outspoken opinions and crap tactics when we were in the drone regions, really made me mute you 90% of the time, the only time you weren't muted was when I had to listen to you. IE when you were in command.
Don't get me wrong I respected you for your dedication to the outpost building in the drone regions, I put in as much effort as I could during that time, I almost bankrupted myself during that time, all for the corp. I worked as hard as anyone did.
I don't remember any greedy people from my time in Fatal, that must have happend over the last 6 months. The old school crew still aren't greedy people I'd wager, and are as honest as they always were.
I just didn't like you.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:36:00 -
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Now all you need do is point out those poor tactics and you may get ppl to belive you. Oh and btw i think you got me mixed up with sombody else as apart from the amasingly successful cruiser gangs and the night we and MC killed the MS it was gunny/dj and others who led the support fleet in the drone area.
Try again or get your facts right bud.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:49:00 -
[371]
Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:58:00 -
[372]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet.
Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best.
Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:19:00 -
[373]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet.
Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best.
Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
Ow I am so hurt. why would I stop posting? I enjoy seeing you get more bitter and angry. :)
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fleg Dorchit
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody.
I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way.
Besides its really fun baiting you.
We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet.
Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best.
Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
Ow I am so hurt. why would I stop posting? I enjoy seeing you get more bitter and angry. :)
Buddy theres a party on the vent server im on and the only bitter on it is what is being drank along with other beers and plenty of loling at you and the fail-incarnate that is fatal.
we are looking for suitable names how about;
Failed At The Alliance Level
Thats the best we have come up with so far but seeing as your so clever with the "I was trying to bait you and i did'nt want to prove your a bad FC and lost those imaginary battles anyway".
Can you do better?.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 11:43:23 If you aren't so bitter why do you care so much? 
I mean you must be sitting there F5-ing the page constantly given the speed of your replies. 
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:50:00 -
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Honestly and without the entertaining baiting ive been doing?.
I not bitter now but i was after i saw how a great compact and dedicated pvp force that we were in the drone area had turned to s*it. I spent a lot of time and effort in g95 in bob space and then in branch trying to get ppl ready and there heads into what a 0.0 pos war was like with posts about building cruiser fleets and being on the offensive so our isk making areas were clear. All i got for my trouble was slapped down or ignored, so i left and yes i was very *****d off at a lot of fatal apart from the few hardcore old school boys who agreed with me (they later left as well).
So im gonna enjoy this to the utmost with lots of smack plenty of i told ya so's and a lot of LOLing.
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boeses frettchen
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 11:43:23 If you aren't so bitter why do you care so much? 
I mean you must be sitting there F5-ing the page constantly given the speed of your replies. 
Please this discussion has nothing to do with BKG, get in private convo  
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Blazde
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:18:00 -
[378]
Just wanted to echo KracKaTinny comments, from our side. It has been a very fun campaign. And that has nothing to do with the outcome, corp members will confirm I was raving about how much fun it was weeks ago. I was a bit gutted tbh to logon sunday and find everyone had finally surrendered.
There's a lot wrong with pos warfare and always has been but I do think the recent sov mechanic changes have spiced things up a lot. There's much more to it now that just jumping a capital fleet into your enemy's station and grinding it out for a week. Firstly we were forced to rush our (abortive) attack on V7 due to impending sov-3. Secondly the cyno-jammers and pos gunners give a huge defensive advantage forcing you to attack with a massive numerical advantage that's more in line with real-life parallels. It's unfortunate the nodes can't handle the load but hopefully that will improve. I cursed the jammer everytime it got in our way but together with jump bridges it's an excellent way of giving a defensive advantage (and forcing interesting cap vs non-cap battles) and I will learn to love it next time Tribute is invaded. In hindsight, after we worked through the difficulties, I don't think it needs weakening at all.
Getting the numerical advantage forced us to think outside the box and focus on the psychological aspect a bit more, attacking soft targets as well as disrupting supply lines, to break morale and reduce hostile numbers (ours did not increase, the peak for both sides was the evenly numbered 750-man battle in BKG some weeks ago when the node crashed). Imo we'd barely begun to explore the possibilities but I am confident future wars will see a lot more of it. And we had perhaps (?) the first proper seige of a non-station system in HB7. That fact alone is a thumbs-up for the sov changes.
Props to our adversaries, we had to switch up our game a few times to beat you and that kind of challenge is a lot of fun. As a member of RAWR I like to see our enemies crash and burn horribly but as a player it's especially sad to now see FATAL imploding. You guys gave us some good fights going back to our Fountain campaign and showed a real hardcore determination in defending Branch. I'll never forget the only time I ventured solo into the FATAL constellation at 4am, got camped, logged off, cooked a curry, ate it, logged back on and made a run for the gate only to find twice as many waiting patiently for me on the other side. Ouch  _
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved.
We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved.
We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up.
Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
Good God Man, go and create your own narcissistic whiny thread where you can be ridiculed at will away from the rest of us.
I don't think anyone cared that you had access to FATAL forums when you were in FATAL, and I doubt very much whether they care now either.
Your continued ranting is doing nothing for your personal reputation or that of your corp [which is a shame since there are great bunch of guys in TJORG].
Swallow that bitter pill and move on.
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HarrytheDog
Chosen Path FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 13:55:00 -
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Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit 
...and Harry doesn't mind if he don't make the scene; he's got a day-time job, he's doing all right...
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Asuo
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit 
I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work. -----------------------------------------------
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Cvuos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:26:00 -
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Can I get a confirm/deny on the same leadership that left LV members high&dry and ripped off their assets have done the same thing yet again?
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cvuos Can I get a confirm/deny on the same leadership that left LV members high&dry and ripped off their assets have done the same thing yet again?
That would be a deny, as Fatal Revelations left LV the night LV unveiled their Titan.
lose.
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Fleg Dorchit
Boozecakepie Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:37:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Asuo
Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit 
I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work.
Couldn't agree more, I thought this over 6 months ago before I left Fatal Rev.
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets.
Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved.
We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up.
Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
Great, you have access. Gunship has been on very rarely in the last month, so there's no way he could try to micromanage anything.. "greedy ppl in FATAL REV" has nothing to do with the alliance self-destructing, it was a decision made. Stupid accusations about fatal rev not handing over POS as a cause of conflict, they're unfounded.
You've obviously been listening to prom whine, because thats how it all started. UKC lost 3 freighters, and Prom trying to stand up and be an alliance leader turned to alliance chat and said it was fatal rev's fault. It wasn't.
Fatal Rev. pulled out with their own assets in disgust after a peace treaty was reached, there was no theft, there was no underhandedness. I believe, if you look, there is still a POS of ours in D4R, which I'm not in charge of but I assume is a part of that peace agreement..
So.. you may have forum access, but none of what you say exists on the forum and is obviously idle speculation, so please stop.
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:08:00 -
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Also, as to bean's personal character..
He wasn't a bad FC as far as I remember, but he is definitely a loud-mouthed tit - but I think he would agree with that statement too so I see nothing wrong with that.
Slagging him off personally for being negative and vocal about is a little out of line.
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Jaabaa Prime
M. Corp M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:10:00 -
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All things taken into account, I enjoyed my stay in the north, so congratulation to the winners.
Lots of PvP, relatively smack free and a whole lot of fun.
The only thing I didn't like was the lag, only to be expected when alliances collide, but the extremes that were experienced on both sides didn't really add to the enjoyment.
I can only hope that the upcoming Trinity II engine drastically reduces client lag and that CCP implements their plans for a true cluster solution on the server side.
Then alliance warfare should be more fun than frustration.
See you in space. --
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:12:00 -
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Very good posts by KracKaTinny and Blazde. Good reads, both of them.
It's a shame that a good portion of this thread has just been an airing of internal issues, but I think that those people who have stuck with the thread from beginning to end have been rewarded with some good accounts of the salient facts.
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: HarrytheDog in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting.
Yep, that's TJORG. Every alliance they've ever been in; they've left in tears, usually accompanied with smacktalk in every channel they've got access to.
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Tissa
Minmatar UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sebo Darrens Also, as to bean's personal character..
He wasn't a bad FC as far as I remember, but he is definitely a loud-mouthed tit - but I think he would agree with that statement too so I see nothing wrong with that.
Slagging him off personally for being negative and vocal about is a little out of line.
I agree with you on this one, sophie and I may have had a few words over philosophy but when it came to FCing he could hold his own.
He also believed in fatal.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 16:21:07
Originally by: Fleg Dorchit
Originally by: Asuo
Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit 
I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work.
Couldn't agree more, I thought this over 6 months ago before I left Fatal Rev.
Strange how im still getting invites to corps that are all ex-fatal and agree with me considering how poor at fcing and pvp i am. Its almost as if they know me and you guys are bitter about the fall of your pathetic alliance and looking to try to hit out at me for enjoying it.
And my problem was with the leadership and the memberswho sat in stations or logged of as soon as a hostile gang came into our area.
Example;
15 hostiles inbound, 180 members in alliance chat logged in, a call to gang goes out and the same 3-4 ppl x up everybody else goes deaf and dumb stops talking in alliance chat or in the security channels or on TS.
PS; To the last couple of hate mail boys
NONE OF THE 3-4 PPL I MENTIONED WERE YOU OR IN EITHER OF YOUR CORPS.
And i like being a load moth tit.
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Tissa
Minmatar UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean
And i like being a load moth tit.
a load moth tit? Quoted before you realize what you put down in the hope that someone from the JORG makes this your title. Still think your fiction rocks fella.
My views do not represent those of my corp or alliance. (Joined UKC 19/09/06) |

Gaurav
The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:54:00 -
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To RZR, MM, et al. I hope you have this campaign written somewhere. It would make quite an interesting reading from which we could all learn a lot.
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Znaei
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:32:00 -
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CoW,M.Pire and Fatal!! Dont forget this make him stand up to his promise! 
Not so hard! Air gets in between. |

S3dINSTBE
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Znaei CoW,M.Pire and Fatal!! Dont forget this make him stand up to his promise! 
They did it for the beerz _____________________________________ Desync compensation lvl 5 |

Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.03 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: HarrytheDog in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting.
Yep, that's TJORG. Every alliance they've ever been in; they've left in tears, usually accompanied with smacktalk in every channel they've got access to.
Err who are you? I've been in 3 alliances with the JORG, Sylph (left on good terms), Myriad (left cos they surrendered without a fight, but on good terms), FATAL (left cos of multiple reasons alot evident in this thread, again on good terms). Where your getting your info I have no idea.
And as for Sophisticated, he is actually a good FC, lots of small wolfpack gangs were some of the most fun I've had in eve, lots of kills and very few losses, how does that make a bad FC? He might go overboard speaking his mind, but thats why we love him, plus we gota have someone to match Goons on the forum lmao. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |

Nubmart
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 22:17:00 -
[399]
Bring back Wei Xiao, I never got to pop his dominix.
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.03 23:33:00 -
[400]
As always angor, so quick to forget the past, so quick to point the finger. I'll see you around sometime.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Elmicker Edited by: Elmicker on 03/10/2007 23:42:51 NVM. Totally not worth it. Mail me ingame angor if you really want to go down that route.
errr ok? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |

Archilies
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:30:00 -
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Sophi left because no one took him seroiusly bless him. Then he whined, and had a paddy because he claimed he had done all the work when in fact he had done **** all.
This is comming from a grown man, and in fact acts like a sulking 16 yr old teenager [kevin comes to mind]. Im guessing your what, 30's - 40's?. Yet you talk as if your 10.
There Was A Time When The World Asked Ordinary Men To Do Extraordinary Things |

Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.04 03:42:00 -
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When someone from FATAL Rev was leader of the alliance, u all followed as if it was gospel.
When Prom stepped upto bat after no one else would take it, u did NOT listen to him, he was the appointed leader of the alliance, and u took him about as seriously as a cat playing with a thimble.
If Omaha had been the one who had surrendered after MPire (would insert what i think here but corpies wouldnt like so i'll stay shtum)surrendered, u wouldnt have raised a word in protest.
Despite what some of you believed, FATAL Rev was NOT the whole alliance
D
If my views represent the views of my corporation and alliance, then you, sir/madam, are a spoon |

Privious
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 06:03:00 -
[404]
now now children, don't make me pull over the car ---------
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HarrytheDog
Chosen Path FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:00:00 -
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Quite right Sebo, personal attacks are beyond the pale and name-calling is just juvenile, so I apologise to Mr StringBean unreservedly. I could point out that he started it but that would be childish so I wont. Anyway, Sticks and Stones etc eh Sophie?  ...and Harry doesn't mind if he don't make the scene; he's got a day-time job, he's doing all right...
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:11:45 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:10:01 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:09:22
Originally by: Archilies Sophi left because no one took him seroiusly bless him.
Actualy a few ppl took me seriously and they left not long after i did.
And as a matter of interest how are you guys up in branch (those that did'nt take me seriously) doing????. Oh thats right LOL you just got booted out 2 days or so after deploying a third outpost after not even losing a single of your own systems.
Originally by: Archilies Then he whined, and had a paddy because he claimed he had done all the work when in fact he had done **** all..
1)Leading the most successful gangs ever in fatal (pre-carebear, so mostly before your time)
2) trying to organise a alliance fleet (one night of that and everybody bailed and the minerals went to build a capital ship for one of the inner circle)
3) spending loads of time on the test server trying to find new ways to combat blobing (with a few others helping with this who also left fatal in disgust before your debacle of a war)
4) Xing up for every OP if so much as a single ship came into our area (never saw you or many of your corp doing the same but you were always online)
5) training in system or posting on the alliance forum for the newer players who wanted advise on fittings/fleet ops (never saw you there either)
6) And yes going on and on and on about how if we continued to turtle up instead of fighting offensivly we would eventualy fall due to the fact we would be fighting in or near our isk making areas (Considering fatals last few days id say you and the rest of the arrogant r*tards should have listened more and slagged me off and ignored me less, but hey you guys are better at moving home and making isk than you will ever be at fighting)
I do not think anybody can argue that the fall of the new north coalition was way to soon considering their numbers and position/high sov left in a lot of systems.
Your and others dislike of me and my comments on this forum and fictional acusations regarding my lack of effort are part of your problem. The total collapse of your alliance was due to a complete lack of cohesion in the joke that FATAL turned into and just confirms why people like you will never be anything other than losers and parasites in eve.
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:31:00 -
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Why do you keep coming back here to get a bloody nose? Didn't we ask you to go and create your own self-flaggelating thread?
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Actualy a few ppl took me seriously and they left not long after i did.
And it shall forever remain a mystery who they were...
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1)Leading the most successful gangs ever in fatal (pre-carebear, so mostly before your time)
A grand statement, perhaps even true, though who can tell. Certainly not in the post YM- era. I wasn't with FATAL back then so I can't comment.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 2) trying to organise a alliance fleet (one night of that and everybody bailed and the minerals went to build a capital ship for one of the inner circle)
To your credit you did make a lot of effort at telling everyone else what they should be doing. And on this occasion you actually did *do* something. That said, you couldn't even follow that through, as all the minerals that were contracted to you mysteriously went into the ether never to be seen again. I'm not suggesting you kept them for yourself, but organising a mining op isn't exactly hard is it...?
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 3) spending loads of time on the test server trying to find new ways to combat blobing
Stealth Bomber Spoiler Alert?
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 5) training in system or posting on the alliance forum for the newer players who wanted advise on fittings/fleet ops (never saw you there either)
Most of us were training in Tenal while you were training in Aunenen *cough*. Killboard stats don't lie.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean [b]6) And yes going on and on and on about how if we continued to turtle up instead of fighting offensivly we would eventualy fall due to the fact we would be fighting in or near our isk making areas
What you failed to grasp back then, and still fail to grasp even now is that everyone knew everything you kept harping on about already and in many cases agreed. The constant rhetoric just ****ed everyone off, and the irony was that you became exactly the kind of player which you set out to hate.
Corporations and Alliances need people who step up to the plate and lead from the front, irrespective of the challenge and setbacks, not people who sit in the background ranting yet doing nothing themselves.
You had the choice and you chose to step down (I'm being generous here) because it was easier than winning the trust and confidence of your corp/alliance mates to join any gangs which you led (don't recall many).
Your repugnant vitriol reached it's heights when you would openly insult those who did step up and take out gangs with comments including "I hope you've learned your lesson" and "told you so" on the occasions when they came back unsuccessful.
And now sitting in smug self-delusion you wonder why no-one respects you?
Following your departure (no link), I believe FATAL did actually step up considerably, however it was unsustainable for a variety of reasons.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean but hey you guys are better at moving home and making isk than you will ever be at fighting)
Aunenen? lol.
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean The total collapse of your alliance was due to a complete lack of cohesion in the joke that FATAL turned into and just confirms why people like you will never be anything other than losers and parasites in eve.
Oh, we thought it was because you left us :-(
At least your last Alliance has seen fit to redress their recruitment policy.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 13:34:29 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 13:29:38 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL.
2) Yes the cruiser gangs were before we got a load of carebear *******s who think they know how to pvp like you in the alliance.
3)If you are acusing me of theft of those minerals that were for the alliance fleet i suggest you check your facts before saying they were contracted to me cos i led the pvp gang and never even saw them, they were given ON ORDERS FROM THE ALLIANCE LEADERS to a fatal guy to refine and never seen again.
4) Yes the syealth bombers were one of the ideas we had among lots others we tried to develop WHY ARE YOU FOCUSED ON THAT SINGLE IDEA myself and others tried out more ideas than i can remember on the test server over a period of 5-6 months?.
5) Your right i KB stats dont lie cos in fact i was in aunenen for 1 week out of 10-12 months in FATAL as i said earlier.
And by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you ****. I just saw how far the alliance had fallen and how few people actualy turned up for the fleet ops and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort. So instead they got stuck with a fella who thinks that losing the field and killing logged off ships with probers is a win for the home team.
The people who know me know im talking true (im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us) and those with eyes and ears outside the alliance see that a 3000 member coalition just folded after barley a fight then got into a internal bickering match that broke the alliance into shreds, this says it all about the quality of leadership,FCing and managment of it and confirms what im saying and the best the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks.
Fact- you and achillies and others slagging me off on this thread were leaders in FATAL and look at how FATAL is doing   .
ENOUGH SAID
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:00:00 -
[409]
Oh and i did'nt wanna spend ages finding spelling mistakes and cutting and pasting venom and hate so i just started a new post you should try it cos it makes you look less petty and fault finding. But at least youve moved away from spelling mistakes and grammar corrections lol.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 04/10/2007 14:12:09
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL.
Ok. So you make out like you were a major PvPer in FATAL alliance. You managed about 300 kills for 30 losses in your "10-12 months". Utterly pathetic. That's not even a kill a day. (Though, looking closer. Your fatal stats extend for 8 months. a full 4 months short of your 12 month estimate, please do stop exaggerating.)
Oh, and about 180 of those were in lowsec.
 
I'd be ashamed to have you as an alliance mate, too.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ivor Gunn Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 04/10/2007 14:12:09
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL.
Ok. So you make out like you were a major PvPer in FATAL alliance. You managed about 300 kills for 30 losses in your "10-12 months". Utterly pathetic. That's not even a kill a day. (Though, looking closer. Your fatal stats extend for 8 months. a full 4 months short of your 12 month estimate, please do stop exaggerating.)
Oh, and about 180 of those were in lowsec.
 
I'd be ashamed to have you as an alliance mate, too.
wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 04/10/2007 14:21:10 Dear Journal,
Last night, I went to the store cause she wanted a few things and I took the opportunity to buy a few beers.
I drank them if front of her frowning at me - I bought her some wine but I had to help her finish the bottle. After a few big burps, we went in bed experimenting various theories we had on specific parts of our body...
... no wait...
Mods : Probably should lock that one now, it's out of topic since page 6 or so anyway.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:22:00 -
[413]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?.
So, who're your uber leet fatal pvp alts, then? You know, to debunk the myth that 3/4 of your time was spent in lowsec ganking newbies.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:28:00 -
[414]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:30:24
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?.
So, who're your uber leet fatal pvp alts, then? You know, to debunk the myth that 3/4 of your time was spent in lowsec ganking newbies.
you do not realy expect me to tell you that so il lose my access to the forums and you can start trying to find fault with them as well. And if you look closer at the KB as you seem to like it you will see that most of the low sec kills were in aunenen in a single week as i said.
Also its always a good idea to FC from a cloaker as i did with this toon but thats not my idea i got it from MC.
Gotta love these personal attacks from the guys who led the biggest fail in eve history.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean you do not realy expect me to tell you that so il lose my access to the forums and you can start trying to find fault with them as well.
Well, if you'd been telling the truth and not exaggerating, i'd not be finding any faults at all, would i?
Quote: And if you look closer at the KB as you seem to like it you will see that most of the low sec kills were in aunenen in a single week as i said.
11 days. They make up nigh on 70% of your kills. If this is your main, that is a pathetic contribution to your alliance.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:36:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Well, if you'd been telling the truth and not exaggerating, i'd not be finding any faults at all, would i?
Considering your point was that i spent 3/4 of my time in low sec no your not finding fault your trying to and failing.
Quote:
11 days. They make up nigh on 70% of your kills. If this is your main, that is a pathetic contribution to your alliance.
And yes they make up 70% of my kills on this char as i said its my pirate dude your point?.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:42:00 -
[417]
Quote: And yes they make up 70% of my kills on this char as i said its my pirate dude your point?.
My point was you have no right to criticse your former alliance mates who stood and fought every day for the last 6 months, while you were either apparantly doing nothing at all, or were in empire. Or, using these mystical magical alts that have yet to be seen by anyone. Sophisticatedlimabean as a character is skilled for fleet BSes, yet it is painfully obvious he never flew them. Instead, by your own admission, you were swanning about cloaked, or pirating, or whoring forums on an alt. and STILL you're proud of your contributions to your alliance.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:51:29 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:49:57
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
My point was you have no right to criticse your former alliance mates who stood and fought every day for the last 6 months, while you were either apparantly doing nothing at all, or were in empire. Or, using these mystical magical alts that have yet to be seen by anyone. Sophisticatedlimabean as a character is skilled for fleet BSes, yet it is painfully obvious he never flew them. Instead, by your own admission, you were swanning about cloaked, or pirating, or whoring forums on an alt. and STILL you're proud of your contributions to your alliance.
So what you do not know you just asume the worst from a negative stance?.
I cannot even begin to count the ammount of gangs ive led or joined on one alt or another for fatal or the ammount of time spent on the test server trying things out or other things than sitting in a BS on a gate sniping at other ships although on one alt or another ive done plenty of that as well.
And even more personal attacks.
They must mean i was'nt right and fatal did'nt fail and fall in the most pathetic way possable.
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Marlon Shakespeare
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk ... before we got a load of carebear *******s ... on the test server over a period of 5-6 months ... by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you **** ... I just saw how far the alliance had fallen ... and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort ... im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us ... quality of leadership,FCing ... the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks.
So in summary you left (because we were going to lose?) before any of the major battles in the North actually took place, and then come onto the forums (you are an avid poster!) to insult everyone and call them cowards for not fighting harder?
Surely even you can see the irony and hypocrisy in your own posts?
You would have done well to have left graciously with some respect intact. If you fought with half the passion of your forum-warrioring you would have been a worthwhile member of the Alliance.
Take your bitterness to your own thread so we don't have to sift through your nonsense to read the worthwhile posts by our guys who have been (largely) gracious in their defeat and by our opponents who have been (largely) humble in their victory.
Those that fought hard had a blast and will take away great memories of sparring with MM/RZR et.al. We aren't dwelling in the past and are moving on.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk ... before we got a load of carebear *******s ... on the test server over a period of 5-6 months ... by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you **** ... I just saw how far the alliance had fallen ... and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort ... im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us ... quality of leadership,FCing ... the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks.
So in summary you left (because we were going to lose?) before any of the major battles in the North actually took place, and then come onto the forums (you are an avid poster!) to insult everyone and call them cowards for not fighting harder?
How can you be a coward in a virtual game you r*tard?. Incompetant yes, self deluding yes, stupid and narrow minded yes yes, selfish to the point of self destruction most certainly YES.
Please show me where i put cowardly cos on your newst snip i dont see it.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:04:00 -
[421]
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean How can you be a coward in a virtual game you r*tard?
Whoah, dude! Personal attacks!!
 
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 15:12:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Ivor Gunn
Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean How can you be a coward in a virtual game you r*tard?
Whoah, dude! Personal attacks!!
 
Somtimes when ppl post a acusation with a snip that says nothing to actualy prove their claim you just gotta let the ****** lose. lol
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Tissa
Minmatar UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.04 16:39:00 -
[423]
Sophie those that know you know you. Posting on COAD won't change the opinion of anyone good or bad. You were always a great FC and a nice fella on TS, and for the record there are a lot of our corp that remember you with fondness, but damn it old chap you don't know when to step away from the keyboard and put the mouse down.
Best thing you can do now is post a mildly amusing eve related kitty picture and ignore the thread.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.10.04 17:11:00 -
[424]
Originally by: DeTox MinRohim Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 04/10/2007 14:35:18 Dear Journal,
Last night, I went to the store cause she wanted a few things and I took the opportunity to buy a few beers.
I drank them if front of her frowning at me - I bought her some wine but I had to help her finish the bottle. After a few big burps, we went in bed experimenting various theories we had on specific parts of our body...
... no wait...
Mods : Probably should lock that one now, it's out of topic since page 6 or so anyway.
Heh..yeah...I was thinking to myself, "Remember when this thread was about what was going on in BKG?"
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Katherine Marx
Muff Diving
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:09:00 -
[425]
BEAN, get over yourself dude. if you were a decent FC maybe your alliance wouldn't be sucking donkey cods.
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n0sPIG
Blind Vengeance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 20:48:00 -
[426]
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:13:00 -
[427]
_______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |

Dylan Rhade
Caldari UK Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:19:00 -
[428]
Can u imagine Jerry Springer or other talk show (also known as stardom for common folk) hosts moderating this thread?
Dyl
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:26:00 -
[429]
Fine then... _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |

zilllii
Squirrel Power
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:01:00 -
[430]
fatal catfight?
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Love the new need for speed initiative.
Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about wha
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:12:00 -
[431]
cheese and pretzels
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Elmicker
Black Sea Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:15:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Dylan Rhade
Jerry Springer
Jeremy Kyle > Jerry Springer
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Baddias Mongo
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:19:00 -
[433]
Edited by: Baddias Mongo on 04/10/2007 22:22:30
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clagnuts
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 22:29:00 -
[434]
ive heard there gona make this thread into a soap opra
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:36:00 -
[435]
Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 23:46:33
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S3dINSTBE
The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 23:40:00 -
[436]
Originally by: clagnuts ive heard there gona make this thread into a soap opra
Yawnz.
I hate soap operas. Mythbusters FTW! _____________________________________
Desync compensation lvl 5
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.10.05 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 05/10/2007 12:15:15
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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