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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2652
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:41:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:Achaiah7 wrote:The tears, they precious. I can haz your stuffs? You can't. Cos you can't fly it. Now go back into your drake. If I recall right, we relieved you of the burden of Nyx ownership. You replaced it, and lost a Nyx and Ragnarok shortly thereafter. HEH Your spies are dead and burried long time ago prolly. 1. I do post with my main 2. I never lost a titan. 3. I lost a Nyx cos mittani is a jerk and is using his CSM chairman position ( which is outside the game ) in the game to scam people. 3. I lost another Nyx trying to save my friend's titan. 3. I did replace one Nyx and bought 1 more titan and was aiming to get another 2. If they really nerf the titans, I won't buy another, of course. I will also stop most of my accounts and keep only 3-4. I have 12 now. CCP will be happy I suppose. 4. No, you can't have my stuff cos you simply don't have the skills to use most of my ships. Regarding the Titan nerf : If it gets to that, I think would be fair for us to have the skill points back to reallocate them into something useful and the isk spent on the titans as well ( market price not production price ).
You lost the first Nyx because you're an idiot. You lost the other Nyx because you're an idiot who never realized that a triage carrier is a cheaper and more effective way to save a supercapital that is being attacked. You're an eBay moron - fyi, i can fly literally any ship you own, this is not my only character ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Khadmos
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company Fatal Ascension
34
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:41:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're not happy with...... LOL You just started so very wrong ! You are not happy ?! ?!? You are supposed to be happy only if WE are happy ! Because we pay you, not the other way around ! Jesus, fire this guy, fast ! CCP Greyscale, no disrespect but please, go find a job where you could be useful.
You are so right. They should give every player a titan, that would make us all happy. Stupid CCP, has no idea how to make a game and keep player interest. |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:43:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:
So Titans can't hit MWD drakes with the signature of carriers flying in a ball (orbiting an anchor) that is keeping range when their transversal hits zero, because geometry failed me, but your enlightening post has cleared it all up.
Thanks!
If your range from your target is maintained throughout your orbit of the anchor, your trans never hits 0.
i don't think you'll be able to get through to this one
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Machine Delta
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:43:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Weaselior wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Promiscuous Female wrote: Thats nice, why would they ever be somewhere to get bubbled? Theres literally no need to, they come in, sit in staging tower, then cynoing in their own supers to do any heavy lifting in the system. But hey, at least you had 200 bombers. so you drop on the supercaps suddenly, the 1200 guys have to leave the pos and you can then bubble them i hope this helped you in your quest to become average at eve online What am i dropping on them with, I can only field 200 guys and we've already had another goon suggest all 200 guys should be in bombers to hope to kill the 1200 man sub cap fleet? I'm ok with admitting EVE is strictly about numbers now, it seems to be the CFC that has a problem with admitting thats what they want (and have achieved)
So you're saying a fleet of subcaps can't drop on a group of supercaps?
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GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba Northern Coalition.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:43:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Not that I don't adore all these tears, but isn't this a little heavy-handed? I would have preferred to see a small tracking nerf (so tracking titans can't blap hictors) and the elimination of combat-refitting rather than a straight up "titans are now as horrible as dreads" hell-nerf.
I mean seriously, dropping in tracking titans and then refitting on the fly to a 50m ehp tank when you get primaried is pretty ********, but so are Titans that can't hit speed-tanking carriers and take fifteen minutes to lock a POS.
I also don't see "minor tracking nerf plus removal of in-fight re-fitting" on your list of "things we considered but opted not to do," so maybe you'd like to consider it now?
Alternatively, since Titans are now just dreads that move around, let them dock so their pilots can do things other than shoot structures on occasion.
I remember quoting Ganthrithor in the thread where they announced supercarrier changes and he was one of the few voices of reason and not the black-and-white crowd thats yelling "Burn the witch". Well here we go again quoting him again cos CCP should listen to him.
Changes to titans ? Ofc, but do it in proper way (preferably with drastic sov change mechanics).
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:44:00 -
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guys guys
the transversal never hits absolute 0
what is an asymptotic function and what is an approximation |

Enochia Starr
DarK IntenTionZ Stop Exploding You Cowards
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:44:00 -
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If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday. |

Rer Eirikr
Stargazer Exploration Company Transmission Lost
75
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:44:00 -
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Acwron wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Hi everyone,
We're not happy with...... LOL You just started so very wrong ! You are not happy ?! ?!? You are supposed to be happy only if WE are happy ! Because we pay you, not the other way around ! Jesus, fire this guy, fast ! CCP Greyscale, no disrespect but please, go find a job where you could be useful.
Does me good to see Vera Cruz hasn't changed one bit. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2652
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:45:00 -
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Enochia Starr wrote:If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday.
Stay in highsec "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:46:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote: Ok, so geometry is hard. But when you orbit your anchor, there are at least two points in your orbit where your transversal is ZERO and you will be hit. And yeah, your current drake doctorine is a perma-MWD drake. Unless it changed this week.
1 thing. If you orbit in a circle that maintains distance from your target that doesn't happen. Oh, god. Go back to school. Yes, it does. TWICE in every rotation. Draw a line from your target through your anchor. Now draw a circle around your anchor. See the circle bisected by the line. TWICE. Rotate the circle 90 degrees on the z axis so the line no longer intersects the circle. Remember, 3 dimensions. Also the 0 trans points should be close to the points farthest from where the line intersects the circle even if you do orbit in this direction. The points where the line intersects are where your trans is HIGHEST.
This thread moves so fast! I did make a handy picture for you though!
http://i.imgur.com/YGJa6.jpg |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
439
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:47:00 -
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Machine Delta wrote:
So you're saying a fleet of subcaps can't drop on a group of 1200 subcaps?
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
463
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:48:00 -
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as a side bonus this'll also kill the 'ratting titan' trend that has been shitting up the south for some time |

EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
330
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:49:00 -
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Enochia Starr wrote:If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday.
lol |

Uggs386
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
2
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:49:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Uggs386 wrote:Ok so now that you have "balanced" titans, can you start working on scale issues in eve.
For example one possible idea: The larger the fleet the more difficult it is to organize and control the fleet.
I feel like one of the reasons huge blobs are so powerful atm is because you only need 1 person for every 250 players who actually know how to play eve. So you can mass recruit a bunch of people who know basic eve mechanics and go own zone everything because you have a few dudes who actually know how to pvp.
So maybe change up the fleet interface controls. Make it so fleet commanders can no longer fleet warp, regroup, broadcast targets etc. Make it so that only wing commanders and squad commanders can execute those orders. This would force 5 people per a fleet of 250 actually have to know how to pvp. Anyways just am idea on how to improve the game. You know I suggested locking speed penalties as more and more ships lock/start locking in order to simulate a LoS mechanic so smaller groups can actually do something against blobs like, two years ago. It would be a game changed for sure and the mindless blob would have to actually think and go after several targets at once instead of the 500 shoot the same guy. Pretty sure all null power blocks wanted nothing to do with it. My question to you and anyone else: What alliances would do well in this situation and which ones would flounder?
Tbh I don't think any sov holding 0.0 alliances would do well. This includes PL even though we don't hold sov we are diluted much like those who live in 0.0. I think the ones who would do best would be smaller low sec/npc 0.0 alliances. Possibly even wh alliances, I haven't come into contact with too many wh people so don't know for sure. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1838
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:50:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:What am i dropping on them with, I can only field 200 guys
You might have to open your recruitment beyond "anybody with a supercap". The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Enochia Starr
DarK IntenTionZ Stop Exploding You Cowards
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:50:00 -
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Andski wrote:Enochia Starr wrote:If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday. Stay in highsec
LOL, look at my corp history? And I own a titan so really this doesn't effect you at all, which you probably don't even have a titan?
"oh i got killed by an avatar in my maelstrom oh noo, NERF TITANS!!!"
Only way to really counter maelstroms was the titans, good bye nullsec warfare. |

Koby Botick
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:51:00 -
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GreGh Rakrot wrote: Changes to titans ? Ofc, but do it in proper way (preferably with drastic sov change mechanics).
If you actually read the OP from Greyscale you will find that he said that they want to do a big overhaul, but they can't do it now.
If you read between the lines, you can read that they have to step in now with a quick fix, because abuse of tracking titans has become too widespread and can no longer be ignored.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
439
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:52:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:What am i dropping on them with, I can only field 200 guys
You might have to open your recruitment beyond "anybody with a supercap".
Like I've been saying, this will be the "Numbers are all that matter" patch
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Akelorian
FinFleet Raiden.
9
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:52:00 -
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Koby Botick wrote:GreGh Rakrot wrote: Changes to titans ? Ofc, but do it in proper way (preferably with drastic sov change mechanics).
If you actually read the OP from Greyscale you will find that he said that they want to do a big overhaul, but they can't do it now. If you read between the lines, you can read that they have to step in now with a quick fix, because abuse of tracking titans has become too widespread and can no longer be ignored.
Then I expect them to step in now with a quick fix for alpha maelstroms :) and a quick fix for sov mechanics |

Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:53:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Weaselior wrote:
Thats nice, why would they ever be somewhere to get bubbled?
Theres literally no need to, they come in, sit in staging tower, then cynoing in their own supers to do any heavy lifting in the system.
But hey, at least you had 200 bombers.
so you drop on the supercaps suddenly, the 1200 guys have to leave the pos and you can then bubble them i hope this helped you in your quest to become average at eve online
What am i dropping on them with, I can only field 200 guys and we've already had another goon suggest all 200 guys should be in bombers to hope to kill the 1200 man sub cap fleet?
I'm ok with admitting EVE is strictly about numbers now, it seems to be the CFC that has a problem with admitting thats what they want (and have achieved) [/quote] Your whole reality is based around the fantasy that PL is a bunch of space spartans. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2654
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:53:00 -
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Enochia Starr wrote:Andski wrote:Enochia Starr wrote:If you remove tracking, bring back AOE Doomsday. Stay in highsec LOL, look at my corp history? And I own a titan so really this doesn't effect you at all, which you probably don't even have a titan? "oh i got killed by an avatar in my maelstrom oh noo, NERF TITANS!!!" Only way to really counter maelstroms was the titans, good bye nullsec warfare.
no intelligent, rational person would look at EvE and say that AoE doomsdays are needed again
how would you propose that cynojammers be destroyed? hmm?
have fun getting multiple doomsdayed "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Machine Delta
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:53:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Machine Delta wrote:
So you're saying a fleet of subcaps can't drop on a group of 1200 subcaps?
Dodging the question. I see how it is. Can't come up with a response so you make a non-answer. Keep stayin mad Grath. |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:53:00 -
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Ganthrithor wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote: Ok, so geometry is hard. But when you orbit your anchor, there are at least two points in your orbit where your transversal is ZERO and you will be hit. And yeah, your current drake doctorine is a perma-MWD drake. Unless it changed this week.
1 thing. If you orbit in a circle that maintains distance from your target that doesn't happen. Oh, god. Go back to school. Yes, it does. TWICE in every rotation. Draw a line from your target through your anchor. Now draw a circle around your anchor. See the circle bisected by the line. TWICE. Rotate the circle 90 degrees on the z axis so the line no longer intersects the circle. Remember, 3 dimensions. Also the 0 trans points should be close to the points farthest from where the line intersects the circle even if you do orbit in this direction. The points where the line intersects are where your trans is HIGHEST. This thread moves so fast! I did make a handy picture for you though! http://i.imgur.com/YGJa6.jpg Truly amazing. |

Pharon Reichter
FinFleet Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:54:00 -
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I'm not going to get into an argument weather titans need fixing or not. All i'm gonna say is that anyone with half brain will notice that this move is a rushed out nerf that breaks more than it fixes.
This isnt something that really needs urgent attention but rather careful thought. Oh wait yes there IS a group of people that is crying about it ;) And loud. But getting from an extreme ( not listening to comunity) to the other - ( listening mindless to what some vocal group is crying ) is not the way to go. As people get from pube status to maturity they learn that best way to deal with things is to set them right from the first time.
In the last couple of years there have been several changes to supercaps and none was - as it's shown now - very well thought. This isn't going to fix anything neither in the short term nor in the long term. It will only make a certain group of people happy. CCP knows that and they have even admitted it. So yeah well have fun with it ;)
That being said and knowing this will never happen i also propose something else along with this change -
make only capitals being able to shot structures ;) make subcaps only be able to shoot pos mods. This will bring back the rock/paper/scissors in this game since.
- dreads will be back in action - supercaps/titans will be usefull - subcaps will have the role of support fleet and/or skirmish/harassment
none of the single composition fleets will be able to accomplish something alone , you will have noob players happy and vets happy. true smaller alliances aren't really going to be able to compete ... but let's be honest are they now ? |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
319
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:54:00 -
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mid-long term, expect supercaps to be moved back to support roles where they belong rather than direct front-line combat.
This is a hotfix. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 |

Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:55:00 -
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hey ccp
you should let supercaps dock
and then implement a twitter feed that announces when supercaps get reprocessed |

Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:57:00 -
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Pharon Reichter wrote: make subcaps only be able to shoot pos mods
This sounds pretty fun. I love fleet fights vs anchored opponents. |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
443
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:57:00 -
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Machine Delta wrote:
Dodging the question. I see how it is.
Hey, your alliance ignores whole classes of ship, I can ignore your question that ignores what I've said if i want to.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1840
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:57:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:What am i dropping on them with, I can only field 200 guys
You might have to open your recruitment beyond "anybody with a supercap". Like I've been saying, this will be the "Numbers are all that matter" patch
It's not but because you refuse to consider any other solution we're trying to help out.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Koby Botick
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:58:00 -
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Akelorian wrote:Then I expect them to step in now with a quick fix for alpha maelstroms :) and a quick fix for sov mechanics, and base the fix on maelstroms with officer mods that titans don't use :)
I am sure if alpha maelstroms are capable of doing stuff they are not intended to, they will receive treatment. Given CCPs average response time that would be somewhere between May and July. In 2014.
But why not, I always wanted to fly Amarr ships you know. They still look the best. |
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