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Veinnail
FinFleet Raiden.
5
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:23:00 -
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dearest CCP.
it is quite obvious over the past years that you've developed quite the gap in your capital ship trees. we need new capital ship classes. fill the void between dread-titan. I personally agree that titans are imbalanced, this is quite the heavy handed correction though.
make XXL turrets. and these XXL turrets will have the anti-capital attributes that you require without affecting the functionality of dreads. this will leave you plenty of breathing room for expansion in the capital ship trees, and even maybe the introduction of the XL control tower. |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:23:00 -
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Sade Onyx wrote:Shouldnt Titans be renamed to Ultra-capitals? or Mega Capitals
The Word 'titan' isnt really an accurate description of what they are.
They should be renamed to space coffins because CCP just made sure that any good PVP alliance will die in them regardless because some goons whined. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
965
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:24:00 -
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Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:Vile rat wrote: Right there in the beginning of Greyscales post he mentions this is a stopgap cause it is too disruptive and not what they intended at all. They will be redesigning the hull to actually be good at its stated role instead of leaving it broken so it can do everything.
It must be broken completely before it can be fixed. You heard it hear first folks. Straight from the Goon Illuminati's mouth.
Look at the cute lil' newbie corp alt. Just wanna pat your head son. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:25:00 -
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Le Cardinal wrote:Cut the crap will you. This adjustment is a shortterm solution to stagger the whining of all the goons whom are unable to think outside the Alphadoctrine box. PL and RDN have given them easy solutions on how to kill titans. And yet they keep throwing drakes and maelstroms at the titans. So they go to devs and ask for help. And how surprising is it that CCP yet again does a half-assed hotifx that gimps the titans ability to work properly against anything. By the time you manage to clean your brown nose, goons will infact reach many of their objectives through sheer numbers. Nothing else will matter.
And again you prove that your "humble" attitude last year is worth nothing to those whom can actually fly supercaps as long as the voices from those who cant be arsed to get one is heard. RDN does not give out supercaps to its members. Losses are reimbursed however.
So basically you are shafting the people who has been working their arses off to achieve these ships. Yes im a bit pissed. Not because this patch affect us quite much, but because devs let goons control their game.
it's not like this change should come at a surprise
/maybe/ basing your entire alliance around the concept of dogpiling all the high-skillpoint bittervets you can hoover up and ushering them into titans wasn't the most optimal plan
also - your alliance doesn't get its members into titans? yet you criticize GSF for not doing the same, while we heavily subsidize members who buy them? tell me all about how it's our tech income that gets RMTed. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:25:00 -
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Veinnail wrote:dearest CCP.
it is quite obvious over the past years that you've developed quite the gap in your capital ship trees. we need new capital ship classes. fill the void between dread-titan. I personally agree that titans are imbalanced, this is quite the heavy handed correction though.
make XXL turrets. and these XXL turrets will have the anti-capital attributes that you require without affecting the functionality of dreads. this will leave you plenty of breathing room for expansion in the capital ship trees, and even maybe the introduction of the XL control tower.
I have been giving a lot of thought to the EVE ONLINE game mechanics and I agree 100% with this man. There should be a T2 titan class as well that is able to fit even larger turrets. It also seems like there should be a titan equivalent carrier that fields BS ship sized drones. Also a mining titan. |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
15
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:26:00 -
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This is bullsh!t and you all know it. A titan should be able to track all ships. It's biggest, therefore it has to be best.
-- Sincerely, Death Star. |

GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:26:00 -
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The amount of neutral PL/Raiden alts in this thread, desperately clinging to the entitled notion that they should be allowed to fly around in unkillable ships because they paid a little more isk, is amazing. When every other ship in the game can be killed by subcaps, but you drop titans and suddenly subcaps are meaningless. If 1600 people show up to take someone's space, and they can only field 200 guys, then THEY DO NOT DESERVE THAT SPACE. This is how the world works. You should not magically be allowed to pick space and control it because you can stick 50 guys into a super ship, and stand it up to 1600 people. |

Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
41
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:27:00 -
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just came to check if andski was still sperging
exciting life you lead br0 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:27:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:This is bullsh!t and you all know it. A titan should be able to track all ships. It's biggest, therefore it has to be best.
-- Sincerely, Death Star.
nope
sincerely, me "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5526
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:28:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:Based on simple geometry, at some point in your orbit of the anchor you will have a transversal of ZERO (or close enough to call it zero) and the signature radius of a carrier. GǪwhich can be avoided with a bit more involved flying. The situation you describe has next to nothing to do with the presence of an MWD, and turning an MWD on does not simply make a target as easy to hit as a carrier. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Tobruk
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:28:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:Tobruk wrote:
Tell me about Being Objective CCP Grayscale you tool.
I can wait for your next announcement showing us all the brilliantly thought out counter to 800 maelstroms.
A calculator. So you can count the numbers of our enemies and realize this is a red herring since they bring as many on the field as we do.
maybe you should grab one and calculate how many dreads it takes to kill our titans and how long that would take given your current tech income.
but no you should just ignore the best and most viable counter to titans then expect CCP Sound-wave, and CCP Screegs to slobber your rod. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2869
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:28:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:just came to check if andski was still sperging
exciting life you lead br0
watching your blues melt down in this thread has made my day ;p
keep spergin ;p "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:29:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:Vile rat wrote: Right there in the beginning of Greyscales post he mentions this is a stopgap cause it is too disruptive and not what they intended at all. They will be redesigning the hull to actually be good at its stated role instead of leaving it broken so it can do everything.
It must be broken completely before it can be fixed. You heard it hear first folks. Straight from the Goon Illuminati's mouth. Look at the cute lil' newbie corp alt. Just wanna pat your head son.
Just because I never paid 10 dollars to post in a forum in order to fly internet spaceships doesn't make me less of a subscriber to Eve. I don't need to join a corp in order to enjoy this game. I have seen your dumb tattoo so you have no grounds making fun of me. |

Tobruk
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:29:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:The amount of neutral PL/Raiden alts in this thread, desperately clinging to the entitled notion that they should be allowed to fly around in unkillable ships because they paid a little more isk, is amazing. When every other ship in the game can be killed by subcaps, but you drop titans and suddenly subcaps are meaningless. If 1600 people show up to take someone's space, and they can only field 200 guys, then THEY DO NOT DESERVE THAT SPACE. This is how the world works. You should not magically be allowed to pick space and control it because you can stick 50 guys into a super ship, and stand it up to 1600 people.
we should just get rid of all spaceship classes and have pods. whoever brings more wins. |

BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
23
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:29:00 -
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Tobruk wrote:Vile rat wrote:Tobruk wrote:
Tell me about Being Objective CCP Grayscale you tool.
I can wait for your next announcement showing us all the brilliantly thought out counter to 800 maelstroms.
A calculator. So you can count the numbers of our enemies and realize this is a red herring since they bring as many on the field as we do. maybe you should grab one and calculate how many dreads it takes to kill our titans and how long that would take given your current tech income. but no you should just ignore the best and most viable counter to titans then expect CCP Sound-wave, and CCP Screegs to slobber your rod.
OOoo you sound mad. |

Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
965
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:30:00 -
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Tobruk wrote:
maybe you should grab one and calculate how many dreads it takes to kill our titans and how long that would take given your current tech income.
Are you really going to make me detail the many holes in this plan? Is this something you're seriously suggesting or are you just trolling me?
No way, you gotta just be trolling me. |

Flores Negras
The Ankou Raiden.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:30:00 -
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So I should start out by saying I'm not a titan pilot, though it has always been my wish to one day get into a super and then a titan. With that being said, it is called a "Super Carrier" and as CCP Grayscale mentioned earlier refuting another post, CARRIERS are supposed to be the ones that kill the battleships not the dreads, supers or titans. If you look at the name "Super Carrier" It has carrier in it, and means that they should be able to do both intended purposes for both a carrier and a super, which is kill battleships and destroy structures.
After the last Super Carrier Nerf, supers became no more than giant logistics and structure grinders that people had wasted millions of SP and months of training into Drone skills to fly properly, but it was an accepted change as now supers are used as the logistics for the Titans who can kill alpha fleets that would otherwise be to strong. Now Super carriers are one role either grind structures or kill battleships (ineffectively) and titans will have one role to grind structures. Super carriers need a larger drone bay if they are going to have to take on both roles, which previously the Titans could have played, but that was also done away with by the same CSMs because they were losing BCs to supers. Which is stupid and a waste of SP and isk for Titan and Super pilots as they trained Guns/Drones and wasted isk on those skill books.
With the last nerf all supers saw new roles as they could no longer be fielded alone and they still cant be. Without a support fleet a super/titan fleet alone can not live as a few well piloted dictors can keep them locked down for any length of time and have reinforcements brought in, so it is the fact people still need a support fleet and that's why the changes to Super Carriers were made.
If you are going to take an absolute bat to all Supers/Titans and continue in doing so, some sort of compensation should be given to those who fly them as of now, and in the future. In addition prices should be lowered and build time as well for both titans and supers to make them a more viable weapon for all alliances/corporations which will in turn result in more being fielded, more mixed fights (Capitals and Sub caps), and will result in more destruction of all types of ships. If a Dread is to kill structures and costs 2b, and a Super is to kill dreads and Capitals should be about 5b, and a Titan to kill Capitals and Structures is about a combination of the two, but we'll say 10-15b... In terms of prices a frigate costs 200k > Cruiser 3m > BC 35m > BS 155m > Carrier 1.2b > Dread 2b > Super 20b > Titan 105b For the prices Supers/Titans have the same roles as Carrier/Dread so they should be MUCH closer in price.
Lastly a point about this thread is Goons you keep crapping in it, and have yet to make a valid point besides posting a few killboards of you getting owned because you wouldn't field your capitals or supers. The ONLY CSMs that have posted in this thread have also been Goons and 90% of people in this thread FOR the changes are goons as well. The same CSMs that changed Supers to be useless against sup caps (when carriers should be useful according to CCP Grayscale) are also the same ones now changing titans, for the same reason, they lose. |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
15
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:32:00 -
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Andski wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote:This is bullsh!t and you all know it. A titan should be able to track all ships. It's biggest, therefore it has to be best.
-- Sincerely, Death Star. nope sincerely, me
Someone did not get the joke? :) |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
287
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:33:00 -
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As a general note an adjustment that benefits a single entity over others isn't probably a "balancing" adjustment at all.
Why only Goonswarm members are gloating happy about this change, and everyone else in null seems to be butthurt as hell?
Maybe needs some more thinking, imo, just by looking at the reactions.
Quote:If 1600 people show up to take someone's space, and they can only field 200 guys, then THEY DO NOT DESERVE THAT SPACE. This is how the world works. You should not magically be allowed to pick space and control it because you can stick 50 guys into a super ship, and stand it up to 1600 people.
Why should 1600 be the magic win button?
It would be cool to play a game where the better pilots win, you know, a bit like it is in small gang combat.
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Valearx
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:33:00 -
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Tobruk wrote:
we should just get rid of all spaceship classes and have pods. whoever brings more wins.
Please continue, your high-pitched squeals of indignation are ******* musical. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:34:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Andski wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote:This is bullsh!t and you all know it. A titan should be able to track all ships. It's biggest, therefore it has to be best.
-- Sincerely, Death Star. nope sincerely, me Someone did not get the joke? :)
i have a hangover so yeah i kinda missed it "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
444
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:34:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:
Realtalk:
Every single titan nerf has been to reduce their effectiveness towards subcaps. Titans on paper are actually not designed to hit subcaps for ****, it's only when you get a bunch that it's nearly impossible to maintain transversal from them all. **** they have dread guns on them and their drones were taken away, what about these things suggest they were designed as anti subcap platforms? I just don't understand this reasoning. Sure you've been taking advantage of their inability to balance these things vs subcaps properly but being an anti blob weapon clearly wasn't their intent by design and now we have them on record confirming this is the case.
They were originally designed as the ultimate anti-blob weapon. Dont even try that god damn Goon proaganda with me you god damn useless piece of sh*t.
Current Titan and supercarrier capabilities against subcaps have existed since Dominion. They werent important enough to nerf even when playing an instrumental role in toppling the Northern Coalition, a conglomerate of tens of thousands of players. But it became top priority once the Goons themselves were under threat. So in two passes, first back in december and now in April they get nerfed into oblivion. Wonder why? Oh scratch that. I dont really wonder why. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5526
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:34:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Someone did not get the joke? :) Granted, it would be nice of capital ships had thermal exhaust vents, but they've talked about adding that for longer than they've talked about WiS, so good luckGǪ 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

CynoNet Two
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
497
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:35:00 -
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Roime wrote:
Why should 1600 be the magic win button?
It would be cool to play a game where the better pilots win, you know, a bit like it is in small gang combat.
Someone has never fought IRC |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:35:00 -
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Roime wrote:As a general note an adjustment that benefits a single entity over others isn't probably a "balancing" adjustment at all. Why only Goonswarm members are gloating happy about this change, and everyone else in null seems to be butthurt as hell? Maybe needs some more thinking, imo, just by looking at the reactions. Quote:If 1600 people show up to take someone's space, and they can only field 200 guys, then THEY DO NOT DESERVE THAT SPACE. This is how the world works. You should not magically be allowed to pick space and control it because you can stick 50 guys into a super ship, and stand it up to 1600 people. Why should 1600 be the magic win button? It would be cool to play a game where the better pilots win, you know, a bit like it is in small gang combat.
I'd say it's more indicative of the current state of nullsec - it's dominated by three powerblocs. Two of them, the CFC and Awagon, despise tracking titans. The other loves them. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:35:00 -
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Valearx wrote:Tobruk wrote:
we should just get rid of all spaceship classes and have pods. whoever brings more wins.
Please continue, your high-pitched squeals of indignation are ******* musical.
Goons have no class. They are like kindergarteners that get a chance to be cruel to other nicer little kids just because the other kid peed himself by accident in front of the class. |

Tobruk
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
13
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:36:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:Tobruk wrote:
maybe you should grab one and calculate how many dreads it takes to kill our titans and how long that would take given your current tech income.
Are you really going to make me detail the many holes in this plan? Is this something you're seriously suggesting or are you just trolling me? No way, you gotta just be trolling me.
im not trolling Vile rat.
you made a choice to invest your income and time in a specific fleet doctrine, one that vee invented to counter armor hacs and abandons. It was the wrong choice.
Had you been able to field 300 or more dreads there is no FC in his right mind who would have opposed you with titans. Those same dreads can work unsieged like titans and do the same volly damage at the same range as maelstroms.
but this discussion is an academic one as CCP is playing favorites, your CEO has said as much. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2870
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:36:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:They were originally designed as the ultimate anti-blob weapon. Dont even try that god damn Goon proaganda with me you god damn useless piece of sh*t.
Current Titan and supercarrier capabilities against subcaps have existed since Dominion. They werent important enough to nerf even when playing an instrumental role in toppling the Northern Coalition, a conglomerate of tens of thousands of players. But it became top priority once the Goons themselves were under threat. So in two passes, first back in december and now in April they get nerfed into oblivion. Wonder why? Oh scratch that. I dont really wonder why.
don't talk down to your betters, please.
also why do you think the ability to doomsday through a cyno was removed? good god "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:36:00 -
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Andski wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:Dear very important space ship personality,
the main purpose of AE DD was obviously to kill subcaps in large numbers. The main purpose of focused DD was clearly to be able to kill every ship with one shot (including subcaps).
So as you can see the idea that supercaps should be a pure anti-capital weapon is rather new.
However, I do like that this was changed and do think that supercaps still need balancing. Making them useless is not the solution though.
Yes they should revert titans to the way they were originally added, AoE doomsdays coming through a kestrel cyno sad lil pubbie
You can read reight? Made it bold for you...
Andski wrote:[quote=John Maynard Keynes] However, I do like that this was changed and do think that supercaps still need balancing. Making them useless is not the solution though.
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BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
23
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Posted - 2012.03.14 14:36:00 -
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Roime wrote:As a general note an adjustment that benefits a single entity over others isn't probably a "balancing" adjustment at all. Why only Goonswarm members are gloating happy about this change, and everyone else in null seems to be butthurt as hell? Maybe needs some more thinking, imo, just by looking at the reactions. Quote:If 1600 people show up to take someone's space, and they can only field 200 guys, then THEY DO NOT DESERVE THAT SPACE. This is how the world works. You should not magically be allowed to pick space and control it because you can stick 50 guys into a super ship, and stand it up to 1600 people. Why should 1600 be the magic win button? It would be cool to play a game where the better pilots win, you know, a bit like it is in small gang combat.
If you want small gang combat go get it!! No one is stopping you, there is plenty of it out there.But dont go thinking you are going to go take and hold entire regions of space without building a coalition or having a large alliance,it.just isnt going to happen.Live with it.
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