yes let's shelve hictors and require capitals to tackle titans

"hmm how do i shake off this <3m ehp tackler"

I will be turning off my account and personally using Greyscale as a replacement for C * nt.

again how do you propose that 50 titans shake off 10 "juggers" that nobody will fly because ahaha stupid gimmicks

try to answer that with less than 20 ellipses in one sentence

say i happen to like ellipses so meh get used to it...

as for how would 50 titans shake these things off is... if all you brought is 50 titans and no support you deserve to go down in a blaze of glory...

yeah i also expect the game mechanics to be changed to add a diminishing returns for stacked applied damage and remote repair...
so alpha fleets wont be able to stack 400 maels alpha and be more effective then 40 maels alpha...

man the ellipses must really irk you

as for you ad hominem/ straw man argument about my alleged play style and/or history... i have only one word to say to you! FREGE!

Fun Fact:

It took almost a week for the anomaly nerf thread to get to page 100
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=1

This one managed it in only two days.

the answer you're looking for is "they'd get doomsdayed"

i remember before titans got boosted you had fights with like 400 dreads... i think if you came with 300 dreads and 100 juggers you could take on the titan blob....
in the first min 50 ships die!
but then the juggers nuet the hell out of the sc's and titans and then no more rr or ddd's....
especially if you got (t3bc like ships that are the gap between bs's and cap ships that are the size of freighters, so they can go threw gates) that use capital weapons...

Its clear to me Titan blobs are hated,

and so is Goon Subcap blobs

This leaves 1 common place, everyone hates some sort of blob

My proposition: Nerf blobs, make it where no more then 20 people can aggress in 1 system at a time.
Naturally you'll be able to lower structures HP too. [:twisted

If you really want to make it even more fool proof and easier to program, make it where no more then 20 peopl
can undock from a station in any 1 system.


also I am making an offer to purchase all titans owned by Raiden for an equal trade of a fully fitted Hurricane per titan
Since it's proven Goons can be killed by Hurricanes price on them has sky rocketed, I can only hold my offer in place 5minutes at a time

proof the caek is not a lie: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12743537

OFFER IS STILL VALID < i will edit this as I can still afford to purchase the expensive sky rocketing prices of Hurricanes.

Combat capitals are stupid. Remove Titans and Supercarriers from the game and the Dread would actually become pretty balanced again. Its a ship with a specific, necessary role that has to commit to a fight and is vulnerable if not protected. Adding a combat capital is a terrible idea much like the original field command ships being better HACs was a terrible idea. It just creates a new baseline for combat ship and panders to the people who think their 05 regdate should give them in game advantage.

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I'm almost at a loss of words here. Almost, therefore I am going to speak my mind.

So now capitals are basically structure grinding machines and you only deploy them if you have something to grind down or if someone else is grinding stuff down and you catch someone else grinding down something. This is not a solution, this is a plaster for a symptom. There is now ZERO reason to deploy supercapitals except to grind down a structure. Do you really want structure grinding to become the motivator for people to build and create supercapitals in EVE? I mean, I don't believe you have thought at all about the consequences of these changes.

EVE is now effectively sectioned off into two tier combat systems. Capital combat and sub-capital combat. The difference is, capitals cannot touch sub-capitals, but sub-capitals can, in the numbers that are brought at the moment, almost 1-3 volley capitals. The titans were a workaround for that because numbers were no longer the only deciding factor, your playing time, your assets and your skillpoints actually played a role. Now we are going back to a time again where the only effective tool, a VERY limited tool might I add, against blobbing is a damn stealth bomber. No more force projection by taking advantage of the many years you have spent in the game and the money you have pooled into a titan, you are better off selling off said titan and joining the nearest Maelstrom fleet.

What am I meant to aspire for in EVE in terms of combat? What is my incentive for actually training all these skills. To fly the next flavour of the month subcapital ship?

EVE is now a numbers game when there is a large effort to remove counters for large fleets. If this is the direction we're going, we're going to see a bipolar political landscape because being a small alliance, you can now only exist if you are a part of the inevitable two powerblocks that will come to dominate EVE. If you can't match the numbers, too bad... join or die.

Let's get a rethink of the roles of supercapitals and not a temporary plaster that will reduce supercapitals to nothing but ihub and station grinders.

:words:

No.

Suggestions on how to accomplish that were posted by the players. Neither CCP nor the CSM decided to pick up on it. There may have been a few dials that got turned a few degrees, but base dreadnought mechanics are still Red Moon Rising mechanics, designed around 3-5 dreadnoughts sieging a POS with invulnerable guns and near infinite tracking.

Supercapitals were made to be capital killers. But there are no regular combat capitals.
Carriers are support ships, dreads are static siege tools, rorquals are rorquals. None of them is an actual combat capital designed around ship vs ship combat.
Thus an old, limping wolf was promoted badass in a valley of sheeps.

We do not need supercapitals, capable of shifting planetary tides, helpless against 5 rifters.

I dont care how many titans pilot are in game, but i dont wasting my time 3+ month for perfect titan and a lot time to make isk to buy skill and titan and now ????? we all pay to play this game not only GOONS or MItani
CCP must listen all players not only 5-6k

Fun Fact:

It took almost a week for the anomaly nerf thread to get to page 100
http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487231&page=1

This one managed it in only two days.

When TEST grows up....

Titans were balanced just fine before this awful change. What is their combat use over a supercarrier, now?