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Gut Punch
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.05 02:09:00 -
[1621]
Edited by: Gut Punch on 05/08/2008 02:14:43
Against.
These is taking away the sandbox. Train skills, think tactically, find friends, or quit.
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Dr NooBLeT
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Posted - 2008.08.05 02:10:00 -
[1622]
 Originally by: AdmiralFreeman
Edited by: AdmiralFreeman on 04/08/2008 13:28:34
Edited by: AdmiralFreeman on 04/08/2008 12:59:10
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Was raised in today's CSM meeting - discussion ensued - chatlog is Vote on nano-nerf statement at 16:45
Feel free to have a read about what was said.
Very dissapointed in the CSM !!!! You are considering your own opinions on the subject over the input generated by the Pro-Con the vote/poll. I tought your mission was to voice the feeling of the community not your own??? AGAINST / PRO NERF = 2/1 I think its clear !!!
You seem to think that we all just vote pro-con without trying it out on sisi. Well you are wrong, I think there are plenty of posts with concrete evidence that this nerf is bad, and will eliminate a certain type of warfare as it is no longer a viable option with the proposed changes.
CCP seems to think that all Nano pilots use HG snakes and use T2 poly's on. I think they can find out, if they wanted to, on how many pilots acutally use this type's of mods and implants in actual combat. But I'm convinced it will be a minorty. The typical nano pilot is using T1 poly's, T2 nano's and overdrives, and maybe a low cost speed mod implant. This is what should be looked into that the typical setup by most nano pilots remains a viable option. Not nerf everything that the ridicilous stuff that most can't offord remains a half baked solution.
Go do your job CSM !!!! The vote tells you exactly what you should do !!!!
this
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Noluck Ned
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.05 02:25:00 -
[1623]
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To mare
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Posted - 2008.08.05 06:09:00 -
[1624]
nanoships are fine
carebear need a nerf
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Taylor Bridges
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Posted - 2008.08.05 08:01:00 -
[1625]
Against.
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Venger X
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:17:00 -
[1626]
AGAINST
WTF CCP is starting to look like Microsoft what we want we do F*** the members
you can call the next patch EVE - VISTA then we get the point :P
at least make ad something for ships that NEED speed
like uhhhh the Vagabond it will suck after this patch FOR LIVE but thatĘs what i think
was a EVE fan but now thinking of going for
Jumpgate - evolution
BLACK PROPHECY
For a space mmo
VENGER :The force of EVIL |
Spy Eye
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:32:00 -
[1627]
Save the Vaga!
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Dante Karaal
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.08.05 12:07:00 -
[1628]
/signed
Changes as on SiSi are a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Why to combat 'ludicrous speed' must normal t2 fits be made redundant?
What you should do:
- reduce the effectiveness of snakes.
- put polycarbons in-line with the other astronautic rigs. ie worse than a t2 nanofibre, but still worth fitting.
- introduce the change to warp scramblers, making them shut down mwds.
- make webs signature radius dependant so that a battleship, or cruiser running mwd can be webbed 90% by a t2 web, but a frigate not running a mwd will be webbed by as little as 33-40%.
- boost the velocity and explosion velocity of precision missiles slightly.
What you should NOT do:
- change the current stats or balance of t1, named, t2 and faction speed mods and MWDs.
- introduce re-activation delay on MWDs, this encourages perma-MWD setups. Pulsing MWD is a valid and skillful tactic for maintaining range.
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squiddie
Yakuza Corp
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:29:00 -
[1629]
I'm against the announced nerf because it goes too far. For details read the feedback thread.
I would support a game balancing nerf of implants, polycarbs and gang bonuses. Perhaps a general speed limit of 12-15k to prevent the physics engine going crazy.
Vote against the nano nerf!
Don't forget to check the 'support' checkbox when replying.
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Red Thunder
Most Wanted INC
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:40:00 -
[1630]
a better solution http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=838894&page=1
Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines |
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goodnight
Sleeper Technology Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.05 15:28:00 -
[1631]
For Minmatar and diversity 
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Steyr Daghan
thx for all the fish
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2008.08.05 15:54:00 -
[1632]
I'm for the balancing of ludicrus speed, absolutely. That means "yes to the nerf" if you didn't get it.
All of you here are just whining because you'll get no more safe, free kills.
The proposed changes will bring a new life to pvp in eve. And it's way, way, way overdue.
I hope CCP won't cave to the whiners that can't adapt.
(No my pvp alt does not fly caldari)
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Milena Marich
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Posted - 2008.08.05 16:05:00 -
[1633]
Against!
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Great Guardian
H A V O C
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Posted - 2008.08.05 16:07:00 -
[1634]
Strongly against!!!
" I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah!
Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments.... will |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.08.05 16:18:00 -
[1635]
Originally by: AdmiralFreeman
Edited by: AdmiralFreeman on 04/08/2008 13:28:34
Edited by: AdmiralFreeman on 04/08/2008 12:59:10
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Was raised in today's CSM meeting - discussion ensued - chatlog is Vote on nano-nerf statement at 16:45
Feel free to have a read about what was said.
Very dissapointed in the CSM !!!! You are considering your own opinions on the subject over the input generated by the Pro-Con the vote/poll. I tought your mission was to voice the feeling of the community not your own??? AGAINST / PRO NERF = 2/1 I think its clear !!!
You seem to think that we all just vote pro-con without trying it out on sisi. Well you are wrong, I think there are plenty of posts with concrete evidence that this nerf is bad, and will eliminate a certain type of warfare as it is no longer a viable option with the proposed changes.
CCP seems to think that all Nano pilots use HG snakes and use T2 poly's on. I think they can find out, if they wanted to, on how many pilots acutally use this type's of mods and implants in actual combat. But I'm convinced it will be a minorty. The typical nano pilot is using T1 poly's, T2 nano's and overdrives, and maybe a low cost speed mod implant. This is what should be looked into that the typical setup by most nano pilots remains a viable option. Not nerf everything that the ridicilous stuff that most can't offord remains a half baked solution.
Go do your job CSM !!!! The vote tells you exactly what you should do !!!!
Well I've added the speed nerf Issue to the agenda again for the August 17th meeting and urged all the CSM delegates to make the effort to get onto SISI for the two intervening weeks so we can hopefully have a more useful discussion at the next meeting. Fingers crossed we get something more useful from the next one.
For the record: Jade, Omber Zombie, Ben Derider, Ank voted for a statement on the nano nerf last meeting. Bane Glorious, Darius Johnson, Inanna and Tusko Hopkins voted against. If you feel that any of the CSM delegates who would ordinarily be representing your interests on this issue have made a mistake then I'd advise you to evemail, convo, or otherwise engage them in discussion and let them know what you think.
Star Fraction | Dare to Dream!
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Somal Thunder
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Posted - 2008.08.05 16:42:00 -
[1636]
I really really like the nano nerf, but doing missions in my Raven is going to take a crapload of time now, because the BASE SPEEDS were lowered significantly. How bout adding more mass instead and making afterburners less viable to mass changes?
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kerbir
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Posted - 2008.08.05 17:19:00 -
[1637]
against
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Neo Merchant
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:27:00 -
[1638]
A G A I N S T
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Neo Trader
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:28:00 -
[1639]
Edited by: Neo Trader on 05/08/2008 20:27:57
A G A I N S T
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Neo Harald
The All-Seeing Eye
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:28:00 -
[1640]
A G A I N S T
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Neo Broker
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:30:00 -
[1641]
A G A I N S T
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IronGoldenEagle
NightHawk Phantom Fleet
The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:30:00 -
[1642]
Edited by: IronGoldenEagle on 05/08/2008 20:30:25
/signed
Against
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Neo Business
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:30:00 -
[1643]
A G A I N S T
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Neo Ultimate
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:31:00 -
[1644]
A G A I N S T
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Chencherra
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:50:00 -
[1645]
Originally by: Steyr Daghan
I'm for the balancing of ludicrus speed, absolutely. That means "yes to the nerf" if you didn't get it.
All of you here are just whining because you'll get no more safe, free kills.
The proposed changes will bring a new life to pvp in eve. And it's way, way, way overdue.
I hope CCP won't cave to the whiners that can't adapt.
(No my pvp alt does not fly caldari)
1. This thread is for voting against the nerf, if you a for the nerf go to the other thread
2. AFAIK you and a lot others were whining, that explains why CCP made these changes
3. Explain how the nerf will bring new life to pvp
4. CCP listened to whiners, like you, too long and now they are doing wrong just to satisfy all you caldari carebears, because your crappy fitted drakes and caracals die so fast, no matter if it is a nano or a tanked ship that kills you.
5. Quote:
(No my pvp alt does not fly caldari)
Ahahahahaha
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/against
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Originally by: Silence Duegood
Quote:
Nighthawk fitting:
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Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
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...what's with the Kinetic Hardeners, do you fly this ship?
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Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2008.08.05 22:00:00 -
[1646]
5.3kmmax for a stiletto?
4.3km for hyena?
3.6km vaga
3.4 for interdictors!?!?
sorry everything dies at these speeds
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Sirus Ade
Relinquo.
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Posted - 2008.08.06 00:39:00 -
[1647]
Not just a nano nerf, but a Gallente and Minmatar nerf. Ill conceived and badly implemented in its current state.
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Rmageddon
Fluffy Bunny Love
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Posted - 2008.08.06 01:03:00 -
[1648]
Edited by: Rmageddon on 06/08/2008 01:05:44
AGAINST
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Uncle Smokey
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Posted - 2008.08.06 01:04:00 -
[1649]
HELL NO!
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SkiLLzThaTKiLLz X
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.06 01:23:00 -
[1650]
Edited by: SkiLLzThaTKiLLz X on 06/08/2008 01:24:36
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