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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6021
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:53:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:That the argument came around again and you slobered all over it with your standard refrains proves it, little fish. Prove it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
600
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:That the argument came around again and you slobered all over it with your standard refrains proves it, little fish. Prove it.
You are now a tool, congrats on such a fine accomplishment. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6022
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:55:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote: You are now a tool, congrats on such a fine accomplishment. Prove it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
600
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote: You are now a tool, congrats on such a fine accomplishment. Prove it.
No thanks, you just did it for me. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:58:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:
But what THEY expect to do is sit AFK and fatten their filthy wallets while rules lawyers bawl it up to CCP to protect the poor innocent tykes from the big bad wolf.
again, you can safely mission afk, whys it such a HUGE EVE sin to mine AFK? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Paragon Renegade
Wyvern Operations
335
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Posted - 2012.04.12 01:59:00 -
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Titans cost 60 billion ISK
Titans proceed to ruin "endgame" nullsec regardless because people obtain the advantage at any cost The pie is a tautology |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6022
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:00:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:[still can't provide any argument] SoGǪ that argument you should be able to refer to, where is it? Why can't you actually provide it and prove something for a change?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
600
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:[still can't provide any argument] SoGǪ that argument you should be able to refer to, where is it? Why can't you actually provide it and prove something for a change?
Go look around page 17-19 if you're so invested. It's your ego at stake, not mine. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:06:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:You don't even need a super tank. Fit a 15-20k ehp hulk and mine beside the guy that fits his hulk with a civilian shield booster. Once he gets ganked, it's time to move.
ya you dont have to be the fastest
Just faster than the guy you trip
Wonder how much longer till ibtl since this thread's gone from the topic to individual fighting between the ppl IN the thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6024
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:18:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Go look around page 17-19 That wasn't so hard, now was it?
Ok, let's seeGǪ
Page 17: I live in a box; you don't acknowledge bringing up the GÇ£gank proofGÇ¥ straw man GÇö no actual argument. Page 18: nothing. Page 19: capabilities do not reflect costs and survivability only make up for the shortfall (responded to GÇö numbers don't support the notion of a shortfall); weakness to new players devalues ship (responded to GÇö intentional design decision); crimewatch 2.0 might change things (responded to GÇö nah).
So what argument am I ignoring? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
600
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote: So what argument am I ignoring?
If it was a dog, it would have sniffed you. Blind as stated. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:If it was a dog, it would have sniffed you. Blind as stated. Prove it. What argument was I ignoring?
Adunh Slavy wrote:Tippia wrote: So what argument am I ignoring?
If it was a dog, it would have sniffed you. Blind as stated.
see.... you guys really arent arguing over the topic anymore, just sniping back an forth
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:30:00 -
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Ibn Taymiyyah wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Command ships can still be blapped by a small fleet of destroyers. Don't really care for the outcome of this discussion, but I'd like the see that small fleet of destroyers take down a command ship before concord arrives, as this is the point someone is making. 2/3 Destroyers taking down a 300mil ship in less time than concord needs to arrive.
I'd like to see a command ship mine 2500 m3/minute |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:31:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Tippia wrote:Adunh Slavy wrote:If it was a dog, it would have sniffed you. Blind as stated. Prove it. What argument was I ignoring? Adunh Slavy wrote:Tippia wrote: So what argument am I ignoring?
If it was a dog, it would have sniffed you. Blind as stated. see.... you guys really arent arguing over the topic anymore, just sniping back an forth
It's entertaining truthfully, wonder if they can turn this into a threadnaught by their views alone. -á |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6025
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:36:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:see.... you guys really arent arguing over the topic anymore, just sniping back an forth I'm trying to, but he can't provide the on-topic argument he supposedly made, which makes it very hard to respond to itGǪ vOv
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:36:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:
It's entertaining truthfully, wonder if they can turn this into a threadnaught by their views alone.
No... 20 pages isnt a threadnaught
hell "what is the avatar above me thinking" is 80 something... WiS is 214... Hell the Mittani one was even longer
Tippia wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:see.... you guys really arent arguing over the topic anymore, just sniping back an forth I'm trying to, but he can't provide the on-topic argument he supposedly made, which makes it very hard to respond to itGǪ vOv
so if he wont do anything but drag it off topic, why encourage it. This thread has run its course and needs to go really.
I put in a ticket to CCP but Im just High sec dweller # 294478347846 so I dont expect to be listened to really lol https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
600
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:I'm trying to, but he can't provide the on-topic argument he supposedly made, which makes it very hard to respond to itGǪ vOv
I did, you missed it, Someone else did as well, you ignored it again. Get over it. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:44:00 -
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looks like the thread restarted here:
go here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:45:00 -
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wow look at this, a 42k ehp hulk
http://i.imgur.com/2kY32.jpg |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
277
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:46:00 -
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huh 400 000 million isk to get 40 k ehp which can be ganked by 4 tornadoes which cost half the price of the hulk... cool beans man... |
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Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:49:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:huh 400 000 million isk to get 40 k ehp which can be ganked by 4 tornadoes which cost half the price of the hulk... cool beans man...
okay
would the gankers go after your 40k ehp hulk or the paper tanked hulk with a civilian shield booster next to you? obviously the latter
would they even USE four tornadoes on you? nope |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:50:00 -
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also I have a solution for evading artillery ganks
orbit a can |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:50:00 -
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doesnt anything under 50k still die to a dessie? Cause I saw something earlier Tippia put up about a 50k something else earlier and said it could still die to them https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.04.12 02:51:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:doesnt anything under 50k still die to a dessie? Cause I saw something earlier Tippia put up about a 50k something else earlier and said it could still die to them
pack ECM drones |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:02:00 -
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Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:doesnt anything under 50k still die to a dessie? Cause I saw something earlier Tippia put up about a 50k something else earlier and said it could still die to them pack ECM drones
ecm on a hulk?
you dont wanna mine anymore huh lol
Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:04:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage?
Yes, it's called "adapting." |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6025
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:04:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:I did, you missed it Prove it.
Kengutsi Akira wrote:doesnt anything under 50k still die to a dessie? Cause I saw something earlier Tippia put up about a 50k something else earlier and said it could still die to them No, that was the silly-CS, which would die to a bunch of dessies. My general rule of thumb is 700 DPS from a gank dessie; so you need about 7k EHP for every 10s of CONCORD not being there (20k+ or so in 0.5). Tier-3 BCs and BSes will most likely use alpha, making sec level less of a factor GÇö 30k EHP or so should make you fairly safe from a single ship.
Yes. Why not? That should let you survive maybe one more destroyer on average than you otherwise would. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:07:00 -
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Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage? Yes, it's called "adapting."
k, adapt to "maximum mining AND survival"
come up with that you win lol
Yes. Why not? That should let you survive maybe one more destroyer on average than you otherwise would.[/quote]
I think this is where we deadlock on the same argument thats come up for the last 28 pages. You tank it and you get the yield of a Covetor or thats what everyone says. IVE never lost a Hulk and DONT tank it cause I PERSONALLY dont mine where there are people. OR when hulkageddon is on. So I havent ever had an issue. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:08:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage? Yes, it's called "adapting." k, adapt to "maximum mining AND survival"
EVE is about making choices. You can't have it both ways - fit to survive, or fit for maximum yield. Not both. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
391
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Posted - 2012.04.12 03:11:00 -
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Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Lanasak wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Or is this devolving to the screw what the ship is made for lets just survive stage? Yes, it's called "adapting." k, adapt to "maximum mining AND survival" EVE is about making choices. You can't have it both ways - fit to survive, or fit for maximum yield. Not both.
again... or dont mine where there are people AND fit for maximum yield.
(yeah I dont mine on the gyu I use on forums so locators dont help with that track record lol)
I actually DONT think the Hulk needs a buff. Ive used it for the better part of two years, untanked, maximum yield. DONT sit AFK BE ALIGNED DONT BE STUPID
and you dont lose them is what Ive learned from my time in EVE lol https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
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