(and which hasn't yet been declared an exploit to my knowledge)

... I guess that will satisfy every one

[Hulk, totally reasonable]
...
... I guess that will satisfy every one

That's boomerang itself, not the unfitting high value mods trick.

I didn't know it was possible to fit a Hulk with 0% resist across the board.

While the numbers for those guns are WAY off, I would like to point something out (and people ALWAYS seem to do this when talking about tank vs dps of a ship

When someone mentions the EHP of a ship, they aren't talking about raw hit points. Resists are already factored in. So when someone says 'I do X dps' or 'I do x volley damage' you don't factor resists in after that, they're already factored into the ehp/tank stats on a ship.

If you have a 500 DPS tank on a ship with a 25% resist bonus, you still get your tank broken by 600 DPS. Same way that in that example with the poorly thought out volley damage numbers, you have a scenario where 2 ships with 1400s would instapop a hulk. Resists dont come into play here, they were already factored into the EHP, I promise you the hulk doesnt get 33k raw shields.

[Hulk, totally reasonable]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Arkonor Mining Crystal I

Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II

Heavy Mining Drone II x 5
Warrior II x 5

... I guess that will satisfy every one

You guess right. That is, of course, if they add those 5 extra slots and a serious ammount of PG to the hull. I would love it though, this would pretty much solve all issues here.

I don't understand. There are plenty of fits that work for tanking (while mining and killing them) null sec rats.

When it comes to getting ganked in high sec i agree. But no excuses for null sec. An increase in PG would do it. Maybe an extra slot or two.

If CCP is going to put a stress on mining (which they are), make it easier/more efficient

yea, thats not possible, not by a long shot.

Overheating changes the damage multiplier? I thought it just changed the ROF?

Now, with the Orca unfitting trick brought to my awareness by the Boomerang instruction thread (and which hasn't yet been declared an exploit to my knowledge) allowing the use of high value modules in a suicide gank I can get about 12.5k volley out of a 'nado with Quake and a full rack of RF Gyros - and while three of those would take out baltec's fit the requirement for the Orca inside fitting range of all three makes it more than a little awkward to achieve (though, granted, not impossible).

Same reason why a supertanker has little defences, Its not a warship.

It has a tank bonus, indicating it was meant to tank something.

Yeah, Hulk is a T2 BC sized ship with a sub-cruiser tank.
Fricken pathetic and should be addressed.

I do not advocate making Exhumers with super-tanks but at least something respectable for their size, cost and tech level.

its funny you call other people sheep while you're complaining your grazing is insufficently safe from predators

highsec miners are, without exception, dimwitted idiots who deserve the destruction meeted out to them

never minned a day in my life other than that mission that made me mine once...

so i was looking at the hulk today and was wondering why there are so many high sec bear tears... when i noticed it had this awesome resist bonus profile but it cant fit a bloody LSE?!?!??!

either fix the damn ship ccp or add the 5th subsystem to TIII ships that are indy/minning based... shesh!

Supertankers would have a better tank if their job required them to be in an asteroid belt full of hostile battleships.