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Tai Paktu Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:34:00 - [481] Originally by: Aaron Static RESET TRANQUILITY I'd like to imagine this is a cleverly placed troll, meant to mock the mob mentality and utterly absurd accusations coming out of this thread. But I've been wrong before. Screw logic, let's make broad, sweeping generalizations with little to no proof to back up what we're saying, branding entire alliances as cheaters and exploiters and say CCP is the puppet master of an internet spaceship conspiracy within their own game! DANCE PUPPETS! DANCE!
Baske Space-Bar	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:36:00 - [482] Originally by: Bodhisattvas Originally by: Baske Edited by: Baske on 11/12/2008 08:00:24 Originally by: PROTOCOL Quote: This is just sick, how many alliances have been funded by this for 4 years while others have been working there asses off to to maintain there outposts A post on the forums ran by the emotards of this game, by a banned player who is likely retaliating is the only indication of the length of this exploit. They had lot's of ferrogel in their hanger just doesnt cut it as proof. Why don't you wait to see what ccp has to say. Do all you tin foil hatters think that they can provide an answer right away? This came to light in the middle of the damn night in iceland, you know that place where ccp work and live. This will take an investigation, ccp doesnt have a button they can push to spit out a list like you all want. Sit back, relax and I bet when the facts come out it is nowhere near the scope that this mob mentality has made it out to be. But keep screaming, you all look like fools. You sound more guilty than anyone in this thread, trying to stop people from complaining about an issue which most likely has had 10 times more impact on the game than 9/11 had to real life. Time out you muppet !! how could you even imagine the impact of 9/11 and even dare to disrespect the people that died in comparing it to a bloody game economy. You and the rest of the emotards whinging about nothing need a reality check. **** really does happen and if your virual empire is destroyed because of whatever get over it! play another game or something!! It was a relative comparisson, not a direct...ok? I do in no way disrespect those who died there, so stop your ranting. Fox Fan, lol !
Discrodia Gallente Independent Miners Guild	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:38:00 - [483] Okay, let's begin speculation on price shootups after this is done... I bet 1000% I like whales... I'm donating 300 mil towards an Orca BPO. Did you notice this is my sig? _______________ I mine rocks. Bigass rocks. :D
Childeric Polaris	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:39:00 - [484] CSM, please.
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:39:00 - [485] Strange, I suddenly started really hoping that DarkFall (fantasy MMORPG with Eve like PVP and full looting) won't be a failure. -Lasse hoping for full transparency and hefty punishments
Makeme A'Billion Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:41:00 - [486] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 11/12/2008 09:24:16 Originally by: Makeme A'Billion Snip benefited? i think everyone but those directly obtaining the isk were victimized. it diminishes the game for everyone pure and simple. Come on think outside of your "world is against me" box, that isk they got they obviously used to buy stuff on the market too, which means normal(non-exploity people) BENEFITED, that isk in turn was used to purchase something else, said seller BENEFITED and so on and so on...remember isk is only useful...for BUYING stuff, having it in your wallet is pretty boring and not very useful. Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia how do you know the exploit itself didn't play a large part in the formation (not from ground up, but as they are now), continued growth and preservation of the powerblocs we have today? Erm...it did! lol what on earth do you think people use isk for?!?!?!? of course it benefited them but as my previous example showed isk goes round and round and round... don't get me wrong, im not saying it was a good thing, but for people to do this for such a time scale was fair play on their part, and yes CCP messed up, what gripes me is people moaning its personally hurt them...it hasn't if that isk wasn't in the eve economy players would be alot poorer, and that my friend is pure and simple.
FlameGlow Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:45:00 - [487] Originally by: Makeme A'Billion Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 11/12/2008 09:24:16 Originally by: Makeme A'Billion Snip benefited? i think everyone but those directly obtaining the isk were victimized. it diminishes the game for everyone pure and simple. Come on think outside of your "world is against me" box, that isk they got they obviously used to buy stuff on the market too, which means normal(non-exploity people) BENEFITED, that isk in turn was used to purchase something else, said seller BENEFITED and so on and so on...remember isk is only useful...for BUYING stuff, having it in your wallet is pretty boring and not very useful. Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia how do you know the exploit itself didn't play a large part in the formation (not from ground up, but as they are now), continued growth and preservation of the powerblocs we have today? Erm...it did! lol what on earth do you think people use isk for?!?!?!? of course it benefited them but as my previous example showed isk goes round and round and round... don't get me wrong, im not saying it was a good thing, but for people to do this for such a time scale was fair play on their part, and yes CCP messed up, what gripes me is people moaning its personally hurt them...it hasn't if that isk wasn't in the eve economy players would be alot poorer, and that my friend is pure and simple. Look how dumb you are (c) goons Every honest person in trade chain got something in exchange for something, exploiters got something for nothing. In essence exploiters stole from everyone else in eve. _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button.
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:51:00 - [488] Originally by: Makeme A'Billion Im not saying it was a good thing, but for people to do this for such a time scale was fair play on their part. Die in a fire or grow a brain please. Seriously... People that think like you are whats wrong with the world.
Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:55:00 - [489] Edited by: Shadowsword on 11/12/2008 09:55:31 We know about one exploit case with an estimated 2500-3000 bilions isk taken away from legitimate high-end moon owners. We know two other entities abused the same mechanics. AFAIK, there's something like 250 dysprosium moons. I think it's safe to say that at least 50% of the exploit was about dyspro-related products. What does that mean for one dyspro moon? (3 000 000 000 0000.50) / ((3654)*250) = 4 millions per day loss That's a minimal estimate! It could be five that that much. That's a large amount of money for corp having a moon for an extended period of time. Can you imagine what it mean for Evolution or Reikoku? Dozens of billions, possibly hundreds. So, here's the big question: Will CCP make at least a partial compensation? ------------------------------------------
Kwint Sommer Caldari XERCORE	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:57:00 - [490] Originally by: FlameGlow Every honest person in trade chain got something in exchange for something, exploiters got something for nothing. In essence exploiters stole from everyone else in eve. In all fairness, they did still have to buy the POS's which could get popped, set them up, empty them periodically and manage the logistic chains to keep them fueled and transport the goods to market. So they did still have to put non-trivial time into it. Lets compare, Legit Reactor Operator: (monthly) Capital: 10B Profit: 2B Hours: 20 Exploiter Capital: 2B Profit: 8B Hours: 5-10 So instead of making a 20% return monthly they made a 400% return and instead of making ~100m an hour they made ~1200M an hour. Oh and their barrier to entry and risks were vastly reduced. Thus, they weren't really getting something for nothing; they were just making in excess of a billion an hour on a very small investment. Oh ya, and they ****ed up the entire economy and probably altered the balance of power in 0.0. Other than that, no bigy.
davcin Caldari davcin Corp	Posted - 2008.12.11 09:58:00 - [491] Edited by: davcin on 11/12/2008 09:58:36 Link to where a cheater explains what it was done: http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=21936
Miss Brunette	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:01:00 - [492] This is just sick. As an industrialist this just adds to the cake of feeling at an utter disadvantage relying on invention and market mats. This is making competiotion pretty useless with honest invention and market materials against cheaters AND their friends who say nothing when they buy adv.mats for 50% under marketprice, who also has aquired all the T2 bpos they need. Time to bring invention on par with t2 bpo's, make alchemy a WHOLE lot better than 20:1 (I would suggest evening out the field completely, make em 1:1), and/or spawn more (preferably lowsec moons since these wouldnt be as tainted as 0.0 sov moons). Oh, and name'n shame all these cheaters.
Secondary ISprimary	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:06:00 - [493] my question is : if a player send a petition about a bug like this and petition get closed(4 years ago) and no answer have been given can CCP ban this player account ?
Ima Near'Jita Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:06:00 - [494] Originally by: Shadowsword Edited by: Shadowsword on 11/12/2008 09:55:31 So, here's the big question: Will CCP make at least a partial compensation? Or an even bigger question....what makes you think your alliance is innocent?
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:12:00 - [495] Originally by: Ima Near'Jita Originally by: Shadowsword Edited by: Shadowsword on 11/12/2008 09:55:31 So, here's the big question: Will CCP make at least a partial compensation? Or an even bigger question....what makes you think your alliance is innocent? Even so... what makes us think CCP will actually act against high-level players such as for example sir molle. Put aside the close relationships with CCP employees, CCP would just be putting themselves more on the path of the media frenzy.
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:12:00 - [496] Originally by: Makeme A'Billion that my friend is pure and simple. your trolling is terrible. 1/10
Macmuelli Gallente Meltd0wn The Black Isle	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:12:00 - [497] Good to see its adressed. But what happend to all ppls/corps/ allys which had produce on a fair way in this time? The effects on the market u can see right now. I personal hope for a more detailled statement, with numbers , and effects within the 4 years. What maked it happend that u adresses it now, and not 4 yaers ago since the bug report/ petition? Was it a lie from the cheater to blame u CCP? This is the bunch in the face. HStt de MSkelb÷rger ierst n Menschen in sin Haart inschlottn, denn kann diese Mensch sich opn Meckelb÷rger full und gonz verlatten." evefan since 2003
N'irrti Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:15:00 - [498] wts: slightly used pitchforks and torches
Rock'n'Roll Lady	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:16:00 - [499] The way the exploit is explained by the cheaters on SHC "http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=21936", only one thing comes into my mind Easter Egg It is manually put there by someone in development team to get benefits from this. And if you assume this as truth all other theories fall in place like why the petition about this was closed without any action four years ago?
Makeme A'Billion Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:23:00 - [500] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Originally by: Makeme A'Billion that my friend is pure and simple. your trolling is terrible. 1/10 great response I reply to your post and it's trolling, you reply and it's what? try to remember there are other people in the world with an opinion and it's not always yours.
Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:25:00 - [501] Originally by: Ima Near'Jita Originally by: Shadowsword Edited by: Shadowsword on 11/12/2008 09:55:31 So, here's the big question: Will CCP make at least a partial compensation? Or an even bigger question....what makes you think your alliance is innocent? Very unlikely. I was one of the CEOs for a while, I'm vice-CEO now, so I have some visibility on both corporate and alliance assets and wallet. Our money come from legitimate T2/tax/moon sources and renting scheme, and we're not very rich to begin with. IF something nefarious took place, it was kept strictly on a personnal level. RA and Bob are probably clean, too. Else, why would have they put so much efforts in taking R64 moons? And that exploit espescially hurt R64 moon owners, so... ------------------------------------------
Mister Zero Synergy Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:25:00 - [502] http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7089/mailxm5.jpg "This exploit has had a profound effect on our game world" Gee, ya think? This is nothing short of an utter disgrace, CCP. Safe to say that the entire political landscape within the EVE Universe is entirely skewed based on what has been an on-going scam. What's worse is, by their own admission, weren't even paying customers. THOSE OF US WHO ARE DEMAND JUSTICE, GAWDAMMIT!
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:26:00 - [503] Originally by: Makeme A'Billion Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia Originally by: Makeme A'Billion that my friend is pure and simple. your trolling is terrible. 1/10 great response I reply to your post and it's trolling, you reply and it's what? try to remember there are other people in the world with an opinion and it's not always yours. sorry, i based my comment on the assumption you weren't just stupid if you really think that when someone exploits the game, its good for everybody because that person then uses that isk is just.... wow
Cheeba Don Ihatalo Navy Ihatalo Cartel	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:26:00 - [504] TBH, I would rather they keep the exploit and t2 items remain cheap. Ive never had more than a bill in my wallet but you know what, I enjoy playing the game just fine. If some guys want to micromanage 200 exploit pos to make 1000bill, good for them. I imagine this whole exploit is being blown waaay out of proportion. Lets be honest, free isk is something that would become common knowledge pretty damn fast in this game. /me hands out chill pills and points to the big "Its a Game sign"
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:29:00 - [505] I <3 scandal weeks. The forums are so much moar interesting when people are ruthlessly spin doctoring each others points of view to get the advantage. Btw, is Prism X getting good data from this for that social experiment of his? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Plague Black 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:30:00 - [506] Dear CCP, You should give us the following: 1) Names 2) Developer names and their resignations (if any took part in it since it looks like a 4 year deliberate cover-up) 3) A public appology (somewhere in the lines of "We suck hard, forgive us if you can or walk out if you can not"). Then and only then you might get some of respect back.
Fenren Minmatar Bure Astro Photography	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:34:00 - [507] Originally by: Rock'n'Roll Lady Edited by: Rock''n''Roll Lady on 11/12/2008 10:20:08 The way the exploit is explained by the cheaters on SHC "http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=21936", only one thing comes into my mind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(media) It is manually put there by someone in development team to get benefits from this. And if you assume this as truth all other theories fall in place like why the petition about this was closed without any action four years ago? there is no proof at all that this has gone on for 4 years, that a petition was made or that all alliances have made k's of billions out of it. the closest thing to a reasonable estimation of the timeframe was made by that guy who compared market history and thougt it had gone on for a few weeks. a post from a random char on the forum (with or without a pic) can hardly be seen as evidence. stop jumping to conclutions!
Typhena The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:34:00 - [508] This is a shame.... again! --- Sig Under Construction
Quakers	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:35:00 - [509] can we called this Pos-gate? please let us call this Pos-gate!
Fenren Minmatar Bure Astro Photography	Posted - 2008.12.11 10:40:00 - [510] Originally by: Plague Black Dear CCP, You should give us the following: 1) Names 2) Developer names and their resignations (if any took part in it since it looks like a 4 year deliberate cover-up) 3) A public appology (somewhere in the lines of "We suck hard, forgive us if you can or walk out if you can not"). Then and only then you might get some of respect back. if iceland has anything near the same laws and regulations about how and why you can fire people as the rest of the nordic counties have, they cant fire them. (and it seems they do. remember t20? he still works there iirc) and as others have said before, WAIT FOR SOME FACTS! we dont know anything about the scale of it.

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