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Cailais
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: ardik
Originally by: Cailais An "instance" is a replicated game area for only one group of players. Anyone entering that area joins a seperate (universe) game area. i.e you jump into amarr, so do I, but we are in different 'instances' and cannot interact or even 'see' one another.
Linkage
Who's stupid now huh?
C.
Yeah, who's stupid now
ok so it's still you, bummer
C.
Nice quoting skills.
C.
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ardik
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: ardik
Originally by: Cailais An "instance" is a replicated game area for only one group of players. Anyone entering that area joins a seperate (universe) game area. i.e you jump into amarr, so do I, but we are in different 'instances' and cannot interact or even 'see' one another.
Linkage
Who's stupid now huh?
C.
Yeah, who's stupid now
ok so it's still you, bummer
C.
Nice quoting skills.
C.
i...i dont even know what to say |
ardik
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:49:00 -
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are you trolling me? |
Cailais
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: ardik are you trolling me?
'fraid so. - call it counter trolling if you want, bit like ECCM, but more amusing.
C.
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Kovid
Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kovid on 26/01/2009 19:55:06 Edited by: Kovid on 26/01/2009 19:54:39
Originally by: CCP Whisper
Originally by: Serenity Star "And if all wormhole systems have a wormhole leading back to normal space..."
All wormholes systems have an exit wormhole, that does not mean an exit wormhole leading back to empire, just out of the system you are in.
This. You're going to have to wait for Greyscale's blog for the details, but "There is always a way out" does not always mean you're going to end up back where you started from. Your trek home might require getting through a couple of wormhole systems and then running the pipe from 0.0 down to Empire. You might pop out in Gallente space after having left from Vuorassi. All will be revealed in the near future though.
Empire standings will matter. Return to the wrong empire space? Oh hello factional navy. If your security is below -2 you betta watch out as well. |
Des Jardin
Ad Astra Vexillum Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:55:00 -
[306]
Despite what would no doubt be a logistical nightmare, imagine how cool it would be to build an Outpost in a wormhole system.
... off I go to change my 5-year plan ...
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:58:00 -
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The fact that the only way to enter a Wormhole system is Wormholes is going to make T3 hugely expensive. The logistical difficulties of
1) setting up a permanent base (of any kind) in a system you are likely to lose a known connection with at any time will only last as long as you can maintain it are cost prohibitive. 2) if someone manages to establish a permanent base and support it, anyone trying to shift them off their claim is going to be fighting an up hill battle.
The traditional resources in the system are worthless, barring a new mineral that can only be obtained via mining in unexplored space. Unless of course we are going to see new T1/T2 industrial ships that are Science/Industry focused that allow for the roaming fleets.
Does a wormhole back to known space tell you what known space it is? Or does someone with low empire standings have to run the gauntlet of high sec factional navy if they jump into the hostile empire's capital? And repeat the question about someone's carrier/dreadnought/mothership/Rorqual entering high sec via a wormhole, what stops them?
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
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ZombieFan 69er
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:01:00 -
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will my insure still be in affect if my ship gets popped???
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Rex Lashar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:04:00 -
[310]
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
What list? What are you talking about?
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Serenity Star
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
You has a very valid point. This brings up a bigger concern. If you start to set up a base of operations in a system, it is apparently guaranteed to have an exit WH. If that WH does not lead where you want it to, you just forcefully close it, and then hope that the next one does. As has been pointed out, this could be a very grueling task, and it could be made even more difficult depending on WH timers.
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Serenity Star
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Lashar
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
What list? What are you talking about?
Thats the point, the list was nothing. There is nothing stopping a player from going in and out of a WH and forcing it to collapse. |
FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:08:00 -
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Questions I have...
We know POS' can be anchored, but what about sov-required elements, like Outposts?
What is travel like between wormhole systems? Are these 4,000 or so systems only connected to one another via random wormholes, or is there some level of permanent interconnection?
It sounds as if the wormholes have some progressive paths to them, almost like 'rooms' in missions/plexes (the parts about going 'deeper' into wormhole space), is this the case?
Could you clarify the high-sec>wormhole / null-sec>wormhole distinction? It ounds as if wormhole space will have a similar sec rating system like the 0.0 system (which actually goes to -1.0). |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80 We know POS' can be anchored, but what about sov-required elements, like Outposts?
They won't exist. |
Bielbo
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:10:00 -
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What if i go thru the wormhole and get into wormhole space.... can i logoff and expect to find my ship alive when i log on again??? How will this work? |
Serenity Star
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Serenity Star on 26/01/2009 20:13:53
Originally by: FireFoxx80 Questions I have...
We know POS' can be anchored, but what about sov-required elements, like Outposts?
What is travel like between wormhole systems? Are these 4,000 or so systems only connected to one another via random wormholes, or is there some level of permanent interconnection?
It sounds as if the wormholes have some progressive paths to them, almost like 'rooms' in missions/plexes (the parts about going 'deeper' into wormhole space), is this the case?
Could you clarify the high-sec>wormhole / null-sec>wormhole distinction? It ounds as if wormhole space will have a similar sec rating system like the 0.0 system (which actually goes to -1.0).
"We know POS' can be anchored, but what about sov-required elements, like Outposts?" They have stated there will be NO sov, so the assumption can be made that things like Outposts are out of the question.
"What is travel like between wormhole systems? Are these 4,000 or so systems only connected to one another via random wormholes, or is there some level of permanent interconnection?" No clear answer on this yet. It seems like they are just connected by the random WH. They have stated though that there is only about 1000 new systems, maybe 2k.
"Could you clarify the high-sec>wormhole / null-sec>wormhole distinction? It ounds as if wormhole space will have a similar sec rating system like the 0.0 system (which actually goes to -1.0)." I think somewhere it was said that lower sec systems with a WH will more likely lead to a more profitable WH system, but do not think there is a clear answer on that yet.
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Lashar
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
What list? What are you talking about?
It was a smart assed way of saying that nothing would stop someone from doing so. |
Bielbo
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:16:00 -
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you guys still dont get it.... CCP are probably referring to the fact that NEW EDEN is a galaxy and the wormholes could lead you to a new galaxy!
CCP give us a light at the end of the tunnel! Please |
Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bielbo What if i go thru the wormhole and get into wormhole space.... can i logoff and expect to find my ship alive when i log on again??? How will this work?
The same as logging off in any other system most likely. After timer, your ship warps to limbo. When you log back on, it warps back to approx where you were. Nothing new changing here. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
Bookmarks! Man, I have* a hate/hate relationship with bookmarks. It's so intense that the 'have*' over there was another 'hate' before I proof read this. But my old score with them aside. They will work in their relevant systems although you never know what systems that is, it's position towards the one you are currently in, the way there or if the great Space Hydra has eaten it. But you can use them to see if you have been there before, yes. I cry inside thinking of the umpteenthousand new little bookmark records in the DB.
or you could... you know... name the systems :P think of all the bookmarks you would save.
In fact how about... USE THE NEW BACKGROUNDS YOUR WORKING ON as a way for players to know if they have been in that system before. Then players won't need to make bookmarks, they will fly into a wormhole, look into the sky and say "oh look, I'm in the right wing of orion. TADA, no one would make bookmarks just to see what systems they have been in.
However I know there is a chance the new background system won't be in the expansion but it is something to think about, save you some database headaches.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: dojocan81 i've a question and hopefully, it will be anwsered:
lets say player a finds a wormhole in 0.0, player b one in 0.1 low sec
is it possible, that 2 or more people from different corners of new eden, can catch up the same wormhole entrance ? or is it totally random ? or do wormhole system only have "one" entrance ?
cheers
I really hope some wormhole systems will have multiple ways in, so that people from different parts of space could meet up and have some good PvP.
in fact if every system has a way out.. then maybe this is allready the case? as an exit means there would be another way in? |
Morphisat
Rakeriku
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:27:00 -
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How rare will these things be ? Or will it requir hours and hours of mindnumbing scanning to find one ?
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ardik
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon I really hope some wormhole systems will have multiple ways in, so that people from different parts of space could meet up and have some good PvP.
YESSSSSSSSSS
lets risk our ****ty pve ships to do some PVP in systems that can potentially be a hundred jumps away from the nearest station.
or you know, just hit that scan button again and farm one of the other five thousand identical wormhole systems. |
Raneru
Euphoria Released Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:30:00 -
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I heard the wormholes will lead to Serenity and the "new NPCs" will all speak Chinese c/d?
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Williamat Centaurus
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:30:00 -
[325]
Originally by: X1994
Originally by: AleRiperKilt Giving the hints of a "big accident" in this dev blog and the last two chronicles I think is about time I pay my first ever visit to the Eve Gate... before something happens to it
I've visited the Eve Gate a few weeks ago - it looks totally different than it looked before The Empyrean Age:
Before After
Looks like it's about to Supernova! |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: ardik
Originally by: MotherMoon I really hope some wormhole systems will have multiple ways in, so that people from different parts of space could meet up and have some good PvP.
YESSSSSSSSSS
lets risk our ****ty pve ships to do some PVP in systems that can potentially be a hundred jumps away from the nearest station.
or you know, just hit that scan button again and farm one of the other five thousand identical wormhole systems.
actully if the thread in general is to be believed, the rats in these wormholes are going to have the ability to warp out of battle soooo... bring your pvp gear. |
Ackatosh
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:31:00 -
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Did anyone ever figure out what that BRIGHT STAR is that can be seen in a few 0.0 system? Is that possibly a wormhole or something? |
Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Morphisat How rare will these things be ? Or will it requir hours and hours of mindnumbing scanning to find one ?
Well, about 5200 accessable systems in new eden, with links to about 1000 wormhole systems, so even if each wormhole ssytem only had 1 access point (which it has been implied they can have more) you'd have to scan 5 systems on average to find a wormhole. |
Rex Lashar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
Originally by: Rex Lashar
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
What list? What are you talking about?
It was a smart assed way of saying that nothing would stop someone from doing so.
That's a ******ed response to give, since the player didn't ask for a list. Chances are he wrote a reply, hit post and the forum ate it like it always does. |
Bielbo
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Williamat Centaurus
Originally by: X1994
Originally by: AleRiperKilt Giving the hints of a "big accident" in this dev blog and the last two chronicles I think is about time I pay my first ever visit to the Eve Gate... before something happens to it
I've visited the Eve Gate a few weeks ago - it looks totally different than it looked before The Empyrean Age:
Before After
Looks like it's about to Supernova!
lol... thats accurate and scary! |
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