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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ackatosh Did anyone ever figure out what that BRIGHT STAR is that can be seen in a few 0.0 system? Is that possibly a wormhole or something?
Based on when it showed up, I was guessing it was them being silly and that it was a Christmas star or something.
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Baudolino
Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:32:00 -
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About tech III
As ALL wormholes link to new systems with the SAME technology... is it safe to assume that the wormholes in NEW EDEN link to a distant and slightly more advanced location somewhere else in the universe..
question...
will CCP at a later date introduce permanent gates to this other "galaxy" or "region"
and when can we occupy Jove space?
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ZombieFan 69er
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
Originally by: Ackatosh Did anyone ever figure out what that BRIGHT STAR is that can be seen in a few 0.0 system? Is that possibly a wormhole or something?
Based on when it showed up, I was guessing it was them being silly and that it was a Christmas star or something.
In the middle of JUNE?
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Ackatosh
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: ZombieFan 69er
Originally by: Clansworth
Originally by: Ackatosh Did anyone ever figure out what that BRIGHT STAR is that can be seen in a few 0.0 system? Is that possibly a wormhole or something?
Based on when it showed up, I was guessing it was them being silly and that it was a Christmas star or something.
In the middle of JUNE?
I'm with him on that aswell!
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london
Gallente KDS Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:35:00 -
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This is pure win. I bet cruisers with probe launchers will be popular for this; Not too small, not too big... and still cheap to loose.
So this seeds the materials for Tech 3, I wonder how long it will take before the first Tech 3 ship rolls out.
Also, the new seamless 3d solar system map with probe control sounds very interesting.
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Kristel Elke
Amarr Addikt Industries Codemonkey Construction Project
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:35:00 -
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please tell me we will have science vessels..
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:36:00 -
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you know by ardiks logic, every system in eve is an instance 
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Bielbo
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:36:00 -
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Another question...
We already have impulse drive, afterburner, microwarp drive, jump drive... how about a WORMHOLE drive???
It hasnt been spoken of much in SCF-FI movies and id like to think i can get a 'Tech 3 Wormhole Drive' off a dead    
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Lashar
Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Rex Lashar When asked by a player if people can go back and forth to close them, the dev quoted it and said nothing. So like.. wtf does that mean?     
The player asked what was stopping someone from going back and forth to use up the mass capacity of a wormhole. The Dev response was a list stating what would stop someone from doing so.
What list? What are you talking about?
A list with nothing in it can still be a list  -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
[Brackley, UK]
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Morphisat
Rakeriku
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth
Well, about 5200 accessable systems in new eden, with links to about 1000 wormhole systems, so even if each wormhole ssytem only had 1 access point (which it has been implied they can have more) you'd have to scan 5 systems on average to find a wormhole.
That doesnt sound too bad, we'll have to see how hard it will be in practise !
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Morphisat
Originally by: Clansworth
Well, about 5200 accessable systems in new eden, with links to about 1000 wormhole systems, so even if each wormhole ssytem only had 1 access point (which it has been implied they can have more) you'd have to scan 5 systems on average to find a wormhole.
That doesnt sound too bad, we'll have to see how hard it will be in practise !
well they allready siad it will be 2500 new systems so...
1 wormhole every other system?
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ackatosh Did anyone ever figure out what that BRIGHT STAR is that can be seen in a few 0.0 system? Is that possibly a wormhole or something?
If you are refering to this, then yes.
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Kim Telkin
Caldari Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:43:00 -
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I'm curious what options will be available if you log off in wormhole space. Is there anywhere to log off that is safe (equivalent to a station/outpost)? Will I just have to warp to a safe spot, disconnect and hope no one probes me before my ship is removed (I can pretend to be a titan pilot in that case ). Just curious, especially since you can get somewhat trapped in wormhole space for a while.
Also, what about buying/selling/markets in wormhole space. If for instance, I bring a badger's worth of probes with me can I gouge... er sell them to the poor guy who ran out? Short of dropping them out in a pod and hoping they'll give me money for it?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: Ackatosh Did anyone ever figure out what that BRIGHT STAR is that can be seen in a few 0.0 system? Is that possibly a wormhole or something?
If you are refering to this, then yes.
Quote: Graphics û General * In an effort to prepare for future graphics projects we are collecting information about graphics cards. This will allow us to better target the hardware of EVE's player base.
forgot about that
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kim Telkin I'm curious what options will be available if you log off in wormhole space. Is there anywhere to log off that is safe (equivalent to a station/outpost)? Will I just have to warp to a safe spot, disconnect and hope no one probes me before my ship is removed (I can pretend to be a titan pilot in that case ). Just curious, especially since you can get somewhat trapped in wormhole space for a while.
Also, what about buying/selling/markets in wormhole space. If for instance, I bring a badger's worth of probes with me can I gouge... er sell them to the poor guy who ran out? Short of dropping them out in a pod and hoping they'll give me money for it?
no but you could bring a ship full of probes and offer to help him get out for a fee 
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Blastil
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Blastil on 26/01/2009 20:48:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4
This was my reaction to the wormhole blog
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SirSpectre
Gallente Harbingers Of Destruction
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:48:00 -
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Damn this is awesome! I cant wait for this!!!!!!! AHHH!!!!
Question though, will it be possible for one of these wormhole systems to have a hidden station? Even NPCs need a place to hide too! |

ardik
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon you know by ardiks logic, every system in eve is an instance 
if you've ever tried ratting/exploring in 0.0, it might as well be |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: ardik
Originally by: MotherMoon you know by ardiks logic, every system in eve is an instance 
if you've ever tried ratting/exploring in 0.0, it might as well be
true
I wasn't disagreeing with you, just pointing out your logic, and thus why arguing with you is a pointless battle. |

Ackatosh
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Posted - 2009.01.26 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ackatosh on 26/01/2009 20:58:54 Ok my next question is f***** up:
I get a few of my guys in haulers and capital ships and all go into the wormhole... Only to find open space... ok thats cool... I think its only fair we can drop an outpost in that area with nothing stopping us except pirates and other player/npc's attacking us or the outpost! Question being: can we have Outposts pls :)
Please please please give us another 2 or 3 blogs in the next few days... its nigh on killing people... I should know i almost managed to get my friend to self destruct a dreadnought by telling him wormholes dont fit dreads          |
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: SirSpectre Damn this is awesome! I cant wait for this!!!!!!! AHHH!!!!
Question though, will it be possible for one of these wormhole systems to have a hidden station? Even NPCs need a place to hide too!
I think that's what pretty much every exploration site is already anyways.. and just like those already in game, I'm guessing they will be just as inhospitable to unexpected guests. |

Cailais
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Morphisat
Originally by: Clansworth
Well, about 5200 accessable systems in new eden, with links to about 1000 wormhole systems, so even if each wormhole ssytem only had 1 access point (which it has been implied they can have more) you'd have to scan 5 systems on average to find a wormhole.
That doesnt sound too bad, we'll have to see how hard it will be in practise !
well they allready siad it will be 2500 new systems so...
1 wormhole every other system?
Thats a possibility - but then there might be wormhole systems that can only be initally reached through another wormhole system. I dont expect CCP to give us too much information on this - most likely it will be something that explorers learn through trial and error.
C.
Originally by: Capa So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:17:00 -
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So, does this mean that we will finally be seeing space whales? ____________
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ZombieFan 69er
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tareen Kashaar So, does this mean that we will finally be seeing space whales?
/signed
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ackatosh I get a few of my guys in haulers and capital ships and all go into the wormhole... Only to find open space... ok thats cool... I think its only fair we can drop an outpost in that area with nothing stopping us except pirates and other player/npc's attacking us or the outpost! Question being: can we have Outposts pls :)
Starbases are already in there.. Outposts would, besides requiring sovereignty to determine ownership, be incredibly difficult to build logistically (even harder than the current difficult task it is in 0.0). That being said, I can see a need for some new POS facilities to allow living in the newly charted space. Some sort of personal storage space, a-la POS Array: Personal Storage Array. Also, if they fix their apparent blunder with cloning not being allowed, a POS Clone Vat would be interesting.. (actually, be interesting for a LOT of areas of New Eden as well). This just goes along with consitancy though.. you can build a Clone Vat bay and the Mothership/Rorqual/Titan to fit it on at a POS, but can't build a Clone Vat to function AT THAT POS? seems silly to me...
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:21:00 -
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Ok, I thought I had answered the question but apparently not clearly enough: Wormholes are always 2-way. You can go through them in both directions. Now clearly some of you have put your thinking caps on and figured out a way to game the system. Fair enough. I've linked the team to some of the posts about this and we're going to put our thinking caps on to figure out some way to make the minor "logistical annoyance" a bit less minor.
The other question I have seen a lot is whether wormhole systems will be connected via stargates. Wormhole systems will be connected to each other only via other wormholes. So once you are in a wormhole system you may find more wormholes that lead to other wormhole systems. These links are just as random and temporary as the ones from known space to wormhole space. The couple of thousand wormhole systems will have a constantly shifting network of connections. And yes, a wormhole system might have more than one connection to known space.
Incidentally, because it is getting really annoying typing 'wormhole space' and 'known space' over and over again, here's the internal nomenclature: K-System/K-Space : Known space from Empire to 0.0 W-System/W-Space : The unknown space that is formed by the wormhole systems K-W : A K-space to W-space bridge W-W : A W-space to W-space bridge W-K : A W-space to K-space bridge
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Morphisat
Originally by: Clansworth
Well, about 5200 accessable systems in new eden, with links to about 1000 wormhole systems, so even if each wormhole ssytem only had 1 access point (which it has been implied they can have more) you'd have to scan 5 systems on average to find a wormhole.
That doesnt sound too bad, we'll have to see how hard it will be in practise !
well they allready siad it will be 2500 new systems so...
1 wormhole every other system?
Thats a possibility - but then there might be wormhole systems that can only be initally reached through another wormhole system. I dont expect CCP to give us too much information on this - most likely it will be something that explorers learn through trial and error.
C.
Well, it seems the randomness of the system would easily make it so that there are routinely systems with no link directly to normal space, just other uncharted systems.. however, it'd be not to long before the randomness switches things around, and that unconnected-to-normal system is now linked to Jita... I love random...
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Raymon James
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Serenity Star
Originally by: CCP Whisper
Originally by: Serenity Star "And if all wormhole systems have a wormhole leading back to normal space..."
All wormholes systems have an exit wormhole, that does not mean an exit wormhole leading back to empire, just out of the system you are in.
This. You're going to have to wait for Greyscale's blog for the details, but "There is always a way out" does not always mean you're going to end up back where you started from. Your trek home might require getting through a couple of wormhole systems and then running the pipe from 0.0 down to Empire. You might pop out in Gallente space after having left from Vuorassi. All will be revealed in the near future though.
So a WH system does not nessecarly have a link back to the gate network.... YES! Greyscale... your blog... we needz it!
We are already suffering from blog withdrawal? wow! These blogs are the real thing! 
To be honest Im a bit confused about things. as it is it sounds like anyone entering a wormhole from empire is taking a chance that it pops and drops them into the guts of 0.0.
the odds are that if thats the case your not going to get many people from empire to bother with it, so I suspect that most high sec empire wormholes will drop you into empire.
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Whisper Incidentally, because it is getting really annoying typing 'wormhole space' and 'known space' over and over again, here's the internal nomenclature: K-System/K-Space : Known space from Empire to 0.0 W-System/W-Space : The unknown space that is formed by the wormhole systems K-W : A K-space to W-space bridge W-W : A W-space to W-space bridge W-K : A W-space to K-space bridge
Dear god thank yo man.. I was just about to write a post proposing a name for the W-Space (1st non-dev use!) |
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CCP Whisper

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Posted - 2009.01.26 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cailais [...]I dont expect CCP to give us too much information on this - most likely it will be something that explorers learn through trial and error.
Slight quoting out of context for truth. While we're keen to give you a lot of information about this feature, some things you will just have to discover for yourself. We'll do our best to inform you about how the mechanics work and such, but as for content...well that's what exploration is all about, isn't it?
Also please note that this feature will be subject to balancing and revision as time goes by. We can add new exploration sites just like we do in K-space, we can modify the distribution of wormholes if we feel they're too common or too rare. As T3 will be based on the resources you find in wormhole space, there is obviously a need for traffic balancing. But that is one of the things which only time will tell.
But thanks for the comments and feedback left here so far. As said I've linked to some of the comments and asked the team to mull them over. Please do keep the comments coming. |
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