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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:00:00 -
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There I was having a fine day in my Dominix doing level 3 missions. Some were easy and some were challenging. Of course until I got to the Mordus mission. I dont remember the exact mission name but I remember the details pretty well. I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage. Before I could even count how many mobs there were I was locked with missiles coming at me. By time I had counted the 12 rats my shield had been depleted. I armor tank in my Dom so I hit my armor repairers and try and warp out realising something isnt right. So by the time I can count to 12 my shileds had been depleted, armor down 50% and I have been webbed and scrambled. So there I sit and watch my Dom go up in smoke with nothing I can do. I wasnt even able to lock a target before my ship was destroyed. I use a level 3 -16 qual agent. I have talked to many people that have had similar experiences since todays patch. I think this mission is beyond what I would call reasonable. I would hope CCP would make resitutions and fix this mission.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:00:00 -
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There I was having a fine day in my Dominix doing level 3 missions. Some were easy and some were challenging. Of course until I got to the Mordus mission. I dont remember the exact mission name but I remember the details pretty well. I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage. Before I could even count how many mobs there were I was locked with missiles coming at me. By time I had counted the 12 rats my shield had been depleted. I armor tank in my Dom so I hit my armor repairers and try and warp out realising something isnt right. So by the time I can count to 12 my shileds had been depleted, armor down 50% and I have been webbed and scrambled. So there I sit and watch my Dom go up in smoke with nothing I can do. I wasnt even able to lock a target before my ship was destroyed. I use a level 3 -16 qual agent. I have talked to many people that have had similar experiences since todays patch. I think this mission is beyond what I would call reasonable. I would hope CCP would make resitutions and fix this mission.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:05:00 -
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yeah u are totally right.. the same thing happend to me in my megaT.. i tried to petion it. so lets se how it goes.. null i hope to get my ship back. because there was no WAY at all we could have expected this.... 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:05:00 -
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yeah u are totally right.. the same thing happend to me in my megaT.. i tried to petion it. so lets se how it goes.. null i hope to get my ship back. because there was no WAY at all we could have expected this.... 
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:08:00 -
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A bunch of people I have talked to in the help channel have experienced the same situation and diappointment. I am also quite disappointed with what I have hear from others on the GM response. I myself have yet to been talked to by anyone from CCP.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:08:00 -
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A bunch of people I have talked to in the help channel have experienced the same situation and diappointment. I am also quite disappointed with what I have hear from others on the GM response. I myself have yet to been talked to by anyone from CCP.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:11:00 -
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well lets see what happends.. if there are many that are havin theese problems.. then it will be solved im sure of it.. but it just sucks but what can we do? man another patch that went to hell .... he he well i never thought i would loose my megat in 07 to some inty and cruiser.. never...
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:11:00 -
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well lets see what happends.. if there are many that are havin theese problems.. then it will be solved im sure of it.. but it just sucks but what can we do? man another patch that went to hell .... he he well i never thought i would loose my megat in 07 to some inty and cruiser.. never...
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:23:14 *EDIT AGAIN*
After a quick reply from Zrakor, it is clear that THERE ARE NO SPECIAL VERSIONS FOR BATTLESHIP S and all Mordus spawns containing cruisers, and are dished out by L3 agent missions are *IDENTICAL*.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228
Now stop the whining, and fight like a man ! if people can do them in cruisers, so can you gusys in a battleship. (This is applicable for whoever petitioned their loss )
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:23:14 *EDIT AGAIN*
After a quick reply from Zrakor, it is clear that THERE ARE NO SPECIAL VERSIONS FOR BATTLESHIP S and all Mordus spawns containing cruisers, and are dished out by L3 agent missions are *IDENTICAL*.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228
Now stop the whining, and fight like a man ! if people can do them in cruisers, so can you gusys in a battleship. (This is applicable for whoever petitioned their loss )
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:22:00 -
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BRO thats just what i did.. i was in my mega. i was equiped with 4 425mm 2 cruise L and 2 250mm and shield hardners and xlarge shield booster, and 10 ogres.. i began attackin at a range of 60 km... it started good.. then suddently they all used MWD on me and befor i could think i was webbed and jamed,, i couldent do ****.. and on top of that aditional 4 cruisers spawned at 10 km ..2 caracals and 2 moa.. i had no chance.. i was facin 7 frigs and 6 cruisers.. i took out 4 frig and 3 cruisers.. i had no chance at all..... u tell me did CCP do somethin wrong.. HELL YEA... well there is ur answer !
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:22:00 -
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BRO thats just what i did.. i was in my mega. i was equiped with 4 425mm 2 cruise L and 2 250mm and shield hardners and xlarge shield booster, and 10 ogres.. i began attackin at a range of 60 km... it started good.. then suddently they all used MWD on me and befor i could think i was webbed and jamed,, i couldent do ****.. and on top of that aditional 4 cruisers spawned at 10 km ..2 caracals and 2 moa.. i had no chance.. i was facin 7 frigs and 6 cruisers.. i took out 4 frig and 3 cruisers.. i had no chance at all..... u tell me did CCP do somethin wrong.. HELL YEA... well there is ur answer !
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Seliniah on 01/09/2004 01:28:56 You know I dont know. Maybe its not the same mission. Maybe its not the type if thing you should have to prepare for in .8 space. I was a bit taken back myself. Coulda been a fluke who knows. Being a self righteous ass doesnt change how it all went down. My Dom may not be set up optimaly but for complete destruction in less than 30 seconds I think that is a far stretch.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Seliniah on 01/09/2004 01:28:56 You know I dont know. Maybe its not the same mission. Maybe its not the type if thing you should have to prepare for in .8 space. I was a bit taken back myself. Coulda been a fluke who knows. Being a self righteous ass doesnt change how it all went down. My Dom may not be set up optimaly but for complete destruction in less than 30 seconds I think that is a far stretch.
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:23:25 Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:06:38
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:23:25 Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:06:38
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skitszo
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:29:00 -
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jammed?......you have to bring raven with FOF missils? lol first i've heard of jamming rats.
sounds like pre level 4 mission to me. 
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skitszo
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:29:00 -
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jammed?......you have to bring raven with FOF missils? lol first i've heard of jamming rats.
sounds like pre level 4 mission to me. 
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Pariah Cone
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:36:00 -
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Obscuremoron, you are an idiot. I've seen two versions of this mission. The one you are having an easy time with is...get this...easy. The 2nd one is not. It is nowhere near a lev3 quality mission. This is the type/difficulty mission I would expect for a lev4. Lay off with your everyone-is-a-whiner *****fest. I was running 2 55% named hardeners, 8 heavy drones, and tech2 repairers and my dom was ganked as well. So until you have all the facts, I suggest you drink a large cup of shut the hell up. |

Pariah Cone
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:36:00 -
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Obscuremoron, you are an idiot. I've seen two versions of this mission. The one you are having an easy time with is...get this...easy. The 2nd one is not. It is nowhere near a lev3 quality mission. This is the type/difficulty mission I would expect for a lev4. Lay off with your everyone-is-a-whiner *****fest. I was running 2 55% named hardeners, 8 heavy drones, and tech2 repairers and my dom was ganked as well. So until you have all the facts, I suggest you drink a large cup of shut the hell up. |
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:37:00 -
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yea u are right i know its a good mission...! but thats not the prob.. i dont wanna se this mission go away , its just that CCP dident tell anythin about the changes. therefore i couldent make the changes to my ship.. so i lost it.. without a chance.. i know how to do the tactics in the game.. trust me... ive been in this game for a while.. so.. but i just find it really annoining that once again i loose a ship because CCP forgets to mention the changes.. i check the patch notes evry time, .. i just want my megaT back. i worked a loooong way to get it.. and its not fair i lost it because of this..!........ 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:37:00 -
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yea u are right i know its a good mission...! but thats not the prob.. i dont wanna se this mission go away , its just that CCP dident tell anythin about the changes. therefore i couldent make the changes to my ship.. so i lost it.. without a chance.. i know how to do the tactics in the game.. trust me... ive been in this game for a while.. so.. but i just find it really annoining that once again i loose a ship because CCP forgets to mention the changes.. i check the patch notes evry time, .. i just want my megaT back. i worked a loooong way to get it.. and its not fair i lost it because of this..!........ 
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:24:56
Originally by: Pariah Cone Obscuremoron, you are an idiot. I've seen two versions of this mission. The one you are having an easy time with is...get this...easy. The 2nd one is not. It is nowhere near a lev3 quality mission. This is the type/difficulty mission I would expect for a lev4. Lay off with your everyone-is-a-whiner *****fest. I was running 2 55% named hardeners, 8 heavy drones, and tech2 repairers and my dom was ganked as well. So until you have all the facts, I suggest you drink a large cup of shut the hell up.
According to Zrakor in this thread : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228 there is NO harder version except for the one spawning the Mordus Raid Leader on the end (which I had twice now). So please, stop whining, be a man, and FIGHT in your battleship if I can do them with a 2 month old newbiechar in a CRUISER *tanking* them.
There.
Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, three Mordus Bobcats, one Mordus Cheetah and two Mordus Bounty Hunters must be destroyed in Mimen two Mordus Cheetahs and two Mordus Pumas must be destroyed in Mimen one Mordus Lion and one Mordus Leopard must be destroyed in Mimen
p.s. Dont let my corpmates read that new loveword you have for me - Obscuromoron is pretty cool :) Right now I've got Obscuroscr0tum, and Sobscuroditus  |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:24:56
Originally by: Pariah Cone Obscuremoron, you are an idiot. I've seen two versions of this mission. The one you are having an easy time with is...get this...easy. The 2nd one is not. It is nowhere near a lev3 quality mission. This is the type/difficulty mission I would expect for a lev4. Lay off with your everyone-is-a-whiner *****fest. I was running 2 55% named hardeners, 8 heavy drones, and tech2 repairers and my dom was ganked as well. So until you have all the facts, I suggest you drink a large cup of shut the hell up.
According to Zrakor in this thread : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228 there is NO harder version except for the one spawning the Mordus Raid Leader on the end (which I had twice now). So please, stop whining, be a man, and FIGHT in your battleship if I can do them with a 2 month old newbiechar in a CRUISER *tanking* them.
There.
Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, three Mordus Bobcats, one Mordus Cheetah and two Mordus Bounty Hunters must be destroyed in Mimen two Mordus Cheetahs and two Mordus Pumas must be destroyed in Mimen one Mordus Lion and one Mordus Leopard must be destroyed in Mimen
p.s. Dont let my corpmates read that new loveword you have for me - Obscuromoron is pretty cool :) Right now I've got Obscuroscr0tum, and Sobscuroditus  |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:38:00 -
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Oh here we go, finally a challenging mission and people actually petition (wtf for?) because they lost it? What the hell is wrong with you guys? Petition because you lost your ship to stronger npcs? Err...
And yes they do jam, propulsion jam that is. And yes, I almost lost my Dominix ,too, they are tough, but petition? I don't understand you people. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:38:00 -
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Oh here we go, finally a challenging mission and people actually petition (wtf for?) because they lost it? What the hell is wrong with you guys? Petition because you lost your ship to stronger npcs? Err...
And yes they do jam, propulsion jam that is. And yes, I almost lost my Dominix ,too, they are tough, but petition? I don't understand you people. |

Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:40:00 -
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ha ha PARIA.. u go... :) he he well yeah... but man this sucks... ur right its more a lvl 4 mission.. i just hope CCP will give me back my ship.. i can loose a cruiser. NO PROB.. but a BS in 0.7 to some patch.. hell no .. that i can accept
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:40:00 -
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ha ha PARIA.. u go... :) he he well yeah... but man this sucks... ur right its more a lvl 4 mission.. i just hope CCP will give me back my ship.. i can loose a cruiser. NO PROB.. but a BS in 0.7 to some patch.. hell no .. that i can accept
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield yea u are right i know its a good mission...! but thats not the prob.. i dont wanna se this mission go away , its just that CCP dident tell anythin about the changes. therefore i couldent make the changes to my ship.. so i lost it.. without a chance.. i know how to do the tactics in the game.. trust me... ive been in this game for a while.. so.. but i just find it really annoining that once again i loose a ship because CCP forgets to mention the changes.. i check the patch notes evry time, .. i just want my megaT back. i worked a loooong way to get it.. and its not fair i lost it because of this..!........ 
I can understand it from your point of view - but dont you think its a bit...naieve? To take on a new mission before first investigating what you're up against ?
The first time I jumped in @ 60km, and checked out what frigs I was dealing with. I had hardeners fitted for thermal, explosive and kinetic- and my armor has a high reistance against EM to begin with.
Now I tested the behaviour of the swarm, and it's really not very hard - just fit the right hardeners, and do some homework! They were shooting railguns and yellow missiles - meaning scourge/explosive missiles (prolly scourge since they are caldari based ships), and railguns is always kinetic/thermal.
Well, sorry to hear of your loss though, never nice. Next time prepare :) |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield yea u are right i know its a good mission...! but thats not the prob.. i dont wanna se this mission go away , its just that CCP dident tell anythin about the changes. therefore i couldent make the changes to my ship.. so i lost it.. without a chance.. i know how to do the tactics in the game.. trust me... ive been in this game for a while.. so.. but i just find it really annoining that once again i loose a ship because CCP forgets to mention the changes.. i check the patch notes evry time, .. i just want my megaT back. i worked a loooong way to get it.. and its not fair i lost it because of this..!........ 
I can understand it from your point of view - but dont you think its a bit...naieve? To take on a new mission before first investigating what you're up against ?
The first time I jumped in @ 60km, and checked out what frigs I was dealing with. I had hardeners fitted for thermal, explosive and kinetic- and my armor has a high reistance against EM to begin with.
Now I tested the behaviour of the swarm, and it's really not very hard - just fit the right hardeners, and do some homework! They were shooting railguns and yellow missiles - meaning scourge/explosive missiles (prolly scourge since they are caldari based ships), and railguns is always kinetic/thermal.
Well, sorry to hear of your loss though, never nice. Next time prepare :) |
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:45:00 -
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TECH 2.. u forget the game aint just for u... its for all people.. u migt disagree, but u must respect that we find this mission to hard.. i respect that u find it a good mission.. BUT U DONT TALK BAD to us. because we have a different appinion.. WTF is that??? eh 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:45:00 -
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TECH 2.. u forget the game aint just for u... its for all people.. u migt disagree, but u must respect that we find this mission to hard.. i respect that u find it a good mission.. BUT U DONT TALK BAD to us. because we have a different appinion.. WTF is that??? eh 
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield TECH 2.. u forget the game aint just for u... its for all people.. u migt disagree, but u must respect that we find this mission to hard.. i respect that u find it a good mission.. BUT U DONT TALK BAD to us. because we have a different appinion.. WTF is that??? eh 
Imho its not a an impossible mission - it's just a challenge, where normal missions are similar to mining veldspar, or doing courier missions....so yes, we have something to work for. But anyone in a Bs not winning against this is simply not well prepared - and a second time shouldnt happen, not for you either! Hardeners hardeners hardeners..
- obs |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield TECH 2.. u forget the game aint just for u... its for all people.. u migt disagree, but u must respect that we find this mission to hard.. i respect that u find it a good mission.. BUT U DONT TALK BAD to us. because we have a different appinion.. WTF is that??? eh 
Imho its not a an impossible mission - it's just a challenge, where normal missions are similar to mining veldspar, or doing courier missions....so yes, we have something to work for. But anyone in a Bs not winning against this is simply not well prepared - and a second time shouldnt happen, not for you either! Hardeners hardeners hardeners..
- obs |

Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:48:00 -
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that was nice of them to give you the opportunity to analyze the situation. I wish I had the same.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:48:00 -
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that was nice of them to give you the opportunity to analyze the situation. I wish I had the same.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:50:00 -
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maby it was abit naiv... BUT... i warped in at 60 km.. i checked out the ships.. i wasent used to batteling against inty with webber and scramblers... thats not right=!! and i did all the reshearch i could before accepting the mission.. i even asked in help channel.. they told me that it was just a normal mission with the same kind of rats as before just with new names.. so i thought no more of it and engaged,,, maby that was my mistake.. BUT if u see over the day. more then 50 bs was lost today because of this.. so ... i have been in help channel all day been talkin to lots of people that lost their ship.. and well.. i se it this way... that CCP made a mistake, they dident post anywere about the change.. if we just had been warned or anythin.. well taht could have helped.. BUT again CCP dident.. so... but lets se how things gows....
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:50:00 -
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maby it was abit naiv... BUT... i warped in at 60 km.. i checked out the ships.. i wasent used to batteling against inty with webber and scramblers... thats not right=!! and i did all the reshearch i could before accepting the mission.. i even asked in help channel.. they told me that it was just a normal mission with the same kind of rats as before just with new names.. so i thought no more of it and engaged,,, maby that was my mistake.. BUT if u see over the day. more then 50 bs was lost today because of this.. so ... i have been in help channel all day been talkin to lots of people that lost their ship.. and well.. i se it this way... that CCP made a mistake, they dident post anywere about the change.. if we just had been warned or anythin.. well taht could have helped.. BUT again CCP dident.. so... but lets se how things gows....
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Seliniah that was nice of them to give you the opportunity to analyze the situation. I wish I had the same.
They didnt give me time, I *took* time :) Jumped in @ 60, saw that two were closing in on me @ 1500m/sec and fired the afterburner to get me some time in seperating them from the crowd (and finish them off).
The rest was a lot slower (max 400m/sec average over time or so) ...and posed no threat.
Second time I got the mission I fitted another hardener and just jumped in (that would be just a few mins ago).
It's npc's, not pirates - they are predictable and easely countered! |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Seliniah that was nice of them to give you the opportunity to analyze the situation. I wish I had the same.
They didnt give me time, I *took* time :) Jumped in @ 60, saw that two were closing in on me @ 1500m/sec and fired the afterburner to get me some time in seperating them from the crowd (and finish them off).
The rest was a lot slower (max 400m/sec average over time or so) ...and posed no threat.
Second time I got the mission I fitted another hardener and just jumped in (that would be just a few mins ago).
It's npc's, not pirates - they are predictable and easely countered! |
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:53:00 -
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and by the way.. when i engaged the NPC.. i was at 60km. ok... and i set my ship to keep range and i used MWD..and i was engagin the 2 inty, and then suddently the 4 extra cruisers just appeared out of nowere and jamed me.. there was nothin i could do... it all happend within 1 minute,.... so...
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:53:00 -
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and by the way.. when i engaged the NPC.. i was at 60km. ok... and i set my ship to keep range and i used MWD..and i was engagin the 2 inty, and then suddently the 4 extra cruisers just appeared out of nowere and jamed me.. there was nothin i could do... it all happend within 1 minute,.... so...
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield maby it was abit naiv... BUT... i warped in at 60 km.. i checked out the ships.. i wasent used to batteling against inty with webber and scramblers... thats not right=!! and i did all the reshearch i could before accepting the mission.. i even asked in help channel.. they told me that it was just a normal mission with the same kind of rats as before just with new names.. so i thought no more of it and engaged,,, maby that was my mistake.. BUT if u see over the day. more then 50 bs was lost today because of this.. so ... i have been in help channel all day been talkin to lots of people that lost their ship.. and well.. i se it this way... that CCP made a mistake, they dident post anywere about the change.. if we just had been warned or anythin.. well taht could have helped.. BUT again CCP dident.. so... but lets se how things gows....
Aye, they stated that there were changes in the mission system and they would make that a "surprise" for us. I think that was cool - because it ment I really didnt know what I'd be up against, and that requires using my brain :)
But, aye, for less experienced players or players that had a bit of bad luck its crap that you dont know what you're up to - personally I was dissapointed not to find any info on the mordu guys on EVE-i so I couldnt check their resistances right away.
You've got a point - but hopefully you realise that this mission is GOOD - just perhaps wrong how it was introduced into the game.. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield maby it was abit naiv... BUT... i warped in at 60 km.. i checked out the ships.. i wasent used to batteling against inty with webber and scramblers... thats not right=!! and i did all the reshearch i could before accepting the mission.. i even asked in help channel.. they told me that it was just a normal mission with the same kind of rats as before just with new names.. so i thought no more of it and engaged,,, maby that was my mistake.. BUT if u see over the day. more then 50 bs was lost today because of this.. so ... i have been in help channel all day been talkin to lots of people that lost their ship.. and well.. i se it this way... that CCP made a mistake, they dident post anywere about the change.. if we just had been warned or anythin.. well taht could have helped.. BUT again CCP dident.. so... but lets se how things gows....
Aye, they stated that there were changes in the mission system and they would make that a "surprise" for us. I think that was cool - because it ment I really didnt know what I'd be up against, and that requires using my brain :)
But, aye, for less experienced players or players that had a bit of bad luck its crap that you dont know what you're up to - personally I was dissapointed not to find any info on the mordu guys on EVE-i so I couldnt check their resistances right away.
You've got a point - but hopefully you realise that this mission is GOOD - just perhaps wrong how it was introduced into the game.. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 02:02:44
Originally by: Chris Redfield and by the way.. when i engaged the NPC.. i was at 60km. ok... and i set my ship to keep range and i used MWD..and i was engagin the 2 inty, and then suddently the 4 extra cruisers just appeared out of nowere and jamed me.. there was nothin i could do... it all happend within 1 minute,.... so...
Yeah, there is a warning for that in the mission, it's a BESERK mission essentially. Read my friend :)
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Extra Info ----------------------- There may be extra waves of enemy ships that spawn during this mission in addition to the ones originally mentioned in the objectives. The journal objectives will update as these extra waves spawn.
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 02:02:44
Originally by: Chris Redfield and by the way.. when i engaged the NPC.. i was at 60km. ok... and i set my ship to keep range and i used MWD..and i was engagin the 2 inty, and then suddently the 4 extra cruisers just appeared out of nowere and jamed me.. there was nothin i could do... it all happend within 1 minute,.... so...
Yeah, there is a warning for that in the mission, it's a BESERK mission essentially. Read my friend :)
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Extra Info ----------------------- There may be extra waves of enemy ships that spawn during this mission in addition to the ones originally mentioned in the objectives. The journal objectives will update as these extra waves spawn.
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Asharee Intrefer on 01/09/2004 02:05:57 If I was to formulate "The first rule of life in EVE", it would be:
Never undock in a ship you can't afford to lose, no matter how safe you think you are.
To judge by your complaints, it seems you couldn't afford to lose your ships. I have yet to try this mission, but I can promise you I won't be here complaining if my ship gets blown to spacedust. I will applaud CCP for implementing a mission that's actually gives me a challenge.
This mission shouldn't be removed. I don't want the Zor situation again, the situation where a mission that proves to be a challenge gets removed just because some people couldn't handle it. Well, you had to learn the hard way that the mission was beyond your capabilities, so next time you get offered it you'll have to remember that you have the option to decline it.
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Asharee Intrefer on 01/09/2004 02:05:57 If I was to formulate "The first rule of life in EVE", it would be:
Never undock in a ship you can't afford to lose, no matter how safe you think you are.
To judge by your complaints, it seems you couldn't afford to lose your ships. I have yet to try this mission, but I can promise you I won't be here complaining if my ship gets blown to spacedust. I will applaud CCP for implementing a mission that's actually gives me a challenge.
This mission shouldn't be removed. I don't want the Zor situation again, the situation where a mission that proves to be a challenge gets removed just because some people couldn't handle it. Well, you had to learn the hard way that the mission was beyond your capabilities, so next time you get offered it you'll have to remember that you have the option to decline it.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:12:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Asharee Intrefer Edited by: Asharee Intrefer on 01/09/2004 02:05:57 If I was to formulate "The first rule of life in EVE", it would be:
Never undock in a ship you can't afford to lose, no matter how safe you think you are.
To judge by your complaints, it seems you couldn't afford to lose your ships. I have yet to try this mission, but I can promise you I won't be here complaining if my ship gets blown to spacedust. I will applaud CCP for implementing a mission that's actually gives me a challenge.
This mission shouldn't be removed. I don't want the Zor situation again, the situation where a mission that proves to be a challenge gets removed just because some people couldn't handle it. Well, you had to learn the hard way that the mission was beyond your capabilities, so next time you get offered it you'll have to remember that you have the option to decline it.
were did that come from? hmmmm i have the cababillities, but i had no chance to addabt at all! i have the skills i have the weapons the hardners the works... im used to ganging rats deep in 00.. talk about a challenge.. but i wasent set up for gangin (00) rats in 07 space on a agent lvl 3 mission.. i was set for normal combat... if i had been warned, then sure.. i could have got them all with no problem at all.. u dont know what u are talkin about!.... AND I STILL WANT THE MISSION TO STAY:: GODDAMIT UNDERSTAN..! i just want my ship back because CCP dident write athing about this... they made the patch note, inapropiate. they should have written that the mission " mordus ...-.-." and warned against it.. not justy say... we put in a surprise... yea thats cool... but not for people that actually take the game serius. ! 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Asharee Intrefer Edited by: Asharee Intrefer on 01/09/2004 02:05:57 If I was to formulate "The first rule of life in EVE", it would be:
Never undock in a ship you can't afford to lose, no matter how safe you think you are.
To judge by your complaints, it seems you couldn't afford to lose your ships. I have yet to try this mission, but I can promise you I won't be here complaining if my ship gets blown to spacedust. I will applaud CCP for implementing a mission that's actually gives me a challenge.
This mission shouldn't be removed. I don't want the Zor situation again, the situation where a mission that proves to be a challenge gets removed just because some people couldn't handle it. Well, you had to learn the hard way that the mission was beyond your capabilities, so next time you get offered it you'll have to remember that you have the option to decline it.
were did that come from? hmmmm i have the cababillities, but i had no chance to addabt at all! i have the skills i have the weapons the hardners the works... im used to ganging rats deep in 00.. talk about a challenge.. but i wasent set up for gangin (00) rats in 07 space on a agent lvl 3 mission.. i was set for normal combat... if i had been warned, then sure.. i could have got them all with no problem at all.. u dont know what u are talkin about!.... AND I STILL WANT THE MISSION TO STAY:: GODDAMIT UNDERSTAN..! i just want my ship back because CCP dident write athing about this... they made the patch note, inapropiate. they should have written that the mission " mordus ...-.-." and warned against it.. not justy say... we put in a surprise... yea thats cool... but not for people that actually take the game serius. ! 
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:14:00 -
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Now be prepared for a bunch of I read the fourm and I fitted exactly what was needed and I was almost killed but I did it responses. All ya gotta do is warp in at 1,000,000 km and lure them with cheese one at a time.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:14:00 -
[52]
Now be prepared for a bunch of I read the fourm and I fitted exactly what was needed and I was almost killed but I did it responses. All ya gotta do is warp in at 1,000,000 km and lure them with cheese one at a time.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Seliniah Now be prepared for a bunch of I read the fourm and I fitted exactly what was needed and I was almost killed but I did it responses. All ya gotta do is warp in at 1,000,000 km and lure them with cheese one at a time.
he he :) funny.. 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Seliniah Now be prepared for a bunch of I read the fourm and I fitted exactly what was needed and I was almost killed but I did it responses. All ya gotta do is warp in at 1,000,000 km and lure them with cheese one at a time.
he he :) funny.. 
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Seliniah Now be prepared for a bunch of I read the fourm and I fitted exactly what was needed and I was almost killed but I did it responses. All ya gotta do is warp in at 1,000,000 km and lure them with cheese one at a time.
Hehe either the luring with cheese (good one, thats basically what you need to do - pond em from a distance and kill the two bounthunter 1500m/sec OMFGPWN webbifyscramble mofos first) or a ubertanking setup should do. (Get your kinetic and thermal resistances above or close to 75% !)
I got this mission again after just finishing the other...cant complain o_O |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:19:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Seliniah Now be prepared for a bunch of I read the fourm and I fitted exactly what was needed and I was almost killed but I did it responses. All ya gotta do is warp in at 1,000,000 km and lure them with cheese one at a time.
Hehe either the luring with cheese (good one, thats basically what you need to do - pond em from a distance and kill the two bounthunter 1500m/sec OMFGPWN webbifyscramble mofos first) or a ubertanking setup should do. (Get your kinetic and thermal resistances above or close to 75% !)
I got this mission again after just finishing the other...cant complain o_O |

Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:33:00 -
[57]
ive just found out from CCP... that the mission toughness depends on wht ship u are using.. if u are using a crusier then the toughness will be adjusted to a cruiser and a BS and so on... so... u havent seen the real mission yet.. 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:33:00 -
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ive just found out from CCP... that the mission toughness depends on wht ship u are using.. if u are using a crusier then the toughness will be adjusted to a cruiser and a BS and so on... so... u havent seen the real mission yet.. 
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:34:00 -
[59]
then the BS one is wacked
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:34:00 -
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then the BS one is wacked
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:38:00 -
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So that's what "The pirate encounter "aggressiveness" parameter should work as intended" in the patchnotes means?
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:38:00 -
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So that's what "The pirate encounter "aggressiveness" parameter should work as intended" in the patchnotes means?
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:41:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Asharee Intrefer So that's what "The pirate encounter "aggressiveness" parameter should work as intended" in the patchnotes means?
apperently.. yes ...... its a cool idea but they just thrown it in our faces, but WTF its only a game.. or is it :) 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Asharee Intrefer So that's what "The pirate encounter "aggressiveness" parameter should work as intended" in the patchnotes means?
apperently.. yes ...... its a cool idea but they just thrown it in our faces, but WTF its only a game.. or is it :) 
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Caldess
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:51:00 -
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I'm gonna try not to whine too much. Me and my Raven got owned on this mission. I'll admit I didn't do a ton of research going in, and I was able to put up a pretty stiff fight thanks to a Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher that spat out a Defender every 1.6 seconds, effectively disabling their missile offenses.
My main and pretty much only complaint is that the flow of my agent gave no indication as to the toughness of this mission. I had been doing the regular Damsel in Distress and kill the baddies at the bookmark, waiting for my agent to actually give me something vaguely worthwhile. I had been getting tougher missions from my level 2 agent before I recently left her to do a level 3 when my standing got high enough just two days ago. I'm only at 'Decent' rating with this level 3 agent. And suddenly this? It went from, "Own this guy and this bounty hunter rookie protecting him" to "Take on this fleet of mercenary assassins". The Raven is no big loss, I'll have another in two days, but it just sucked all of the realism out of it to suddenly have my agent that barely liked me and was still telling me to scrub his floor send me out on this high a difficulty of a kill mission. I feel like the biggest threat to me in Eve is CCP, its actions will probably cause me to lose more ships over my career than all the player rats put together.
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Caldess
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:51:00 -
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I'm gonna try not to whine too much. Me and my Raven got owned on this mission. I'll admit I didn't do a ton of research going in, and I was able to put up a pretty stiff fight thanks to a Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher that spat out a Defender every 1.6 seconds, effectively disabling their missile offenses.
My main and pretty much only complaint is that the flow of my agent gave no indication as to the toughness of this mission. I had been doing the regular Damsel in Distress and kill the baddies at the bookmark, waiting for my agent to actually give me something vaguely worthwhile. I had been getting tougher missions from my level 2 agent before I recently left her to do a level 3 when my standing got high enough just two days ago. I'm only at 'Decent' rating with this level 3 agent. And suddenly this? It went from, "Own this guy and this bounty hunter rookie protecting him" to "Take on this fleet of mercenary assassins". The Raven is no big loss, I'll have another in two days, but it just sucked all of the realism out of it to suddenly have my agent that barely liked me and was still telling me to scrub his floor send me out on this high a difficulty of a kill mission. I feel like the biggest threat to me in Eve is CCP, its actions will probably cause me to lose more ships over my career than all the player rats put together.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Caldess I'm gonna try not to whine too much. Me and my Raven got owned on this mission. I'll admit I didn't do a ton of research going in, and I was able to put up a pretty stiff fight thanks to a Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher that spat out a Defender every 1.6 seconds, effectively disabling their missile offenses.
My main and pretty much only complaint is that the flow of my agent gave no indication as to the toughness of this mission. I had been doing the regular Damsel in Distress and kill the baddies at the bookmark, waiting for my agent to actually give me something vaguely worthwhile. I had been getting tougher missions from my level 2 agent before I recently left her to do a level 3 when my standing got high enough just two days ago. I'm only at 'Decent' rating with this level 3 agent. And suddenly this? It went from, "Own this guy and this bounty hunter rookie protecting him" to "Take on this fleet of mercenary assassins". The Raven is no big loss, I'll have another in two days, but it just sucked all of the realism out of it to suddenly have my agent that barely liked me and was still telling me to scrub his floor send me out on this high a difficulty of a kill mission. I feel like the biggest threat to me in Eve is CCP, its actions will probably cause me to lose more ships over my career than all the player rats put together.
damn .. im sorry to hear... man a raven.. he he looks like evry BS has been shot down today.. he he .. a megaT a DOM , a scorp, a raven a tempest.. damn...
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Caldess I'm gonna try not to whine too much. Me and my Raven got owned on this mission. I'll admit I didn't do a ton of research going in, and I was able to put up a pretty stiff fight thanks to a Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher that spat out a Defender every 1.6 seconds, effectively disabling their missile offenses.
My main and pretty much only complaint is that the flow of my agent gave no indication as to the toughness of this mission. I had been doing the regular Damsel in Distress and kill the baddies at the bookmark, waiting for my agent to actually give me something vaguely worthwhile. I had been getting tougher missions from my level 2 agent before I recently left her to do a level 3 when my standing got high enough just two days ago. I'm only at 'Decent' rating with this level 3 agent. And suddenly this? It went from, "Own this guy and this bounty hunter rookie protecting him" to "Take on this fleet of mercenary assassins". The Raven is no big loss, I'll have another in two days, but it just sucked all of the realism out of it to suddenly have my agent that barely liked me and was still telling me to scrub his floor send me out on this high a difficulty of a kill mission. I feel like the biggest threat to me in Eve is CCP, its actions will probably cause me to lose more ships over my career than all the player rats put together.
damn .. im sorry to hear... man a raven.. he he looks like evry BS has been shot down today.. he he .. a megaT a DOM , a scorp, a raven a tempest.. damn...
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield ive just found out from CCP... that the mission toughness depends on wht ship u are using.. if u are using a crusier then the toughness will be adjusted to a cruiser and a BS and so on... so... u havent seen the real mission yet.. 
That sucks :( I want a better mission too ...grrrrrrrrr. But I guess good to balance it out.
I'll edit my replies above to match accordingly! |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Redfield ive just found out from CCP... that the mission toughness depends on wht ship u are using.. if u are using a crusier then the toughness will be adjusted to a cruiser and a BS and so on... so... u havent seen the real mission yet.. 
That sucks :( I want a better mission too ...grrrrrrrrr. But I guess good to balance it out.
I'll edit my replies above to match accordingly! |
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Caldess
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:06:00 -
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Eh, don't count mine as a loss. A more experienced pilot would've been able to take them, I was just nubbin' it up today and completely didn't see it coming. I seriously foresee myself developing a fear of undocking on patch day. I'll probably just carebear it up in a station all day while I do something else and see what's posted on the forums at the end of the day. Or I suppose at the most I'll probably only fly around in a cruiser until other people find out where the CCP Mines are planted, last time I get blown up by one of them.
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Caldess
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:06:00 -
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Eh, don't count mine as a loss. A more experienced pilot would've been able to take them, I was just nubbin' it up today and completely didn't see it coming. I seriously foresee myself developing a fear of undocking on patch day. I'll probably just carebear it up in a station all day while I do something else and see what's posted on the forums at the end of the day. Or I suppose at the most I'll probably only fly around in a cruiser until other people find out where the CCP Mines are planted, last time I get blown up by one of them.
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Caldess Eh, don't count mine as a loss. A more experienced pilot would've been able to take them, I was just nubbin' it up today and completely didn't see it coming. I seriously foresee myself developing a fear of undocking on patch day. I'll probably just carebear it up in a station all day while I do something else and see what's posted on the forums at the end of the day. Or I suppose at the most I'll probably only fly around in a cruiser until other people find out where the CCP Mines are planted, last time I get blown up by one of them.
he he :) sounds like a good plan... man, i wish i had the same economy as u. so i could get a new ship but i dont. i dident even had the ship insured.. it sucks.. he he but well yeah... 
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Chris Redfield
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Caldess Eh, don't count mine as a loss. A more experienced pilot would've been able to take them, I was just nubbin' it up today and completely didn't see it coming. I seriously foresee myself developing a fear of undocking on patch day. I'll probably just carebear it up in a station all day while I do something else and see what's posted on the forums at the end of the day. Or I suppose at the most I'll probably only fly around in a cruiser until other people find out where the CCP Mines are planted, last time I get blown up by one of them.
he he :) sounds like a good plan... man, i wish i had the same economy as u. so i could get a new ship but i dont. i dident even had the ship insured.. it sucks.. he he but well yeah... 
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Nilit
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:14:00 -
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Quote: yeah u are totally right.. the same thing happend to me in my megaT.. i tried to petion it. so lets se how it goes.. null i hope to get my ship back. because there was no WAY at all we could have expected this....
 read my sig 
Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying |

Nilit
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:14:00 -
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Quote: yeah u are totally right.. the same thing happend to me in my megaT.. i tried to petion it. so lets se how it goes.. null i hope to get my ship back. because there was no WAY at all we could have expected this....
 read my sig 
Arguing with EVE customer support is like chatting up stewardess on the plane - you know you're not gonna get any , but it's still hella fun trying |

Caldess
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Caldess on 01/09/2004 03:29:51 No insurance on mine, either, I'm just geographically located near two corp members who don't mind helping me out when stuff gets hard. I have one Megathron and an Apoc mine for me while I haul for them. I'd imagine if I didn't have the advantage of triple teaming like this I'd be pretty ****ed, though. I'd be on a huge vacation from Eve after being ***ed over like that. Also I haven't had to haul in awhile so I won't get immediately bored, will hopefully time it so I get tired of hauling just as I gather enough for my Raven. I'll probably miss that Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher more than the Raven, it was Defender ownage on a massive scale. 
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Caldess
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Caldess on 01/09/2004 03:29:51 No insurance on mine, either, I'm just geographically located near two corp members who don't mind helping me out when stuff gets hard. I have one Megathron and an Apoc mine for me while I haul for them. I'd imagine if I didn't have the advantage of triple teaming like this I'd be pretty ****ed, though. I'd be on a huge vacation from Eve after being ***ed over like that. Also I haven't had to haul in awhile so I won't get immediately bored, will hopefully time it so I get tired of hauling just as I gather enough for my Raven. I'll probably miss that Dread Guristas Rocket Launcher more than the Raven, it was Defender ownage on a massive scale. 
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:23:10 *hugs Caldess and caldess knows why* |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 03:17:00 -
[80]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:23:10 *hugs Caldess and caldess knows why* |
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Markolous
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Seliniah There I was having a fine day in my Dominix doing level 3 missions. Some were easy and some were challenging. Of course until I got to the Mordus mission. I dont remember the exact mission name but I remember the details pretty well. I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage. Before I could even count how many mobs there were I was locked with missiles coming at me. By time I had counted the 12 rats my shield had been depleted. I armor tank in my Dom so I hit my armor repairers and try and warp out realising something isnt right. So by the time I can count to 12 my shileds had been depleted, armor down 50% and I have been webbed and scrambled. So there I sit and watch my Dom go up in smoke with nothing I can do. I wasnt even able to lock a target before my ship was destroyed. I use a level 3 -16 qual agent. I have talked to many people that have had similar experiences since todays patch. I think this mission is beyond what I would call reasonable. I would hope CCP would make resitutions and fix this mission.
whats your armor tank setup... everyone i know who armor tanks in agent missions. didnt have any issues with todaus new missions... i know i didnt. and yes this is an alt..... |

Markolous
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:22:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Seliniah There I was having a fine day in my Dominix doing level 3 missions. Some were easy and some were challenging. Of course until I got to the Mordus mission. I dont remember the exact mission name but I remember the details pretty well. I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage. Before I could even count how many mobs there were I was locked with missiles coming at me. By time I had counted the 12 rats my shield had been depleted. I armor tank in my Dom so I hit my armor repairers and try and warp out realising something isnt right. So by the time I can count to 12 my shileds had been depleted, armor down 50% and I have been webbed and scrambled. So there I sit and watch my Dom go up in smoke with nothing I can do. I wasnt even able to lock a target before my ship was destroyed. I use a level 3 -16 qual agent. I have talked to many people that have had similar experiences since todays patch. I think this mission is beyond what I would call reasonable. I would hope CCP would make resitutions and fix this mission.
whats your armor tank setup... everyone i know who armor tanks in agent missions. didnt have any issues with todaus new missions... i know i didnt. and yes this is an alt..... |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:40:00 -
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Can't believe some of you guys actually blame CCP for the loss of your ship and want it reimbursed with a petition. I mean WTF?!! Seriously! You deserved to lose your ship! Get destroyed and learn! This is exactly like the Zor whining, keep it up and you'll have this cool mission removed soon,just like Zor. |

Tech2 Shoppe
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:40:00 -
[84]
Can't believe some of you guys actually blame CCP for the loss of your ship and want it reimbursed with a petition. I mean WTF?!! Seriously! You deserved to lose your ship! Get destroyed and learn! This is exactly like the Zor whining, keep it up and you'll have this cool mission removed soon,just like Zor. |

throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: obscuroditus I can understand it from your point of view - but dont you think its a bit...naieve? To take on a new mission before first investigating what you're up against ?
The first time I jumped in @ 60km, and checked out what frigs I was dealing with. I had hardeners fitted for thermal, explosive and kinetic- and my armor has a high reistance against EM to begin with.
Now I tested the behaviour of the swarm, and it's really not very hard - just fit the right hardeners, and do some homework! They were shooting railguns and yellow missiles - meaning scourge/explosive missiles (prolly scourge since they are caldari based ships), and railguns is always kinetic/thermal.
Well, sorry to hear of your loss though, never nice. Next time prepare :)[/quote
Havocs/Piranha are explosive while Scourge/Bloodclaw do kinetic damage. Please excuse but I just wanted to make this minor correction and also ask of those who have done this mission to confirm the damage type/weapons that these rats deliver for future reference since there is no listing on either eve-db or eve-i for the "Mordus' rats. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
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throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: obscuroditus I can understand it from your point of view - but dont you think its a bit...naieve? To take on a new mission before first investigating what you're up against ?
The first time I jumped in @ 60km, and checked out what frigs I was dealing with. I had hardeners fitted for thermal, explosive and kinetic- and my armor has a high reistance against EM to begin with.
Now I tested the behaviour of the swarm, and it's really not very hard - just fit the right hardeners, and do some homework! They were shooting railguns and yellow missiles - meaning scourge/explosive missiles (prolly scourge since they are caldari based ships), and railguns is always kinetic/thermal.
Well, sorry to hear of your loss though, never nice. Next time prepare :)[/quote
Havocs/Piranha are explosive while Scourge/Bloodclaw do kinetic damage. Please excuse but I just wanted to make this minor correction and also ask of those who have done this mission to confirm the damage type/weapons that these rats deliver for future reference since there is no listing on either eve-db or eve-i for the "Mordus' rats. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:56:00 -
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Its amazing how many people cant see their hand in front of their face. No one said to do away with the mission. There is only some concern as to the difficulty of the mission and the lack of warning. Sure its easy for some of you guys now that there have been a ton of losses and you get to do nothing but gain from my misery. I am sure if I would have better information I could also have done the picture perfect loadout to make this mission sucessful. Losing a battleship in less than 30 seconds is excessive no matter what your loadout is seems hard to handle for me to stomach. My loadout was 6 250 rails, mwd, 4 cap recharger I, phototonic cpu enhancer,type-e power core mod,diag system,large armor repairer,med armor repairer,2x energised adaptive nano membranes. Preach on about all your superior skills and such and about whiners like me....But if I wanna hear a butthole personally ill fart.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 04:56:00 -
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Its amazing how many people cant see their hand in front of their face. No one said to do away with the mission. There is only some concern as to the difficulty of the mission and the lack of warning. Sure its easy for some of you guys now that there have been a ton of losses and you get to do nothing but gain from my misery. I am sure if I would have better information I could also have done the picture perfect loadout to make this mission sucessful. Losing a battleship in less than 30 seconds is excessive no matter what your loadout is seems hard to handle for me to stomach. My loadout was 6 250 rails, mwd, 4 cap recharger I, phototonic cpu enhancer,type-e power core mod,diag system,large armor repairer,med armor repairer,2x energised adaptive nano membranes. Preach on about all your superior skills and such and about whiners like me....But if I wanna hear a butthole personally ill fart.
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Markolous
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Posted - 2004.09.01 05:06:00 -
[89]
i'm not going to diss your setup. but you are by no means armor tanking that ship....
i can help you with a nice setup if you like.... implying people are going to nag you and calling them buttholes before they do? whats that about?!?! |

Markolous
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Posted - 2004.09.01 05:06:00 -
[90]
i'm not going to diss your setup. but you are by no means armor tanking that ship....
i can help you with a nice setup if you like.... implying people are going to nag you and calling them buttholes before they do? whats that about?!?! |
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 05:14:00 -
[91]
I appreciate the offer on the setup....But no sense setting up a ship that no longer exists. It was a work on progress. I tried going to sleep and waking up with all the skills and everything I needed for an armor tanking setup but it didnt happen. It seemed to have worked fine until the raping I recieved from this mission. Some easy missions some challenging ones. This was beyond challenging by my standards.
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Seliniah
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Posted - 2004.09.01 05:14:00 -
[92]
I appreciate the offer on the setup....But no sense setting up a ship that no longer exists. It was a work on progress. I tried going to sleep and waking up with all the skills and everything I needed for an armor tanking setup but it didnt happen. It seemed to have worked fine until the raping I recieved from this mission. Some easy missions some challenging ones. This was beyond challenging by my standards.
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2004.09.01 05:23:00 -
[93]
Here's my setup for the Domi for that particular mission:
Highs: 4x250 Proto rails with AM ammo, 2X Heavy Nos.
Meds: 5xCap Re II's
Lows: 2x named LAR's, 2x hardeners: Kinetic and Thermal, three Cap Relays.
Heavy Drones: Wasps <-- your primary weapon.
Warp in at 15 km.
Handles those Mordu fellas really well. 
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VossKarr
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Posted - 2004.09.01 05:23:00 -
[94]
Here's my setup for the Domi for that particular mission:
Highs: 4x250 Proto rails with AM ammo, 2X Heavy Nos.
Meds: 5xCap Re II's
Lows: 2x named LAR's, 2x hardeners: Kinetic and Thermal, three Cap Relays.
Heavy Drones: Wasps <-- your primary weapon.
Warp in at 15 km.
Handles those Mordu fellas really well. 
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Myyona
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:17:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Myyona on 01/09/2004 06:18:40 Here's a nice trick when the battle is going against you: ESC->Quit. I know it's not well seen to do it in PvP, but who really cares when it's against rats. +----------------------------------+ Food and shelter save lifes, guns doesn't. |

Myyona
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:17:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Myyona on 01/09/2004 06:18:40 Here's a nice trick when the battle is going against you: ESC->Quit. I know it's not well seen to do it in PvP, but who really cares when it's against rats. +----------------------------------+ Food and shelter save lifes, guns doesn't. |

Dri Kulsane
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:36:00 -
[97]
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:06:15 *Edited*
It seems rats are adjusted according to your ship - e.g. more difficult in a BS then in a cruiser and a frigate.
This would explain why I did it in a crusader. I had to leave for a repair after they webbed me first time, but once I got back it was simple.
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Dri Kulsane
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:36:00 -
[98]
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:06:15 *Edited*
It seems rats are adjusted according to your ship - e.g. more difficult in a BS then in a cruiser and a frigate.
This would explain why I did it in a crusader. I had to leave for a repair after they webbed me first time, but once I got back it was simple.
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Diicc Tater
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:47:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Diicc Tater on 01/09/2004 06:50:20 I've had a good nights sleep to mend my deep running wounds after this mission.
There I was thinking The Blockade was getting easy but slow and that Gone Berserk was fun . My friend asks for help with his mission (Mordu headhunters). Happy to see the new missions I pack my Moa with great kinetic shields and stock up on ammo and head over to him... He warps in and I follow . While in warp i recieve his last meaningfull message... "Getting outa here!" I warp in, he's pinned down. I see a buttload of rats, 11 of them . Before I even get a chanse to turn my lazy Moa around I'm webbed or whatever it was. Manage to get one Cheeta out of the way and then my ship beggins to glow and I lose the remaining 50% cap in a sec. Shields gone, armour going....Pod heading back to base...
Now I don't want to complain about loosing my Moa, acctually. I really can't afford to lose that many ships but this was so worth it. Not because of loot but because now there are real missions again!
However, would it not have been a bit wiser to make these mission unavailable to lvl3 agents and just avtivated the lvl4 ones? Can it be that hard?
O and as if that wasn't the making for a bad evening of EVE I also moved a bookmark while in space...the last of 6 locations of a new Important mission. 
Don't want my ship back, my own fault. Great to see new missions! Too bad I didn't take the time to read the patch notes or whatever but when you use 56K modem that is really not what you want to do, you just wanna get out there and fly.
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Diicc Tater
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:47:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Diicc Tater on 01/09/2004 06:50:20 I've had a good nights sleep to mend my deep running wounds after this mission.
There I was thinking The Blockade was getting easy but slow and that Gone Berserk was fun . My friend asks for help with his mission (Mordu headhunters). Happy to see the new missions I pack my Moa with great kinetic shields and stock up on ammo and head over to him... He warps in and I follow . While in warp i recieve his last meaningfull message... "Getting outa here!" I warp in, he's pinned down. I see a buttload of rats, 11 of them . Before I even get a chanse to turn my lazy Moa around I'm webbed or whatever it was. Manage to get one Cheeta out of the way and then my ship beggins to glow and I lose the remaining 50% cap in a sec. Shields gone, armour going....Pod heading back to base...
Now I don't want to complain about loosing my Moa, acctually. I really can't afford to lose that many ships but this was so worth it. Not because of loot but because now there are real missions again!
However, would it not have been a bit wiser to make these mission unavailable to lvl3 agents and just avtivated the lvl4 ones? Can it be that hard?
O and as if that wasn't the making for a bad evening of EVE I also moved a bookmark while in space...the last of 6 locations of a new Important mission. 
Don't want my ship back, my own fault. Great to see new missions! Too bad I didn't take the time to read the patch notes or whatever but when you use 56K modem that is really not what you want to do, you just wanna get out there and fly.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:55:00 -
[101]
I did that mission today in my Scorpion.
The Bounty Hunters MWD in from 60 km in about 2-3 seconds, and cruise missiles, drones and cruiser sized beams dealt with them.
I found it was pretty easy, other than the 4 cruiser spawn right after the 12-13 ship initial spawn (4+ Osprey, 4+ Merlin, 2 Interceptors and a Moa) which was 2 Caracals and 2 Ospreys
www.hadean.org
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.09.01 06:55:00 -
[102]
I did that mission today in my Scorpion.
The Bounty Hunters MWD in from 60 km in about 2-3 seconds, and cruise missiles, drones and cruiser sized beams dealt with them.
I found it was pretty easy, other than the 4 cruiser spawn right after the 12-13 ship initial spawn (4+ Osprey, 4+ Merlin, 2 Interceptors and a Moa) which was 2 Caracals and 2 Ospreys
www.hadean.org
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.01 07:21:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Dri Kulsane
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:06:15 *Edited*
It seems rats are adjusted according to your ship - e.g. more difficult in a BS then in a cruiser and a frigate.
This would explain why I did it in a crusader. I had to leave for a repair after they webbed me first time, but once I got back it was simple.
I used my Moa first and got wtfpwned. I got all the same cruisers and frigs as the dominix guys I think. After that I took my Caracal fitted a mwd 5 heavylaunchers and the rest cap modules to keep my mwd run forever. That was the only way I could make it :) All missions are harder btw. One of the easier missions I usaly get from my agent suddenly spawned 5 cruisers ( terrorists) instead of 1 and 2 frigs or so.
Its alot of fun not to mention all the fine loot. I got 3 arbalest standard launchers from 1 mission yesterday _____________________________________________
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.01 07:21:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Dri Kulsane
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 03:06:15 *Edited*
It seems rats are adjusted according to your ship - e.g. more difficult in a BS then in a cruiser and a frigate.
This would explain why I did it in a crusader. I had to leave for a repair after they webbed me first time, but once I got back it was simple.
I used my Moa first and got wtfpwned. I got all the same cruisers and frigs as the dominix guys I think. After that I took my Caracal fitted a mwd 5 heavylaunchers and the rest cap modules to keep my mwd run forever. That was the only way I could make it :) All missions are harder btw. One of the easier missions I usaly get from my agent suddenly spawned 5 cruisers ( terrorists) instead of 1 and 2 frigs or so.
Its alot of fun not to mention all the fine loot. I got 3 arbalest standard launchers from 1 mission yesterday _____________________________________________
\o/ I got a siggy...
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Bellac
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Posted - 2004.09.01 08:36:00 -
[105]
well i managed this mission in my geddon - the rat list was pretty much as already posted by obscuroditus. It was a real challenge and i thought i might loose my ship ( was down to about 20% armour at the peak of battle), but IMHO a mission that you might actually loose at is exactly what i have been waiting for. Where is the fun in a game that you win at every time. I must add though that i am glad that this is just about as hard as the missions are at the moment. I will make sure to get some allies to help me with the first lvl 4 kill missions i try  .
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Bellac
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Posted - 2004.09.01 08:36:00 -
[106]
well i managed this mission in my geddon - the rat list was pretty much as already posted by obscuroditus. It was a real challenge and i thought i might loose my ship ( was down to about 20% armour at the peak of battle), but IMHO a mission that you might actually loose at is exactly what i have been waiting for. Where is the fun in a game that you win at every time. I must add though that i am glad that this is just about as hard as the missions are at the moment. I will make sure to get some allies to help me with the first lvl 4 kill missions i try  .
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EggGirl
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Posted - 2004.09.01 09:37:00 -
[107]
Just to add more info to the thread. I did the exact same mission as obscuroditus in my carcal and the sheilds never dropped below 20-30%.
So it would seem that the missions do alter according to the ship you accept them in.
So if you accept the mission in a "new" battle ship that you dont realy have the skills to do combat missions in, then you might loose it.
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EggGirl
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Posted - 2004.09.01 09:37:00 -
[108]
Just to add more info to the thread. I did the exact same mission as obscuroditus in my carcal and the sheilds never dropped below 20-30%.
So it would seem that the missions do alter according to the ship you accept them in.
So if you accept the mission in a "new" battle ship that you dont realy have the skills to do combat missions in, then you might loose it.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.01 09:52:00 -
[109]
I went back to my caracal yesterday after loosing my Moa. Do anyone know if the missile bonus work now? I stayed at 40 km to make sure I hit. If the bonus work I will stay at 60 km :) _____________________________________________
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.01 09:52:00 -
[110]
I went back to my caracal yesterday after loosing my Moa. Do anyone know if the missile bonus work now? I stayed at 40 km to make sure I hit. If the bonus work I will stay at 60 km :) _____________________________________________
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Gail Sabin
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:22:00 -
[111]
Maybe the missions slightly bugged. I warped in in a caracal, at 60k, was webbed, abused and in a pod 20 seconds later :) Didn't even get a chance to lock on to them.
Its is strange because I spent the entire day today killing 110k, 100k, 75k rats in packs in the same ship with the same setup.
I'm just going to let it expire I think.
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Gail Sabin
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:22:00 -
[112]
Maybe the missions slightly bugged. I warped in in a caracal, at 60k, was webbed, abused and in a pod 20 seconds later :) Didn't even get a chance to lock on to them.
Its is strange because I spent the entire day today killing 110k, 100k, 75k rats in packs in the same ship with the same setup.
I'm just going to let it expire I think.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:32:00 -
[113]
judt fit a mwd on the caracal and and start mwding in the oposite direcction as soon as you arrive. Kill the mercenary wingman before all the others cuz he is the one warpscrambling you _____________________________________________
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:32:00 -
[114]
judt fit a mwd on the caracal and and start mwding in the oposite direcction as soon as you arrive. Kill the mercenary wingman before all the others cuz he is the one warpscrambling you _____________________________________________
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Mat'Kurba
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:52:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Mat'Kurba on 01/09/2004 10:54:07 Done this fun mission today... warp in at 15km not really knowing which mission it is... started shield booster and let out 12 heavy drones (using Dominix) Shield was gone in about 20 sec then i started armor tanking... the first wave got me to 20% armor but i called back the drones before killing the last first wave rat and waited to get my armor to full and my shield up high and cap up again and then finished off the last first wave rat... the scond wave got me to 10% armor and then the last wave was really easy (only two)...
A nice interesting mission ... its doable and its fun...
To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, three Mordus Bobcats, one Mordus Cheetah and two Mordus Bounty Hunters must be destroyed in Aset two Mordus Cheetahs and two Mordus Pumas must be destroyed in Aset one Mordus Lion and one Mordus Leopard must be destroyed in Aset
p.s. didnt fire even one gun off :) let the drones do it :)
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Mat'Kurba
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:52:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Mat'Kurba on 01/09/2004 10:54:07 Done this fun mission today... warp in at 15km not really knowing which mission it is... started shield booster and let out 12 heavy drones (using Dominix) Shield was gone in about 20 sec then i started armor tanking... the first wave got me to 20% armor but i called back the drones before killing the last first wave rat and waited to get my armor to full and my shield up high and cap up again and then finished off the last first wave rat... the scond wave got me to 10% armor and then the last wave was really easy (only two)...
A nice interesting mission ... its doable and its fun...
To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, three Mordus Bobcats, one Mordus Cheetah and two Mordus Bounty Hunters must be destroyed in Aset two Mordus Cheetahs and two Mordus Pumas must be destroyed in Aset one Mordus Lion and one Mordus Leopard must be destroyed in Aset
p.s. didnt fire even one gun off :) let the drones do it :)
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zarn deathreaper
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:58:00 -
[117]
This was the best mission iv ever done. Well done ccp can we have more like this I did it in my Tempest and it gave me a bit of a hard time but i made it. The second time i did it it was easy 
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zarn deathreaper
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Posted - 2004.09.01 10:58:00 -
[118]
This was the best mission iv ever done. Well done ccp can we have more like this I did it in my Tempest and it gave me a bit of a hard time but i made it. The second time i did it it was easy 
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:11:00 -
[119]
This mission I have to say took me by suprise yesterday, but if I had short range weaps fitted it probably would not have been a prob.
Was funny as hell, wound up having to tank the rats whilst a couple of folks in local came out and killed the rats ;)
Chrome Born.
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:11:00 -
[120]
This mission I have to say took me by suprise yesterday, but if I had short range weaps fitted it probably would not have been a prob.
Was funny as hell, wound up having to tank the rats whilst a couple of folks in local came out and killed the rats ;)
Chrome Born.
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Mendel Black
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:16:00 -
[121]
Finally a challenge, risk to go along with reward.
This is how agents missions should be, before this patch no mission was even remotely risky and you might as well have been mining for all the interest you got from them.
But people petitioning cause they lost a ship to a tough mission is lame "imho" and people complaining because of new npc content is also lame "we need more content and more challenges". I did this mission before anybody had posted it on the boards, and yes I lost some armor, no I wasn't prepared for the level of difficulty "did it in a Raven" and yes I could possibly have lost my ship. But if I had lost my ship it would have been my fault, not the GMs, not CCPs but mine for not setting up my ship better just because I "assumed" it would be a walk in the park.
----------- Never argue with an idiot, they will only drag you down to thier level then beat you with their greater experience. |

Mendel Black
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:16:00 -
[122]
Finally a challenge, risk to go along with reward.
This is how agents missions should be, before this patch no mission was even remotely risky and you might as well have been mining for all the interest you got from them.
But people petitioning cause they lost a ship to a tough mission is lame "imho" and people complaining because of new npc content is also lame "we need more content and more challenges". I did this mission before anybody had posted it on the boards, and yes I lost some armor, no I wasn't prepared for the level of difficulty "did it in a Raven" and yes I could possibly have lost my ship. But if I had lost my ship it would have been my fault, not the GMs, not CCPs but mine for not setting up my ship better just because I "assumed" it would be a walk in the park.
----------- Never argue with an idiot, they will only drag you down to thier level then beat you with their greater experience. |

Dr Jekill
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:30:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Dr Jekill on 01/09/2004 11:42:28 Super good mission  
Ok got the mission from lvl3 Q-8 ussaly this guy gives normal missions no kill missions cause is an archives guy so i said it must be easy 
Got to the location before i was even there i am webbed and scrambled i turn around and start going away untill i was able to escape with -40 armor on my Scorp so warped to gate and called 3 of my corp mates 1 thorax 1 megathorn 1 apoc ... they mordu ships gone UP in Smoke
To be ownest i will not accept this mission again not because is hard. For sure is NOT. Hard was the first minutes of the encounters surprise, ie .. webbed and scrambled and lots of missiles lights ..etc.. the problem with this mission is .......
Ok and then we say WOOOOW maybe some good loot,New mission and MORDUS has usally all the latest prototype tecnology .... Well the loot was S,h,i,t like all other missions.
CCP a bit better LOOT please.
And the Agent wanted to give me for bonus 10 small shield boosters.
The good point of this mission is that it trys to get closer the Corp members by asking for help and you doing a mission like a team ...well i need it help AND maybe some of you will find this stupid, but i enjoyed it going with my Corp members on a NPC hunt, cause up to now i could manage this alone with no need to even talk or ask my corpys for help.
This is good job CCP many thanks
Vera Lynn --------------------------------------------- Born in London in 1917 became one of the most famous voices of World War II Vera's most popular song was "We'll Meet Again" |

Dr Jekill
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:30:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Dr Jekill on 01/09/2004 11:42:28 Super good mission  
Ok got the mission from lvl3 Q-8 ussaly this guy gives normal missions no kill missions cause is an archives guy so i said it must be easy 
Got to the location before i was even there i am webbed and scrambled i turn around and start going away untill i was able to escape with -40 armor on my Scorp so warped to gate and called 3 of my corp mates 1 thorax 1 megathorn 1 apoc ... they mordu ships gone UP in Smoke
To be ownest i will not accept this mission again not because is hard. For sure is NOT. Hard was the first minutes of the encounters surprise, ie .. webbed and scrambled and lots of missiles lights ..etc.. the problem with this mission is .......
Ok and then we say WOOOOW maybe some good loot,New mission and MORDUS has usally all the latest prototype tecnology .... Well the loot was S,h,i,t like all other missions.
CCP a bit better LOOT please.
And the Agent wanted to give me for bonus 10 small shield boosters.
The good point of this mission is that it trys to get closer the Corp members by asking for help and you doing a mission like a team ...well i need it help AND maybe some of you will find this stupid, but i enjoyed it going with my Corp members on a NPC hunt, cause up to now i could manage this alone with no need to even talk or ask my corpys for help.
This is good job CCP many thanks
Vera Lynn --------------------------------------------- Born in London in 1917 became one of the most famous voices of World War II Vera's most popular song was "We'll Meet Again" |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:34:00 -
[125]
Originally by: throbbinnoggin
Havocs/Piranha are explosive while Scourge/Bloodclaw do kinetic damage. Please excuse but I just wanted to make this minor correction and also ask of those who have done this mission to confirm the damage type/weapons that these rats deliver for future reference since there is no listing on either eve-db or eve-i for the "Mordus' rats.
I know. I said "Kinetic/Explosive" because you can not distuingish kinetics/explosives by the glow without comparing them to each other (both yellow). I left space open for people nitpicking about judging damagetype of missiles by their engine trail :)
Anyways, they shoot scourge - as you can expect from CALDARI ships - and I've confirmed this by checking my logs. Thats why I said "prolly scourge" because I was not 100% sure but 99.9%. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:34:00 -
[126]
Originally by: throbbinnoggin
Havocs/Piranha are explosive while Scourge/Bloodclaw do kinetic damage. Please excuse but I just wanted to make this minor correction and also ask of those who have done this mission to confirm the damage type/weapons that these rats deliver for future reference since there is no listing on either eve-db or eve-i for the "Mordus' rats.
I know. I said "Kinetic/Explosive" because you can not distuingish kinetics/explosives by the glow without comparing them to each other (both yellow). I left space open for people nitpicking about judging damagetype of missiles by their engine trail :)
Anyways, they shoot scourge - as you can expect from CALDARI ships - and I've confirmed this by checking my logs. Thats why I said "prolly scourge" because I was not 100% sure but 99.9%. |

Janeway
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:38:00 -
[127]
Ive had this mission 3 times now and absolutely love it. Its about time something happened that was remotely difficult. I fly a typhoon and havent lost my shield by more than 50% yet. If you had been out into 0.0 space and thought with a few NCP BS's you know what pain is, particularly when it comes to the joys of being scrambled and webbed at the same time.
I always work alone, always have and always will. No level 2 equipment just a standard level 1 BS with standard equipment but the knowledge on how to use it.
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Janeway
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:38:00 -
[128]
Ive had this mission 3 times now and absolutely love it. Its about time something happened that was remotely difficult. I fly a typhoon and havent lost my shield by more than 50% yet. If you had been out into 0.0 space and thought with a few NCP BS's you know what pain is, particularly when it comes to the joys of being scrambled and webbed at the same time.
I always work alone, always have and always will. No level 2 equipment just a standard level 1 BS with standard equipment but the knowledge on how to use it.
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Janeway
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:38:00 -
[129]
Ive had this mission 3 times now and absolutely love it. Its about time something happened that was remotely difficult. I fly a typhoon and havent lost my shield by more than 50% yet. If you had been out into 0.0 space and thought with a few NCP BS's you know what pain is, particularly when it comes to the joys of being scrambled and webbed at the same time.
I always work alone, always have and always will. No level 2 equipment just a standard level 1 BS with standard equipment but the knowledge on how to use it.
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Janeway
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:38:00 -
[130]
Ive had this mission 3 times now and absolutely love it. Its about time something happened that was remotely difficult. I fly a typhoon and havent lost my shield by more than 50% yet. If you had been out into 0.0 space and thought with a few NCP BS's you know what pain is, particularly when it comes to the joys of being scrambled and webbed at the same time.
I always work alone, always have and always will. No level 2 equipment just a standard level 1 BS with standard equipment but the knowledge on how to use it.
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:54:00 -
[131]
This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4  _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:54:00 -
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This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4  _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:57:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Oveur This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
Oveur, thanks for your reply *sighs in relief*
Can you tell us about the differences between this mission for a MALLER and for a BATTLESHIP ? Because I compared the ships I and the battleship had to fight - and the spawns were identical. Keeping the comment from the GM's in mind "mission adapts to your ship", does this mean the NPC's actually change their resistance and damage outputs?
Would be a great help to know if I'm combatting the same waves of mordus in my Maller as the guy with a BS on the block - some people are performance freaks you know 
Thanks in advance! |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:57:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Oveur This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
Oveur, thanks for your reply *sighs in relief*
Can you tell us about the differences between this mission for a MALLER and for a BATTLESHIP ? Because I compared the ships I and the battleship had to fight - and the spawns were identical. Keeping the comment from the GM's in mind "mission adapts to your ship", does this mean the NPC's actually change their resistance and damage outputs?
Would be a great help to know if I'm combatting the same waves of mordus in my Maller as the guy with a BS on the block - some people are performance freaks you know 
Thanks in advance! |

RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:58:00 -
[135]
Forget the whiners CCP. This is one time you guys have it exactly right. This mission is exactly what lvl 3 missions should be like. I for one am sick and tired of lvl 3 missions with 10k noob rats. Thanks for a challenge!!!
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RL Malcontent
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Posted - 2004.09.01 11:58:00 -
[136]
Forget the whiners CCP. This is one time you guys have it exactly right. This mission is exactly what lvl 3 missions should be like. I for one am sick and tired of lvl 3 missions with 10k noob rats. Thanks for a challenge!!!
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Balbriggan
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Posted - 2004.09.01 12:39:00 -
[137]
I agree that this is a wicked mission, and its what level 3 should be about. For those that lost their ship I comiserate your your loss. This mission is not really challenging in an omg, my ship will go po kind of way. The key is, as some have mentioned, preperation. The description gives you the basic ifo you need and should have served as a warning that this would not be easy. So with that in mind you can warpo in, make a bookmark, warp out, warp to desired range of bm and have a jolly old time killing the lil pests. not really a hard mission. The fact that your ships were lost is not, imho, a matter for petition. You were not affected by game mechanics, just poor preperation. Learn from the mistake and take greater care next time
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Balbriggan
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Posted - 2004.09.01 12:39:00 -
[138]
I agree that this is a wicked mission, and its what level 3 should be about. For those that lost their ship I comiserate your your loss. This mission is not really challenging in an omg, my ship will go po kind of way. The key is, as some have mentioned, preperation. The description gives you the basic ifo you need and should have served as a warning that this would not be easy. So with that in mind you can warpo in, make a bookmark, warp out, warp to desired range of bm and have a jolly old time killing the lil pests. not really a hard mission. The fact that your ships were lost is not, imho, a matter for petition. You were not affected by game mechanics, just poor preperation. Learn from the mistake and take greater care next time
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AshrakTheWhite
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Posted - 2004.09.01 12:49:00 -
[139]
after reading the first posts i think you guys are unbellivable n00b's although counting that when the mission was done i was at 47% hull ... tactics 101 take out the frigs first those guys web scramble then use SB to counter the missiles if you dont have one deploy your drones and let them shoot at the drones first gank them while theyr having fun with your drones and then it gets hard ... moas carcals etc but no more webbing or scrambleing :)
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AshrakTheWhite
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Posted - 2004.09.01 12:49:00 -
[140]
after reading the first posts i think you guys are unbellivable n00b's although counting that when the mission was done i was at 47% hull ... tactics 101 take out the frigs first those guys web scramble then use SB to counter the missiles if you dont have one deploy your drones and let them shoot at the drones first gank them while theyr having fun with your drones and then it gets hard ... moas carcals etc but no more webbing or scrambleing :)
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:21:00 -
[141]
If the mission difficulty depends on the ship you are in, then just accept it in a frig, go to the spawn, then go back before they get you and pick up a bigger ship 
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:21:00 -
[142]
If the mission difficulty depends on the ship you are in, then just accept it in a frig, go to the spawn, then go back before they get you and pick up a bigger ship 
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Malfunctionv2
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:24:00 -
[143]
All this is good and fine, but do follow up on that "better rewards" claim. 16,000 small lead charges != better rewards 
2004.08.25 23:39:52combatYour 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 496.8 damage. |

Malfunctionv2
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:24:00 -
[144]
All this is good and fine, but do follow up on that "better rewards" claim. 16,000 small lead charges != better rewards 
2004.08.25 23:39:52combatYour 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 496.8 damage. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:25:00 -
[145]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:30:24
Originally by: Chris Redfield ive just found out from CCP... that the mission toughness depends on wht ship u are using.. if u are using a crusier then the toughness will be adjusted to a cruiser and a BS and so on... so... u havent seen the real mission yet.. 
That is incorrect. L2 agents dish out a non-cruiser variety it seems, but all L3 agent missions are the same except for a SMALL chance of a harder version with the Mordus Raid Leader (650k) on the end.
See Zrakor's reply on this here : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228
If you lost your battleship to this mission, time to scratch the head as I said earlier - it's perfectly doable in a cruiser TANKING them - albeit a challenge!
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:25:00 -
[146]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 13:30:24
Originally by: Chris Redfield ive just found out from CCP... that the mission toughness depends on wht ship u are using.. if u are using a crusier then the toughness will be adjusted to a cruiser and a BS and so on... so... u havent seen the real mission yet.. 
That is incorrect. L2 agents dish out a non-cruiser variety it seems, but all L3 agent missions are the same except for a SMALL chance of a harder version with the Mordus Raid Leader (650k) on the end.
See Zrakor's reply on this here : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228
If you lost your battleship to this mission, time to scratch the head as I said earlier - it's perfectly doable in a cruiser TANKING them - albeit a challenge!
- obs out.  |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:26:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Reebo77 If the mission difficulty depends on the ship you are in, then just accept it in a frig, go to the spawn, then go back before they get you and pick up a bigger ship 
It doesnt - a myth introduced by some people to make the loss of their BS bearable 
Zrakor just denied any such claims : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228 |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:26:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Reebo77 If the mission difficulty depends on the ship you are in, then just accept it in a frig, go to the spawn, then go back before they get you and pick up a bigger ship 
It doesnt - a myth introduced by some people to make the loss of their BS bearable 
Zrakor just denied any such claims : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=106228 |

JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:32:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Oveur Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
I think I speak for the happy part of the customer base when I say
Bring'em on, sucka!!!  |

JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:32:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Oveur Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
I think I speak for the happy part of the customer base when I say
Bring'em on, sucka!!!  |
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:33:00 -
[151]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Oveur Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
I think I speak for the happy part of the customer base when I say
Bring'em on, sucka!!! 
Yeah ! :) I cant wait either....this means I would actually have to train my BS skill for something now mmmm. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:33:00 -
[152]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Oveur Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
I think I speak for the happy part of the customer base when I say
Bring'em on, sucka!!! 
Yeah ! :) I cant wait either....this means I would actually have to train my BS skill for something now mmmm. |

Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:38:00 -
[153]
Here we go...
Did this mission last night for a Level 2 Agent... I heard a few people talking about it, and was kinda amped up...when I got it....Cool new mission...
In my Stabber (My level 2 Agent ship)...and warp in at 60 km vice 40 km like I normally do, because I expected something really bad....
First thing I have a Kestrel, MWD at me...Drop (2) 720mm Carbine Howi, both Heavies (widow makers)....Beep DONE he is...
Then I start to look at what else I looked up...Bantam(s) across the board....Thinking "This is hard " I tear thru them...next wave..finally the last wave...Is Merlins and Kestrels....nope easy again..
Go in collect my loot....(nice loot at that)...
Warp back...collect my 83 Mag Pulse Thrusters...
So, Level 3 sounds crazy....but it sure sounds like you need a PvP setup...vice PvE setup....some WCS's...
So, you can escape....Someone was saying to warp in and kill the Ceptors...Sounds like a good idea to me....
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.01 13:38:00 -
[154]
Here we go...
Did this mission last night for a Level 2 Agent... I heard a few people talking about it, and was kinda amped up...when I got it....Cool new mission...
In my Stabber (My level 2 Agent ship)...and warp in at 60 km vice 40 km like I normally do, because I expected something really bad....
First thing I have a Kestrel, MWD at me...Drop (2) 720mm Carbine Howi, both Heavies (widow makers)....Beep DONE he is...
Then I start to look at what else I looked up...Bantam(s) across the board....Thinking "This is hard " I tear thru them...next wave..finally the last wave...Is Merlins and Kestrels....nope easy again..
Go in collect my loot....(nice loot at that)...
Warp back...collect my 83 Mag Pulse Thrusters...
So, Level 3 sounds crazy....but it sure sounds like you need a PvP setup...vice PvE setup....some WCS's...
So, you can escape....Someone was saying to warp in and kill the Ceptors...Sounds like a good idea to me....
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.09.01 14:44:00 -
[155]
Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Iidoken one Mordus Cheetah, one Mordus Puma and three Mordus Bobcats must be destroyed in Iidoken one Mordus Lion and one Mordus Leopard must be destroyed in Iidoken
Didnt have any problems with this mission after reading about it here, the bounty hunter mwd to me so i webbed him and my drones ate him  Rest of the spawns were easy ehough to deal with, just lost a few drones.
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.09.01 14:44:00 -
[156]
Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Iidoken one Mordus Cheetah, one Mordus Puma and three Mordus Bobcats must be destroyed in Iidoken one Mordus Lion and one Mordus Leopard must be destroyed in Iidoken
Didnt have any problems with this mission after reading about it here, the bounty hunter mwd to me so i webbed him and my drones ate him  Rest of the spawns were easy ehough to deal with, just lost a few drones.
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.09.01 15:01:00 -
[157]
always kill the interceptors first just like in 00,there are the ones who scramble and web..
I read the first post ,and i cannot believe someone loose a domi just that easy with all the drones a domi can carry..
same with the megathron..some people should just be flying a cruiser and do agent mission 1 and 2 if they dont know to use a bs.
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.09.01 15:01:00 -
[158]
always kill the interceptors first just like in 00,there are the ones who scramble and web..
I read the first post ,and i cannot believe someone loose a domi just that easy with all the drones a domi can carry..
same with the megathron..some people should just be flying a cruiser and do agent mission 1 and 2 if they dont know to use a bs.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.01 15:24:00 -
[159]
Originally by: BATT always kill the interceptors first just like in 00,there are the ones who scramble and web..
I read the first post ,and i cannot believe someone loose a domi just that easy with all the drones a domi can carry..
same with the megathron..some people should just be flying a cruiser and do agent mission 1 and 2 if they dont know to use a bs.
Batt, I have always done my Level 3 Kill Missions in a Carcal with very problems...sometimes I have warp out to fix armour or recharge shields....With at least 200 hundred mission completed for one Level 3 Agent I have lost only one Carcal..
Now...Hmm...sound like I need some CAP Boosters (150) or so, vice 75 or 100 (i looted, since the BPO is still missing)and a WCS...all handy if this mission drops...
U are correct...Smoke the Ceptors first....I would assume they will scramble the most....
BTW as mentioned the Level 2 Version of this is like a easy Level 3 Kill mission (just add two extra waves)...
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.01 15:24:00 -
[160]
Originally by: BATT always kill the interceptors first just like in 00,there are the ones who scramble and web..
I read the first post ,and i cannot believe someone loose a domi just that easy with all the drones a domi can carry..
same with the megathron..some people should just be flying a cruiser and do agent mission 1 and 2 if they dont know to use a bs.
Batt, I have always done my Level 3 Kill Missions in a Carcal with very problems...sometimes I have warp out to fix armour or recharge shields....With at least 200 hundred mission completed for one Level 3 Agent I have lost only one Carcal..
Now...Hmm...sound like I need some CAP Boosters (150) or so, vice 75 or 100 (i looted, since the BPO is still missing)and a WCS...all handy if this mission drops...
U are correct...Smoke the Ceptors first....I would assume they will scramble the most....
BTW as mentioned the Level 2 Version of this is like a easy Level 3 Kill mission (just add two extra waves)...
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2004.09.01 15:49:00 -
[161]
It's nice the missions are difficult again.
It was rather pathetic when I could do level 3 missions by warping in at 30km w/ a moa, never bother to move and kill everything that attacked me and stay over 50% shields.
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2004.09.01 15:49:00 -
[162]
It's nice the missions are difficult again.
It was rather pathetic when I could do level 3 missions by warping in at 30km w/ a moa, never bother to move and kill everything that attacked me and stay over 50% shields.
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.09.01 16:00:00 -
[163]
actually with a caracal,you should be fine if you approach with caution.. to me the best weapon against fast and small targets like interceptors are missiles..you can kill short and long range..then drones and smartbomb..
don't use missiles and smartbomb at same time for obvious reasons,and dont use torpedoes and drones ..
people who will show up with only big guns will have serious problems...
on another note..i can see an increase of tech 2 components rewards , because of the coming of elite cruisers..
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BATT
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Posted - 2004.09.01 16:00:00 -
[164]
actually with a caracal,you should be fine if you approach with caution.. to me the best weapon against fast and small targets like interceptors are missiles..you can kill short and long range..then drones and smartbomb..
don't use missiles and smartbomb at same time for obvious reasons,and dont use torpedoes and drones ..
people who will show up with only big guns will have serious problems...
on another note..i can see an increase of tech 2 components rewards , because of the coming of elite cruisers..
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.01 16:56:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Shevar on 01/09/2004 17:01:48 Edited by: Shevar on 01/09/2004 16:58:12 OMG....
This thread is the summon of patheticness....
Quote: remember the exact mission name but I remember the details pretty well. I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage. Before I could even count how many mobs there were I was locked with missiles coming at me. By time I had counted the 12 rats my shield had been depleted. I armor tank in my Dom so I hit my armor repairers and try and warp out realising something isnt right. So by the time I can count to 12 my shileds had been depleted, armor down 50% and I have been webbed and scrambled. So there I sit and watch my Dom go up in smoke with nothing I can do. I wasnt even able to lock a target before my ship was destroyed. I use a level 3 -16 qual agent. I have talked to many people that have had similar experiences since todays patch. I think this mission is beyond what I would call reasonable. I would hope CCP would make resitutions and fix this mission.
Erm, you got 7 low slots to tank (2x large reps, 3 hardeners, 1 dmg mod, 1 relay), 5 med slots to increase cap recharge/speed (mwd, tracking comp and 3 cap rechargers). You got like a 7500 dronebay filled to the max with a combo of mediums, heavies and light drones and you got 6 high slots for 250 rail guns (for missions i would use medium pulses (small guns) though since quite a few frigates can spawn and medium pulses have less troubles with that).
No way you could have been blown up if you used a decent setup like that even if you warp in at 15km (which is actually what you want to do anyways with this setup).
Don't blame your n00bness on the system, but learn from your mistakes :/
Quote: BRO thats just what i did.. i was in my mega. i was equiped with 4 425mm 2 cruise L and 2 250mm and shield hardners and xlarge shield booster, and 10 ogres.. i began attackin at a range of 60 km... it started good.. then suddently they all used MWD on me and befor i could think i was webbed and jamed,, i couldent do ****.. and on top of that aditional 4 cruisers spawned at 10 km ..2 caracals and 2 moa.. i had no chance.. i was facin 7 frigs and 6 cruisers.. i took out 4 frig and 3 cruisers.. i had no chance at all..... u tell me did CCP do somethin wrong.. HELL YEA... well there is ur answer !
Again complaining because you lost a TOTALLY ****ty setup on a mega, sorry but how dumb can you be? Use a comparable setup as above with the domi and you would have wtfpwned that spawn...
What just ****es me off about this thread is that people blame their n00bness on the game :/. Which IMHO is just totally wrong way on approaching the game, you messed up BIG time. Nothing to do with the mission, you just used a crap setup and got toasted (not to mention about people who are dumb enough to fly around in uninsured ships )... Why not try to grasp how the game actually works and make a setup that does work? It's just lame to give the "blame" to the game because you f'cked up.
Thanks to whiners like yourself we dont have the zor mission anymore, so please STFU and look at where the problem lies, because it most definatly lies with you... -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.09.01 16:56:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Shevar on 01/09/2004 17:01:48 Edited by: Shevar on 01/09/2004 16:58:12 OMG....
This thread is the summon of patheticness....
Quote: remember the exact mission name but I remember the details pretty well. I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage. Before I could even count how many mobs there were I was locked with missiles coming at me. By time I had counted the 12 rats my shield had been depleted. I armor tank in my Dom so I hit my armor repairers and try and warp out realising something isnt right. So by the time I can count to 12 my shileds had been depleted, armor down 50% and I have been webbed and scrambled. So there I sit and watch my Dom go up in smoke with nothing I can do. I wasnt even able to lock a target before my ship was destroyed. I use a level 3 -16 qual agent. I have talked to many people that have had similar experiences since todays patch. I think this mission is beyond what I would call reasonable. I would hope CCP would make resitutions and fix this mission.
Erm, you got 7 low slots to tank (2x large reps, 3 hardeners, 1 dmg mod, 1 relay), 5 med slots to increase cap recharge/speed (mwd, tracking comp and 3 cap rechargers). You got like a 7500 dronebay filled to the max with a combo of mediums, heavies and light drones and you got 6 high slots for 250 rail guns (for missions i would use medium pulses (small guns) though since quite a few frigates can spawn and medium pulses have less troubles with that).
No way you could have been blown up if you used a decent setup like that even if you warp in at 15km (which is actually what you want to do anyways with this setup).
Don't blame your n00bness on the system, but learn from your mistakes :/
Quote: BRO thats just what i did.. i was in my mega. i was equiped with 4 425mm 2 cruise L and 2 250mm and shield hardners and xlarge shield booster, and 10 ogres.. i began attackin at a range of 60 km... it started good.. then suddently they all used MWD on me and befor i could think i was webbed and jamed,, i couldent do ****.. and on top of that aditional 4 cruisers spawned at 10 km ..2 caracals and 2 moa.. i had no chance.. i was facin 7 frigs and 6 cruisers.. i took out 4 frig and 3 cruisers.. i had no chance at all..... u tell me did CCP do somethin wrong.. HELL YEA... well there is ur answer !
Again complaining because you lost a TOTALLY ****ty setup on a mega, sorry but how dumb can you be? Use a comparable setup as above with the domi and you would have wtfpwned that spawn...
What just ****es me off about this thread is that people blame their n00bness on the game :/. Which IMHO is just totally wrong way on approaching the game, you messed up BIG time. Nothing to do with the mission, you just used a crap setup and got toasted (not to mention about people who are dumb enough to fly around in uninsured ships )... Why not try to grasp how the game actually works and make a setup that does work? It's just lame to give the "blame" to the game because you f'cked up.
Thanks to whiners like yourself we dont have the zor mission anymore, so please STFU and look at where the problem lies, because it most definatly lies with you... -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.09.01 17:09:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Oveur This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
Great, very glad to hear it wont be dropped ;)
Just a lil request, any chance of making the harder missions more frequent for those with higher standings etc ?
Chrome Born.
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.09.01 17:09:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Oveur This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
Great, very glad to hear it wont be dropped ;)
Just a lil request, any chance of making the harder missions more frequent for those with higher standings etc ?
Chrome Born.
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Regall
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Posted - 2004.09.01 17:12:00 -
[169]
People seem to have underestimated the new rats. If it has cost you a ship, buy a new one. I'd rather not have missions like mordus, or its rates, removed like that other mission rat a long time ago ( starts with a Z, i think ). I see why you would be frustrated to lose a battleship to a mission you have done 100 times before, but I don't understand how you could miss the critical info in your mission description. If you see rats in the list that weren't there before the patch, or a mission you have never seen before, approach with caution by fitting some warp core stabilizers. I just completed the mordus mission in my crow. I had to take out the lion and leopard, dunno if this is the easy or hard version, but it was more than doable. This mission does not need fixing, your ship setups do.
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Regall
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Posted - 2004.09.01 17:12:00 -
[170]
People seem to have underestimated the new rats. If it has cost you a ship, buy a new one. I'd rather not have missions like mordus, or its rates, removed like that other mission rat a long time ago ( starts with a Z, i think ). I see why you would be frustrated to lose a battleship to a mission you have done 100 times before, but I don't understand how you could miss the critical info in your mission description. If you see rats in the list that weren't there before the patch, or a mission you have never seen before, approach with caution by fitting some warp core stabilizers. I just completed the mordus mission in my crow. I had to take out the lion and leopard, dunno if this is the easy or hard version, but it was more than doable. This mission does not need fixing, your ship setups do.
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Maule
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Posted - 2004.09.01 18:27:00 -
[171]
I¦ve taken this mission 5 times today.. in an armageddon (not tanket in anyway) and I have no problems whit it.. all I did was warp in at 60km.. aling to the gate you came from... if the agent mission have alot of ships and interseptors and so on.. make a bm. warp out. warp back in at 30km from the bm you made.. then you wont have any problems whit this mission.. its acturly easy. and I didn¦t expect it either but came out ontop anyway
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Maule
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Posted - 2004.09.01 18:27:00 -
[172]
I¦ve taken this mission 5 times today.. in an armageddon (not tanket in anyway) and I have no problems whit it.. all I did was warp in at 60km.. aling to the gate you came from... if the agent mission have alot of ships and interseptors and so on.. make a bm. warp out. warp back in at 30km from the bm you made.. then you wont have any problems whit this mission.. its acturly easy. and I didn¦t expect it either but came out ontop anyway
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 18:29:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Regall People seem to have underestimated the new rats. If it has cost you a ship, buy a new one. I'd rather not have missions like mordus, or its rates, removed like that other mission rat a long time ago ( starts with a Z, i think ). I see why you would be frustrated to lose a battleship to a mission you have done 100 times before, but I don't understand how you could miss the critical info in your mission description. If you see rats in the list that weren't there before the patch, or a mission you have never seen before, approach with caution by fitting some warp core stabilizers. I just completed the mordus mission in my crow. I had to take out the lion and leopard, dunno if this is the easy or hard version, but it was more than doable. This mission does not need fixing, your ship setups do.
The "easy/difficult" thing was introduced somehow...Zrakor clearly stated there is just ONE L3 agent version of the mission, *but* a small small chance to get a slightly harder variety (with a 650k commander on the end). I had both the missionversions and I cant say the 650k baddy is all that much nastier then the Lion. |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 18:29:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Regall People seem to have underestimated the new rats. If it has cost you a ship, buy a new one. I'd rather not have missions like mordus, or its rates, removed like that other mission rat a long time ago ( starts with a Z, i think ). I see why you would be frustrated to lose a battleship to a mission you have done 100 times before, but I don't understand how you could miss the critical info in your mission description. If you see rats in the list that weren't there before the patch, or a mission you have never seen before, approach with caution by fitting some warp core stabilizers. I just completed the mordus mission in my crow. I had to take out the lion and leopard, dunno if this is the easy or hard version, but it was more than doable. This mission does not need fixing, your ship setups do.
The "easy/difficult" thing was introduced somehow...Zrakor clearly stated there is just ONE L3 agent version of the mission, *but* a small small chance to get a slightly harder variety (with a 650k commander on the end). I had both the missionversions and I cant say the 650k baddy is all that much nastier then the Lion. |

Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.01 18:46:00 -
[175]
Guys, whats a big deal!?.... so they allowed Rats to use intercepters against us mission runners and made things a bit different. Now you actualy need to stop thinking like a robot (warp in, aproach, lock, kill.) but more like a pilots who fly in 0.0 and fight those things on daily basis.
I love those new missions. Its a wicked change of pace and it adds a world of difference to my over all game expirience. I did 2 of them yesterday in Rupture and I did not have as much fun in whole last month as much I had yesterday. Gave me a bit of adrenaline rush, made me to setup my ship a bit different to meet objective and gave me whole bunch of good loot and payout was right.
Way to go CCP. Please keep those things comming. With those changes, I can easily wait for level 4 missions now.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.01 18:46:00 -
[176]
Guys, whats a big deal!?.... so they allowed Rats to use intercepters against us mission runners and made things a bit different. Now you actualy need to stop thinking like a robot (warp in, aproach, lock, kill.) but more like a pilots who fly in 0.0 and fight those things on daily basis.
I love those new missions. Its a wicked change of pace and it adds a world of difference to my over all game expirience. I did 2 of them yesterday in Rupture and I did not have as much fun in whole last month as much I had yesterday. Gave me a bit of adrenaline rush, made me to setup my ship a bit different to meet objective and gave me whole bunch of good loot and payout was right.
Way to go CCP. Please keep those things comming. With those changes, I can easily wait for level 4 missions now.
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DeviLee
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Posted - 2004.09.01 19:03:00 -
[177]
People really should start using MWDs on their BS and large smartbombs for those friggys. Fit these two things and you will never be scrambled and webbed for more than a few seconds.
First thing you always need to do is get rid of ships with webbers and scramblers... ALWAYS. If you do that and manage to keep distance with the cruisers to keep them in your hitting range you will always win. Without a question. So pls stop complaining but CCP are a bunch of b4st4rds not to say anything in the patch info.
My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp. |

DeviLee
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Posted - 2004.09.01 19:03:00 -
[178]
People really should start using MWDs on their BS and large smartbombs for those friggys. Fit these two things and you will never be scrambled and webbed for more than a few seconds.
First thing you always need to do is get rid of ships with webbers and scramblers... ALWAYS. If you do that and manage to keep distance with the cruisers to keep them in your hitting range you will always win. Without a question. So pls stop complaining but CCP are a bunch of b4st4rds not to say anything in the patch info.
My words are my own and do not represent the views of my corp. |

Kretin Arnon
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Posted - 2004.09.01 19:50:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Kretin Arnon on 01/09/2004 19:52:22 I fitted a couple of small pulse lasers and boy did that mission just became easy or what? Only people with out a grib would fit heavy turrets to fight frigates.
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Kretin Arnon
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Posted - 2004.09.01 19:50:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Kretin Arnon on 01/09/2004 19:52:22 I fitted a couple of small pulse lasers and boy did that mission just became easy or what? Only people with out a grib would fit heavy turrets to fight frigates.
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 20:03:00 -
[181]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 20:07:02 Well...the mission bit me back :-)
As a previous mission with a lot of leftoverlootcans, a deserted wrecking-base-ish thing seemingly were eating up virtual memory, I stuttered back to the base, and accepted the mordus mossion.
I've done about 4 of em now since yesterday, in my trusty tank-a-maller.
"This stuttering wont last long..." is what I thought when exiting the station, in small hops of freezing, my hdd light flickering intensely.
Suffices to say that my lack of reservation for restarting my client was held against me not 5 minutes later, sitting in my pod 
It's quite hard to target anything if your screen keeps freezing up - and you dont really have a lot of time in the initial 5 minutes - your armor is being eaten away at amazing speeds, and the key is to eliminate damagedealers as quickly as possible.
Suffices to say I wasted valuable minutes trying to rightclick enemies in the melee of stuttering and freezups....and failed 
Now...I told myself "well you knew that on forehand, your own mistake...luckely there's nothing on your ship thats irreplaceable" . 5x Anode pulse lasers, a medium nosferatu, Large Peroxide Cap battery, Li-Fueled Booster rockets .....a recharger....and on low two small tech II armor repairers and some hardeners.
Wait.
The recharger. CRAP :) I just fitted a Eutectic 18% before starting the mission 
Haha. Suffices to say it was not in my remains... 
Oh well. That should learn me a lesson.......next time I'll just restart the client before going in :) Lazyness doesnt pay.  |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.01 20:03:00 -
[182]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 20:07:02 Well...the mission bit me back :-)
As a previous mission with a lot of leftoverlootcans, a deserted wrecking-base-ish thing seemingly were eating up virtual memory, I stuttered back to the base, and accepted the mordus mossion.
I've done about 4 of em now since yesterday, in my trusty tank-a-maller.
"This stuttering wont last long..." is what I thought when exiting the station, in small hops of freezing, my hdd light flickering intensely.
Suffices to say that my lack of reservation for restarting my client was held against me not 5 minutes later, sitting in my pod 
It's quite hard to target anything if your screen keeps freezing up - and you dont really have a lot of time in the initial 5 minutes - your armor is being eaten away at amazing speeds, and the key is to eliminate damagedealers as quickly as possible.
Suffices to say I wasted valuable minutes trying to rightclick enemies in the melee of stuttering and freezups....and failed 
Now...I told myself "well you knew that on forehand, your own mistake...luckely there's nothing on your ship thats irreplaceable" . 5x Anode pulse lasers, a medium nosferatu, Large Peroxide Cap battery, Li-Fueled Booster rockets .....a recharger....and on low two small tech II armor repairers and some hardeners.
Wait.
The recharger. CRAP :) I just fitted a Eutectic 18% before starting the mission 
Haha. Suffices to say it was not in my remains... 
Oh well. That should learn me a lesson.......next time I'll just restart the client before going in :) Lazyness doesnt pay.  |

Bombcrater
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Posted - 2004.09.01 20:54:00 -
[183]
Kudos to CCP for putting in an interesting mission.
Taking on board what people have been saying I was rather cautious first time on this one. I warped in at 60k in a shuttle, made a bookmark, and jumped out again. Then I took my Raven in at 60k from the BM and closed on the rats, spamming cruise missiles and torps at them. The first wave died quickly, and from then on I just MWD'd away from the rats as they warped in, firing heavies, cruises and torps as I went.
The 650k Raid Commander bit the dust pretty easy, but the Caracals on the second wave were a hard kill. Even with torps it's like knocking down a brick wall with a foam bat at times.
My only complaint about this one is that the sheer number of missiles needed to finish it really bites a chunk out of your profit. I went through 70 cruises, 40+ torps and a couple of hundred heavies.
Maye it's time to get myself an Apoc 
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2004.09.01 20:54:00 -
[184]
Kudos to CCP for putting in an interesting mission.
Taking on board what people have been saying I was rather cautious first time on this one. I warped in at 60k in a shuttle, made a bookmark, and jumped out again. Then I took my Raven in at 60k from the BM and closed on the rats, spamming cruise missiles and torps at them. The first wave died quickly, and from then on I just MWD'd away from the rats as they warped in, firing heavies, cruises and torps as I went.
The 650k Raid Commander bit the dust pretty easy, but the Caracals on the second wave were a hard kill. Even with torps it's like knocking down a brick wall with a foam bat at times.
My only complaint about this one is that the sheer number of missiles needed to finish it really bites a chunk out of your profit. I went through 70 cruises, 40+ torps and a couple of hundred heavies.
Maye it's time to get myself an Apoc 
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liquidozone
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Posted - 2004.09.01 20:56:00 -
[185]
This mission is so cool first time i did this i was so unprepared - was setup for long range - a fundimental flaw for this mission got to the lion and leopard and was down to 15% armor in a tempest...
has made me think about having multiple setups for dif missions now, and as someone said already, it now means having to prepare properly instead of big guns then lock, bang, collect can 
well done ccp  |

liquidozone
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Posted - 2004.09.01 20:56:00 -
[186]
This mission is so cool first time i did this i was so unprepared - was setup for long range - a fundimental flaw for this mission got to the lion and leopard and was down to 15% armor in a tempest...
has made me think about having multiple setups for dif missions now, and as someone said already, it now means having to prepare properly instead of big guns then lock, bang, collect can 
well done ccp  |

Damajink
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Posted - 2004.09.01 21:47:00 -
[187]
I got this mission today as well. Headed out in my Omen, Radio Crystals at the ready....OMGWTFPWNT in about 10 seconds flat. Went back, got my Caracal, and killed them all Had a few close calls, especially when a new wave spawned, but I got them eventually. I have to say this is probably the most difficult mission I've done - but it was also probably the most fun. Can't wait till I get an Arma in a couple of days and see how well I do them 
Nice one CCP, keep 'em coming!
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.09.01 21:47:00 -
[188]
I got this mission today as well. Headed out in my Omen, Radio Crystals at the ready....OMGWTFPWNT in about 10 seconds flat. Went back, got my Caracal, and killed them all Had a few close calls, especially when a new wave spawned, but I got them eventually. I have to say this is probably the most difficult mission I've done - but it was also probably the most fun. Can't wait till I get an Arma in a couple of days and see how well I do them 
Nice one CCP, keep 'em coming!
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Camar
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Posted - 2004.09.01 22:09:00 -
[189]
Quote: I read the first post ,and i cannot believe someone loose a domi just that easy with all the drones a domi can carry..
Actually, the first time I did this was in a dom, and almost lost it cause I ran out of shields and cap  Those drones couldn't pick em off fast enough but I managed to warp out (with all drones actually.)
It's was an AWESOME experiance that woke me up! Warp in standard at 15km, release drones, wait, warp back home.
Next time was much easier, a tip to you who still think it's too hard doing in a bs...pssst...add kinetic hardners...
Well done to those who developed this mission!
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Camar
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Posted - 2004.09.01 22:09:00 -
[190]
Quote: I read the first post ,and i cannot believe someone loose a domi just that easy with all the drones a domi can carry..
Actually, the first time I did this was in a dom, and almost lost it cause I ran out of shields and cap  Those drones couldn't pick em off fast enough but I managed to warp out (with all drones actually.)
It's was an AWESOME experiance that woke me up! Warp in standard at 15km, release drones, wait, warp back home.
Next time was much easier, a tip to you who still think it's too hard doing in a bs...pssst...add kinetic hardners...
Well done to those who developed this mission!
...and with the light all life vanished... |
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Mad Barman
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Posted - 2004.09.01 22:17:00 -
[191]
I just had this mission today. very fun!
i had read this thread b4 hand so i knew it would b a little bit difficult...i still had to warp out three times (once because i couldnt lock ne targets because of lag) i enjoyed it because it felt i was risking something with it
Just so u can all pick apart my setup i was using a typhoon with (i warp in at 15km):
3 heavy pulse lasers w/ gamma crystals (named) (i'm using lasers as there is no ammo cost and it works close range) 1 heavy beam laser w/ multifreq crystal (named) 4 heavy nosferetu large tech 2 shiled booster shield boost amp 100mn ab euctic cap recharger 1 overdrive 2 nanofibres 3 heat sink (various named) and a tracking enhancer
i did run out of cap 2 times b4 i warped out and i got down to 75% armour at one point oh and i should also mention i was using 9 hammerheads which i lost control of each time i warped out(i also lost 8 of them but i had loads of spares)
i cnt w8 for this mission again 
Im NOT addicted - It's merely a way of life |

Mad Barman
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Posted - 2004.09.01 22:17:00 -
[192]
I just had this mission today. very fun!
i had read this thread b4 hand so i knew it would b a little bit difficult...i still had to warp out three times (once because i couldnt lock ne targets because of lag) i enjoyed it because it felt i was risking something with it
Just so u can all pick apart my setup i was using a typhoon with (i warp in at 15km):
3 heavy pulse lasers w/ gamma crystals (named) (i'm using lasers as there is no ammo cost and it works close range) 1 heavy beam laser w/ multifreq crystal (named) 4 heavy nosferetu large tech 2 shiled booster shield boost amp 100mn ab euctic cap recharger 1 overdrive 2 nanofibres 3 heat sink (various named) and a tracking enhancer
i did run out of cap 2 times b4 i warped out and i got down to 75% armour at one point oh and i should also mention i was using 9 hammerheads which i lost control of each time i warped out(i also lost 8 of them but i had loads of spares)
i cnt w8 for this mission again 
Im NOT addicted - It's merely a way of life |

Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.01 23:11:00 -
[193]
omg i SO wanna get this mission and do it in a caracal! (in the 'new' blockade mission i took out three friendly friggies, 1 cruiser, and spent all my missiles on a shieldtanking bs, and still survived, hehe :) ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.01 23:11:00 -
[194]
omg i SO wanna get this mission and do it in a caracal! (in the 'new' blockade mission i took out three friendly friggies, 1 cruiser, and spent all my missiles on a shieldtanking bs, and still survived, hehe :) ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.09.01 23:32:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Phaethon on 01/09/2004 23:42:57 I just did this mission, and with all the fuss decided to come prepared for a frigate brawl. Only ship I had near was an apoc, so I loaded it up with 6 small lasers, 2 large smartbombs, and an assortment of what I could scrape together of light and medium drones.
Medium slots: mwd, large cap booster, 2 webbers (30 second cycle time is a pain) Low's 1 large armor rep. 4 15% to all energized hardeners and 2 relay's
First wave consisted of five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Iidoken. Btw this was bugged and the bp given sent me to the wrong spawn. But I happened to have bookmarked another spawn in Iidoken, and they were waiting here.
Now this fearsome armada of ships attack me and my light drones and before they are killed have taken me down to 80% shields!!!!!!! And that's with no shield booster 
They cruisers in the next spawn were a bit more of a problem as the small lasers took their time getting through them, and I had to use a 2 800 charges to keep my cap good.
Hell a Gankgeddon could have wiped the lot in 2 minutes flat without escort and a little armor dmg to repair back at base.
Can we have Zor back please?.....please? And the old infernos too. The ones that were actually dagerous, not these new neutered rats.
For anyone wanting to do this mission I recommend top end light guns or medium weapons. Drop the smartbombs, they never get that close, and your drones will suffer. Bring some webbers and a cap booster, as well as a full dronebay with light/medium drones.
I never took more dmg than the one large armor rep could repair, and I was pretty slow at killing them since the small lasers are soo.....small.
Basiclyit's all down to one thing. launch your drones first, then attack.
WTB. Infifitrator I drones |

Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.09.01 23:32:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Phaethon on 01/09/2004 23:42:57 I just did this mission, and with all the fuss decided to come prepared for a frigate brawl. Only ship I had near was an apoc, so I loaded it up with 6 small lasers, 2 large smartbombs, and an assortment of what I could scrape together of light and medium drones.
Medium slots: mwd, large cap booster, 2 webbers (30 second cycle time is a pain) Low's 1 large armor rep. 4 15% to all energized hardeners and 2 relay's
First wave consisted of five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Iidoken. Btw this was bugged and the bp given sent me to the wrong spawn. But I happened to have bookmarked another spawn in Iidoken, and they were waiting here.
Now this fearsome armada of ships attack me and my light drones and before they are killed have taken me down to 80% shields!!!!!!! And that's with no shield booster 
They cruisers in the next spawn were a bit more of a problem as the small lasers took their time getting through them, and I had to use a 2 800 charges to keep my cap good.
Hell a Gankgeddon could have wiped the lot in 2 minutes flat without escort and a little armor dmg to repair back at base.
Can we have Zor back please?.....please? And the old infernos too. The ones that were actually dagerous, not these new neutered rats.
For anyone wanting to do this mission I recommend top end light guns or medium weapons. Drop the smartbombs, they never get that close, and your drones will suffer. Bring some webbers and a cap booster, as well as a full dronebay with light/medium drones.
I never took more dmg than the one large armor rep could repair, and I was pretty slow at killing them since the small lasers are soo.....small.
Basiclyit's all down to one thing. launch your drones first, then attack.
WTB. Infifitrator I drones |

throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2004.09.01 23:38:00 -
[197]
Edited by: throbbinnoggin on 02/09/2004 00:28:52
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 20:07:02 Well...the mission bit me back :-)
As a previous mission with a lot of leftoverlootcans, a deserted wrecking-base-ish thing seemingly were eating up virtual memory, I stuttered back to the base, and accepted the mordus mossion.
I've done about 4 of em now since yesterday, in my trusty tank-a-maller.
"This stuttering wont last long..." is what I thought when exiting the station, in small hops of freezing, my hdd light flickering intensely.
Suffices to say that my lack of reservation for restarting my client was held against me not 5 minutes later, sitting in my pod 
It's quite hard to target anything if your screen keeps freezing up - and you dont really have a lot of time in the initial 5 minutes - your armor is being eaten away at amazing speeds, and the key is to eliminate damagedealers as quickly as possible.
Suffices to say I wasted valuable minutes trying to rightclick enemies in the melee of stuttering and freezups....and failed 
Now...I told myself "well you knew that on forehand, your own mistake...luckely there's nothing on your ship thats irreplaceable" . 5x Anode pulse lasers, a medium nosferatu, Large Peroxide Cap battery, Li-Fueled Booster rockets .....a recharger....and on low two small tech II armor repairers and some hardeners.
Wait.
The recharger. CRAP :) I just fitted a Eutectic 18% before starting the mission 
Haha. Suffices to say it was not in my remains... 
Oh well. That should learn me a lesson.......next time I'll just restart the client before going in :) Lazyness doesnt pay. 
Sorry to hear about the loss of your 'Duramaller' obscuroditus, but I think your attitude reflects best what others should take regarding these new missions. We mission runners now have a challenge and while I haven't had the pleasure of facing them yet (only had time for a few courier jobs from my administration agent lately) I look forward to it. There is an old saying about learning more in defeat than in victory so to all who've been 'egged' lately: wash, rinse, tweak and repeat.
BTW thanks for your thread regarding said ship. I use a Maller for lvl3 kills and enjoy seeing unconventional setups. Link below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=105858
P.S. Just got my 1st new and improved kill mission: 1 merc wingman, 3 merc elite fighters, and 1 merc commander. Definately more challenging and as others have said regarding mordus mission take out the webbing frigs 1st. I was webbed and using med size guns was completely unable to hit the wingman...at 1st. Fortunately I equip a web of my own. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
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throbbinnoggin
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Posted - 2004.09.01 23:38:00 -
[198]
Edited by: throbbinnoggin on 02/09/2004 00:28:52
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 01/09/2004 20:07:02 Well...the mission bit me back :-)
As a previous mission with a lot of leftoverlootcans, a deserted wrecking-base-ish thing seemingly were eating up virtual memory, I stuttered back to the base, and accepted the mordus mossion.
I've done about 4 of em now since yesterday, in my trusty tank-a-maller.
"This stuttering wont last long..." is what I thought when exiting the station, in small hops of freezing, my hdd light flickering intensely.
Suffices to say that my lack of reservation for restarting my client was held against me not 5 minutes later, sitting in my pod 
It's quite hard to target anything if your screen keeps freezing up - and you dont really have a lot of time in the initial 5 minutes - your armor is being eaten away at amazing speeds, and the key is to eliminate damagedealers as quickly as possible.
Suffices to say I wasted valuable minutes trying to rightclick enemies in the melee of stuttering and freezups....and failed 
Now...I told myself "well you knew that on forehand, your own mistake...luckely there's nothing on your ship thats irreplaceable" . 5x Anode pulse lasers, a medium nosferatu, Large Peroxide Cap battery, Li-Fueled Booster rockets .....a recharger....and on low two small tech II armor repairers and some hardeners.
Wait.
The recharger. CRAP :) I just fitted a Eutectic 18% before starting the mission 
Haha. Suffices to say it was not in my remains... 
Oh well. That should learn me a lesson.......next time I'll just restart the client before going in :) Lazyness doesnt pay. 
Sorry to hear about the loss of your 'Duramaller' obscuroditus, but I think your attitude reflects best what others should take regarding these new missions. We mission runners now have a challenge and while I haven't had the pleasure of facing them yet (only had time for a few courier jobs from my administration agent lately) I look forward to it. There is an old saying about learning more in defeat than in victory so to all who've been 'egged' lately: wash, rinse, tweak and repeat.
BTW thanks for your thread regarding said ship. I use a Maller for lvl3 kills and enjoy seeing unconventional setups. Link below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=105858
P.S. Just got my 1st new and improved kill mission: 1 merc wingman, 3 merc elite fighters, and 1 merc commander. Definately more challenging and as others have said regarding mordus mission take out the webbing frigs 1st. I was webbed and using med size guns was completely unable to hit the wingman...at 1st. Fortunately I equip a web of my own. Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 00:01:00 -
[199]
( Now that misson was great fun! Read about it prior to flying, but I figured what the hell, warp in at 15km in an untanked scorp. it'll be a challenge. 
5% armour, 75% structure i bugged out with 3/4 of the initial spawn dead using only 4 heavy launchers and 8 medium drones. Came back in with full armour/sheilds and splattered the rest of that spawn and the subsequent 2 waves (5 and 2) pretty easily.
Will try coming in at 60km and missile stream them next time to see if i can last the whole spawn.
More! More!  )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 00:01:00 -
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( Now that misson was great fun! Read about it prior to flying, but I figured what the hell, warp in at 15km in an untanked scorp. it'll be a challenge. 
5% armour, 75% structure i bugged out with 3/4 of the initial spawn dead using only 4 heavy launchers and 8 medium drones. Came back in with full armour/sheilds and splattered the rest of that spawn and the subsequent 2 waves (5 and 2) pretty easily.
Will try coming in at 60km and missile stream them next time to see if i can last the whole spawn.
More! More!  )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.02 01:13:00 -
[201]
Originally by: throbbinnoggin
Sorry to hear about the loss of your 'Duramaller' obscuroditus, but I think your attitude reflects best what others should take regarding these new missions. We mission runners now have a challenge and while I haven't had the pleasure of facing them yet (only had time for a few courier jobs from my administration agent lately) I look forward to it. There is an old saying about learning more in defeat than in victory so to all who've been 'egged' lately: wash, rinse, tweak and repeat.
BTW thanks for your thread regarding said ship. I use a Maller for lvl3 kills and enjoy seeing unconventional setups. Link below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=105858
P.S. Just got my 1st new and improved kill mission: 1 merc wingman, 3 merc elite fighters, and 1 merc commander. Definately more challenging and as others have said regarding mordus mission take out the webbing frigs 1st. I was webbed and using med size guns was completely unable to hit the wingman...at 1st. Fortunately I equip a web of my own.
Hehe ..no problem. I am now in "El Nariz II" , with "El Nariz" being spread out over a few lightyears of empty space earlier today. (El Nariz = The Nose).
Suffices to say I have a profound distrust of any stuttering combined with THAT specific mission from now on :S.
The duramaller design in it's basic form CAN stand up to the mission - but it's a thin line you're walking. I think its pretty unique that any Cruiser can armortank the Mordus mission - but it's not easy. You really have to pick off the frigates as fast as you can, and equip crystals that give your pulses optimal range of 8-9km.
A very secure way to do this mission I found out is by luring away the two Bounthunter webber/scramblers, pick them off quickly, and then jump in the remaining melee. The next wave and the last wave pose no threat to the maller's tanking abilities.
I think with Repairsystems Level4 (which I stopped training with 1 hour remaining - I'm afraid to disturb the delicate cap balance I found in the current Duramallersetup) the cycling times of the small repairers will have improved, and this means more armor repaired - and better tankability of the Mordus spawn.
I might give it a try - problem is, I cant go "back" - and I want a setup that can fire all weapons and run two or three hardeners + two small armor repairers indefenitly...*mutter*.
Oh well. I might give it a go soon ...if it doesnt balance out well, I have a reason to train my capskills to Level5 :)) |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.02 01:13:00 -
[202]
Originally by: throbbinnoggin
Sorry to hear about the loss of your 'Duramaller' obscuroditus, but I think your attitude reflects best what others should take regarding these new missions. We mission runners now have a challenge and while I haven't had the pleasure of facing them yet (only had time for a few courier jobs from my administration agent lately) I look forward to it. There is an old saying about learning more in defeat than in victory so to all who've been 'egged' lately: wash, rinse, tweak and repeat.
BTW thanks for your thread regarding said ship. I use a Maller for lvl3 kills and enjoy seeing unconventional setups. Link below http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=105858
P.S. Just got my 1st new and improved kill mission: 1 merc wingman, 3 merc elite fighters, and 1 merc commander. Definately more challenging and as others have said regarding mordus mission take out the webbing frigs 1st. I was webbed and using med size guns was completely unable to hit the wingman...at 1st. Fortunately I equip a web of my own.
Hehe ..no problem. I am now in "El Nariz II" , with "El Nariz" being spread out over a few lightyears of empty space earlier today. (El Nariz = The Nose).
Suffices to say I have a profound distrust of any stuttering combined with THAT specific mission from now on :S.
The duramaller design in it's basic form CAN stand up to the mission - but it's a thin line you're walking. I think its pretty unique that any Cruiser can armortank the Mordus mission - but it's not easy. You really have to pick off the frigates as fast as you can, and equip crystals that give your pulses optimal range of 8-9km.
A very secure way to do this mission I found out is by luring away the two Bounthunter webber/scramblers, pick them off quickly, and then jump in the remaining melee. The next wave and the last wave pose no threat to the maller's tanking abilities.
I think with Repairsystems Level4 (which I stopped training with 1 hour remaining - I'm afraid to disturb the delicate cap balance I found in the current Duramallersetup) the cycling times of the small repairers will have improved, and this means more armor repaired - and better tankability of the Mordus spawn.
I might give it a try - problem is, I cant go "back" - and I want a setup that can fire all weapons and run two or three hardeners + two small armor repairers indefenitly...*mutter*.
Oh well. I might give it a go soon ...if it doesnt balance out well, I have a reason to train my capskills to Level5 :)) |

Royaldo
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Posted - 2004.09.02 02:02:00 -
[203]
I think its great mission. More like missions like this!
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2004.09.02 02:02:00 -
[204]
I think its great mission. More like missions like this!
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Acid Black
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Posted - 2004.09.02 03:35:00 -
[205]
If you cant do it, dont do it... If you do it and lose your ship then its all your fault and if you have an insurrance, the loss isnt big... So stop petitioning about your loss and let people who can handle this mission, have some pleasure with some challenging missions.. (at least)
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Acid Black
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Posted - 2004.09.02 03:35:00 -
[206]
If you cant do it, dont do it... If you do it and lose your ship then its all your fault and if you have an insurrance, the loss isnt big... So stop petitioning about your loss and let people who can handle this mission, have some pleasure with some challenging missions.. (at least)
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Gail Sabin
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Posted - 2004.09.02 03:49:00 -
[207]
Well I went back in another Caracal and did it easy with MWD, never went below 50 shield.
I still think there should have been some warning about the much increased difficulty of this mission. Though its true people could have thought about the danger beforehand, the previous months and months of boring skilless missions would understandably have lulled many people into complacency.
Gail
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Gail Sabin
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Posted - 2004.09.02 03:49:00 -
[208]
Well I went back in another Caracal and did it easy with MWD, never went below 50 shield.
I still think there should have been some warning about the much increased difficulty of this mission. Though its true people could have thought about the danger beforehand, the previous months and months of boring skilless missions would understandably have lulled many people into complacency.
Gail
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Cissy
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Posted - 2004.09.02 06:10:00 -
[209]
i lost 2 bs and one mayby 2 crusers yesterday....ffs dont nervf the missions....it was a thril...once i ****** second i was just not paying atention, third i was just outgunned........if the whiner gona make ccp remove the fun missoins then im gona be sad rely sad.....it just got fun....ceep up the good work.... ____________________________________________ your logic is flawed, therfor you are flawd |

Cissy
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Posted - 2004.09.02 06:10:00 -
[210]
i lost 2 bs and one mayby 2 crusers yesterday....ffs dont nervf the missions....it was a thril...once i ****** second i was just not paying atention, third i was just outgunned........if the whiner gona make ccp remove the fun missoins then im gona be sad rely sad.....it just got fun....ceep up the good work.... ____________________________________________ your logic is flawed, therfor you are flawd |
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.09.02 07:50:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Gail Sabin I still think there should have been some warning about the much increased difficulty of this mission.
There was. It's called the Mission Briefing. Any questions concerning the enemy fleet? Visit eve-i's trusty Object Explorer for reliable intelligence.
Or don't. Because uninformed tactical decisions are likely to make things interesting. If "interesting" is your objective, that is 
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |

JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.09.02 07:50:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Gail Sabin I still think there should have been some warning about the much increased difficulty of this mission.
There was. It's called the Mission Briefing. Any questions concerning the enemy fleet? Visit eve-i's trusty Object Explorer for reliable intelligence.
Or don't. Because uninformed tactical decisions are likely to make things interesting. If "interesting" is your objective, that is 
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |

MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.02 07:58:00 -
[213]
I agree. Dont warp in of you dont know what a Mordus cheeta is or any of the others. I did that as the optimist I am asuming it was easy even tho I never seen any of those rats before. Anyway the mission is just as hard as the blockade if you do it in a caracal.
The first wave is deffinetly the hardest. Kill the Mordus mercenary first and atleast its possible to warp out. Great mission. The loot from them could have been a litle better but there was some named loot atleast :) GG CCP _____________________________________________
\o/ I got a siggy...
WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |

MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.02 07:58:00 -
[214]
I agree. Dont warp in of you dont know what a Mordus cheeta is or any of the others. I did that as the optimist I am asuming it was easy even tho I never seen any of those rats before. Anyway the mission is just as hard as the blockade if you do it in a caracal.
The first wave is deffinetly the hardest. Kill the Mordus mercenary first and atleast its possible to warp out. Great mission. The loot from them could have been a litle better but there was some named loot atleast :) GG CCP _____________________________________________
\o/ I got a siggy...
WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |

StaticW
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Posted - 2004.09.02 08:53:00 -
[215]
My 2 isk...
I loved the mission :-)
I was spanked hard, but finally I sent them all home to the cloning station.. hehe
Way to go, CCP!
And yes, warped in, took out the scrambler frigs, docked and refittet with medium guns ;)
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StaticW
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Posted - 2004.09.02 08:53:00 -
[216]
My 2 isk...
I loved the mission :-)
I was spanked hard, but finally I sent them all home to the cloning station.. hehe
Way to go, CCP!
And yes, warped in, took out the scrambler frigs, docked and refittet with medium guns ;)
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Tariq Steel
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Posted - 2004.09.02 10:58:00 -
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I survived this mission in my 'phoon. Talk about adrenaline rush! I was down to 30% hull in my armour-tanked 'phoon. But I got them all with some good loot also. 
<<Tariq Steel>> Doin' my thang with an eternity swing!
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Tariq Steel
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Posted - 2004.09.02 10:58:00 -
[218]
I survived this mission in my 'phoon. Talk about adrenaline rush! I was down to 30% hull in my armour-tanked 'phoon. But I got them all with some good loot also. 
<<Tariq Steel>> Doin' my thang with an eternity swing!
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Tikl3r
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Posted - 2004.09.02 11:24:00 -
[219]
This mission is awesome, its been along time since ive warped out of a mission to regen my armour. I want more missions like this, i think the isk could be increased as the drops sucked 
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Tikl3r
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Posted - 2004.09.02 11:24:00 -
[220]
This mission is awesome, its been along time since ive warped out of a mission to regen my armour. I want more missions like this, i think the isk could be increased as the drops sucked 
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Oosel
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Posted - 2004.09.02 12:02:00 -
[221]
i have to agree this mission is awesome although i locked the katanas before the bounty hunters which was a noobie error and i almost paid the price.......it really does seem like ccp are now allowing the really good stuff in eve to surface which is always good.....it got the same rush from this mission as i do trying to go through the heavily camped a2 in querious
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Oosel
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Posted - 2004.09.02 12:02:00 -
[222]
i have to agree this mission is awesome although i locked the katanas before the bounty hunters which was a noobie error and i almost paid the price.......it really does seem like ccp are now allowing the really good stuff in eve to surface which is always good.....it got the same rush from this mission as i do trying to go through the heavily camped a2 in querious
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2004.09.02 12:17:00 -
[223]
I took this mission on in a Rupture with my usual npc mission running setup, warp in at range, choose keep at range, lock down the target and fire all weapons. BIG MISTAKE !!!
Theres no way you can take on this mission like that. I did actually manage to take out the first wave of ships in 2 attempts but the second wave warped in way inside my optimal range and after warping in and out to get a good range for me i found they managed to close down the range to fast for me to make a kill before my shields would drop and i'd be forced to jump out again. Six times i tried to take them out but they dealt way to much damage to me to be able to stick around and eventually i had to call in a corpmate in a typhoon to finish off the mission for me 
I was actually lucky to be wearing one kinetic shield hardener and thats probably what kept my Rupture alive but you see i have a generalised setup that works for all mission rats at least up until that mission because i cant be bothered refitting my ship for each different rat i come across. I even use 2 or 3 different types of ammo in my guns because if 1 gun doesent do the job another will.
However, the next time i take that mission i'll be refitting for as much kinetic protection i can muster, maybe a mwd and shorter range guns with specific ammo in them as a long range setup wont work against these babies.
I loved this mission. Scared the hell out of me as i wasnt prepared for it and i hope it doesent get nerfed just because like me people had got lazy. Also if you'll notice this mission along with the new multiple drop off courier mission is the first step towards group missions so people should be thankful that CCP has given us the opportunity to train towards group missions before they actually appear, Next time i take this mission, i'll be looking for assistance and if this happens on a regular basis ppl will start to consider combining setups to work as a team instead of as individuals.
By all means add a warning for the unwary and lazy people, though in my opinion... job well done CCP 
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Raven Dru
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Posted - 2004.09.02 12:17:00 -
[224]
I took this mission on in a Rupture with my usual npc mission running setup, warp in at range, choose keep at range, lock down the target and fire all weapons. BIG MISTAKE !!!
Theres no way you can take on this mission like that. I did actually manage to take out the first wave of ships in 2 attempts but the second wave warped in way inside my optimal range and after warping in and out to get a good range for me i found they managed to close down the range to fast for me to make a kill before my shields would drop and i'd be forced to jump out again. Six times i tried to take them out but they dealt way to much damage to me to be able to stick around and eventually i had to call in a corpmate in a typhoon to finish off the mission for me 
I was actually lucky to be wearing one kinetic shield hardener and thats probably what kept my Rupture alive but you see i have a generalised setup that works for all mission rats at least up until that mission because i cant be bothered refitting my ship for each different rat i come across. I even use 2 or 3 different types of ammo in my guns because if 1 gun doesent do the job another will.
However, the next time i take that mission i'll be refitting for as much kinetic protection i can muster, maybe a mwd and shorter range guns with specific ammo in them as a long range setup wont work against these babies.
I loved this mission. Scared the hell out of me as i wasnt prepared for it and i hope it doesent get nerfed just because like me people had got lazy. Also if you'll notice this mission along with the new multiple drop off courier mission is the first step towards group missions so people should be thankful that CCP has given us the opportunity to train towards group missions before they actually appear, Next time i take this mission, i'll be looking for assistance and if this happens on a regular basis ppl will start to consider combining setups to work as a team instead of as individuals.
By all means add a warning for the unwary and lazy people, though in my opinion... job well done CCP 
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 12:47:00 -
[225]
I haven't tried out this mission, but I can't wait to try it (after a corp mate got wasted by it). I always carry a can that has modules for different missions, though lately, my apoc hasn't had any problems at all with all the missions types, with a kind of setup. Including is a overall armor res of 70% and a t2 med repairer (though I have to add my named large rep, I see). From the info about the rats, I see that a high thermal/kinetic res, you will be pretty safe.
My question is, will a (four actually) Heavy Modal Blaster I with a tracking computer II and a webifier be able to take out those intys? And what range does the ships orbit at? I read optimal range for most of the ships on eve-i (as eve-db isn't updated yet) but will the Lion (as an example) move out of it's 17.5km optimal range? I have 4 blasters for range between 0-10km and 4 heavy pulses for ranges from 10km to about 30km. But optimal is about 7.5km and 15km for the two types of guns. (considering tracking, damage types etc).
Though I'm missing the missile launch rate on eve-i (it's featured on eve-db). Is it so bad that I need sb's/defenders or is a good tanking enough to take the beatdown?
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 12:47:00 -
[226]
I haven't tried out this mission, but I can't wait to try it (after a corp mate got wasted by it). I always carry a can that has modules for different missions, though lately, my apoc hasn't had any problems at all with all the missions types, with a kind of setup. Including is a overall armor res of 70% and a t2 med repairer (though I have to add my named large rep, I see). From the info about the rats, I see that a high thermal/kinetic res, you will be pretty safe.
My question is, will a (four actually) Heavy Modal Blaster I with a tracking computer II and a webifier be able to take out those intys? And what range does the ships orbit at? I read optimal range for most of the ships on eve-i (as eve-db isn't updated yet) but will the Lion (as an example) move out of it's 17.5km optimal range? I have 4 blasters for range between 0-10km and 4 heavy pulses for ranges from 10km to about 30km. But optimal is about 7.5km and 15km for the two types of guns. (considering tracking, damage types etc).
Though I'm missing the missile launch rate on eve-i (it's featured on eve-db). Is it so bad that I need sb's/defenders or is a good tanking enough to take the beatdown?
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:09:00 -
[227]
I had this mordus mission get me yesterday. I was flying a drone cruiser for this job and didnt had much of a trouble so far. Having never met the mordus guys before (I READ the mission description to see what to kill) I thought bunch of frigates and 1-2 cruisers, shouldnt be much of a problem, as I saw what was waiting for me , I turned around and clicked warp to station, but it was already too late cause the 2 bounty hunters had already closed the distance very fast. I launch all my drones on a suicide mission to save the ship, though they couldnt place reasonable hits to kill them and then the rest of the "guests" arrive putting me into a pod.
Later in the evening a corp mate gets his moa and me in my malediction, I start diverting missile fire (though I suspect he could also do it without my help) and he starts slicing and dicing them up; finally I come to this conclusion that it isnt so difficult if I knew what was awaiting me.
Most of the time my agent tells me "be careful this can be a difficult mission" and what I get is to vaporise some frigates, so please dont expect me to listen to that guy. I wished we were warned before about this mission in the ingame news ("New agent mission added, it might prove to be difficult for some, be careful, etc").
Finally, I really pity those who lost a battleship over this, and thank god I only lost a couple million cruiser (I could retrieve some of my named modules, and that was actually my main concern). I sure wont accept this mission in the future as the reward is an insult; 300k-400k, what the?
Intercepting since BETA |

Kunming
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:09:00 -
[228]
I had this mordus mission get me yesterday. I was flying a drone cruiser for this job and didnt had much of a trouble so far. Having never met the mordus guys before (I READ the mission description to see what to kill) I thought bunch of frigates and 1-2 cruisers, shouldnt be much of a problem, as I saw what was waiting for me , I turned around and clicked warp to station, but it was already too late cause the 2 bounty hunters had already closed the distance very fast. I launch all my drones on a suicide mission to save the ship, though they couldnt place reasonable hits to kill them and then the rest of the "guests" arrive putting me into a pod.
Later in the evening a corp mate gets his moa and me in my malediction, I start diverting missile fire (though I suspect he could also do it without my help) and he starts slicing and dicing them up; finally I come to this conclusion that it isnt so difficult if I knew what was awaiting me.
Most of the time my agent tells me "be careful this can be a difficult mission" and what I get is to vaporise some frigates, so please dont expect me to listen to that guy. I wished we were warned before about this mission in the ingame news ("New agent mission added, it might prove to be difficult for some, be careful, etc").
Finally, I really pity those who lost a battleship over this, and thank god I only lost a couple million cruiser (I could retrieve some of my named modules, and that was actually my main concern). I sure wont accept this mission in the future as the reward is an insult; 300k-400k, what the?
Intercepting since BETA |

Diana Merris
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:19:00 -
[229]
Raven, the Rupture would do much better if it was armor tanked. You have to rely on your heavy launchers for firepower of course because you won't be able to put 4x 720s on with armor tanking but the launchers do more damage anyway.
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Diana Merris
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:19:00 -
[230]
Raven, the Rupture would do much better if it was armor tanked. You have to rely on your heavy launchers for firepower of course because you won't be able to put 4x 720s on with armor tanking but the launchers do more damage anyway.
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Oosel
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:22:00 -
[231]
watch out if you turn away from these guys and start launching defenders at them defenders really do slow you down when u launch them
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Oosel
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:22:00 -
[232]
watch out if you turn away from these guys and start launching defenders at them defenders really do slow you down when u launch them
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:46:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Kunming
Most of the time my agent tells me "be careful this can be a difficult mission" and what I get is to vaporise some frigates, so please dont expect me to listen to that guy. I wished we were warned before about this mission in the ingame news ("New agent mission added, it might prove to be difficult for some, be careful, etc").
I've noticed that too. "Thank god! I didn't think you would come back alive" after ganking a 30k cruiser and some frigates. The warning shouldn't be given unless it's difficult for it's level or it's at the start of some tutorial line of missions.
About the news, I think the forum is news enough. I think that is how it should be played. At the most some warnings that some type of rats have appeared and agents are sorting them out by sending their best agent runners to deal with them, but how do you know if a street is dangerous in a city? Word of mouth of course..!
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:46:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Kunming
Most of the time my agent tells me "be careful this can be a difficult mission" and what I get is to vaporise some frigates, so please dont expect me to listen to that guy. I wished we were warned before about this mission in the ingame news ("New agent mission added, it might prove to be difficult for some, be careful, etc").
I've noticed that too. "Thank god! I didn't think you would come back alive" after ganking a 30k cruiser and some frigates. The warning shouldn't be given unless it's difficult for it's level or it's at the start of some tutorial line of missions.
About the news, I think the forum is news enough. I think that is how it should be played. At the most some warnings that some type of rats have appeared and agents are sorting them out by sending their best agent runners to deal with them, but how do you know if a street is dangerous in a city? Word of mouth of course..!
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Karakaran
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:55:00 -
[235]
for chrissakes, it gives you the warning at the bottom of the description. it isnt hard ffs
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Karakaran
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Posted - 2004.09.02 13:55:00 -
[236]
for chrissakes, it gives you the warning at the bottom of the description. it isnt hard ffs
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Prothos
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Posted - 2004.09.02 14:01:00 -
[237]
Edited by: Prothos on 02/09/2004 14:04:00 I like the mission. I have done it 3 times now in a caracal. i lost all shields and ran out of missles the first time a and had to dock to get more ammo. The 2nd time i came in with 500 scourge missles and completed it with no shield damage. 3rd time lost all shields and small amount of armour but that was due to lag. i warped in at 60k range, lagged the next thing i knew i had 3 ships at 9k range and no shileds. i warped out repaired and returned to complete the mission. I use a caracal 5 named heavy's firing scourge missles cruser skill is at lvl4 and i was hitting them at 60k+ range 10mn mwd named shield recharger named reactor recharger warp stab. ballistic control
i found the key for me is keeping the range
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Prothos
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Posted - 2004.09.02 14:01:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Prothos on 02/09/2004 14:04:00 I like the mission. I have done it 3 times now in a caracal. i lost all shields and ran out of missles the first time a and had to dock to get more ammo. The 2nd time i came in with 500 scourge missles and completed it with no shield damage. 3rd time lost all shields and small amount of armour but that was due to lag. i warped in at 60k range, lagged the next thing i knew i had 3 ships at 9k range and no shileds. i warped out repaired and returned to complete the mission. I use a caracal 5 named heavy's firing scourge missles cruser skill is at lvl4 and i was hitting them at 60k+ range 10mn mwd named shield recharger named reactor recharger warp stab. ballistic control
i found the key for me is keeping the range
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Giordino
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Posted - 2004.09.02 14:18:00 -
[239]
Edited by: Giordino on 02/09/2004 14:19:58 I myself have done the mission, LOVED IT, want more of missions like that and hope more is to come. I have only played EVE for 1 month and really didnt have a problem with it. Hope all the whinning doesnt change the mission. As to not having a warning about it, thats the whole point, Suprise!!!! If i had lost my raven, i would be blaming myself not CCP, just as i blamed myself for loosing 4 other ships on missions, period.
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Giordino
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Posted - 2004.09.02 14:18:00 -
[240]
Edited by: Giordino on 02/09/2004 14:19:58 I myself have done the mission, LOVED IT, want more of missions like that and hope more is to come. I have only played EVE for 1 month and really didnt have a problem with it. Hope all the whinning doesnt change the mission. As to not having a warning about it, thats the whole point, Suprise!!!! If i had lost my raven, i would be blaming myself not CCP, just as i blamed myself for loosing 4 other ships on missions, period.
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Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.09.02 14:19:00 -
[241]
What an amazing shock this mission was for me. Too long had I chewed complacently through missions. This one woke me up and CCP owes me some new underwear!
Normally, Level 3 mission rats rarely even get close enough to do 1% shield damage. But 50% armor damage too? Holy crap!
When I finally realized that there were 2 Inteceptors in the cloud of Mordus, it was too late. They were at 25 km out and closing at 1,500km/s.
Hands shaking and sweaty, I threw the cat of my lap. Things were serious and she knew it.
I turned my ship about trying to get some distance between me and the main pack. By then, the Inty's were too close to you my Megapulses on and the cat was scratching at the Couch... What could I do? My Apoc cost me a hell of a lot more than that cushiony peice of crap.
Light missiles were crashing against my hull. My Capacitors were draining and I wasn't going anywhere.
RELEASE theDRONES! 6 Ogres leapt from their bay going after the Interceptor a scant 8 kilometers away. I prayed. Hurry, my little Ogres, or you won't have a ship to return to.
My Wallet flashed, a second later, the first Interceptor exploded. A moment after that, my shields failed.
The Mordus Cruisers were now within range and their escorting Frigate were coming in quick . We traded shots as I watched the second Inteceptor keep firing missile after missile at me. My Ogres, Unionized since Spring, were discussing attacking it. I promised wage hikes; they demanded shorter work days. They had me by my reproductive organs, so I relented.
Finally, it was over. The Ogres did the last interceptor, I killed the cruisers and frigates and the Cat rubbed itself against the now exposed wood frame of the couch.
An embarrassing victory but what a fight!
Keep em coming CCP, but may I suggest:
In the mission briefing, make a few random ones that gives the pilot absolutely no warning, because even though I was caught with my pants down, Mordus Headhunters as the title did give me an indication that something new was afoot...I just choose to ignore the warnings. ______________ "I Type with my Tongue" |

Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.09.02 14:19:00 -
[242]
What an amazing shock this mission was for me. Too long had I chewed complacently through missions. This one woke me up and CCP owes me some new underwear!
Normally, Level 3 mission rats rarely even get close enough to do 1% shield damage. But 50% armor damage too? Holy crap!
When I finally realized that there were 2 Inteceptors in the cloud of Mordus, it was too late. They were at 25 km out and closing at 1,500km/s.
Hands shaking and sweaty, I threw the cat of my lap. Things were serious and she knew it.
I turned my ship about trying to get some distance between me and the main pack. By then, the Inty's were too close to you my Megapulses on and the cat was scratching at the Couch... What could I do? My Apoc cost me a hell of a lot more than that cushiony peice of crap.
Light missiles were crashing against my hull. My Capacitors were draining and I wasn't going anywhere.
RELEASE theDRONES! 6 Ogres leapt from their bay going after the Interceptor a scant 8 kilometers away. I prayed. Hurry, my little Ogres, or you won't have a ship to return to.
My Wallet flashed, a second later, the first Interceptor exploded. A moment after that, my shields failed.
The Mordus Cruisers were now within range and their escorting Frigate were coming in quick . We traded shots as I watched the second Inteceptor keep firing missile after missile at me. My Ogres, Unionized since Spring, were discussing attacking it. I promised wage hikes; they demanded shorter work days. They had me by my reproductive organs, so I relented.
Finally, it was over. The Ogres did the last interceptor, I killed the cruisers and frigates and the Cat rubbed itself against the now exposed wood frame of the couch.
An embarrassing victory but what a fight!
Keep em coming CCP, but may I suggest:
In the mission briefing, make a few random ones that gives the pilot absolutely no warning, because even though I was caught with my pants down, Mordus Headhunters as the title did give me an indication that something new was afoot...I just choose to ignore the warnings. ______________ "I Type with my Tongue" |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.02 15:04:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Wyckoff My Ogres, Unionized since Spring, were discussing attacking it. I promised wage hikes; they demanded shorter work days. They had me by my reproductive organs, so I relented.
ROFL! ROFL !   |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.02 15:04:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Wyckoff My Ogres, Unionized since Spring, were discussing attacking it. I promised wage hikes; they demanded shorter work days. They had me by my reproductive organs, so I relented.
ROFL! ROFL !   |

Giordino
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Posted - 2004.09.02 15:20:00 -
[245]
LOL I read this 20 minutes ago and i still keep laughing, good post mate.   
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Giordino
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Posted - 2004.09.02 15:20:00 -
[246]
LOL I read this 20 minutes ago and i still keep laughing, good post mate.   
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Diicc Tater
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Posted - 2004.09.02 15:38:00 -
[247]
Now YOU owe ME a new keyboard.... Dag Namit man!
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Diicc Tater
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Posted - 2004.09.02 15:38:00 -
[248]
Now YOU owe ME a new keyboard.... Dag Namit man!
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Sirilius
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Posted - 2004.09.02 16:19:00 -
[249]
lol Wyck :) We should take on them BS in the revived sabotaged mission later when ya log on mate ^_^
I have yet to encounter this mission, but from what ya'll are posting, I can hardly wait :D I just hope my caracal pulls through for me.
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Sirilius
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Posted - 2004.09.02 16:19:00 -
[250]
lol Wyck :) We should take on them BS in the revived sabotaged mission later when ya log on mate ^_^
I have yet to encounter this mission, but from what ya'll are posting, I can hardly wait :D I just hope my caracal pulls through for me.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.02 16:24:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Sirilius lol Wyck :) We should take on them BS in the revived sabotaged mission later when ya log on mate ^_^
I have yet to encounter this mission, but from what ya'll are posting, I can hardly wait :D I just hope my caracal pulls through for me.
Just have a BM for a Safe Spot....and take out the Ceptors first...a WCS might be a good idea...
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.02 16:24:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Sirilius lol Wyck :) We should take on them BS in the revived sabotaged mission later when ya log on mate ^_^
I have yet to encounter this mission, but from what ya'll are posting, I can hardly wait :D I just hope my caracal pulls through for me.
Just have a BM for a Safe Spot....and take out the Ceptors first...a WCS might be a good idea...
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CaptianBlack
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Posted - 2004.09.02 18:48:00 -
[253]
WTG CCP... finally a mission that challenges every aspect of the game.... i have done the mission twice now and almost lost my Apoc both times.... i warped out both times with less than 40% hull left, ship ablaze and thinking it's time to change my pants.... it certainly made a big difference to the normal so and so missions where you pop 5 rats without even getting a scratch... so CCP i salute you.. and keep up the suprizes
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CaptianBlack
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Posted - 2004.09.02 18:48:00 -
[254]
WTG CCP... finally a mission that challenges every aspect of the game.... i have done the mission twice now and almost lost my Apoc both times.... i warped out both times with less than 40% hull left, ship ablaze and thinking it's time to change my pants.... it certainly made a big difference to the normal so and so missions where you pop 5 rats without even getting a scratch... so CCP i salute you.. and keep up the suprizes
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.09.02 19:20:00 -
[255]
Right now, as I'm typing this (because it's taking a while), I'm beating the level 3 variant of the Mordu mission with a KESTRAL.
I will admit it was a little tough in my Taranis (no range to take out the webbies before they jumped me), however, if you even remotely have your wits about you it is a cake walk.
Hi Slots: 4 Standard Launchers (with Bloodclaws) Med Slots: 1 x 10MN Afterburner, 1 x 1MN Afterburner, 1 Cap Recharger I Low: 2 x Micro Auxilary Powercores
Nothing fancy, just kill the webbers at max range, then orbit at 10km and melt.
... That's when I reach for my revolver ... |

Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.09.02 19:20:00 -
[256]
Right now, as I'm typing this (because it's taking a while), I'm beating the level 3 variant of the Mordu mission with a KESTRAL.
I will admit it was a little tough in my Taranis (no range to take out the webbies before they jumped me), however, if you even remotely have your wits about you it is a cake walk.
Hi Slots: 4 Standard Launchers (with Bloodclaws) Med Slots: 1 x 10MN Afterburner, 1 x 1MN Afterburner, 1 Cap Recharger I Low: 2 x Micro Auxilary Powercores
Nothing fancy, just kill the webbers at max range, then orbit at 10km and melt.
... That's when I reach for my revolver ... |

Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.02 19:51:00 -
[257]
Does the 10mn AB and 1 MN AB make a big diffrence?
Never tried it...
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.02 19:51:00 -
[258]
Does the 10mn AB and 1 MN AB make a big diffrence?
Never tried it...
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Ambitio
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Posted - 2004.09.02 20:25:00 -
[259]
I have done this mission twice in a Rupture now and i really like it. But a warning label is a good idea, but dont start putting warnings on every other mission. That will just make everyone dont care about the warning. I didnt really have any big problems with this mission because i am always very careful with missions that i havent seen before. It was quite a suprise when some of the rats closed in on me at 1300 m/s or more. Good thing i had a microwarpdrive. If they had caught me then i probably wouldnt have lasted long.
I would love to see alot more missions like this. I would also like alot harder missions than this, i think and hope they will come with Shiva.
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Ambitio
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Posted - 2004.09.02 20:25:00 -
[260]
I have done this mission twice in a Rupture now and i really like it. But a warning label is a good idea, but dont start putting warnings on every other mission. That will just make everyone dont care about the warning. I didnt really have any big problems with this mission because i am always very careful with missions that i havent seen before. It was quite a suprise when some of the rats closed in on me at 1300 m/s or more. Good thing i had a microwarpdrive. If they had caught me then i probably wouldnt have lasted long.
I would love to see alot more missions like this. I would also like alot harder missions than this, i think and hope they will come with Shiva.
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PaulLRyan
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Posted - 2004.09.02 20:57:00 -
[261]
MORDUS mission completed.
They ate my claw    
So my Scorp cruised them to death in retaliation.
Great mission - Love it - more like it please
PL ===============================================
2004.07.04 20:52:32 combat Your 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon perfectly strikes Blood Raider, wrecking for 417.6 damage.
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PaulLRyan
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Posted - 2004.09.02 20:57:00 -
[262]
MORDUS mission completed.
They ate my claw    
So my Scorp cruised them to death in retaliation.
Great mission - Love it - more like it please
PL ===============================================
2004.07.04 20:52:32 combat Your 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon perfectly strikes Blood Raider, wrecking for 417.6 damage.
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Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.09.02 21:00:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Vigilant Does the 10mn AB and 1 MN AB make a big diffrence?
Never tried it...
Every little bit helps when they are trying to dual web you. Plus with this set-up you are just fast enough to maneuver and outrun the missiles they send after you.
... That's when I reach for my revolver ... |

Lhyda Souljacker
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Posted - 2004.09.02 21:00:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Vigilant Does the 10mn AB and 1 MN AB make a big diffrence?
Never tried it...
Every little bit helps when they are trying to dual web you. Plus with this set-up you are just fast enough to maneuver and outrun the missiles they send after you.
... That's when I reach for my revolver ... |

Gundahar
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Posted - 2004.09.02 21:33:00 -
[265]
had some probs with the Geddon, but nothing 2 "Medium" Accomo Repairs cant handle,
as soon as i got webbed, i just parked the geddon, unleashed the drones, targeted the cruisers and acted as a Gun Platform, with the drones hitting the inty's
came out with 70% armour, and 6% cap and thats with the 650k guy at the end, so yah this mission is fine :D
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Gundahar
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Posted - 2004.09.02 21:33:00 -
[266]
had some probs with the Geddon, but nothing 2 "Medium" Accomo Repairs cant handle,
as soon as i got webbed, i just parked the geddon, unleashed the drones, targeted the cruisers and acted as a Gun Platform, with the drones hitting the inty's
came out with 70% armour, and 6% cap and thats with the 650k guy at the end, so yah this mission is fine :D
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 21:45:00 -
[267]
Just did it today, and I admit, I was pretty excited when I flew into battle (warp to 15km as usual) and I was shivering the whole battle (No warp core stabs! Of course, it's extra scary when you are seeing your shield drop from 100 to 0% in about 5 seconds. And you are flying a battleship.
The first wave was the worst. I targeted the Mercenaries first and put them out of action with my blasters and heavy drones. Then just took whatever was targeted next. The second and third wave is pretty easy. I didn't get the 600k rat though. My tank was so sufficient for this mission, that I could let the t2 med repairer go on auto and the armor almost never left 100%. The large was good in the beginning while I was still pounded on by everything, just for self esteem.
My setup was my Megathron with some named med blasters, named med pulse lasers and an assault launcher with defenders. Med: two named cap rechargers, a mwd and a webber (for the intys). Low: a large named armor repairer, a med t2 armor repairer, two cap relays and 2 thermic hardeners and one kinetic (79% and 65% resistance approx). And 10 wasps/ogre drones.
For you that decide to try it out: Good luck!
Thanks CCP for making a new and very good mission. Though like it's said, a good warning would have been nice. Not everyone reads the forums all the time. (Like the ranters in the beginning of this thread).
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.02 21:45:00 -
[268]
Just did it today, and I admit, I was pretty excited when I flew into battle (warp to 15km as usual) and I was shivering the whole battle (No warp core stabs! Of course, it's extra scary when you are seeing your shield drop from 100 to 0% in about 5 seconds. And you are flying a battleship.
The first wave was the worst. I targeted the Mercenaries first and put them out of action with my blasters and heavy drones. Then just took whatever was targeted next. The second and third wave is pretty easy. I didn't get the 600k rat though. My tank was so sufficient for this mission, that I could let the t2 med repairer go on auto and the armor almost never left 100%. The large was good in the beginning while I was still pounded on by everything, just for self esteem.
My setup was my Megathron with some named med blasters, named med pulse lasers and an assault launcher with defenders. Med: two named cap rechargers, a mwd and a webber (for the intys). Low: a large named armor repairer, a med t2 armor repairer, two cap relays and 2 thermic hardeners and one kinetic (79% and 65% resistance approx). And 10 wasps/ogre drones.
For you that decide to try it out: Good luck!
Thanks CCP for making a new and very good mission. Though like it's said, a good warning would have been nice. Not everyone reads the forums all the time. (Like the ranters in the beginning of this thread).
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.02 22:46:00 -
[269]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 02/09/2004 22:48:12
Originally by: Chepe Nolon ....and 2 thermic hardeners and one kinetic (79% and 65% resistance approx)....
Just a small word of advice for people reading your setup - this is not the optimal setup :) On your ship it doesnt really matter since you had plenty of repairing power - but on cruisers and more tip-toed tankers you'll see that the maximum benefit is not in fitting two thermal hardeners.
Why you ask? Well, they shoot Scourge and bloodclaw missiles (kinetic), and they do thermal/kinetic damage with about 10-15% more kinetic damage done then thermal by their railguns. Also most ships natural resistance for thermal is higher then it is for kinetic - but this differs per shiptype.
So all in all, the kinetic dmg resistance should be boosted higher then the thermal - because thats where you'll be getting the most damage. On your setup obviously not so relevant :-) |

obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.02 22:46:00 -
[270]
Edited by: obscuroditus on 02/09/2004 22:48:12
Originally by: Chepe Nolon ....and 2 thermic hardeners and one kinetic (79% and 65% resistance approx)....
Just a small word of advice for people reading your setup - this is not the optimal setup :) On your ship it doesnt really matter since you had plenty of repairing power - but on cruisers and more tip-toed tankers you'll see that the maximum benefit is not in fitting two thermal hardeners.
Why you ask? Well, they shoot Scourge and bloodclaw missiles (kinetic), and they do thermal/kinetic damage with about 10-15% more kinetic damage done then thermal by their railguns. Also most ships natural resistance for thermal is higher then it is for kinetic - but this differs per shiptype.
So all in all, the kinetic dmg resistance should be boosted higher then the thermal - because thats where you'll be getting the most damage. On your setup obviously not so relevant :-) |
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.09.02 22:49:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Lhyda Souljacker Right now, as I'm typing this (because it's taking a while), I'm beating the level 3 variant of the Mordu mission with a KESTRAL.
I will admit it was a little tough in my Taranis (no range to take out the webbies before they jumped me), however, if you even remotely have your wits about you it is a cake walk.
Hi Slots: 4 Standard Launchers (with Bloodclaws) Med Slots: 1 x 10MN Afterburner, 1 x 1MN Afterburner, 1 Cap Recharger I Low: 2 x Micro Auxilary Powercores
Nothing fancy, just kill the webbers at max range, then orbit at 10km and melt.
I bow to you......I have much to learn Mistress....I loved the mission but lost my Crow. I survived the first webbing and got a bit*****y I Guess ....My wits failed me. But it will be done ....If a Kessy can ...I WILL :)......Great Mission anyways a nice challenege.
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

OFFT
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Posted - 2004.09.02 22:49:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Lhyda Souljacker Right now, as I'm typing this (because it's taking a while), I'm beating the level 3 variant of the Mordu mission with a KESTRAL.
I will admit it was a little tough in my Taranis (no range to take out the webbies before they jumped me), however, if you even remotely have your wits about you it is a cake walk.
Hi Slots: 4 Standard Launchers (with Bloodclaws) Med Slots: 1 x 10MN Afterburner, 1 x 1MN Afterburner, 1 Cap Recharger I Low: 2 x Micro Auxilary Powercores
Nothing fancy, just kill the webbers at max range, then orbit at 10km and melt.
I bow to you......I have much to learn Mistress....I loved the mission but lost my Crow. I survived the first webbing and got a bit*****y I Guess ....My wits failed me. But it will be done ....If a Kessy can ...I WILL :)......Great Mission anyways a nice challenege.
OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

Levka
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Posted - 2004.09.03 00:07:00 -
[273]
Edited by: Levka on 03/09/2004 00:10:28 Well after i lost my Caracal eralier today i decided to get another one and try this missions yet again, but this time with different setup. All i really had to change is add a 10mn MWD and WCS.
Overall, mission is not hard as long as you got MWD on...Scourge will take care of the rest..
However i was dissapointed with the loot i got......not 1 named item. All i got is some ammo and cpacitor boosters.
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Levka
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Posted - 2004.09.03 00:07:00 -
[274]
Edited by: Levka on 03/09/2004 00:10:28 Well after i lost my Caracal eralier today i decided to get another one and try this missions yet again, but this time with different setup. All i really had to change is add a 10mn MWD and WCS.
Overall, mission is not hard as long as you got MWD on...Scourge will take care of the rest..
However i was dissapointed with the loot i got......not 1 named item. All i got is some ammo and cpacitor boosters.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.03 00:32:00 -
[275]
This was THE best mission i've ever had! MORE!!! MOOOOREEEEE!!!! ahh, anyway, just finished it in a caracal, and loved every second of it!  ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.03 00:32:00 -
[276]
This was THE best mission i've ever had! MORE!!! MOOOOREEEEE!!!! ahh, anyway, just finished it in a caracal, and loved every second of it!  ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Jerrod Syn
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Posted - 2004.09.03 01:20:00 -
[277]
Edited by: Jerrod Syn on 03/09/2004 01:22:01 I got a Mordus mission last night from my L2 Int Sec agent. I've been easily taking out the L2 kill missions without breaking a sweat in my Moa.
Normally my shields don't even get touched, since the way I'm outfitted, I can lock and beat them from 60+K out, with 2 heavy launchers IN CASE they get close. By the time the third wave came in, They WERE close!
The last spawn came in under 10K and closed fast from there! With Caldari Cruiser 4, my shield booster kept me above water, but even setting that to auto, I barely killed the last one before I ran out of cap.
Whew! I wasn't expecting THAT! Great work! 
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Jerrod Syn
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Posted - 2004.09.03 01:20:00 -
[278]
Edited by: Jerrod Syn on 03/09/2004 01:22:01 I got a Mordus mission last night from my L2 Int Sec agent. I've been easily taking out the L2 kill missions without breaking a sweat in my Moa.
Normally my shields don't even get touched, since the way I'm outfitted, I can lock and beat them from 60+K out, with 2 heavy launchers IN CASE they get close. By the time the third wave came in, They WERE close!
The last spawn came in under 10K and closed fast from there! With Caldari Cruiser 4, my shield booster kept me above water, but even setting that to auto, I barely killed the last one before I ran out of cap.
Whew! I wasn't expecting THAT! Great work! 
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Hido
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Posted - 2004.09.03 02:19:00 -
[279]
Got my first Mordus mission yesterday. 
The only thing I can say about the mission was that I enjoyed it a lot. I think it was one of the only missions that I find to be a real challenge and right before the fireworks stopped ended up getting a 650k Commander which I turned into space dust fast enough with my Dominix.
Was not the greatest in l00t but had fun and made some cash while at it so no complaints. The only thing now is I wish I could get my hands on some Mordus Faction ships cause they are uber cool!
All in all good job CCP and better luck next time for you guys who are not able to deal with this mission. Remember never to bite off more then you can swollow and also unless you can afford to loose a BS don't fly one. 
By the way is there no Mordus faction l00t that drops from these ships? I would really like to get my hands on some of there gear.
Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun |

Hido
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Posted - 2004.09.03 02:19:00 -
[280]
Got my first Mordus mission yesterday. 
The only thing I can say about the mission was that I enjoyed it a lot. I think it was one of the only missions that I find to be a real challenge and right before the fireworks stopped ended up getting a 650k Commander which I turned into space dust fast enough with my Dominix.
Was not the greatest in l00t but had fun and made some cash while at it so no complaints. The only thing now is I wish I could get my hands on some Mordus Faction ships cause they are uber cool!
All in all good job CCP and better luck next time for you guys who are not able to deal with this mission. Remember never to bite off more then you can swollow and also unless you can afford to loose a BS don't fly one. 
By the way is there no Mordus faction l00t that drops from these ships? I would really like to get my hands on some of there gear.
Living the life Havin it large Welcome to the land of the rising sun |
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.09.03 06:00:00 -
[281]
add 1 more to the death list. I shall dream of you, Apoc. ----------------------------------------------
[apparent-dreams.com] |

Bedrock
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Posted - 2004.09.03 06:00:00 -
[282]
add 1 more to the death list. I shall dream of you, Apoc. ----------------------------------------------
[apparent-dreams.com] |

Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.03 06:29:00 -
[283]
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 02/09/2004 22:48:12
Originally by: Chepe Nolon ....and 2 thermic hardeners and one kinetic (79% and 65% resistance approx)....
Just a small word of advice for people reading your setup - this is not the optimal setup :) On your ship it doesnt really matter since you had plenty of repairing power - but on cruisers and more tip-toed tankers you'll see that the maximum benefit is not in fitting two thermal hardeners.
Why you ask? Well, they shoot Scourge and bloodclaw missiles (kinetic), and they do thermal/kinetic damage with about 10-15% more kinetic damage done then thermal by their railguns. Also most ships natural resistance for thermal is higher then it is for kinetic - but this differs per shiptype.
So all in all, the kinetic dmg resistance should be boosted higher then the thermal - because thats where you'll be getting the most damage. On your setup obviously not so relevant :-)
I thought of dropping the thermal for another cap relay, but I wanted to be on the safe side the first time. I didn't read to closely which ship that launched what, so I just figured that another thermal would prolly cut off another 20% of effective damage, if the damage was 50/50 kinetic-thermal. If I'm carrying two of a kind now, I guess I'll go for 2x kinetic instead. But I think the second one will be replaced by another cap relay for optimal repairing power.
And the Mega (and the rest of the t1 gallente ships?) has 35% kinetic and thermal resistance to armor.
Thanks for the tip though! 
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.09.03 06:29:00 -
[284]
Originally by: obscuroditus Edited by: obscuroditus on 02/09/2004 22:48:12
Originally by: Chepe Nolon ....and 2 thermic hardeners and one kinetic (79% and 65% resistance approx)....
Just a small word of advice for people reading your setup - this is not the optimal setup :) On your ship it doesnt really matter since you had plenty of repairing power - but on cruisers and more tip-toed tankers you'll see that the maximum benefit is not in fitting two thermal hardeners.
Why you ask? Well, they shoot Scourge and bloodclaw missiles (kinetic), and they do thermal/kinetic damage with about 10-15% more kinetic damage done then thermal by their railguns. Also most ships natural resistance for thermal is higher then it is for kinetic - but this differs per shiptype.
So all in all, the kinetic dmg resistance should be boosted higher then the thermal - because thats where you'll be getting the most damage. On your setup obviously not so relevant :-)
I thought of dropping the thermal for another cap relay, but I wanted to be on the safe side the first time. I didn't read to closely which ship that launched what, so I just figured that another thermal would prolly cut off another 20% of effective damage, if the damage was 50/50 kinetic-thermal. If I'm carrying two of a kind now, I guess I'll go for 2x kinetic instead. But I think the second one will be replaced by another cap relay for optimal repairing power.
And the Mega (and the rest of the t1 gallente ships?) has 35% kinetic and thermal resistance to armor.
Thanks for the tip though! 
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.09.03 06:50:00 -
[285]
Edited by: JP Beauregard on 03/09/2004 06:51:47
Originally by: Lhyda Souljacker Right now, as I'm typing this (because it's taking a while), I'm beating the level 3 variant of the Mordu mission with a KESTRAL.
Way to go. Just a wee bit too flimsy for my tastes and it sounds like an awful lot of clicking, given EVE's clumsy in-space navigation model.
I'm assuming you beat the incoming heavy missile spam with sheer speed because the Kestrel doesn't allow you to use drones as bait? Would love to see a demonstration...
JP Beauregard
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.09.03 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: JP Beauregard on 03/09/2004 06:51:47
Originally by: Lhyda Souljacker Right now, as I'm typing this (because it's taking a while), I'm beating the level 3 variant of the Mordu mission with a KESTRAL.
Way to go. Just a wee bit too flimsy for my tastes and it sounds like an awful lot of clicking, given EVE's clumsy in-space navigation model.
I'm assuming you beat the incoming heavy missile spam with sheer speed because the Kestrel doesn't allow you to use drones as bait? Would love to see a demonstration...
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |

Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.09.03 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
3 cheers for Oveur!
This mission brought back the feeling of "oooh-oh" that I had when we were sitting in rifters, fighting endless belt spawns of nomads and raiders who chased us and forced us to develop tactics. Looking forward to level 4 missions.
To those who have trouble with this type of mission: Team up!
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Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.09.03 08:35:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Oveur This excellent mission will remain as it is, it will however have a more prominent warning that it is actually hard. Probably in big red letters for those that dont bother to read the mission descriptions 
If you feel you have been treated unfairly with insufficient mission description and consider this far to and it cramps your style, feel free to contact customer support. They will investigate the matter and see if your claims is valid 
You will see more challenging (read: Hard) missions that are not a walk in the park. They of course give bigger reward instead.
Agent missions aren't supposed to be all predictable and harmless. I think we all agree about that. Even the people that loose the ships thought it was fun, apart from loosing the ship of course.
Oh, and if you think these missions are hard, just wait till you get to lvl 4 
3 cheers for Oveur!
This mission brought back the feeling of "oooh-oh" that I had when we were sitting in rifters, fighting endless belt spawns of nomads and raiders who chased us and forced us to develop tactics. Looking forward to level 4 missions.
To those who have trouble with this type of mission: Team up!
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Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Khyle
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Posted - 2004.09.03 09:22:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Khyle on 03/09/2004 09:47:08 Edited by: Khyle on 03/09/2004 09:28:56
Just did this mission for the first time .
I fly a blastathron(using medium modal neutrons) and decided to tank a bit more than usual after seeing the pagecount here, as gallente 2 thermic and 2 kinetic hardeners were a charm. Jumped in at 15, was a piece of cake (preparation always pays off), 8 minutes later all were dead.
If ppl really have probs in battleships, tank mordu specific, but most importantly equip a heavy nosferatu for your endurance.
Edit: Forgot to say, i love the mission, and being sorrounded by the first cloud was a nice adrenile injection. The only pain was the loot collection, the last moa and bb decided to get some distance, hurrying away in different directions.
Another Edit: Just refined the loot, in addition to the bounties and reward i now have minerals worth 2,1 million isk.
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Khyle
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Posted - 2004.09.03 09:22:00 -
[290]
Edited by: Khyle on 03/09/2004 09:47:08 Edited by: Khyle on 03/09/2004 09:28:56
Just did this mission for the first time .
I fly a blastathron(using medium modal neutrons) and decided to tank a bit more than usual after seeing the pagecount here, as gallente 2 thermic and 2 kinetic hardeners were a charm. Jumped in at 15, was a piece of cake (preparation always pays off), 8 minutes later all were dead.
If ppl really have probs in battleships, tank mordu specific, but most importantly equip a heavy nosferatu for your endurance.
Edit: Forgot to say, i love the mission, and being sorrounded by the first cloud was a nice adrenile injection. The only pain was the loot collection, the last moa and bb decided to get some distance, hurrying away in different directions.
Another Edit: Just refined the loot, in addition to the bounties and reward i now have minerals worth 2,1 million isk.
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NuBreed
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Posted - 2004.09.03 11:50:00 -
[291]
so, generally...whut modules is a must against them?
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NuBreed
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Posted - 2004.09.03 11:50:00 -
[292]
so, generally...whut modules is a must against them?
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.09.03 12:06:00 -
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I did this mission last night, and thouroughly enjoyed it. I used an Armageddon, and the only tanking I used was a Large Armor Repairer. The little buggers got me down to structure, and I had to warp out a couple of times, but killed them all in the end.
My only concern is that it takes a long time to complete this mission, and the bonus only last for forty-five minutes - which a lot of people will really struggle with.
The really scary part of it was when someone else turned up at the mission site for their own mission...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.09.03 12:06:00 -
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I did this mission last night, and thouroughly enjoyed it. I used an Armageddon, and the only tanking I used was a Large Armor Repairer. The little buggers got me down to structure, and I had to warp out a couple of times, but killed them all in the end.
My only concern is that it takes a long time to complete this mission, and the bonus only last for forty-five minutes - which a lot of people will really struggle with.
The really scary part of it was when someone else turned up at the mission site for their own mission...
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Sgt Drill
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Posted - 2004.09.03 12:07:00 -
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I also lost a Bs to this mission first time I did it .
The bigest problem is that this miision was in a astroid belt, and the warp scrambliong cruiser came into 7.5km range, so my Mega pulses could not hit it, or my heavy pulse. And while figting 17 ships, a spawn of Roid pirates jump in on me and kill my drones (thanks roid pirates).
I peronally feel it like playing monoply with a lot of House rules getting changed all the time :-(.
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Sgt Drill
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Posted - 2004.09.03 12:07:00 -
[296]
I also lost a Bs to this mission first time I did it .
The bigest problem is that this miision was in a astroid belt, and the warp scrambliong cruiser came into 7.5km range, so my Mega pulses could not hit it, or my heavy pulse. And while figting 17 ships, a spawn of Roid pirates jump in on me and kill my drones (thanks roid pirates).
I peronally feel it like playing monoply with a lot of House rules getting changed all the time :-(.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.09.03 12:36:00 -
[297]
Originally by: NuBreed so, generally...whut modules is a must against them?
Guns ... ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.09.03 12:36:00 -
[298]
Originally by: NuBreed so, generally...whut modules is a must against them?
Guns ... ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |

Naos Zapatero
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Posted - 2004.09.03 13:38:00 -
[299]
Add 2 Thorax and 1 Cara to the list although I hate to admit it lol I wont be trying any more. Its not that I cant afford to cover my losses I could go on for ages but I cant be bothered tbh I'm sick to death of **** like this in EVE.
In my opinioin its far too hard for a level 3 and after reading the posts here im not alone, I enjoy a challenge and I usually find a way to adapt but this is too dam nasty and for someone "trying" to have fun in EVE thats not a good thing.
Very bad show CCP Im really disappointed in you.
All the above are my opinions as a paying customer and Directed at CCP not the community, I really dont give a flying **** what you may think of my opinions, I am entitled to express them and care little on your views on my opinion.
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Naos Zapatero
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Posted - 2004.09.03 13:38:00 -
[300]
Add 2 Thorax and 1 Cara to the list although I hate to admit it lol I wont be trying any more. Its not that I cant afford to cover my losses I could go on for ages but I cant be bothered tbh I'm sick to death of **** like this in EVE.
In my opinioin its far too hard for a level 3 and after reading the posts here im not alone, I enjoy a challenge and I usually find a way to adapt but this is too dam nasty and for someone "trying" to have fun in EVE thats not a good thing.
Very bad show CCP Im really disappointed in you.
All the above are my opinions as a paying customer and Directed at CCP not the community, I really dont give a flying **** what you may think of my opinions, I am entitled to express them and care little on your views on my opinion.
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Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.09.03 14:02:00 -
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I've noticed that quite a few of 'Stock' missions have Interceptors in them now. Quite nice. Just when I thought that Mordus would be the only mission I may need to equip my Apoc with Tanking...
...Two Sansha Monsters appear in the Gone Beserk Mission. They webbed me, they scrambled me. Even though my ship (I never learn my lesson) wasn't equiped for the new Harder Missions, this time, I did not panic...not nearly as bad as before. I lived.
...Mercenary Wingmen in another mission...didn't quite know what they were until they were circling at 8 kilometers. This time my britches were not around my ankles. The Mordus Headhunters, the Sansha Monsters had learned me good.
I lounged for a few minutes, letting the little Wingmen feel all important as they webbed me, scrambled me and peppered me with missiles and turret fire.
My shields were collapsing, I saw the gleam in their eyes, they knew they had me. To further boost their self-esteem, I released a solo Acolyte Scout Drone. It took some doing, sending that poor little drone to its death, but after all the Ogres put their backs into it, we managed to pry its little baby claws from the hanger doors and toss it out into space.
Having earlier left my pod to help with launching the Acolyte (who, sadly, was taken out by a Mercenary Commander before it managed to come up with the ransom the Wingmen demanded), I sat in the Employee Lounge and sipped a Martini with a straw, watching the Mercenaries batter fruitlessly against my Hardeners and Large Armor Repairers.
I bored quickly, felt uncomfortable slumming with the kitchen staff and didn't like the accusing stares for the late-Acolyte's fiance (her eyes were like daggers, but what a rack!)
My Ogres made quick work of the Mercenary Wingmen, as did, and this was an amazing surprise: my Megapulse Beams with Infared Crystals (I had accidentally reprocessed the Large X-rays), optimal range of 44k, managed to score a few hits on the circling Wingmen at 8.5 kilometers...amazing!
So...point is: Its not just Mordus you have to watch out for, it seems that quite a few of the Level 3 missions have been infused with Fun.
and CCP, I disagree, no extra warning should be given for these missions. Level 3 is Level 3...they should be tough and woe to those players who aren't prepared. ______________ "I Type with my Tongue" |

Wyckoff
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Posted - 2004.09.03 14:02:00 -
[302]
I've noticed that quite a few of 'Stock' missions have Interceptors in them now. Quite nice. Just when I thought that Mordus would be the only mission I may need to equip my Apoc with Tanking...
...Two Sansha Monsters appear in the Gone Beserk Mission. They webbed me, they scrambled me. Even though my ship (I never learn my lesson) wasn't equiped for the new Harder Missions, this time, I did not panic...not nearly as bad as before. I lived.
...Mercenary Wingmen in another mission...didn't quite know what they were until they were circling at 8 kilometers. This time my britches were not around my ankles. The Mordus Headhunters, the Sansha Monsters had learned me good.
I lounged for a few minutes, letting the little Wingmen feel all important as they webbed me, scrambled me and peppered me with missiles and turret fire.
My shields were collapsing, I saw the gleam in their eyes, they knew they had me. To further boost their self-esteem, I released a solo Acolyte Scout Drone. It took some doing, sending that poor little drone to its death, but after all the Ogres put their backs into it, we managed to pry its little baby claws from the hanger doors and toss it out into space.
Having earlier left my pod to help with launching the Acolyte (who, sadly, was taken out by a Mercenary Commander before it managed to come up with the ransom the Wingmen demanded), I sat in the Employee Lounge and sipped a Martini with a straw, watching the Mercenaries batter fruitlessly against my Hardeners and Large Armor Repairers.
I bored quickly, felt uncomfortable slumming with the kitchen staff and didn't like the accusing stares for the late-Acolyte's fiance (her eyes were like daggers, but what a rack!)
My Ogres made quick work of the Mercenary Wingmen, as did, and this was an amazing surprise: my Megapulse Beams with Infared Crystals (I had accidentally reprocessed the Large X-rays), optimal range of 44k, managed to score a few hits on the circling Wingmen at 8.5 kilometers...amazing!
So...point is: Its not just Mordus you have to watch out for, it seems that quite a few of the Level 3 missions have been infused with Fun.
and CCP, I disagree, no extra warning should be given for these missions. Level 3 is Level 3...they should be tough and woe to those players who aren't prepared. ______________ "I Type with my Tongue" |

Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.03 15:08:00 -
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everyone who has lost their BATTLEship against a pack of npc cruisers should donate their insurance money to me, k thx. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.03 15:08:00 -
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everyone who has lost their BATTLEship against a pack of npc cruisers should donate their insurance money to me, k thx. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Sonjeir
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Posted - 2004.09.03 16:22:00 -
[305]
I got the lvl3 version of this mission for the first time last night. After reading all the threads I thought I was ready and went out in my Moa to lay some waste...
Well I messed up choosing my first target, thought the Mordus Cheetah was the interceptor and opend fire on it. 
Well then I got that bug where the scanner doesn't update so I was happily plugging away thinking I was keeping my distance from the ceptor pretty good. Next thing I know I'm getting pounded from all directions and the scanner finally updates and the ceptors are orbiting at 8k with the rest of the crew closing fast. I turned my guns and missles to the ceptors but alas it was too late, I was able to wipe one out and get the secong down to about 25% hull but my trusty "Hammer" just couldn't take it any more and went BOOOM !! Now even then it took quite a while and I knew it was my fault for picking the wrong ship first so I wasn't ****ed at all.
Then I went and grabbed my Caracal and the rest of the mission was complete gravy, I didn't even take any more damage at all till the last wave.
Now I haven't been playing that long, have only 3 mill skill point, Lvl 3 cruiser, lvl 2 heavies, and most gunnery skills at lvl3. So I can not for the life of me see how people are loosing battleships to this mission. You have to be just sitting there watching the pretty lights or something. Really I don't see how you could loose a cruiser to this mission if you watch what your doing. You guys quit whinning about how hard this mission is because it isn't, you just have to use your brain some is all. There's a hell of alot more to fighting than warp in and start ganking, untill you learn that you probably had better go back to mining in Empire space.
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Sonjeir
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Posted - 2004.09.03 16:22:00 -
[306]
I got the lvl3 version of this mission for the first time last night. After reading all the threads I thought I was ready and went out in my Moa to lay some waste...
Well I messed up choosing my first target, thought the Mordus Cheetah was the interceptor and opend fire on it. 
Well then I got that bug where the scanner doesn't update so I was happily plugging away thinking I was keeping my distance from the ceptor pretty good. Next thing I know I'm getting pounded from all directions and the scanner finally updates and the ceptors are orbiting at 8k with the rest of the crew closing fast. I turned my guns and missles to the ceptors but alas it was too late, I was able to wipe one out and get the secong down to about 25% hull but my trusty "Hammer" just couldn't take it any more and went BOOOM !! Now even then it took quite a while and I knew it was my fault for picking the wrong ship first so I wasn't ****ed at all.
Then I went and grabbed my Caracal and the rest of the mission was complete gravy, I didn't even take any more damage at all till the last wave.
Now I haven't been playing that long, have only 3 mill skill point, Lvl 3 cruiser, lvl 2 heavies, and most gunnery skills at lvl3. So I can not for the life of me see how people are loosing battleships to this mission. You have to be just sitting there watching the pretty lights or something. Really I don't see how you could loose a cruiser to this mission if you watch what your doing. You guys quit whinning about how hard this mission is because it isn't, you just have to use your brain some is all. There's a hell of alot more to fighting than warp in and start ganking, untill you learn that you probably had better go back to mining in Empire space.
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.03 16:51:00 -
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I noticed they added alitle extra warnings on the Mordus mission :)
The Mordus Headhunters =======================
Mission briefing: ----------------------- We have an unfortunate situation on our hands. One of our officers has apparently been targeted by a Mordus assassination squad. We aren't sure who hired them, but we suspect that it's an internal dispute, i.e. they were hired by someone inside the Caldari State. We need the bounty hunters eliminated asap, before they are able to do any permanent damage. We would rather that the Caldari State's good relationship with the Mordus Legion will not be tainted by this incident, so keep it clean and leave no evidence of the battle behind if possible. The Mordus Legion are a powerful mercenary organization that we sometimes rely on, but obviously that does not deter all of their members from targeting our people if the price is right...
Just a word of warning though, these Mordus goons are no laughing matter. The bounty hunters have a warp scrambling and stasis webifying device, so I suggest you fit yourself with a warp core stabilizer.
Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Nourvukaiken
Rewards ----------------------- Upon completing the mission, the following will be awarded to you: 162000 credits
Bonus Rewards ----------------------- The following bonuses may be awarded to you: 34000 units of small Tungsten charges at Nourvukaiken VII - Moon 14 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant - if you complete the mission before 2004.09.03 17:32
Extra Info ----------------------- There may be extra waves of enemy ships that spawn during this mission in addition to the ones originally mentioned in the objectives. The journal objectives will update as these extra waves spawn.
This: "Just a word of warning though, these Mordus goons are no laughing matter. The bounty hunters have a warp scrambling and stasis webifying device, so I suggest you fit yourself with a warp core stabilizer." Must be a result of al the petitions  I didnt know warp core stabilizers worked on rats anyways :)
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\o/ I got a siggy...
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.09.03 16:51:00 -
[308]
I noticed they added alitle extra warnings on the Mordus mission :)
The Mordus Headhunters =======================
Mission briefing: ----------------------- We have an unfortunate situation on our hands. One of our officers has apparently been targeted by a Mordus assassination squad. We aren't sure who hired them, but we suspect that it's an internal dispute, i.e. they were hired by someone inside the Caldari State. We need the bounty hunters eliminated asap, before they are able to do any permanent damage. We would rather that the Caldari State's good relationship with the Mordus Legion will not be tainted by this incident, so keep it clean and leave no evidence of the battle behind if possible. The Mordus Legion are a powerful mercenary organization that we sometimes rely on, but obviously that does not deter all of their members from targeting our people if the price is right...
Just a word of warning though, these Mordus goons are no laughing matter. The bounty hunters have a warp scrambling and stasis webifying device, so I suggest you fit yourself with a warp core stabilizer.
Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Nourvukaiken
Rewards ----------------------- Upon completing the mission, the following will be awarded to you: 162000 credits
Bonus Rewards ----------------------- The following bonuses may be awarded to you: 34000 units of small Tungsten charges at Nourvukaiken VII - Moon 14 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant - if you complete the mission before 2004.09.03 17:32
Extra Info ----------------------- There may be extra waves of enemy ships that spawn during this mission in addition to the ones originally mentioned in the objectives. The journal objectives will update as these extra waves spawn.
This: "Just a word of warning though, these Mordus goons are no laughing matter. The bounty hunters have a warp scrambling and stasis webifying device, so I suggest you fit yourself with a warp core stabilizer." Must be a result of al the petitions  I didnt know warp core stabilizers worked on rats anyways :)
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\o/ I got a siggy...
WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |

Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.09.03 16:51:00 -
[309]
Finally got this mission.
My megathron was setup TOTALLY wrong for it. I didn't think it was that hard. A little intense at first because the spawn was pretty large (12 ships) and I lost a few heavy drones...pretty easy mission actually, but definately harder than the usual ones. Yea, good mission CCP, keep it.
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.09.03 16:51:00 -
[310]
Finally got this mission.
My megathron was setup TOTALLY wrong for it. I didn't think it was that hard. A little intense at first because the spawn was pretty large (12 ships) and I lost a few heavy drones...pretty easy mission actually, but definately harder than the usual ones. Yea, good mission CCP, keep it.
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Altan Demart
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Posted - 2004.09.03 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Altan Demart on 03/09/2004 20:00:19 Edited by: Altan Demart on 03/09/2004 19:53:53 Do not understand why you have problems with that mission, did i two times with my rupture. 3 Heavy Launcher and 3 Normal 220mm Autocannons. The second mission did i even in Bonus Time, got 243,000isk + 283,000 isk bonus. The hardest thing was to kill the last two cruisers ( 100,000 isk and 110,000 isk ).
Just kill first the fastest frigate ( should be the scrambler ), then the second one and all the other ones before the enemy cruisers get into their combat range. After that warp out, repair you armor/hull ( did i say that i have always repair mods on my ship ), watch your shield grow up and warp back at a different range ( if before 60km, then now 15km )... the enemy cruisers will now be at a nice distance and you can shoot them down before they come in close range ( the last you can destroy with your 220mm Acs ), after the last cruiser of the first wave is destroyed, the second wave will come in, destroy the nearest enemy and warp out... now do the repair thingy again and come back... ...and so on...
Hope that will help you .
Mfg Altan
Ship setup is :
High slot: 3 220mm ACs 3 Heavy Launcher with Widows
Med Slots: Cap Recharger 11.25% Med Shield Booster Small Hull Repair Module
Low Slots: 2 Nanofiber 2 Warp Stabs 1 Small Armor Repair Module ( Named )
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Altan Demart
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Posted - 2004.09.03 19:45:00 -
[312]
Edited by: Altan Demart on 03/09/2004 20:00:19 Edited by: Altan Demart on 03/09/2004 19:53:53 Do not understand why you have problems with that mission, did i two times with my rupture. 3 Heavy Launcher and 3 Normal 220mm Autocannons. The second mission did i even in Bonus Time, got 243,000isk + 283,000 isk bonus. The hardest thing was to kill the last two cruisers ( 100,000 isk and 110,000 isk ).
Just kill first the fastest frigate ( should be the scrambler ), then the second one and all the other ones before the enemy cruisers get into their combat range. After that warp out, repair you armor/hull ( did i say that i have always repair mods on my ship ), watch your shield grow up and warp back at a different range ( if before 60km, then now 15km )... the enemy cruisers will now be at a nice distance and you can shoot them down before they come in close range ( the last you can destroy with your 220mm Acs ), after the last cruiser of the first wave is destroyed, the second wave will come in, destroy the nearest enemy and warp out... now do the repair thingy again and come back... ...and so on...
Hope that will help you .
Mfg Altan
Ship setup is :
High slot: 3 220mm ACs 3 Heavy Launcher with Widows
Med Slots: Cap Recharger 11.25% Med Shield Booster Small Hull Repair Module
Low Slots: 2 Nanofiber 2 Warp Stabs 1 Small Armor Repair Module ( Named )
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Tindel
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Posted - 2004.09.03 19:54:00 -
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I am totally baffled by the responses here. Done the mission two times, both where challenging in a thorax, easy as hell in Taranis. I have 2.5mill skillpoints aimed 99% towards combat.
If you loose battleships you must have beyond poor skills,
Y helo thar
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Tindel
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Posted - 2004.09.03 19:54:00 -
[314]
I am totally baffled by the responses here. Done the mission two times, both where challenging in a thorax, easy as hell in Taranis. I have 2.5mill skillpoints aimed 99% towards combat.
If you loose battleships you must have beyond poor skills,
Y helo thar
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.03 20:05:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Tindel
If you loose battleships you must have beyond poor skills,
seconded. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.09.03 20:05:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Tindel
If you loose battleships you must have beyond poor skills,
seconded. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Shifar
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Posted - 2004.09.03 20:40:00 -
[317]
I was given this mission 3 times in a row, my only complaint is the naff loot.
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Shifar
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Posted - 2004.09.03 20:40:00 -
[318]
I was given this mission 3 times in a row, my only complaint is the naff loot.
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.09.03 21:41:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim
Originally by: Tindel
If you loose battleships you must have beyond poor skills,
seconded.
Thirded
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.09.03 21:41:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Vex Seraphim
Originally by: Tindel
If you loose battleships you must have beyond poor skills,
seconded.
Thirded
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Jorlin
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Posted - 2004.09.03 23:26:00 -
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i think you CAN actually lose a BS to this mission...if you go in unprepared, awaiting the usual killmission routine you've done countless times before... it could have happened to me i admit. do i find it too hard? hell, no!
did the mission today for the first time (but knew it was no piece of cake). my 'phoon i use for missions was no way optimal equipped....for shortrange and the usual "victim" type of npc. if i had warped in at my usual 15k it might have been a return in pod for me.
the difference is, to KNOW what will happen. not every detail...but enough to avoid the mayor dangers.
so don't bash the poor souls who didn't know what's happening and got their rearsides handed to 'em ;)
no police, no summons, no courts of law; no proper procedure, no rules of war; no mitigating circumstance; no lawyers fees, no second chance! |

Jorlin
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Posted - 2004.09.03 23:26:00 -
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i think you CAN actually lose a BS to this mission...if you go in unprepared, awaiting the usual killmission routine you've done countless times before... it could have happened to me i admit. do i find it too hard? hell, no!
did the mission today for the first time (but knew it was no piece of cake). my 'phoon i use for missions was no way optimal equipped....for shortrange and the usual "victim" type of npc. if i had warped in at my usual 15k it might have been a return in pod for me.
the difference is, to KNOW what will happen. not every detail...but enough to avoid the mayor dangers.
so don't bash the poor souls who didn't know what's happening and got their rearsides handed to 'em ;)
no police, no summons, no courts of law; no proper procedure, no rules of war; no mitigating circumstance; no lawyers fees, no second chance! |

Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:10:00 -
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Personally I think its a case of, if in doubt then warp in at long range. Close range setups are nice and certainly quick for lotting, but if you're not sure what you're up against they're also very unforgiving if mistakes or bad setups.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:10:00 -
[324]
Personally I think its a case of, if in doubt then warp in at long range. Close range setups are nice and certainly quick for lotting, but if you're not sure what you're up against they're also very unforgiving if mistakes or bad setups.
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Belarius
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:21:00 -
[325]
Don't think the bashing is necessarily going towards the people who've lost BS's... More towards those who immediately claim CCP is f#ck@d up and its too hard and should be changed... That's just as bad as those saying empire space should be 100% secure...
What is a game if you don't get challenged once in a while? Seriously? If you buy a new game and it's too hard do you blame the company that made it? Do you run and get the cheat codes so you can slide through with no challenge at all? Or do you hunker down, admit you got beaten and then actually think and work at winning? What of those 3 give you the most reward at the end?
The best fun I've ever had in a game is when something totally unexpected happened and I almost got totally fragged but pulled it out at the last second... I went from being scared, to ****ed, to totally excited... I've also have times when I've been totally owned... Was mad and cussed a lot... After calming down admitted I was too confident, actually planned out my next moves and when I won was again totally excited... Isn't this what games are for? To challenge, excite, scare, even **** you off? In the end that is a great game.
Bel
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Belarius
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:21:00 -
[326]
Don't think the bashing is necessarily going towards the people who've lost BS's... More towards those who immediately claim CCP is f#ck@d up and its too hard and should be changed... That's just as bad as those saying empire space should be 100% secure...
What is a game if you don't get challenged once in a while? Seriously? If you buy a new game and it's too hard do you blame the company that made it? Do you run and get the cheat codes so you can slide through with no challenge at all? Or do you hunker down, admit you got beaten and then actually think and work at winning? What of those 3 give you the most reward at the end?
The best fun I've ever had in a game is when something totally unexpected happened and I almost got totally fragged but pulled it out at the last second... I went from being scared, to ****ed, to totally excited... I've also have times when I've been totally owned... Was mad and cussed a lot... After calming down admitted I was too confident, actually planned out my next moves and when I won was again totally excited... Isn't this what games are for? To challenge, excite, scare, even **** you off? In the end that is a great game.
Bel
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Nomi Asterrn
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:29:00 -
[327]
Quote: Belarius
Don't think the bashing is necessarily going towards the people who've lost BS's... More towards those who immediately claim CCP is f#ck@d up and its too hard and should be changed...
Seconded ...This thread is about a good mission , not about whos best...IMO
THE WEAK CAUSE MORE HARM THAN THE STRONG |

Nomi Asterrn
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:29:00 -
[328]
Quote: Belarius
Don't think the bashing is necessarily going towards the people who've lost BS's... More towards those who immediately claim CCP is f#ck@d up and its too hard and should be changed...
Seconded ...This thread is about a good mission , not about whos best...IMO
THE WEAK CAUSE MORE HARM THAN THE STRONG |

Finraer
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:34:00 -
[329]
Edited by: Finraer on 04/09/2004 00:41:20 Only got as far as the first page so apologies if this has been said before.
This is a great mission and well within the abilities of a BS - its just the first mission we might have had to use some tactics for - perhaps take out the inty rats first, use medium drones, not heavies, and lights - and in this day and age the drone bay of a BS should have a range of each size imo.
Yes, its a challenge, but I managed the Mordus mission and half of someone elses spawn rats as we both had the same location in my Raven without dropping into armour and I only had a large shield booster on and 2 damage specifics (EM and Kinetic I think). I am nowhere near that good or skilled a pilot - preparation and tactics did it, not uber mods. I daresay that others have done it better and in different ways (I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed it in a cruiser though, that would scare the crap out of me)
It was the best mission I have had to do to date and it got the pulse racing. Its certainly a mission I would go into again with the knowledge that if things went wrong I might lose my BS.
I agree that the Mordu mission might require a BS but imo thats within the parameters of lvl 3 missions and its nothing a well prepared BS shouldn't be able to handle. Its just a bit beyond the normal warp, smash, grab return, rinse repeat kill missions, but hardly lvl 4.
Fin
Raven Kitout (my standard mission setting):
2 medium neutron blasters - for close range rats, will hit frigates and cruisers 6 heavy Launchers with Scourge - no point using expensvie ammo for agent misisons 1 Shield Amp 1 Large shield booster 1 Sensor booster 1 Kinetic mod 1 EMP Mod 1 Medium booster - lower cap usage than the large for when cap gets low and I still want some shield boosting Low slot ballistic mods, damage mods, tracking mod and power mods - can't recall exactly how many or what of each Drone Bay - 2 Wasp (hardly ever used), 5 Light Drones, Medium drones
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Finraer
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Posted - 2004.09.04 00:34:00 -
[330]
Edited by: Finraer on 04/09/2004 00:41:20 Only got as far as the first page so apologies if this has been said before.
This is a great mission and well within the abilities of a BS - its just the first mission we might have had to use some tactics for - perhaps take out the inty rats first, use medium drones, not heavies, and lights - and in this day and age the drone bay of a BS should have a range of each size imo.
Yes, its a challenge, but I managed the Mordus mission and half of someone elses spawn rats as we both had the same location in my Raven without dropping into armour and I only had a large shield booster on and 2 damage specifics (EM and Kinetic I think). I am nowhere near that good or skilled a pilot - preparation and tactics did it, not uber mods. I daresay that others have done it better and in different ways (I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed it in a cruiser though, that would scare the crap out of me)
It was the best mission I have had to do to date and it got the pulse racing. Its certainly a mission I would go into again with the knowledge that if things went wrong I might lose my BS.
I agree that the Mordu mission might require a BS but imo thats within the parameters of lvl 3 missions and its nothing a well prepared BS shouldn't be able to handle. Its just a bit beyond the normal warp, smash, grab return, rinse repeat kill missions, but hardly lvl 4.
Fin
Raven Kitout (my standard mission setting):
2 medium neutron blasters - for close range rats, will hit frigates and cruisers 6 heavy Launchers with Scourge - no point using expensvie ammo for agent misisons 1 Shield Amp 1 Large shield booster 1 Sensor booster 1 Kinetic mod 1 EMP Mod 1 Medium booster - lower cap usage than the large for when cap gets low and I still want some shield boosting Low slot ballistic mods, damage mods, tracking mod and power mods - can't recall exactly how many or what of each Drone Bay - 2 Wasp (hardly ever used), 5 Light Drones, Medium drones
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Kritkeen
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Posted - 2004.09.04 03:36:00 -
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easily done with a cruiser
did with a tanked caracal, keep your distance and it's fine.......take out obviously the web and warp scrambling frigs first
and yes, i had the 650k Raid Leader dropped me an implant too
making a big deal out of your error makes the rest of us have easy missions......i've been waiting for something like this....thank you CCP, i hope this is a little taste of the lvl 4's
-----2004.08.02 17:00:58 combatYour Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage. Your Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.---- |

Kritkeen
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Posted - 2004.09.04 03:36:00 -
[332]
easily done with a cruiser
did with a tanked caracal, keep your distance and it's fine.......take out obviously the web and warp scrambling frigs first
and yes, i had the 650k Raid Leader dropped me an implant too
making a big deal out of your error makes the rest of us have easy missions......i've been waiting for something like this....thank you CCP, i hope this is a little taste of the lvl 4's
-----2004.08.02 17:00:58 combatYour Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage. Your Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Protector, wrecking for 847.8 damage.---- |

Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 06:33:00 -
[333]
I got to say this as after reading the post here i come to one answers.
Yes the mission ant easy but it ant that hard either.
To those that have lost there ships to the missions im sorry to hear ur loss and hope u do better next time. To those that have lost there ships and are pertioning it lol grow up for crying out loud. So u lost ur ship and ...... so get a new one lol u lost ur ship because u was unprepeared its no ones fault but ur own lol so dont blame ccp for ur mistakes
You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it
wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia |

Lord Anubis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 06:33:00 -
[334]
I got to say this as after reading the post here i come to one answers.
Yes the mission ant easy but it ant that hard either.
To those that have lost there ships to the missions im sorry to hear ur loss and hope u do better next time. To those that have lost there ships and are pertioning it lol grow up for crying out loud. So u lost ur ship and ...... so get a new one lol u lost ur ship because u was unprepeared its no ones fault but ur own lol so dont blame ccp for ur mistakes
You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it
wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia |

Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:47:00 -
[335]
I just did this mission in a Typonn, and had no problems. I didn't even lose my crappy shield to the rats (I have a MWD and 2 cap power relays fitted, which makes for a very weak shield)
I followed my usual tactics of warp at 60km, start moving alligned to a warp out point, and when a wave spawns on top of me decide if I should punch the microwarps and stay or puunch the microwarps and run off. Since I disn't know what these ships could do I warped out each time to be safe, but I dont think I needed to.
I lost a bunch of light drones, but they are expendable; I use them more to distract the enemies than to do damage (ever seen a cracal spin like a dog chasing it's own tail firing heavy missiles at a light scout drone? Hilarious!) Of the 9 I lost 5 were from me warping out and leaving them.
Collecting the loot took a long time, but was worth it. Overall I liked this mission, and I liked fighting interceptor rats for a change.
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Kalfu
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Posted - 2004.09.05 10:47:00 -
[336]
I just did this mission in a Typonn, and had no problems. I didn't even lose my crappy shield to the rats (I have a MWD and 2 cap power relays fitted, which makes for a very weak shield)
I followed my usual tactics of warp at 60km, start moving alligned to a warp out point, and when a wave spawns on top of me decide if I should punch the microwarps and stay or puunch the microwarps and run off. Since I disn't know what these ships could do I warped out each time to be safe, but I dont think I needed to.
I lost a bunch of light drones, but they are expendable; I use them more to distract the enemies than to do damage (ever seen a cracal spin like a dog chasing it's own tail firing heavy missiles at a light scout drone? Hilarious!) Of the 9 I lost 5 were from me warping out and leaving them.
Collecting the loot took a long time, but was worth it. Overall I liked this mission, and I liked fighting interceptor rats for a change.
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2004.09.05 11:13:00 -
[337]
I do this mission in my mega with 425. Warp in at 60, shoot everything... and every single time the bounty hunter(s) gets within 10 in secs, but they dont web or scramble me. Anyway, please CCP, get 3-4 missions in like this (with the red warning text for whiners) with more or bigger rats at last spawn.
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2004.09.05 11:13:00 -
[338]
I do this mission in my mega with 425. Warp in at 60, shoot everything... and every single time the bounty hunter(s) gets within 10 in secs, but they dont web or scramble me. Anyway, please CCP, get 3-4 missions in like this (with the red warning text for whiners) with more or bigger rats at last spawn.
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Vardemis
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Posted - 2004.09.05 12:19:00 -
[339]
Imho the missions isnt even much of a challenge. Take out the soptional encounter fo the sabotaged mission witha cruiser and alone, thats a challenge. :)
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Vardemis
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Posted - 2004.09.05 12:19:00 -
[340]
Imho the missions isnt even much of a challenge. Take out the soptional encounter fo the sabotaged mission witha cruiser and alone, thats a challenge. :)
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Kathira
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Posted - 2004.09.05 12:39:00 -
[341]
I now have had several Mordus but all without the "big Boss" but they are easy to make with a Dominix.
I go in at 15 km .... and loot them when theyre all dead.
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Kathira
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Posted - 2004.09.05 12:39:00 -
[342]
I now have had several Mordus but all without the "big Boss" but they are easy to make with a Dominix.
I go in at 15 km .... and loot them when theyre all dead.
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.05 13:26:00 -
[343]
Originally by: Kathira I now have had several Mordus but all without the "big Boss" but they are easy to make with a Dominix.
I go in at 15 km .... and loot them when theyre all dead.
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obscuroditus
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Posted - 2004.09.05 13:26:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Kathira I now have had several Mordus but all without the "big Boss" but they are easy to make with a Dominix.
I go in at 15 km .... and loot them when theyre all dead.
It's a bit hard to extract the loot from living ships isnt it  |

Trom
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Posted - 2004.09.06 02:08:00 -
[345]
Edited by: Trom on 06/09/2004 02:10:08 I have done this mission solo a total of 3 times and have had no problems in my Typhoon. I have decent shield gear on and I just collect loot as my drones kill them all.
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Trom
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Posted - 2004.09.06 02:08:00 -
[346]
Edited by: Trom on 06/09/2004 02:10:08 I have done this mission solo a total of 3 times and have had no problems in my Typhoon. I have decent shield gear on and I just collect loot as my drones kill them all.
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Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.06 09:41:00 -
[347]
This mission would be easier if rats would be jammable. Before some patch(can't recall which) they were possible to jam. If I remember right 3 multispecs were enough to jam a cruiser.
If ya can break their lock, ya can always flee the battle if it gets too hot!
I beg CCP, make NPC-rats jammable..
forgive our sins that we are about to commit |

Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.06 09:41:00 -
[348]
This mission would be easier if rats would be jammable. Before some patch(can't recall which) they were possible to jam. If I remember right 3 multispecs were enough to jam a cruiser.
If ya can break their lock, ya can always flee the battle if it gets too hot!
I beg CCP, make NPC-rats jammable..
forgive our sins that we are about to commit |

Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.09.06 10:33:00 -
[349]
I do this mission in a Scorpion with Paradise and Devastator Cruise Missiles. I like the faction more than the monetary rewards.
I make enough money to cover my ammunition costs anyways, so who really cares...
www.hadean.org
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.09.06 10:33:00 -
[350]
I do this mission in a Scorpion with Paradise and Devastator Cruise Missiles. I like the faction more than the monetary rewards.
I make enough money to cover my ammunition costs anyways, so who really cares...
www.hadean.org
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Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.06 10:58:00 -
[351]
Thoughts about of what I've read in this thread.
Although I haven't personally completed mordu mission of any level, I would reckon to fit always least one Warp Core Stabilizer wherever ya go. That is even more important on battleship, because it's often too slow to run away from webbers and scramblers.
Of what I've read so far, it seems that fast cruiser is best ship to complete this mission. If ya can, pick a caracal. Fit it with mwd and perhaps a shield extender just in case. Then fit a webifier, because hitting ships with med / large guns is lot easier when webified.
My fitting for agent mission with my caracal is following:
2 x Heavy Pulse Lasers (compromise between damage / tracking speed / firing speed / range. It is a good choise of weapon against cruisers and frigates. Will hit both.
3 x Heavy launchers, filled with kinetic heavies.
2 - 1 x Webifier(s)
1 x MWD 1 x Medium Shield Extender
Some meaningless crap in lowslots except WCS's.
Why I prefer cruiser over battleship in this mission? That is because of cost-effectiveness. Losing a cruiser isn't such a big deal. And furthermore, if ya take heavy damage to bs's armor / hull, it is expensive to repair, unless ya won't fix it with repairers.
And I agree that petitioning about losing ships due to own carelesness is immature, but then again complaining is good way to keep developers aware of game balance. Don't stop complaining, but stop complaining in vain.
Constant Alertness |

Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.06 10:58:00 -
[352]
Thoughts about of what I've read in this thread.
Although I haven't personally completed mordu mission of any level, I would reckon to fit always least one Warp Core Stabilizer wherever ya go. That is even more important on battleship, because it's often too slow to run away from webbers and scramblers.
Of what I've read so far, it seems that fast cruiser is best ship to complete this mission. If ya can, pick a caracal. Fit it with mwd and perhaps a shield extender just in case. Then fit a webifier, because hitting ships with med / large guns is lot easier when webified.
My fitting for agent mission with my caracal is following:
2 x Heavy Pulse Lasers (compromise between damage / tracking speed / firing speed / range. It is a good choise of weapon against cruisers and frigates. Will hit both.
3 x Heavy launchers, filled with kinetic heavies.
2 - 1 x Webifier(s)
1 x MWD 1 x Medium Shield Extender
Some meaningless crap in lowslots except WCS's.
Why I prefer cruiser over battleship in this mission? That is because of cost-effectiveness. Losing a cruiser isn't such a big deal. And furthermore, if ya take heavy damage to bs's armor / hull, it is expensive to repair, unless ya won't fix it with repairers.
And I agree that petitioning about losing ships due to own carelesness is immature, but then again complaining is good way to keep developers aware of game balance. Don't stop complaining, but stop complaining in vain.
Constant Alertness |

Vordicae
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:02:00 -
[353]
I just HAD to tell someone about this mission .
Love it :) Love it :) :)
LOVE IT ! :) :) :)
I was ****ing myself so bad that I blew 2 million on insurance for my ship in case and then launched.
warped into the location Adrenaline was racing and my heart thumping !
killed the first wave, not remembering the wise words of keep thr last spawn at range ! Boy did I regret it .. fortunately I had killed the scrambler first so I warped at 40% structure 
waited for a cap and shield recharge after my silly mistake and went back into the fray .. SCARY as Hell !
The buggers went down reasonably fast tho to my 720mm cannons and eventually the last two rats spawned to DIE !
---------------- In Conclusion I just want to Thank CCP for making a mission that gave my RUPTURE a bit more of a challenge and one that got me on the edge of my pilots chair .. Long live the cruiser pilots! Battleships are Obselete ! ! ----------------
 ----------------------------------------------------- In space .. no-one can hear you munching crisps in the back seat of your Hauler ! ----------------------------------------------------- Show me the money |

Vordicae
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:02:00 -
[354]
I just HAD to tell someone about this mission .
Love it :) Love it :) :)
LOVE IT ! :) :) :)
I was ****ing myself so bad that I blew 2 million on insurance for my ship in case and then launched.
warped into the location Adrenaline was racing and my heart thumping !
killed the first wave, not remembering the wise words of keep thr last spawn at range ! Boy did I regret it .. fortunately I had killed the scrambler first so I warped at 40% structure 
waited for a cap and shield recharge after my silly mistake and went back into the fray .. SCARY as Hell !
The buggers went down reasonably fast tho to my 720mm cannons and eventually the last two rats spawned to DIE !
---------------- In Conclusion I just want to Thank CCP for making a mission that gave my RUPTURE a bit more of a challenge and one that got me on the edge of my pilots chair .. Long live the cruiser pilots! Battleships are Obselete ! ! ----------------
 ----------------------------------------------------- In space .. no-one can hear you munching crisps in the back seat of your Hauler ! ----------------------------------------------------- Show me the money |

Vordicae
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:03:00 -
[355]
P 0 0 P is a bad word ? ----------------------------------------------------- In space .. no-one can hear you munching crisps in the back seat of your Hauler ! ----------------------------------------------------- Show me the money |

Vordicae
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:03:00 -
[356]
P 0 0 P is a bad word ? ----------------------------------------------------- In space .. no-one can hear you munching crisps in the back seat of your Hauler ! ----------------------------------------------------- Show me the money |

Dark Dude
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:04:00 -
[357]
Just done it cool mission not easy but if ur preped for it u should do fine
Hardeners
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Dark Dude
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:04:00 -
[358]
Just done it cool mission not easy but if ur preped for it u should do fine
Hardeners
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Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:20:00 -
[359]
<-- tanked apoc, no shield boosters and lost 60% of my shield once mission was done...
<-- maller, done the mission without having to warp once.
<-- I'm going to try with a rifter, maybe this time I'm going to enjoy that mission. |

Nikodaemonicus
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Posted - 2004.09.06 12:20:00 -
[360]
<-- tanked apoc, no shield boosters and lost 60% of my shield once mission was done...
<-- maller, done the mission without having to warp once.
<-- I'm going to try with a rifter, maybe this time I'm going to enjoy that mission. |
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2004.09.06 22:43:00 -
[361]
I've got to add what I think about this mission to the end of this thread, in case someone is still reading after nine pages...
B-l-o-o-d-y Fan-tas-tic
I haven't lost a ship to a lvl 3 mission for about 3-4 months. And that's not gloating, they're just not difficult enough to worry about losing one. Ever. And I can't fly battleships either... Here's how I remember it...
First time I did this, I knew it was gonna be a toughie... 8 instances of one ship type, and with the rest totalled somewhere around 15 ships (memory's hazy, so this may be rubbish - but hey, I'm telling the story alright! ) as well as the much vaunted extra waves my agent had deemed worthy of note. Mysterious. Not like her to be unable to tell me exactly what I'm up against. This would have been motivation enough to do the mission, but the hefty pricetag removed any doubt I had left about accepting the job. "You can count on me..." I say, loading the cargohold with ammo.
Warped in at 40k... I always do... though on the way in I was having second thoughts. Wished I could have bailed there and gone in further out. I'd never seen Mordu's ships before... I didn't know what they were capable of. Screw it, I thought, coming out of warp. How hard can it be?
I locked everything I could focus upon, the battlefield a mass of red blinking square brackets (gotta see about upgrading the view)... afterburners on: my ship's too slow under its own power to keep them at optimal range. Shield booster running. Barely even fired off the first salvo of heavy missiles and already my shields have a dent in them. Not enough to worry about bailing just yet...
Projectiles firing - the sound of those cannons always gets my adrenaline pumping; Missiles away - the delay between launch and my command slightly worrying, have to have a word with the crew about that when we get back to drydock. By this time I can see a couple of frigs getting a little close, load up the autocannon and fire... vaguely aware of a cruiser going down in the background... missiles aren't launching - need new targets; autocannon out of ammo - a single frig is downed, but by this time my capacitor has dryed up. Afterburners are running on fumes, shield booster died an age ago. Shields apporaching critical. Not good.
The command to engage warp comes. Nothing... another cruiser bathes my ship in light... Maybe that's the incoming missiles. Can't fly straight... the remaining frig annoying the hell out of me like a fly in the face. Try to warp again... Still nothing? Got enough cap? Check... warp. Nothing. Then I see it. The HUD's been trying to tell me I'm scrambled... the damn frig! Autocannon is still firing, but the armor is ripping from the hull... Have to have a word with the crew... dammit. Now I'll be speaking to their families. Thought I saw another cruiser go down in the distance, then I realised that was the material of the egg heating up as my ship's power core detonated with that last missile impact.
Still... warp. I'm out. Curiosity killed the cat? And the tiger. And the lion. All dead. "Better luck next time" she says... the egg telling the story I couldn't. "Yeah..." I mumble. Nothing hurt except my pride. "There's always next time. You can count on me."
Interesting times await... |

Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2004.09.06 22:43:00 -
[362]
I've got to add what I think about this mission to the end of this thread, in case someone is still reading after nine pages...
B-l-o-o-d-y Fan-tas-tic
I haven't lost a ship to a lvl 3 mission for about 3-4 months. And that's not gloating, they're just not difficult enough to worry about losing one. Ever. And I can't fly battleships either... Here's how I remember it...
First time I did this, I knew it was gonna be a toughie... 8 instances of one ship type, and with the rest totalled somewhere around 15 ships (memory's hazy, so this may be rubbish - but hey, I'm telling the story alright! ) as well as the much vaunted extra waves my agent had deemed worthy of note. Mysterious. Not like her to be unable to tell me exactly what I'm up against. This would have been motivation enough to do the mission, but the hefty pricetag removed any doubt I had left about accepting the job. "You can count on me..." I say, loading the cargohold with ammo.
Warped in at 40k... I always do... though on the way in I was having second thoughts. Wished I could have bailed there and gone in further out. I'd never seen Mordu's ships before... I didn't know what they were capable of. Screw it, I thought, coming out of warp. How hard can it be?
I locked everything I could focus upon, the battlefield a mass of red blinking square brackets (gotta see about upgrading the view)... afterburners on: my ship's too slow under its own power to keep them at optimal range. Shield booster running. Barely even fired off the first salvo of heavy missiles and already my shields have a dent in them. Not enough to worry about bailing just yet...
Projectiles firing - the sound of those cannons always gets my adrenaline pumping; Missiles away - the delay between launch and my command slightly worrying, have to have a word with the crew about that when we get back to drydock. By this time I can see a couple of frigs getting a little close, load up the autocannon and fire... vaguely aware of a cruiser going down in the background... missiles aren't launching - need new targets; autocannon out of ammo - a single frig is downed, but by this time my capacitor has dryed up. Afterburners are running on fumes, shield booster died an age ago. Shields apporaching critical. Not good.
The command to engage warp comes. Nothing... another cruiser bathes my ship in light... Maybe that's the incoming missiles. Can't fly straight... the remaining frig annoying the hell out of me like a fly in the face. Try to warp again... Still nothing? Got enough cap? Check... warp. Nothing. Then I see it. The HUD's been trying to tell me I'm scrambled... the damn frig! Autocannon is still firing, but the armor is ripping from the hull... Have to have a word with the crew... dammit. Now I'll be speaking to their families. Thought I saw another cruiser go down in the distance, then I realised that was the material of the egg heating up as my ship's power core detonated with that last missile impact.
Still... warp. I'm out. Curiosity killed the cat? And the tiger. And the lion. All dead. "Better luck next time" she says... the egg telling the story I couldn't. "Yeah..." I mumble. Nothing hurt except my pride. "There's always next time. You can count on me."
Interesting times await... |

Cassandar Arelli
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:29:00 -
[363]
So I decided to take the mission on expecting anything...well anything other than my own stupidity. In warped the Domi at 60k to be greeted (as expected) 5 Mordus Katanas, 3 Mordus Bobcats, 1 Mordus Cheetah and 2 Mordus Bounty Hunters must be destroyed in Masalle I dealt with them after a while, leaving the laggard who was still at 40k until last, in warped another wave, less ships but somewhat harder ships, as they were closing I unleashed a mass of drones, these kept some of them busy whilst I MWD out to a greater range.As the drones wacked the last ship in warped another wave, now things are looking serious, I kill this wave and I,m struggling into armour now. Heart pounding as the final two it turns out to be,warp in close range,I deal with one but just cant seem to finish the lion, my heart thumping HAVE to warp out without my drones as im in serious pooh now, down to 360 structure I limp into station. I click on repair (foolish c*** up 1) I think it says 600k ( I forgot to have repairers working as my cap was virtually bugger all at this point) clicked repair and later noticed it was 6 MIL !!! So I returned, finished up the last rat and with time pressing picked up a couple of close containers and decided to warp back and claim mission reward. (Foolish c*** up 2) I was too far away from drones to pick em up, Wasps,Praetors,warriors etc 12 in all. thanks says the agent and pays me, so I figure on returning for the loot.( Foolish c*** up 3) forgot to bookmark the bloody location!!!! No Loot, considerable dent in my combat drone capability, stupid bloody repair bill....but I had done it so it could be seen as a phyrric victory in some ways but a good one nevertheless.
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Cassandar Arelli
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Posted - 2004.09.07 12:29:00 -
[364]
So I decided to take the mission on expecting anything...well anything other than my own stupidity. In warped the Domi at 60k to be greeted (as expected) 5 Mordus Katanas, 3 Mordus Bobcats, 1 Mordus Cheetah and 2 Mordus Bounty Hunters must be destroyed in Masalle I dealt with them after a while, leaving the laggard who was still at 40k until last, in warped another wave, less ships but somewhat harder ships, as they were closing I unleashed a mass of drones, these kept some of them busy whilst I MWD out to a greater range.As the drones wacked the last ship in warped another wave, now things are looking serious, I kill this wave and I,m struggling into armour now. Heart pounding as the final two it turns out to be,warp in close range,I deal with one but just cant seem to finish the lion, my heart thumping HAVE to warp out without my drones as im in serious pooh now, down to 360 structure I limp into station. I click on repair (foolish c*** up 1) I think it says 600k ( I forgot to have repairers working as my cap was virtually bugger all at this point) clicked repair and later noticed it was 6 MIL !!! So I returned, finished up the last rat and with time pressing picked up a couple of close containers and decided to warp back and claim mission reward. (Foolish c*** up 2) I was too far away from drones to pick em up, Wasps,Praetors,warriors etc 12 in all. thanks says the agent and pays me, so I figure on returning for the loot.( Foolish c*** up 3) forgot to bookmark the bloody location!!!! No Loot, considerable dent in my combat drone capability, stupid bloody repair bill....but I had done it so it could be seen as a phyrric victory in some ways but a good one nevertheless.
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:43:00 -
[365]
Having lost a Crow on my first try ...and having heard others had done it ...I went again ....and did it  
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OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

OFFT
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Posted - 2004.09.07 22:43:00 -
[366]
Having lost a Crow on my first try ...and having heard others had done it ...I went again ....and did it  
Link 1
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OFFT FORM LIFE :SIMPLE IN A COMPLICATED WAY Some players make EVE history : Other players are EVE history
"We cant all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and and clap as they go by"
scooooshcrumpzerump (c) Random RandomnesesesesÖ |

Droidster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:03:00 -
[367]
MORDU MISSION GOT NERFED?
I don't know if CCP changed this mission today or what but when I did it it was a lot easier than described above. I used a Thorax with 4x250mm, MWD, Sm armor repairer 2 plus cap/pg support (all necessary).
There was a warning in red that the mission was tough, but the toughest opponents were one Katana and some other cruiser which was more powerful than the Kantana but it looked like a Heron (with the two horns).
I only had to do the mission in two steps because I ran out of ammo. When I came back the first time there were two ships inside red squares and threatening messages appeared on the screen. Illogically I panicked and thought they were players and I warped out of there. When I warped back the two red squares were gone and just the one Katana was left (plus miscellaneous light missile boats, kestrels etc).
At the end the can of the Heron-like vessel which was the strongest ship had a +2 agility implant in it.
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Droidster
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Posted - 2004.09.08 02:03:00 -
[368]
MORDU MISSION GOT NERFED?
I don't know if CCP changed this mission today or what but when I did it it was a lot easier than described above. I used a Thorax with 4x250mm, MWD, Sm armor repairer 2 plus cap/pg support (all necessary).
There was a warning in red that the mission was tough, but the toughest opponents were one Katana and some other cruiser which was more powerful than the Kantana but it looked like a Heron (with the two horns).
I only had to do the mission in two steps because I ran out of ammo. When I came back the first time there were two ships inside red squares and threatening messages appeared on the screen. Illogically I panicked and thought they were players and I warped out of there. When I warped back the two red squares were gone and just the one Katana was left (plus miscellaneous light missile boats, kestrels etc).
At the end the can of the Heron-like vessel which was the strongest ship had a +2 agility implant in it.
_____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK. |

Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:50:00 -
[369]
There isnt one mordus mission. I just got my first one today and I had one of the most satisfying experiences ive ever had in eve. I battled this encounter off and on over a couple hours in my maller (tooled for fighting in close) including a retooling of my lazy lead ammo to antimatter. The final rat at the end was a 650,000 isk bounty with a pretty stiff guard.
Manifest was like this: Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Bobcats, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Jeras two Mordus Cheetahs and two Mordus Pumas must be destroyed in Jeras one Mordus Raid Leader, one Mordus Lion and three Mordus Katanas must be destroyed in Jeras
The two best drops were a +2 velocity implant and an arbalest assault launcher. Was a great experience. Though if these get very much harder the only viable cruiser set up will be one that fights from 40k.(thats to be expected and isnt neccessarily wrong thats called making a point to having a battleship) I had to warp off SEVERAL times fighting the final 650k rat and guard. I finally got ahead of the guard and got into his armor where i almost pushed it too long cause the bastard refused to die. I had to warp off with him on the line and return to finish the jump.
That makes it sound easy. It actually took several close calls to even get one where i got into the guys armor before having to warp off =) And that doesnt count the two times i tried to take out the 650k rat before i decided my only shot was to get the guard out of the way. very cool
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.09.08 04:50:00 -
[370]
There isnt one mordus mission. I just got my first one today and I had one of the most satisfying experiences ive ever had in eve. I battled this encounter off and on over a couple hours in my maller (tooled for fighting in close) including a retooling of my lazy lead ammo to antimatter. The final rat at the end was a 650,000 isk bounty with a pretty stiff guard.
Manifest was like this: Objectives ----------------------- To complete the mission, the following must be performed by you: five Mordus Katanas, two Mordus Bobcats, two Mordus Cheetahs and one Mordus Bounty Hunter must be destroyed in Jeras two Mordus Cheetahs and two Mordus Pumas must be destroyed in Jeras one Mordus Raid Leader, one Mordus Lion and three Mordus Katanas must be destroyed in Jeras
The two best drops were a +2 velocity implant and an arbalest assault launcher. Was a great experience. Though if these get very much harder the only viable cruiser set up will be one that fights from 40k.(thats to be expected and isnt neccessarily wrong thats called making a point to having a battleship) I had to warp off SEVERAL times fighting the final 650k rat and guard. I finally got ahead of the guard and got into his armor where i almost pushed it too long cause the bastard refused to die. I had to warp off with him on the line and return to finish the jump.
That makes it sound easy. It actually took several close calls to even get one where i got into the guys armor before having to warp off =) And that doesnt count the two times i tried to take out the 650k rat before i decided my only shot was to get the guard out of the way. very cool
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Andrue
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:38:00 -
[371]
Guys and gals..thank you all!
I came here this morning ready to confess cap in hand that I nearly failed an L3 mission in my 'Geddon and could some kind soul please help with my loadout and tactics. Then I see this thread, read most of it and think - I actually did quite well and my loadout is pretty good. 
At one point I was down to 30% armour and had to warp out but aside from making my hands shake a bit I survived unscathed. I don't think I ever got warp scrambelled but tbh I don't know. I just did what I always do:Warp in at 60 and let rip.
Maybe I got lucky and took things down in the right order. I don't remember the first target I got but it took a fair beating.
The ironic thing is that yesterday I was chatting to a friend and said that before I got into PvP in a BS I needed to get a feel for how much punishment one could take and could we organise a 1v1 to see 
All in all - I loved this mission. A real challenge. It'd be better if it hadn't been the last mission before I went to bed though. Took me ages to get to sleep  -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Andrue
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Posted - 2004.09.08 08:38:00 -
[372]
Guys and gals..thank you all!
I came here this morning ready to confess cap in hand that I nearly failed an L3 mission in my 'Geddon and could some kind soul please help with my loadout and tactics. Then I see this thread, read most of it and think - I actually did quite well and my loadout is pretty good. 
At one point I was down to 30% armour and had to warp out but aside from making my hands shake a bit I survived unscathed. I don't think I ever got warp scrambelled but tbh I don't know. I just did what I always do:Warp in at 60 and let rip.
Maybe I got lucky and took things down in the right order. I don't remember the first target I got but it took a fair beating.
The ironic thing is that yesterday I was chatting to a friend and said that before I got into PvP in a BS I needed to get a feel for how much punishment one could take and could we organise a 1v1 to see 
All in all - I loved this mission. A real challenge. It'd be better if it hadn't been the last mission before I went to bed though. Took me ages to get to sleep  -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |

Payn Bringer
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Posted - 2004.09.08 11:37:00 -
[373]
I must say, that after hearing all this talk about the mission, my heart missed a beat, when my favourite mission pusher told me that she had just the thing for me...
I instinctly looked at my bs insurance... It blatantly stated 50%, so a slip up couldturn out rather costly. Evaluating the risk vs. the reward, was it really worth the risk... Hell yeah 
"It's better to burn out than to fade away"
So I undocked and warped in...
What I found was an extremely aggresive Mordu Bounty Hunter, and numerous other ships standing idly by as sheeps waiting to be slaughtered... Yum yum meat for the grinder!
Got the BH in my sights, launched a volley of missiles, and topped it of with a barrage from my 425mm rails... After that, it was actually very easily done.
I did it by focusing on two things:
1. To kill the rats who could warp scramble me, leaving the others for later.
2. To remember to have the last rat at a distance when you kill it, since the death of the last rat determines the spawnpoint for the next wave of flying rodents.
Having that in mind, it was just the plain old 'Kill 'em All!'
But a very cool mission, and the hype build up around it really made it quite an experience... And I must admit, that my palms were getting sweaty as I prepared to warp out to engage the first wave 
Keep up the good work, and give us SHIVA!
BTW: I fly a Scorpion with the follwing setup.
HIGH: 3x425mm rail 1xHeavy ML 2xCruise ML MED: 3x Cap Recharge 2x Large Cap Battery 1x Large Shield Extender 1x Converse XL Shield Booster 1x MWD LOW: 1x Isulated Stabilizer Array I 3x Diag Sys
Quote: If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. Niccolo Machiavelli (1469 - 1527)
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Payn Bringer
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Posted - 2004.09.08 11:37:00 -
[374]
I must say, that after hearing all this talk about the mission, my heart missed a beat, when my favourite mission pusher told me that she had just the thing for me...
I instinctly looked at my bs insurance... It blatantly stated 50%, so a slip up couldturn out rather costly. Evaluating the risk vs. the reward, was it really worth the risk... Hell yeah 
"It's better to burn out than to fade away"
So I undocked and warped in...
What I found was an extremely aggresive Mordu Bounty Hunter, and numerous other ships standing idly by as sheeps waiting to be slaughtered... Yum yum meat for the grinder!
Got the BH in my sights, launched a volley of missiles, and topped it of with a barrage from my 425mm rails... After that, it was actually very easily done.
I did it by focusing on two things:
1. To kill the rats who could warp scramble me, leaving the others for later.
2. To remember to have the last rat at a distance when you kill it, since the death of the last rat determines the spawnpoint for the next wave of flying rodents.
Having that in mind, it was just the plain old 'Kill 'em All!'
But a very cool mission, and the hype build up around it really made it quite an experience... And I must admit, that my palms were getting sweaty as I prepared to warp out to engage the first wave 
Keep up the good work, and give us SHIVA!
BTW: I fly a Scorpion with the follwing setup.
HIGH: 3x425mm rail 1xHeavy ML 2xCruise ML MED: 3x Cap Recharge 2x Large Cap Battery 1x Large Shield Extender 1x Converse XL Shield Booster 1x MWD LOW: 1x Isulated Stabilizer Array I 3x Diag Sys
Quote: If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. Niccolo Machiavelli (1469 - 1527)
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Carter Burke
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:51:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Seliniah I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage.
That's the problem - "as usual." This mission isn't usual (with or without the big kicker at the end), which is why the big red block of text is there. While they said it somewhat rougher than I would have, the other posters here are correct - it was negligence that got your ship killed.
I fly a Dom as well, and while I came in at 60km, I still almost get killed every time I take this one on.
In the future, I would recommend you swap out your 250mms for blasters and an armor tank setup, and get a webber of your own and LOTS of drones. There is just no way your rails are going to have the tracking or your engines maintain the range to keep yourself in a place where you can kill the bad guys before they are all over you. A Dom is going to get swarmed, pure and simple, and you need the staying power to make sure that swarm doesn't kill you.
CB
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Carter Burke
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Posted - 2004.09.08 13:51:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Seliniah I typically warp in at 40k to be in range of my 250 rails. So I continued as usual. Warped in at 40k to see what I could engage.
That's the problem - "as usual." This mission isn't usual (with or without the big kicker at the end), which is why the big red block of text is there. While they said it somewhat rougher than I would have, the other posters here are correct - it was negligence that got your ship killed.
I fly a Dom as well, and while I came in at 60km, I still almost get killed every time I take this one on.
In the future, I would recommend you swap out your 250mms for blasters and an armor tank setup, and get a webber of your own and LOTS of drones. There is just no way your rails are going to have the tracking or your engines maintain the range to keep yourself in a place where you can kill the bad guys before they are all over you. A Dom is going to get swarmed, pure and simple, and you need the staying power to make sure that swarm doesn't kill you.
CB
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:10:00 -
[377]
I been in two different kinds of missions with warp scrambling and each time they tell you the exact name of the ship that will be warp scrampling.
Really they should have the rats use the same language players use so they will feel less obligated to warn. Each of these agent missions had a light ship that ran out quickly to warp scramble/web me me. Then for example for Mordus bounty hunter they might as well call it Mordus Tackler and save themselves some warning in the long run when players learn to recognize "tackler" in npc names. Anyway back to my point. Always read what ship has the tackle gear and take that out first and there isnt much problem along those lines.
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.09.08 16:10:00 -
[378]
I been in two different kinds of missions with warp scrambling and each time they tell you the exact name of the ship that will be warp scrampling.
Really they should have the rats use the same language players use so they will feel less obligated to warn. Each of these agent missions had a light ship that ran out quickly to warp scramble/web me me. Then for example for Mordus bounty hunter they might as well call it Mordus Tackler and save themselves some warning in the long run when players learn to recognize "tackler" in npc names. Anyway back to my point. Always read what ship has the tackle gear and take that out first and there isnt much problem along those lines.
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Tindel
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:23:00 -
[379]
I got my dominix yesterday and started doing missions with it instead of a thorax. After around 15 of em i finally got mordu mission my third time.
Sooooo easy, just as easy as blockade or gone berserk, the other multispawn missions. The bounty hunter dies as sooon as he gets in range of the drones, and the frigs survive a few rounds of fire, hardly had to use the repairer, took them a few mins to get through my shields. I didnt get that 650k guy this time either, starting get annoyed :P
Setup was 6x 250 rails with antimatter, optimal around 18k mwd webber + cap thingys 1large armor rep 1thermic hard 1kinetic hard 1damage mod cap thingys
and like 10 ogres, i have 2.6mill sp aimed toward combat
Y helo thar
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Tindel
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:23:00 -
[380]
I got my dominix yesterday and started doing missions with it instead of a thorax. After around 15 of em i finally got mordu mission my third time.
Sooooo easy, just as easy as blockade or gone berserk, the other multispawn missions. The bounty hunter dies as sooon as he gets in range of the drones, and the frigs survive a few rounds of fire, hardly had to use the repairer, took them a few mins to get through my shields. I didnt get that 650k guy this time either, starting get annoyed :P
Setup was 6x 250 rails with antimatter, optimal around 18k mwd webber + cap thingys 1large armor rep 1thermic hard 1kinetic hard 1damage mod cap thingys
and like 10 ogres, i have 2.6mill sp aimed toward combat
Y helo thar
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:31:00 -
[381]
The rats in mordus do quite a bit more damage then the rats of blockade. They die about the same. I wouldnt say its the same as blockade though cause there are configs that will not break a sweat on blockade but will have a bit of trouble on mordus.
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Qutsemnie
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:31:00 -
[382]
The rats in mordus do quite a bit more damage then the rats of blockade. They die about the same. I wouldnt say its the same as blockade though cause there are configs that will not break a sweat on blockade but will have a bit of trouble on mordus.
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Tisti
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:51:00 -
[383]
Just got this mission the first time today... Done it in a Moa in half an hour...
Its not a hard mission realy.. If you count that i got 2MIl of bounty out of it and a +2 Velocity implnat
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Tisti
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Posted - 2004.09.08 18:51:00 -
[384]
Just got this mission the first time today... Done it in a Moa in half an hour...
Its not a hard mission realy.. If you count that i got 2MIl of bounty out of it and a +2 Velocity implnat
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:27:00 -
[385]
Fairly sure they've made it a bit easier, before the warning came in I normally got 2 bounty hunters, since the changed it to have the warning I've only had 1 bounty hunter.
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Celt Eireson
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Posted - 2004.09.08 21:27:00 -
[386]
Fairly sure they've made it a bit easier, before the warning came in I normally got 2 bounty hunters, since the changed it to have the warning I've only had 1 bounty hunter.
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.09.09 03:27:00 -
[387]
mh readed many posts here must say what are you guys doing?? when i got that mission first i had around 2,4 mills xps and a raven with normal fitting (and insured) i came to the nav and well was surprised a bit many ships but ok so far i was 60k away then i saw the elite frigs hitting the mwd so no porb sensor booster on target them and send them 2 greetings in form of paradise cruise the blowed up and that was it my shild was down to 50% all the time the single xlarge booster was doing nice work.blowed them all up and then the hard part came.... collect the loot of them all har har. really this mission is easy its no wonder you loose your ships if you gone take out wrong ships first
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Sabine Borgia
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Posted - 2004.09.09 03:27:00 -
[388]
mh readed many posts here must say what are you guys doing?? when i got that mission first i had around 2,4 mills xps and a raven with normal fitting (and insured) i came to the nav and well was surprised a bit many ships but ok so far i was 60k away then i saw the elite frigs hitting the mwd so no porb sensor booster on target them and send them 2 greetings in form of paradise cruise the blowed up and that was it my shild was down to 50% all the time the single xlarge booster was doing nice work.blowed them all up and then the hard part came.... collect the loot of them all har har. really this mission is easy its no wonder you loose your ships if you gone take out wrong ships first
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:30:00 -
[389]
When this mission first went live, there was no notice of the bounty hunter ships engaging warp scrambling... that has only been added recently. Which, although not an excuse as to why people, including myself,have lost ships certainly goes some way towards explaining how it is possible for them to target the "wrong" ships first: only retrospectively wishing 'we' had done it differently. But the loss of a ship is no biggie... just sets you back half an hour or so.
Interesting times await... |

Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2004.09.09 11:30:00 -
[390]
When this mission first went live, there was no notice of the bounty hunter ships engaging warp scrambling... that has only been added recently. Which, although not an excuse as to why people, including myself,have lost ships certainly goes some way towards explaining how it is possible for them to target the "wrong" ships first: only retrospectively wishing 'we' had done it differently. But the loss of a ship is no biggie... just sets you back half an hour or so.
Interesting times await... |
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Tragar
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:58:00 -
[391]
Just had my first run in with the Mordu's lot and thanks to the hints on here I went armed for bear. My Apoc's shield never went below 98%, I didn't launch one drone and I didn't need to fit a stab as the closest a rat got was 38k before going bang 
If you're interested, my setup for this one was:
High slots: 6x tachyon (standard fit with UV lens), 2x named heavy launchers Med slots: Named MWD, 3x Cap recharger II Low slots: Named Large Armour rep, 2x power diag II, 2x CPR, 2x energised adaptive nano membrane II.
Not my standard fitout by any means but it gave me the extra cap to stay at MWD plus keep the tachyons firing away with cap never going below 50%. |

Tragar
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Posted - 2004.09.09 12:58:00 -
[392]
Just had my first run in with the Mordu's lot and thanks to the hints on here I went armed for bear. My Apoc's shield never went below 98%, I didn't launch one drone and I didn't need to fit a stab as the closest a rat got was 38k before going bang 
If you're interested, my setup for this one was:
High slots: 6x tachyon (standard fit with UV lens), 2x named heavy launchers Med slots: Named MWD, 3x Cap recharger II Low slots: Named Large Armour rep, 2x power diag II, 2x CPR, 2x energised adaptive nano membrane II.
Not my standard fitout by any means but it gave me the extra cap to stay at MWD plus keep the tachyons firing away with cap never going below 50%. |

Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:20:00 -
[393]
I have run the Level 2 a half a dozen times now....I thought this was not too bad...somewhat challenging.....
Last...I found me a new Agent (Command Type)Level 3..never used one before...So I start running...4th mission in Mordus. In a Rupture...sure...what the worst that can happen..my ship blows up...so, what I will build a new if need be
I get into the first wave...OMFG...it is the best and worse mission I have ever done....Very challenging...Very Fun...and for a Cruiser, can be very painfull on your wallet...if you don't have a safe spot..especially when the waves warp in...
Thumbs UP to CCP on this one....best mission in the game...(good loot too )
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.09.09 13:20:00 -
[394]
I have run the Level 2 a half a dozen times now....I thought this was not too bad...somewhat challenging.....
Last...I found me a new Agent (Command Type)Level 3..never used one before...So I start running...4th mission in Mordus. In a Rupture...sure...what the worst that can happen..my ship blows up...so, what I will build a new if need be
I get into the first wave...OMFG...it is the best and worse mission I have ever done....Very challenging...Very Fun...and for a Cruiser, can be very painfull on your wallet...if you don't have a safe spot..especially when the waves warp in...
Thumbs UP to CCP on this one....best mission in the game...(good loot too )
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Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.09.09 19:41:00 -
[395]
I ahve done this mission about 5 or 6 times. NEVER been webbed or scrambled, even when I let the bounty hunter stay alive long enough to get close.
I have done the mission in: short ranged apoc with small lasers, very loong ranged apoc with mega pulses, long range thron with 350mm's up your nose Taranis with blasters. By far the most interresting way but still no challenge, as it's just orbit target a @ 500m, then switch to B etc etc etc.
Never been in a pinch with either setup, and frankly I find it boring as the rest of the lot.
Bring back Zor and the rest of the 7 in ONE mission.
WTB. Infifitrator I drones |

Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.09.09 19:41:00 -
[396]
I ahve done this mission about 5 or 6 times. NEVER been webbed or scrambled, even when I let the bounty hunter stay alive long enough to get close.
I have done the mission in: short ranged apoc with small lasers, very loong ranged apoc with mega pulses, long range thron with 350mm's up your nose Taranis with blasters. By far the most interresting way but still no challenge, as it's just orbit target a @ 500m, then switch to B etc etc etc.
Never been in a pinch with either setup, and frankly I find it boring as the rest of the lot.
Bring back Zor and the rest of the 7 in ONE mission.
WTB. Infifitrator I drones |

Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.10 17:18:00 -
[397]
It *****s me up to see all the people who are saying how hard that mission in Battleship and that it is impossible in the cruiser. Any mission with this number of enemies can be done easy at long range (as long there are no rat battleships). I did level 3 version of it 3 or 4 times already. First time, I got a bit of a rush because of reading this tread, so I took my Caracal thinking that it will be easier to blow intercepter with missles and it would allow me to stay farther away, plus my missle skills are high. Did it easy, had time to collect loot even and make the bonus mark. Then I tried it in the Rupture cruiser (gunnery skills are around 3-4), still peace of cake. Only issue was that it took a bit longer this time and I had to go back to station to report to my agent before looting cans.
A little mission walkthrough for Rupture:
warpin at 60k and aproach to Wingman or Bounty Hunter (whatever name of intecepter is). Once in range (51k for me), target lock him, set keep range, wait till ship turns away from him and start shooting. He accelerates towards you. Let him to get into your optimal shooting range (+5k) and hit MWD (Rupture can outrun it with MWD, so no need to run it constantly, just maintain the distance, keep range will alter your course properly). Couple minutes of chase and fight is over, rest of the ships are not much faster then regular rats and can be easlily kept at range without overtaxing capacitor. Just stay away from them (44k or so) and lob heavy missles and shoot nuclear or lead ammo from 720s. Mission done.
PS. I always have webber on my ship for short range fighting to conter bad tracking of 720s and I was sure I will need to use it in this mission, but I did not even need to. Strangely enough, havok missles could catch intercepter and of cause my guns also did :)
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.10 17:18:00 -
[398]
It *****s me up to see all the people who are saying how hard that mission in Battleship and that it is impossible in the cruiser. Any mission with this number of enemies can be done easy at long range (as long there are no rat battleships). I did level 3 version of it 3 or 4 times already. First time, I got a bit of a rush because of reading this tread, so I took my Caracal thinking that it will be easier to blow intercepter with missles and it would allow me to stay farther away, plus my missle skills are high. Did it easy, had time to collect loot even and make the bonus mark. Then I tried it in the Rupture cruiser (gunnery skills are around 3-4), still peace of cake. Only issue was that it took a bit longer this time and I had to go back to station to report to my agent before looting cans.
A little mission walkthrough for Rupture:
warpin at 60k and aproach to Wingman or Bounty Hunter (whatever name of intecepter is). Once in range (51k for me), target lock him, set keep range, wait till ship turns away from him and start shooting. He accelerates towards you. Let him to get into your optimal shooting range (+5k) and hit MWD (Rupture can outrun it with MWD, so no need to run it constantly, just maintain the distance, keep range will alter your course properly). Couple minutes of chase and fight is over, rest of the ships are not much faster then regular rats and can be easlily kept at range without overtaxing capacitor. Just stay away from them (44k or so) and lob heavy missles and shoot nuclear or lead ammo from 720s. Mission done.
PS. I always have webber on my ship for short range fighting to conter bad tracking of 720s and I was sure I will need to use it in this mission, but I did not even need to. Strangely enough, havok missles could catch intercepter and of cause my guns also did :)
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Kretin Arnon
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Posted - 2004.09.10 21:06:00 -
[399]
Funny to read people experience with this mission. Though we must conclude it's become a rather easy mission with the change. What I don't get is how somebody can brag about killing rats from 60+ km away, any fool can do that. No, the cool people try to minimise the distance to all rats most as possible so they don't have to spend 20-30 min collecting loot.
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Kretin Arnon
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Posted - 2004.09.10 21:06:00 -
[400]
Funny to read people experience with this mission. Though we must conclude it's become a rather easy mission with the change. What I don't get is how somebody can brag about killing rats from 60+ km away, any fool can do that. No, the cool people try to minimise the distance to all rats most as possible so they don't have to spend 20-30 min collecting loot.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.11 01:31:00 -
[401]
Edited by: Jemba'k Ko'cha on 11/09/2004 01:34:33 did it today...took me a while from 50km out but i did it no probs....found the lvl 3 blockade harder tbh. (Moa btw)
as long as you take out the bounty hunters first then get ure arse in gear and keep out of their heavy missile range u'll be fine. my kits far from pectacular (3 250mm scouts - tungsten, 2 malk heavy launchers 1 learge tech 2 shield booster, 1 10mn mwd, 2 cap jobbies and 4 power control things.
it will hurt if they get too close, but the aim of th game is to not let em :) -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |

Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.11 01:31:00 -
[402]
Edited by: Jemba'k Ko'cha on 11/09/2004 01:34:33 did it today...took me a while from 50km out but i did it no probs....found the lvl 3 blockade harder tbh. (Moa btw)
as long as you take out the bounty hunters first then get ure arse in gear and keep out of their heavy missile range u'll be fine. my kits far from pectacular (3 250mm scouts - tungsten, 2 malk heavy launchers 1 learge tech 2 shield booster, 1 10mn mwd, 2 cap jobbies and 4 power control things.
it will hurt if they get too close, but the aim of th game is to not let em :) -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |

Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.11 10:58:00 -
[403]
Also did it before DT today. If it would've took 2 minutes more I would've missed the time bonus. Good loot, plus nice reward when counting in bountys. I kept them all the time further than 20km and kept shooting missiles from my caracal. Shields were never below 30 % even I had MWD.
Yup, when I took blockade mission in my BS I had to retreat for a while to recharge shields. Although I did not dare to try mordu on that because it wasn't insured.
In general lvl 3 missions gives some challenge and that's good.
forgive our sins that we are about to commit |

Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.11 10:58:00 -
[404]
Also did it before DT today. If it would've took 2 minutes more I would've missed the time bonus. Good loot, plus nice reward when counting in bountys. I kept them all the time further than 20km and kept shooting missiles from my caracal. Shields were never below 30 % even I had MWD.
Yup, when I took blockade mission in my BS I had to retreat for a while to recharge shields. Although I did not dare to try mordu on that because it wasn't insured.
In general lvl 3 missions gives some challenge and that's good.
forgive our sins that we are about to commit |

RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:28:00 -
[405]
its too easy imo, way too easy, the original with like 11 40k rats was fun, now they've nerfed it, they nerfed the loot too :(
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.09.12 12:28:00 -
[406]
its too easy imo, way too easy, the original with like 11 40k rats was fun, now they've nerfed it, they nerfed the loot too :(
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Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2004.09.12 21:15:00 -
[407]
Done this mission again recently, and I must admit... it's not as good as the first time around. Now it just takes ages... Not really difficult at all anymore. /emote goes off into a corner and sulks.
Ah well... get over it.
Interesting times await... |

Janus Ovellian
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Posted - 2004.09.12 21:15:00 -
[408]
Done this mission again recently, and I must admit... it's not as good as the first time around. Now it just takes ages... Not really difficult at all anymore. /emote goes off into a corner and sulks.
Ah well... get over it.
Interesting times await... |

Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.09.12 22:53:00 -
[409]
Some people say there was a Mordu's Raid leader in the last wave. I only ever get the Leopard + other cruiser, has anyone had this mission with the Raid Leader in the last 3-5 days?
Maybe it's like the Gone Berserk mission where you have the chance for the 550k npc but only rarely get him. |

Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.09.12 22:53:00 -
[410]
Some people say there was a Mordu's Raid leader in the last wave. I only ever get the Leopard + other cruiser, has anyone had this mission with the Raid Leader in the last 3-5 days?
Maybe it's like the Gone Berserk mission where you have the chance for the 550k npc but only rarely get him. |
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.12 23:26:00 -
[411]
did it again tonight, im too slow atm but its easy enough to do without dying. the last 2 are the lion and the leopard 110k and 100k respectivly -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |

Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.12 23:26:00 -
[412]
did it again tonight, im too slow atm but its easy enough to do without dying. the last 2 are the lion and the leopard 110k and 100k respectivly -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |

Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.13 07:05:00 -
[413]
Done it twice. First time there was 650k rat called raid leader or something, but not on second time, only lions..
forgive our sins that we are about to commit |

Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2004.09.13 07:05:00 -
[414]
Done it twice. First time there was 650k rat called raid leader or something, but not on second time, only lions..
forgive our sins that we are about to commit |

Malfunctionv2
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Posted - 2004.09.13 14:26:00 -
[415]
Yeah the loot is awful. After yesterday's mission I have a nice collection of ship scanners...  
2004.08.25 23:39:52combatYour 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 496.8 damage. |

Malfunctionv2
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Posted - 2004.09.13 14:26:00 -
[416]
Yeah the loot is awful. After yesterday's mission I have a nice collection of ship scanners...  
2004.08.25 23:39:52combatYour 720mm Prototype I Siege Cannon perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 496.8 damage. |

Khained
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Posted - 2004.09.13 14:56:00 -
[417]
Got that mission last night, no leader but super fast web dudes and lions/cheetah's etc. had to warp out twice and come back but did it without getting podded in my caracal. worth noting - i have only been playing this game for 1 week! can't be that hard for you experienced guys!?
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Khained
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Posted - 2004.09.13 14:56:00 -
[418]
Got that mission last night, no leader but super fast web dudes and lions/cheetah's etc. had to warp out twice and come back but did it without getting podded in my caracal. worth noting - i have only been playing this game for 1 week! can't be that hard for you experienced guys!?
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2004.09.13 16:40:00 -
[419]
You get level 3 missions and have skills for a decent setup caracal, after playing for a week.. Pull the other one, mate its got bells on. ---:::---
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El Yatta
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Posted - 2004.09.13 16:40:00 -
[420]
You get level 3 missions and have skills for a decent setup caracal, after playing for a week.. Pull the other one, mate its got bells on. ---:::---
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Logan West
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Posted - 2004.09.13 23:38:00 -
[421]
Flying a caracal with Heavy Missiles is impossible within a week. Being able to do level 3 missions is even more impossible within one week. Geeze everyone in this damned game buys accounts. How is that fun?
"I solemnly swear never to camp a spawn, to twink a mule, to farm a mob. I will not beg for nerfs, or macro for money. I am a gamer, and I swear to have fun."
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Logan West
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Posted - 2004.09.13 23:38:00 -
[422]
Flying a caracal with Heavy Missiles is impossible within a week. Being able to do level 3 missions is even more impossible within one week. Geeze everyone in this damned game buys accounts. How is that fun?
"I solemnly swear never to camp a spawn, to twink a mule, to farm a mob. I will not beg for nerfs, or macro for money. I am a gamer, and I swear to have fun."
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2004.09.14 10:03:00 -
[423]
Edited by: Yeggstry on 14/09/2004 10:08:13 can anyone tell me their caracal setup for mordus missions? I've been having some problems with my setup (lost 2 caracals already in mordus missions) and wanted to know what someone that has completed the mission.
The last time I tried the mission was about 1 week and a half ago, and I now have some better skills/components, was wondering what you guys think to this setup...
3x XR-3200 heavy launchers 1x Limos heavy launcher 1x malkuth heavy launcher med. shield booster II med. shield extender II/ 10mn mwd (depending on power requirements) sensor booster I micro Cap recharger with 10x 150s warp core stabiliser ballistic control
Let me know what you think.
Thanks :)
p.s. all you whinging idiots that think the mission is too hard, dont do them if you dont like them, learn some skills and get some decent weapons, not noobing around in a bs with 1mil skillpoints.....
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2004.09.14 10:03:00 -
[424]
Edited by: Yeggstry on 14/09/2004 10:08:13 can anyone tell me their caracal setup for mordus missions? I've been having some problems with my setup (lost 2 caracals already in mordus missions) and wanted to know what someone that has completed the mission.
The last time I tried the mission was about 1 week and a half ago, and I now have some better skills/components, was wondering what you guys think to this setup...
3x XR-3200 heavy launchers 1x Limos heavy launcher 1x malkuth heavy launcher med. shield booster II med. shield extender II/ 10mn mwd (depending on power requirements) sensor booster I micro Cap recharger with 10x 150s warp core stabiliser ballistic control
Let me know what you think.
Thanks :)
p.s. all you whinging idiots that think the mission is too hard, dont do them if you dont like them, learn some skills and get some decent weapons, not noobing around in a bs with 1mil skillpoints.....
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Makor
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Posted - 2004.09.14 12:42:00 -
[425]
To Yeggstry,
Imho I think you should scratch the Extender, just go with the MWD - your setups purpose is to stay OUT of range. Also never mind about the warp core stabilizer, again, the longest range on a warp scrambler is 20k something right - so, you're going to be out at 45k or so anyways so what's the point in that? Instead, put in another ballistic control or a power diagnostics unit. I'd also scratch the sensor booster, your missiles fire slightly more than your targetting range but with the sensor booster your targetting range is MUCH farther than your actual range - there's really no point in that either. Put a cap recharger in there instead, that MWD is going to suck you dry.
Just my two cents :)
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Makor
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Posted - 2004.09.14 12:42:00 -
[426]
To Yeggstry,
Imho I think you should scratch the Extender, just go with the MWD - your setups purpose is to stay OUT of range. Also never mind about the warp core stabilizer, again, the longest range on a warp scrambler is 20k something right - so, you're going to be out at 45k or so anyways so what's the point in that? Instead, put in another ballistic control or a power diagnostics unit. I'd also scratch the sensor booster, your missiles fire slightly more than your targetting range but with the sensor booster your targetting range is MUCH farther than your actual range - there's really no point in that either. Put a cap recharger in there instead, that MWD is going to suck you dry.
Just my two cents :)
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:18:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Makor To Yeggstry,
Imho I think you should scratch the Extender, just go with the MWD - your setups purpose is to stay OUT of range. Also never mind about the warp core stabilizer, again, the longest range on a warp scrambler is 20k something right - so, you're going to be out at 45k or so anyways so what's the point in that? Instead, put in another ballistic control or a power diagnostics unit. I'd also scratch the sensor booster, your missiles fire slightly more than your targetting range but with the sensor booster your targetting range is MUCH farther than your actual range - there's really no point in that either. Put a cap recharger in there instead, that MWD is going to suck you dry.
Just my two cents :)
Thanks for your advice :)
I never thought of having a cap recharger in there, but I realise that the problem I was having in the first place was because i wasn't shooting at the right thing first (i.e. inty with warp scrambler) and when I tried to use my MWD I couldn't get away.... by that time I'd run out of capacitor charge so was a bit screwed :/
At least I know the tactics I should deploy, and will let you know how it goes :)
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2004.09.14 14:18:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Makor To Yeggstry,
Imho I think you should scratch the Extender, just go with the MWD - your setups purpose is to stay OUT of range. Also never mind about the warp core stabilizer, again, the longest range on a warp scrambler is 20k something right - so, you're going to be out at 45k or so anyways so what's the point in that? Instead, put in another ballistic control or a power diagnostics unit. I'd also scratch the sensor booster, your missiles fire slightly more than your targetting range but with the sensor booster your targetting range is MUCH farther than your actual range - there's really no point in that either. Put a cap recharger in there instead, that MWD is going to suck you dry.
Just my two cents :)
Thanks for your advice :)
I never thought of having a cap recharger in there, but I realise that the problem I was having in the first place was because i wasn't shooting at the right thing first (i.e. inty with warp scrambler) and when I tried to use my MWD I couldn't get away.... by that time I'd run out of capacitor charge so was a bit screwed :/
At least I know the tactics I should deploy, and will let you know how it goes :)
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.14 18:53:00 -
[429]
here is my setup with Caracal for this mission:
5 heavy missle launchers 10mnMWD/100mnAB, Med Shield Booster tech 2, Webber, Cap recharger. PDU/RCU/Ballistic Controls in lows as nessesary.
In this setup, you can outrun most of the rats fairly easy, 100mn AB with right skills allows you to run it constantly, MWD will not but it gives you more speed, so it just requires a bit more micromanagement but it allows you to use ballistic control in low in slow which othervise taken by RCU or PDU.
When you warp in, lock intercepter, launch missles, wait for it to close in, web him and after second valley he will be dead or almost dead. After that, just kill the rest of them one by one with missles from 50k range. Nice and simple. fast ones (like ofspreys) first so you do not have to run MWD too much.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.14 18:53:00 -
[430]
here is my setup with Caracal for this mission:
5 heavy missle launchers 10mnMWD/100mnAB, Med Shield Booster tech 2, Webber, Cap recharger. PDU/RCU/Ballistic Controls in lows as nessesary.
In this setup, you can outrun most of the rats fairly easy, 100mn AB with right skills allows you to run it constantly, MWD will not but it gives you more speed, so it just requires a bit more micromanagement but it allows you to use ballistic control in low in slow which othervise taken by RCU or PDU.
When you warp in, lock intercepter, launch missles, wait for it to close in, web him and after second valley he will be dead or almost dead. After that, just kill the rest of them one by one with missles from 50k range. Nice and simple. fast ones (like ofspreys) first so you do not have to run MWD too much.
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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Posted - 2004.09.14 23:51:00 -
[431]
Edited by: Belshazzur Nephilim on 14/09/2004 23:54:48 I've had this mission three times so far and I lost a cruiser on the first one and it was all my fault, not CCP. What you have to do is concentrate on the Assault frigates first before they MWD in close to you to web you up. They are hard due to their advanced repairing set up, so my advice is to take out the assault frigates at a distance greater than 12KM by first killing their shields with EM cruise missiles or a massive volley of heavy missiles, then puncture their ship hulls.
On the first mission, 2 frigates web statis me at 10KM while the rest of the bastards closed in for the kill. The second mission, I watched how close they got and I dealt massive damage to them but as they closed in below 15KM, I set a book mark and warped out. I then returned to the new book mark I just made at about 60KM hammered their lame arses until they were unable to return a response to me. The remaining ships were easy as pie after the Assault frigates were sent to the spirit world.
I hope this helps.
-------------------------- Belshazzur Nephilim O-N-C-O-R Oracles of the Nephilim
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Belshazzur Nephilim
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Posted - 2004.09.14 23:51:00 -
[432]
Edited by: Belshazzur Nephilim on 14/09/2004 23:54:48 I've had this mission three times so far and I lost a cruiser on the first one and it was all my fault, not CCP. What you have to do is concentrate on the Assault frigates first before they MWD in close to you to web you up. They are hard due to their advanced repairing set up, so my advice is to take out the assault frigates at a distance greater than 12KM by first killing their shields with EM cruise missiles or a massive volley of heavy missiles, then puncture their ship hulls.
On the first mission, 2 frigates web statis me at 10KM while the rest of the bastards closed in for the kill. The second mission, I watched how close they got and I dealt massive damage to them but as they closed in below 15KM, I set a book mark and warped out. I then returned to the new book mark I just made at about 60KM hammered their lame arses until they were unable to return a response to me. The remaining ships were easy as pie after the Assault frigates were sent to the spirit world.
I hope this helps.
-------------------------- Belshazzur Nephilim O-N-C-O-R Oracles of the Nephilim
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Jacob Vought
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Posted - 2004.09.15 00:57:00 -
[433]
I do all my missions in a Caracal. I only get one version of this mission, but the spawn types can change out. Only once did I encounter a 650k Raid Leader. He died with only putting about 10 more scourges in him than a 100k Moa. But I did notice that when I did that mission, I noticed someone had that exact same mission in the exact same spot. That could make it hairy, but my staying alive is due to the long arm of the Caracal and a handy MWD.
I really don't find any level 3 missions terribly challenging, but I've never had a blockade mission and I hear those are more difficult.
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Jacob Vought
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Posted - 2004.09.15 00:57:00 -
[434]
I do all my missions in a Caracal. I only get one version of this mission, but the spawn types can change out. Only once did I encounter a 650k Raid Leader. He died with only putting about 10 more scourges in him than a 100k Moa. But I did notice that when I did that mission, I noticed someone had that exact same mission in the exact same spot. That could make it hairy, but my staying alive is due to the long arm of the Caracal and a handy MWD.
I really don't find any level 3 missions terribly challenging, but I've never had a blockade mission and I hear those are more difficult.
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Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.15 08:48:00 -
[435]
did a lvl 3 blockade last night, corp members warned me to be careful. but it ended after 3 spawns and was a piece of ****. i can only assume i got a short version or soemthing. -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |

Jemba'k Ko'cha
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Posted - 2004.09.15 08:48:00 -
[436]
did a lvl 3 blockade last night, corp members warned me to be careful. but it ended after 3 spawns and was a piece of ****. i can only assume i got a short version or soemthing. -------------------------------------------
Knowledge is the bomb |

Khained
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Posted - 2004.09.16 11:32:00 -
[437]
Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:46:16 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:45:12 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:38:21 hmm fellas, i hate to shatter your illusions but i have only been playing this now for a little over a week and i have a caldari navy standing (inc. connections) that lets me use all lvl 3 agents - hell im almost onto lvl 4's as i type this!. Please feel free to check my character in game (even tho i'm a n00b i think it shows character creation date). I have a caracal and 22 million spare atm (even after helping some of my clan mates with millions when they started too). Yes a mate helped me by giving me a million when i first started and bought me a good skill pack, but no - i haven't bought this account, nor played the game before! I just play a LOT and in all games have always been a grinder. Sad to see ppl calling me a liar! Not everyone who plays this spends their time sitting around asteroids with their thumb up their ass! ;) And i work full time!
For info, i've had that mordus mission about 5 times now and i can't believe ppl have been whinging here, is this the forum for people who aren't very good at games? Would seem so with the mordus whinging, and people finding it hard to believe someone can get lvl 3 missions/caracal in around a week ...
oh, and here's my caracal setup for whomever asked above (attainable in around a week):
high 4x malkuth heavy launcher 1x limos heavy launcher
med 1x 10mn MWD 1x named 32.5% kinetic hardener (probly not the best for mordus, but hell im a noob!) 1x named shield extender (something barrier, gives +440 shield) 1x medium shield booster
low 1x photonic CPU 1x overdrive
edit: ok perhaps i was nearer 10 days when i first did the mordus mission (checking back to the date my first post on my clan forum with regards to starting playing eve). i've now been playing 14 days ..
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Khained
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Posted - 2004.09.16 11:32:00 -
[438]
Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:46:16 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:45:12 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:38:21 hmm fellas, i hate to shatter your illusions but i have only been playing this now for a little over a week and i have a caldari navy standing (inc. connections) that lets me use all lvl 3 agents - hell im almost onto lvl 4's as i type this!. Please feel free to check my character in game (even tho i'm a n00b i think it shows character creation date). I have a caracal and 22 million spare atm (even after helping some of my clan mates with millions when they started too). Yes a mate helped me by giving me a million when i first started and bought me a good skill pack, but no - i haven't bought this account, nor played the game before! I just play a LOT and in all games have always been a grinder. Sad to see ppl calling me a liar! Not everyone who plays this spends their time sitting around asteroids with their thumb up their ass! ;) And i work full time!
For info, i've had that mordus mission about 5 times now and i can't believe ppl have been whinging here, is this the forum for people who aren't very good at games? Would seem so with the mordus whinging, and people finding it hard to believe someone can get lvl 3 missions/caracal in around a week ...
oh, and here's my caracal setup for whomever asked above (attainable in around a week):
high 4x malkuth heavy launcher 1x limos heavy launcher
med 1x 10mn MWD 1x named 32.5% kinetic hardener (probly not the best for mordus, but hell im a noob!) 1x named shield extender (something barrier, gives +440 shield) 1x medium shield booster
low 1x photonic CPU 1x overdrive
edit: ok perhaps i was nearer 10 days when i first did the mordus mission (checking back to the date my first post on my clan forum with regards to starting playing eve). i've now been playing 14 days ..
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pardux
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Posted - 2004.09.16 13:57:00 -
[439]
this mission is to easy i only need something other than drones on the first wave
an armor tanked tempest is enough for this + 6 ogres i use cruise missiles for the bounty hunter and 800mm for the cruisers in the first wave then i begin picking up the loot i tank the rest of them with 1 medium accomadation armor repairer - I finaly got above 2.5mill sp yesterday . all lvl3 missions are easy Fluffy carebear (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

pardux
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Posted - 2004.09.16 13:57:00 -
[440]
this mission is to easy i only need something other than drones on the first wave
an armor tanked tempest is enough for this + 6 ogres i use cruise missiles for the bounty hunter and 800mm for the cruisers in the first wave then i begin picking up the loot i tank the rest of them with 1 medium accomadation armor repairer - I finaly got above 2.5mill sp yesterday . all lvl3 missions are easy Fluffy carebear (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2004.09.17 09:07:00 -
[441]
Edited by: Yeggstry on 17/09/2004 17:50:45 did it :D manage to do it thanks to Makor's advice on my setup :)
Here is the setup I used:
5x XR-3200s using scourge, 12.58 reload time medium shield booster II 10mn mwd F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Recharger (11.5%) micro brief capacitor overcharge with 100 caps
Marked generator refitting: Diagnostic System Ballistic control
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2004.09.17 09:07:00 -
[442]
Edited by: Yeggstry on 17/09/2004 17:50:45 did it :D manage to do it thanks to Makor's advice on my setup :)
Here is the setup I used:
5x XR-3200s using scourge, 12.58 reload time medium shield booster II 10mn mwd F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Recharger (11.5%) micro brief capacitor overcharge with 100 caps
Marked generator refitting: Diagnostic System Ballistic control
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Jewels Verne
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Posted - 2004.09.17 11:53:00 -
[443]
its always amazing to me the peeps complain about getting destoyed in a mission they have not seen before. seems to me that any good pilot that is going someplace never before seen, would want to be cautious.
wake up peeps, this is space! and alot of it is unkown and uncharted....use caution.
besides the mobs in the mission, there could be(gasp) pirates about. just waiting on u to start your mission. 
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Jewels Verne
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Posted - 2004.09.17 11:53:00 -
[444]
its always amazing to me the peeps complain about getting destoyed in a mission they have not seen before. seems to me that any good pilot that is going someplace never before seen, would want to be cautious.
wake up peeps, this is space! and alot of it is unkown and uncharted....use caution.
besides the mobs in the mission, there could be(gasp) pirates about. just waiting on u to start your mission. 
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2004.09.17 17:03:00 -
[445]
Actually I havent done this mission in a few weeks but I found it a blast with a so-so Rupture set-up. It was something like 3 720 mms, 1 assualt launcher, 2 hvy launchers, 2 shield hardeners, 1 10 mn AB and most of my low slots dotted with damage & tracking mods. About 3/4 of the way through the mission I ran out of hvy missiles and the closest ones for sale were 7 jumps away and I had to rely on drones and guns to finish up the mission.I know this isn't the best setup for this mission but it sure made it a blast.
For those that say its too easy, spice it up by trying wierd and unconventional set-ups. I find agents missions are the most fun seeing how you can tackle them in either the smallest ship you have or in a very crappy set-up. After all these are only NPC and not very smart. If I did all my missions in one of my battleships I would find them very boring.
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2004.09.17 17:03:00 -
[446]
Actually I havent done this mission in a few weeks but I found it a blast with a so-so Rupture set-up. It was something like 3 720 mms, 1 assualt launcher, 2 hvy launchers, 2 shield hardeners, 1 10 mn AB and most of my low slots dotted with damage & tracking mods. About 3/4 of the way through the mission I ran out of hvy missiles and the closest ones for sale were 7 jumps away and I had to rely on drones and guns to finish up the mission.I know this isn't the best setup for this mission but it sure made it a blast.
For those that say its too easy, spice it up by trying wierd and unconventional set-ups. I find agents missions are the most fun seeing how you can tackle them in either the smallest ship you have or in a very crappy set-up. After all these are only NPC and not very smart. If I did all my missions in one of my battleships I would find them very boring.
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Crou
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Posted - 2004.09.17 18:57:00 -
[447]
Edited by: Crou on 17/09/2004 19:01:21
Originally by: Yeggstry Edited by: Yeggstry on 17/09/2004 17:50:45 did it :D manage to do it thanks to Makor's advice on my setup :)
Here is the setup I used:
5x XR-3200s using scourge, 12.58 reload time medium shield booster II 10mn mwd F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Recharger (11.5%) micro brief capacitor overcharge with 100 caps
Marked generator refitting: Diagnostic System Ballistic control
5x arbalest +scourge 100mn lif ab t2 med booster shield amp named cap recharger 2 power diags
med slots will only be needed in missions where rats spawn less than 40km from you, so you can use just about anything there the ab is enough to always stay away from the harms way since nothing but a raven can kill u in missions exciting isnt it
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Crou
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Posted - 2004.09.17 18:57:00 -
[448]
Edited by: Crou on 17/09/2004 19:01:21
Originally by: Yeggstry Edited by: Yeggstry on 17/09/2004 17:50:45 did it :D manage to do it thanks to Makor's advice on my setup :)
Here is the setup I used:
5x XR-3200s using scourge, 12.58 reload time medium shield booster II 10mn mwd F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Recharger (11.5%) micro brief capacitor overcharge with 100 caps
Marked generator refitting: Diagnostic System Ballistic control
5x arbalest +scourge 100mn lif ab t2 med booster shield amp named cap recharger 2 power diags
med slots will only be needed in missions where rats spawn less than 40km from you, so you can use just about anything there the ab is enough to always stay away from the harms way since nothing but a raven can kill u in missions exciting isnt it
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:09:00 -
[449]
Ares, orbit at 25km firing piranha light missiles
(even for the lvl 3 mordu's)
It has them sitting in a pack chasing their tales, also makes it eays for loot pickup as cans are usually right next to each other
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2004.09.18 00:09:00 -
[450]
Ares, orbit at 25km firing piranha light missiles
(even for the lvl 3 mordu's)
It has them sitting in a pack chasing their tales, also makes it eays for loot pickup as cans are usually right next to each other
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.09.18 01:58:00 -
[451]
Just did the mordu mission without the 650k guy in an armoured blasterax. 5 light neutrons and 1600mm armour plate. Hard work (had to warp out 4 times in all) but once the first wave is done the rest aint to bad. The last wave is the easiest!
Dindnt bother with the drones either, cause i knew id prolly have to warp out and therefore lose em.
Anyway, nivce mission ccp, shame about the crappy loot :( _______________________________
Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Zatuko
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Posted - 2004.09.18 01:58:00 -
[452]
Just did the mordu mission without the 650k guy in an armoured blasterax. 5 light neutrons and 1600mm armour plate. Hard work (had to warp out 4 times in all) but once the first wave is done the rest aint to bad. The last wave is the easiest!
Dindnt bother with the drones either, cause i knew id prolly have to warp out and therefore lose em.
Anyway, nivce mission ccp, shame about the crappy loot :( _______________________________
Th3 CHee5E......5T@Y 4w4y PHr0m +EH cH33S3!
[ 2004.09.12 00:37:04 ] (combat) Your Modal Light Neutron Particle Accelerator I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravisher, wrecking for 226.6 damage.
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Strick 9
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Posted - 2004.09.18 11:42:00 -
[453]
Well I have had that mission several times last ship to kill the 650k moa . imo that mission is weak ive done it in a thorax several times and in a bs a few times. I think some people need to look at ship equipment and learn how to set a ship up. Anyone ever used a Warpcore stabalizer...?? or how bout close range weapons...??..only problem I see is tomany people rushing into Battleships without the proper skills. thats my just my 2 cents...and if people are complaining about L3 agents the forums are really gonna be filled with complaints when L4s come out because people will try and solo a mission get spanked lose their ship then cry because they made a big mistake..Feel the water befor you jump in it might be to hot and you will get burned...!!! Use Caution did people not Notice the red print in the mission description..?
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Strick 9
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Posted - 2004.09.18 11:42:00 -
[454]
Well I have had that mission several times last ship to kill the 650k moa . imo that mission is weak ive done it in a thorax several times and in a bs a few times. I think some people need to look at ship equipment and learn how to set a ship up. Anyone ever used a Warpcore stabalizer...?? or how bout close range weapons...??..only problem I see is tomany people rushing into Battleships without the proper skills. thats my just my 2 cents...and if people are complaining about L3 agents the forums are really gonna be filled with complaints when L4s come out because people will try and solo a mission get spanked lose their ship then cry because they made a big mistake..Feel the water befor you jump in it might be to hot and you will get burned...!!! Use Caution did people not Notice the red print in the mission description..?
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.09.18 11:58:00 -
[455]
aye, I agree on with Strick 9. I use an armortanked raven with 2large nos and 6x heavy missile launchers and I can handle those missions just fine. I mean...heavy missiles...come one, that mission is so easy.
But I do jump in on 60km and try to take em down 1 by 1, not all at the same time.
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2004.09.18 11:58:00 -
[456]
aye, I agree on with Strick 9. I use an armortanked raven with 2large nos and 6x heavy missile launchers and I can handle those missions just fine. I mean...heavy missiles...come one, that mission is so easy.
But I do jump in on 60km and try to take em down 1 by 1, not all at the same time.
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Arbitos
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:58:00 -
[457]
I haven't done missions in a while and been playing with setups on my Crow. Was bored so decided to take a mission and got this one, first mission in a long time.....
Fortunately it had in big red writing about some ships warp and web. So went it at 60Km to evaluate what was there...
Next thing i know one of them is coming at me real fast, so go the other way and keep 25km whilst spamming Kinetics, he didn't last long.
Then did the same for the 5 other frigs, they didn't last long.. Then took on the Cruisers 1 at a time orbitting at high speed and webbing, takes a while, but when you're not being hit.. who cares?
To make the mission even better got some real good named small launchers and 'scout' small rails etc..
The funny thing is, If I'd have turned up in my BS unprepared I prob would have been webbed and warped and fryed in seconds. You gotta love interceptors :-)

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Arbitos
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Posted - 2004.09.19 16:58:00 -
[458]
I haven't done missions in a while and been playing with setups on my Crow. Was bored so decided to take a mission and got this one, first mission in a long time.....
Fortunately it had in big red writing about some ships warp and web. So went it at 60Km to evaluate what was there...
Next thing i know one of them is coming at me real fast, so go the other way and keep 25km whilst spamming Kinetics, he didn't last long.
Then did the same for the 5 other frigs, they didn't last long.. Then took on the Cruisers 1 at a time orbitting at high speed and webbing, takes a while, but when you're not being hit.. who cares?
To make the mission even better got some real good named small launchers and 'scout' small rails etc..
The funny thing is, If I'd have turned up in my BS unprepared I prob would have been webbed and warped and fryed in seconds. You gotta love interceptors :-)

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Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.09.26 09:16:00 -
[459]
I did this mission yesterday, i was quite surprised at its difficulty but my megathron handled it quite easily, i got down to 50% sheild and didnt have to warp out.
I had a bit of a muck about setup on which might explain it:
6 x 425mm Rails with antimatter ammo :) 2 x Advanced limos Heavies
1 x MWD :S 1 x Cap recharger 2 2 x Tracking Computer I
2 x Tracking Enhancer II 1 x Magnetic Feild Stab II 1 x Medium Armor repair :S 2 x PDU II 1 x Photonic CPU Enhancer I
I didnt even have enough cap to run the repairer :D
I wasnt really expecting the missions to even be slightly hard. :) (The rest werent)
Just kill the ship that comes at u fastest, thats the 1 that will web u, kill it and your free to warp in and out. (I used my MWD to get out of range most of the time though and drones helped).
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.09.26 09:16:00 -
[460]
I did this mission yesterday, i was quite surprised at its difficulty but my megathron handled it quite easily, i got down to 50% sheild and didnt have to warp out.
I had a bit of a muck about setup on which might explain it:
6 x 425mm Rails with antimatter ammo :) 2 x Advanced limos Heavies
1 x MWD :S 1 x Cap recharger 2 2 x Tracking Computer I
2 x Tracking Enhancer II 1 x Magnetic Feild Stab II 1 x Medium Armor repair :S 2 x PDU II 1 x Photonic CPU Enhancer I
I didnt even have enough cap to run the repairer :D
I wasnt really expecting the missions to even be slightly hard. :) (The rest werent)
Just kill the ship that comes at u fastest, thats the 1 that will web u, kill it and your free to warp in and out. (I used my MWD to get out of range most of the time though and drones helped).
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Shlub
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Posted - 2004.09.26 09:41:00 -
[461]
I got this mission 2 times today for the first time, tried it in a Duramaller and failed and had to warp out and get help.
Setup was: Highs. 5 named medium beams Medium Nos
Meds. 100mn ab 2 medium cap batterys
Lows. 2 small t2 armor reps 1 thermal and 1 kinectic energized membranes 2 cap relays
If I swapped the membranes out for activated hardeners I might be able to handle it. It was just the first wave I struggled with, to many ships to tank ----------
"When You have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite" |

Shlub
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Posted - 2004.09.26 09:41:00 -
[462]
I got this mission 2 times today for the first time, tried it in a Duramaller and failed and had to warp out and get help.
Setup was: Highs. 5 named medium beams Medium Nos
Meds. 100mn ab 2 medium cap batterys
Lows. 2 small t2 armor reps 1 thermal and 1 kinectic energized membranes 2 cap relays
If I swapped the membranes out for activated hardeners I might be able to handle it. It was just the first wave I struggled with, to many ships to tank ----------
"When You have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite" |

Eli Whitney
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Posted - 2004.09.26 09:51:00 -
[463]
Just did it for the first time in my brand new crow. Wasn't hit the whole mission. It was very fun though, and I was sweating a few times (especially jumping in).
Setup:
Highs: 3x Arbalast Standard (bloodclaw)
Mid: Y8-S 10mn AB Small Shield Booster (converse or something, whatever I had laying around) Cap Recharger I
Low: Micro Aux Power Core Ballistic Control Cap Relay I
Warped in at 60km like I always do, started 15km orbit on the frigates and turned on ab. I actually killed all the katanas before I killed the bountyhunters.
So it was just let the launchers launch a few salvos, switch to next target, set orbit, turn on launchers. Rinse, and repeat.
Very fun, at the end of it I had maybe 10 missiles in each launcher, and 9 in my cargo hold. Started with 400 some at the begining of the 25 minute fight.
Decent loot. An XR-2000, and some named assult launchers. No implant, but any mission you can walk away from with ~3m in profit is nice in my book.
Some of you guys complain too much about loot for a few minutes effort.
Very fun mission. Even though I wasn't hit, I was sure I was going to lose a crow going into it. And if I get the mission again, I'll be just as scared. Thats alot of frigs to jump into, especially ones that can web and scram you.
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Eli Whitney
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Posted - 2004.09.26 09:51:00 -
[464]
Just did it for the first time in my brand new crow. Wasn't hit the whole mission. It was very fun though, and I was sweating a few times (especially jumping in).
Setup:
Highs: 3x Arbalast Standard (bloodclaw)
Mid: Y8-S 10mn AB Small Shield Booster (converse or something, whatever I had laying around) Cap Recharger I
Low: Micro Aux Power Core Ballistic Control Cap Relay I
Warped in at 60km like I always do, started 15km orbit on the frigates and turned on ab. I actually killed all the katanas before I killed the bountyhunters.
So it was just let the launchers launch a few salvos, switch to next target, set orbit, turn on launchers. Rinse, and repeat.
Very fun, at the end of it I had maybe 10 missiles in each launcher, and 9 in my cargo hold. Started with 400 some at the begining of the 25 minute fight.
Decent loot. An XR-2000, and some named assult launchers. No implant, but any mission you can walk away from with ~3m in profit is nice in my book.
Some of you guys complain too much about loot for a few minutes effort.
Very fun mission. Even though I wasn't hit, I was sure I was going to lose a crow going into it. And if I get the mission again, I'll be just as scared. Thats alot of frigs to jump into, especially ones that can web and scram you.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.09.26 11:02:00 -
[465]
Yeh im getting crap loot atm but i dont really care.
The rewards of a +3 memory implant once in 20 missions(ish) if im lucky is good enough for me.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.09.26 11:02:00 -
[466]
Yeh im getting crap loot atm but i dont really care.
The rewards of a +3 memory implant once in 20 missions(ish) if im lucky is good enough for me.
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Xiro
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Posted - 2004.09.26 14:41:00 -
[467]
wow khained, u did that all in little under 2 weeks.
your officially an eve super nerd, congratualtions. Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.." |

Xiro
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Posted - 2004.09.26 14:41:00 -
[468]
wow khained, u did that all in little under 2 weeks.
your officially an eve super nerd, congratualtions. Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.." |

Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:44:00 -
[469]
Originally by: Khained Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:46:16 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:45:12 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:38:21 hmm fellas, i hate to shatter your illusions but i have only been playing this now for a little over a week and i have a caldari navy standing (inc. connections) that lets me use all lvl 3 agents - hell im almost onto lvl 4's as i type this!. Please feel free to check my character in game (even tho i'm a n00b i think it shows character creation date). I have a caracal and 22 million spare atm (even after helping some of my clan mates with millions when they started too). Yes a mate helped me by giving me a million when i first started and bought me a good skill pack, but no - i haven't bought this account, nor played the game before! I just play a LOT and in all games have always been a grinder. Sad to see ppl calling me a liar! Not everyone who plays this spends their time sitting around asteroids with their thumb up their ass! ;) And i work full time!
For info, i've had that mordus mission about 5 times now and i can't believe ppl have been whinging here, is this the forum for people who aren't very good at games? Would seem so with the mordus whinging, and people finding it hard to believe someone can get lvl 3 missions/caracal in around a week ...
oh, and here's my caracal setup for whomever asked above (attainable in around a week):
high 4x malkuth heavy launcher 1x limos heavy launcher
med 1x 10mn MWD 1x named 32.5% kinetic hardener (probly not the best for mordus, but hell im a noob!) 1x named shield extender (something barrier, gives +440 shield) 1x medium shield booster
low 1x photonic CPU 1x overdrive
edit: ok perhaps i was nearer 10 days when i first did the mordus mission (checking back to the date my first post on my clan forum with regards to starting playing eve). i've now been playing 14 days ..
Im sorry but thats complete lies and your very immature for lieing about it. Unless u got 5 +3 implants theres no way in hell you trained frigate 4 navigation 4 missile op 3, afterburner 4, high speed meneauvering 1 and whatever cruiser skill not to mention hull upgrades and eletronics, sheild skills just to be able to use the things u put in your setup.
On top of that you need to get the caracal within a week then somehow get up to level 3 in the remaining time.
All that above with the minimum attributes is guna take way over 1 week. U also have connections which needs social level 3 bla bla bla. Either your drastically exagerating the time frame or your not doing missions at all and just completely lieing. You may play ALOT but that does not speed up your skill training.
Now if you somehow managed to turn that 1 million your mate gave u into 70-80 mil and bought 5 +3 implants i apologize completely.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2004.09.26 15:44:00 -
[470]
Originally by: Khained Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:46:16 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:45:12 Edited by: Khained on 16/09/2004 11:38:21 hmm fellas, i hate to shatter your illusions but i have only been playing this now for a little over a week and i have a caldari navy standing (inc. connections) that lets me use all lvl 3 agents - hell im almost onto lvl 4's as i type this!. Please feel free to check my character in game (even tho i'm a n00b i think it shows character creation date). I have a caracal and 22 million spare atm (even after helping some of my clan mates with millions when they started too). Yes a mate helped me by giving me a million when i first started and bought me a good skill pack, but no - i haven't bought this account, nor played the game before! I just play a LOT and in all games have always been a grinder. Sad to see ppl calling me a liar! Not everyone who plays this spends their time sitting around asteroids with their thumb up their ass! ;) And i work full time!
For info, i've had that mordus mission about 5 times now and i can't believe ppl have been whinging here, is this the forum for people who aren't very good at games? Would seem so with the mordus whinging, and people finding it hard to believe someone can get lvl 3 missions/caracal in around a week ...
oh, and here's my caracal setup for whomever asked above (attainable in around a week):
high 4x malkuth heavy launcher 1x limos heavy launcher
med 1x 10mn MWD 1x named 32.5% kinetic hardener (probly not the best for mordus, but hell im a noob!) 1x named shield extender (something barrier, gives +440 shield) 1x medium shield booster
low 1x photonic CPU 1x overdrive
edit: ok perhaps i was nearer 10 days when i first did the mordus mission (checking back to the date my first post on my clan forum with regards to starting playing eve). i've now been playing 14 days ..
Im sorry but thats complete lies and your very immature for lieing about it. Unless u got 5 +3 implants theres no way in hell you trained frigate 4 navigation 4 missile op 3, afterburner 4, high speed meneauvering 1 and whatever cruiser skill not to mention hull upgrades and eletronics, sheild skills just to be able to use the things u put in your setup.
On top of that you need to get the caracal within a week then somehow get up to level 3 in the remaining time.
All that above with the minimum attributes is guna take way over 1 week. U also have connections which needs social level 3 bla bla bla. Either your drastically exagerating the time frame or your not doing missions at all and just completely lieing. You may play ALOT but that does not speed up your skill training.
Now if you somehow managed to turn that 1 million your mate gave u into 70-80 mil and bought 5 +3 implants i apologize completely.
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Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2004.09.26 19:33:00 -
[471]
This mission is very easy in a battleship. You only need 3 midslots too, so an Armageddon works well. I use this setup... 5 heavy modulated pulse lasers 2 medium modulated pulse lasers 1 large smartbomb 1 kinetic shield hardner 1 thermal shield hardner 1 med c5-l shield booster 1 med armour rep. 1 heatsink II 3 cap power relays 1 kinetic energized armour 1 thermal energized armour 1 nanofiber (for speedy loot recovery) With this setup, warp to 40km and target the Mordus Bounty Hunter first. Use the 2 medium pulse lasers on him. As the others close in take out the cruisers first and then the normal frigates. Leave one Mordus Katana alive while you rebuild your shield and cap. With the two shield hardners, he wont be doing much damage at all! When ready, kill him off and then chase after the 2 Mordus Pumas that spawn, whilst using the 2 med pulse on the other cruiser that is with them. They dont last long against 5 heavy pulse! Finally, you have a Lion and a Leopard to deal with. Again, the 5 heavy pulse make short work of these. I personally cant wait for more content like this. As with all AI it is just a matter of working it out and fitting your ship correctly. Hope this helps
Fto Cruise, DSE Director.
Manufacturers of the 425mm Railgun II |

Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2004.09.26 19:33:00 -
[472]
This mission is very easy in a battleship. You only need 3 midslots too, so an Armageddon works well. I use this setup... 5 heavy modulated pulse lasers 2 medium modulated pulse lasers 1 large smartbomb 1 kinetic shield hardner 1 thermal shield hardner 1 med c5-l shield booster 1 med armour rep. 1 heatsink II 3 cap power relays 1 kinetic energized armour 1 thermal energized armour 1 nanofiber (for speedy loot recovery) With this setup, warp to 40km and target the Mordus Bounty Hunter first. Use the 2 medium pulse lasers on him. As the others close in take out the cruisers first and then the normal frigates. Leave one Mordus Katana alive while you rebuild your shield and cap. With the two shield hardners, he wont be doing much damage at all! When ready, kill him off and then chase after the 2 Mordus Pumas that spawn, whilst using the 2 med pulse on the other cruiser that is with them. They dont last long against 5 heavy pulse! Finally, you have a Lion and a Leopard to deal with. Again, the 5 heavy pulse make short work of these. I personally cant wait for more content like this. As with all AI it is just a matter of working it out and fitting your ship correctly. Hope this helps
Fto Cruise, DSE Director.
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Seewolve
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:57:00 -
[473]
i've done this mission many times in my crow ... the harder was to kill the 30k merlin (assault frig) but the remaining was easy.
Stop crying about a lost ship, buy another one and try to be a better fighter next time , your moma will not be there to give you your toy again ... Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Seewolve
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Posted - 2004.09.27 10:57:00 -
[474]
i've done this mission many times in my crow ... the harder was to kill the 30k merlin (assault frig) but the remaining was easy.
Stop crying about a lost ship, buy another one and try to be a better fighter next time , your moma will not be there to give you your toy again ... Ci Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Ron Jeremy2K
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Posted - 2004.09.27 13:56:00 -
[475]
I don't get what all the fuss is about on this mission i do it mostly in a caracal warp in at 60 and make sure i'm allways 40km away when i kill the last one so that it doesent spawn rigth on top of me just align to get out go full speed away from them and hurl missiles if they get to close hit your mwd to keap the range you won't even get scrached.
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Ron Jeremy2K
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Posted - 2004.09.27 13:56:00 -
[476]
I don't get what all the fuss is about on this mission i do it mostly in a caracal warp in at 60 and make sure i'm allways 40km away when i kill the last one so that it doesent spawn rigth on top of me just align to get out go full speed away from them and hurl missiles if they get to close hit your mwd to keap the range you won't even get scrached.
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Galroniii
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Posted - 2004.09.27 16:30:00 -
[477]
Hi
As was widely advertised, hit the frigs first, they carry EW kit. Raven's work well in this mission, the sheer volume of torps and cruises I pump out obliterate this lot. Use cruises and drones to kill any frigs quick, then enjoy the battle at a more leisurely pace with the big guys. My only complaint is there is often not enough time to pickup the loot and still make the bonus time.
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Galroniii
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Posted - 2004.09.27 16:30:00 -
[478]
Hi
As was widely advertised, hit the frigs first, they carry EW kit. Raven's work well in this mission, the sheer volume of torps and cruises I pump out obliterate this lot. Use cruises and drones to kill any frigs quick, then enjoy the battle at a more leisurely pace with the big guys. My only complaint is there is often not enough time to pickup the loot and still make the bonus time.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.27 21:53:00 -
[479]
guys, did you see that Bounty Hunter (intercepter) pulls back if he gets too far away? So it is fairly easy to keep away from him if your ship can pull just under 1k/s speed. Slower he will probably gain on you to quick, but if you can go this fast, after chasing you, he will turn back and then you can slow down, recharge capacitor all the while shooting at him (long range setups only). Just do not let him get away too fast, sometimes I actualy need to turn MWD to catch him again not to let him to regenerate.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.09.27 21:53:00 -
[480]
guys, did you see that Bounty Hunter (intercepter) pulls back if he gets too far away? So it is fairly easy to keep away from him if your ship can pull just under 1k/s speed. Slower he will probably gain on you to quick, but if you can go this fast, after chasing you, he will turn back and then you can slow down, recharge capacitor all the while shooting at him (long range setups only). Just do not let him get away too fast, sometimes I actualy need to turn MWD to catch him again not to let him to regenerate.
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Kaladryn
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Posted - 2004.10.01 00:36:00 -
[481]
Edited by: Kaladryn on 01/10/2004 00:38:52 Just did this mission, its REALLY easy in a battleship, although I will admit it seems to be the hardest agent mission, I'm 100% sure it would be simple my thorax also.
My whole concern is just getting them to die close to me so the stuff is easy to pick up. It sounds like maybe the original poster was going it without hardeners? But I still don't understand how this could have happened so fast, what about your drones? Don't you dump them first thing if warping in at 15km? (obviously you warped in at 15km from your description)
(edit: why would you use rails to do agent mission in a domi? the rats are all too weak to need range, and range just makes things harder for your drones and for picking up the loot)
Kaladryn |

Kaladryn
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Posted - 2004.10.01 00:36:00 -
[482]
Edited by: Kaladryn on 01/10/2004 00:38:52 Just did this mission, its REALLY easy in a battleship, although I will admit it seems to be the hardest agent mission, I'm 100% sure it would be simple my thorax also.
My whole concern is just getting them to die close to me so the stuff is easy to pick up. It sounds like maybe the original poster was going it without hardeners? But I still don't understand how this could have happened so fast, what about your drones? Don't you dump them first thing if warping in at 15km? (obviously you warped in at 15km from your description)
(edit: why would you use rails to do agent mission in a domi? the rats are all too weak to need range, and range just makes things harder for your drones and for picking up the loot)
Kaladryn |

Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.10.01 01:33:00 -
[483]
Kaladryn, the mission has been made easier, the original poster was refering to the original mission which was infact very hard even in a battleship. You would probably know if you had read to at least page 2 of this thread.
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Excavation Svcs
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Posted - 2004.10.01 01:33:00 -
[484]
Kaladryn, the mission has been made easier, the original poster was refering to the original mission which was infact very hard even in a battleship. You would probably know if you had read to at least page 2 of this thread.
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Kaladryn
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Posted - 2004.10.01 02:38:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Excavation Svcs You would probably know if you had read to at least page 2 of this thread.
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Kaladryn |

Kaladryn
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Posted - 2004.10.01 02:38:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Excavation Svcs You would probably know if you had read to at least page 2 of this thread.
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Kaladryn |

Alacrity
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Posted - 2004.10.01 07:18:00 -
[487]
Found the mission realy easy, warped in at 60k and my shields never dropped below 50%
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Alacrity
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Posted - 2004.10.01 07:18:00 -
[488]
Found the mission realy easy, warped in at 60k and my shields never dropped below 50%
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Pasqual
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:16:00 -
[489]
Did this mission in a blasterrax. Wish I'd read Zatuko's post first though because, as usual, I let go with 8 Ogres at the first spawn then lost them all because I had to keep warping out to repair. My fairly rubbish tactic was to warp in at 15K, kill a couple of ships then retreat and repair. This was safe enough in a Thorax but took the best part of an hour to complete the mission. Useful to have the warning to fit a WCS or I would have probably lost my ship (again)
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Pasqual
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Posted - 2004.10.01 09:16:00 -
[490]
Did this mission in a blasterrax. Wish I'd read Zatuko's post first though because, as usual, I let go with 8 Ogres at the first spawn then lost them all because I had to keep warping out to repair. My fairly rubbish tactic was to warp in at 15K, kill a couple of ships then retreat and repair. This was safe enough in a Thorax but took the best part of an hour to complete the mission. Useful to have the warning to fit a WCS or I would have probably lost my ship (again)
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Gun Kata
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Posted - 2004.10.01 18:41:00 -
[491]
I completed this mission in a Crow - I used over 600 light Bloodclaw missiles to do it. Kept my distance and all was fine. Never lost more than 10% of my shield. And that was the first time with this mission.
"I have seen everything now." "Yeah? Have you seen a man eat his own head?" |

Gun Kata
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Posted - 2004.10.01 18:41:00 -
[492]
I completed this mission in a Crow - I used over 600 light Bloodclaw missiles to do it. Kept my distance and all was fine. Never lost more than 10% of my shield. And that was the first time with this mission.
"I have seen everything now." "Yeah? Have you seen a man eat his own head?" |

Ranger 1
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Posted - 2004.10.01 22:10:00 -
[493]
Do we see a trend yet? Ships equiped to snipe from long range... or fast enough to stay outside webber of the Inty... do just fine. Those that don't fit the above criteria may have a problem, even with the mission toned down the way it is now.
Kill the enemy, and break their toys. |

Ranger 1
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Posted - 2004.10.01 22:10:00 -
[494]
Do we see a trend yet? Ships equiped to snipe from long range... or fast enough to stay outside webber of the Inty... do just fine. Those that don't fit the above criteria may have a problem, even with the mission toned down the way it is now.
Kill the enemy, and break their toys. |

MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.10.03 16:15:00 -
[495]
Quote: hmm fellas, i hate to shatter your illusions but i have only been playing this now for a little over a week and i have a caldari navy standing (inc. connections) that lets me use all lvl 3 agents - hell im almost onto lvl 4's as i type this!
Stupidest thing I`ve read for a long time. Let me know when you find a lvl 4 agent you can use cuz I havent seen any availble for the public yet. A week...  _____________________________________________
\o/ I got a siggy...
WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |

MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.10.03 16:15:00 -
[496]
Quote: hmm fellas, i hate to shatter your illusions but i have only been playing this now for a little over a week and i have a caldari navy standing (inc. connections) that lets me use all lvl 3 agents - hell im almost onto lvl 4's as i type this!
Stupidest thing I`ve read for a long time. Let me know when you find a lvl 4 agent you can use cuz I havent seen any availble for the public yet. A week...  _____________________________________________
\o/ I got a siggy...
WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.03 16:18:00 -
[497]
Shouldn't this thread be closed? The original issue has been resolved.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.10.03 16:18:00 -
[498]
Shouldn't this thread be closed? The original issue has been resolved.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Sherkaner
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Posted - 2004.10.04 09:25:00 -
[499]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Shouldn't this thread be closed? The original issue has been resolved.
Well, people are still talking about the Mordus mission ... more or less ... I'm watching the thread from time to time, but I see no reason to close it yet.
P.S.: You should really know by now that questions, comments or suggestions about moderation should go to [email protected] and not here in the forums 
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2004.10.04 09:25:00 -
[500]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Shouldn't this thread be closed? The original issue has been resolved.
Well, people are still talking about the Mordus mission ... more or less ... I'm watching the thread from time to time, but I see no reason to close it yet.
P.S.: You should really know by now that questions, comments or suggestions about moderation should go to [email protected] and not here in the forums 
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Dirus
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Posted - 2004.10.04 20:33:00 -
[501]
I've done the Mordus missions over 6 times now, and haven't had any troubles. The ones I get are usually a ton of frigs and ospreys in wave1, then few frigs and 4 cruisers in wave2, then another 4 cruisers in wave3, then sometimes another few cruisers in a 4th wave. (think thats it, might get it confused with other multi-wave missions).
I've done them in both an Apoc and a Crow. The Crow can easily avoid all the hits and kill everything, but takes a while (but looting afterwards is lightning fast). Using the Apoc, the first wave with all the frigs is a pain, but once the cruisers come along, they pop nicely at +40km. 
Even if this has been tuned down, I guess it could still catch people offguard (like when I let a frig get too close to my Apoc and forgot to bring drones).
But seriously, if one can kill them all in a inty without taking much damage, how hard can they be?  ********** Everyone deserves to die. You go first.
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Dirus
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Posted - 2004.10.04 20:33:00 -
[502]
I've done the Mordus missions over 6 times now, and haven't had any troubles. The ones I get are usually a ton of frigs and ospreys in wave1, then few frigs and 4 cruisers in wave2, then another 4 cruisers in wave3, then sometimes another few cruisers in a 4th wave. (think thats it, might get it confused with other multi-wave missions).
I've done them in both an Apoc and a Crow. The Crow can easily avoid all the hits and kill everything, but takes a while (but looting afterwards is lightning fast). Using the Apoc, the first wave with all the frigs is a pain, but once the cruisers come along, they pop nicely at +40km. 
Even if this has been tuned down, I guess it could still catch people offguard (like when I let a frig get too close to my Apoc and forgot to bring drones).
But seriously, if one can kill them all in a inty without taking much damage, how hard can they be?  ********** Everyone deserves to die. You go first.
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DrZukes
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:11:00 -
[503]
ive done the mission lots of times now, the fist couple of times were a bit hairy, especially when u get scrambled. The last time i had the mission offered to me, in the last wave there spawned a dominion legionaire 450k worth, I cut through it like warm butter....and all it dropped was a medium hull repairer!
bring on the lvl 4s ---------------------------
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DrZukes
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Posted - 2004.10.05 03:11:00 -
[504]
ive done the mission lots of times now, the fist couple of times were a bit hairy, especially when u get scrambled. The last time i had the mission offered to me, in the last wave there spawned a dominion legionaire 450k worth, I cut through it like warm butter....and all it dropped was a medium hull repairer!
bring on the lvl 4s ---------------------------
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.10.05 14:36:00 -
[505]
I've only got this a couple or few times at most........not complaining, but last night i got this and to my big surprise something new happened.
I clear like 3 or 4 waves, the next wave pops only one ship......so i close and shoot feverishly thinking it's the last wave. Close to about 30 and POP there he goes.
BLINK BLINK BLINK
about 6 or 7 ships spawn
ut oh ut oh .....uturn baby comon moooooove as the apoc strains to get turned and make tracks.
I notice at the bottom of list that there is a named mordu that has a 650k bounty.
Mordu Raid Leader
Dropped a hard wire implant.
Very nice pleasant surprise and a bit of a shocker.
i'm at work and didn't read thru all the pages so not sure if he's been spotted before, was a first i had heard about or seen for me.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.10.05 14:36:00 -
[506]
I've only got this a couple or few times at most........not complaining, but last night i got this and to my big surprise something new happened.
I clear like 3 or 4 waves, the next wave pops only one ship......so i close and shoot feverishly thinking it's the last wave. Close to about 30 and POP there he goes.
BLINK BLINK BLINK
about 6 or 7 ships spawn
ut oh ut oh .....uturn baby comon moooooove as the apoc strains to get turned and make tracks.
I notice at the bottom of list that there is a named mordu that has a 650k bounty.
Mordu Raid Leader
Dropped a hard wire implant.
Very nice pleasant surprise and a bit of a shocker.
i'm at work and didn't read thru all the pages so not sure if he's been spotted before, was a first i had heard about or seen for me.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.10.05 19:07:00 -
[507]
Interesting detail is that I did this mission at least 5 times in my Rupture and never got Raid Leader spawn. Last wave always was Panter and Lion.
Now I fly Typhoon and first Mordus mission i get gives me Raid Leader at the end. Ether it is interesting coincedence or spawn depends on what class of the ship you are in.
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.10.05 19:07:00 -
[508]
Interesting detail is that I did this mission at least 5 times in my Rupture and never got Raid Leader spawn. Last wave always was Panter and Lion.
Now I fly Typhoon and first Mordus mission i get gives me Raid Leader at the end. Ether it is interesting coincedence or spawn depends on what class of the ship you are in.
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.10.05 19:17:00 -
[509]
One WCS ...target ITTY or Ass. Frig that is charging to WEB ya....Kill him...then start on the rest....
Mission is not super hard...just takes bit of a diffrent style of play...Charging in at close range...will get ya beat up...pretty quick...
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.10.05 19:17:00 -
[510]
One WCS ...target ITTY or Ass. Frig that is charging to WEB ya....Kill him...then start on the rest....
Mission is not super hard...just takes bit of a diffrent style of play...Charging in at close range...will get ya beat up...pretty quick...
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bamason
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Posted - 2004.10.06 06:54:00 -
[511]
think people. kill the wingman or bounty hunter first ,(its the 1 thats scrambling u)then u can jump if u need to.got a corp mate that does this in a maller w/no trouble.
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bamason
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Posted - 2004.10.06 06:54:00 -
[512]
think people. kill the wingman or bounty hunter first ,(its the 1 thats scrambling u)then u can jump if u need to.got a corp mate that does this in a maller w/no trouble.
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2004.10.06 14:27:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Siroc Interesting detail is that I did this mission at least 5 times in my Rupture and never got Raid Leader spawn. Last wave always was Panter and Lion.
Now I fly Typhoon and first Mordus mission i get gives me Raid Leader at the end. Ether it is interesting coincedence or spawn depends on what class of the ship you are in.
I think it's just a coincedence. I'm flying all my missions in a MOA (i don't have the isk to insure my Raven yet), and also had the Raid leader spawn. He is a lot easier to kill then his bounty would say btw. 
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2004.10.06 14:27:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Siroc Interesting detail is that I did this mission at least 5 times in my Rupture and never got Raid Leader spawn. Last wave always was Panter and Lion.
Now I fly Typhoon and first Mordus mission i get gives me Raid Leader at the end. Ether it is interesting coincedence or spawn depends on what class of the ship you are in.
I think it's just a coincedence. I'm flying all my missions in a MOA (i don't have the isk to insure my Raven yet), and also had the Raid leader spawn. He is a lot easier to kill then his bounty would say btw. 
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.10.06 18:12:00 -
[515]
yeah, i agree, he is a wimp, lol, wimp with big vallet. to tell the truth, i am still waiting for challenge in kill mission running. Level 3 is all done and too easy. Come on devs!!!! BRING IT ON!!!
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Siroc
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Posted - 2004.10.06 18:12:00 -
[516]
yeah, i agree, he is a wimp, lol, wimp with big vallet. to tell the truth, i am still waiting for challenge in kill mission running. Level 3 is all done and too easy. Come on devs!!!! BRING IT ON!!!
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Bhal'rog
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Posted - 2004.10.06 20:08:00 -
[517]
I have just started running some missions after a long hiatus. I got the Mordus mission a couple of times. The first few I was in my Rupture. The last wave always had the Leopard and the Lion.
After reading this thread I switched to my Typhoon to see what would happen. Several missions later I get Mordus again. Viola, I get the Raid Leader.
Once, doesn't make a pattern but it is interesting. |

Bhal'rog
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Posted - 2004.10.06 20:08:00 -
[518]
I have just started running some missions after a long hiatus. I got the Mordus mission a couple of times. The first few I was in my Rupture. The last wave always had the Leopard and the Lion.
After reading this thread I switched to my Typhoon to see what would happen. Several missions later I get Mordus again. Viola, I get the Raid Leader.
Once, doesn't make a pattern but it is interesting. |

JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.10.06 21:52:00 -
[519]
Thought I'd test the Shiva interface in action and ask one my agents for a mission. Here's the briefing he had for me...
Now since I haven't discovered how to configure the Shiva scanner (or a suitable substitute), I was left without reliable intelligence on the bounty hunters' speed and approach - so I warped out only to find that the entire mob was invisible upon my return. Boy is this going to be fun to test...
Incidental observations may follow.
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |

JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.10.06 21:52:00 -
[520]
Thought I'd test the Shiva interface in action and ask one my agents for a mission. Here's the briefing he had for me...
Now since I haven't discovered how to configure the Shiva scanner (or a suitable substitute), I was left without reliable intelligence on the bounty hunters' speed and approach - so I warped out only to find that the entire mob was invisible upon my return. Boy is this going to be fun to test...
Incidental observations may follow.
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2004.10.06 21:54:00 -
[521]
I haven't had the pleasure of come up against this mission yet but if in the missions briefing it tells you that you must kill 17 rats and there is a potential for more to spawn then that would tell me either to contact my corp mates and ask for back-up, refit my ship to be able to withstand a punishing or not take the mission at all. I'm not saying what happened to the people that did loose their BS's to bad so sad because I have a lost a BS and it aint fun, even after insurance it still cost me 50 mill (refit and to purchase new insurance). In a situation like that I sometimes take a figate to check things out and see what i am up against. at least I can MWD faster than any rat can so I can stick around for awhile to see types of ships and potential loadouts. but that is a perfect situation. I feel for the peeps that lost ships but again if I read 17 bogies and potentially more spawning I would really think of what I wanted to do.
**FIX FTW** |

Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2004.10.06 21:54:00 -
[522]
I haven't had the pleasure of come up against this mission yet but if in the missions briefing it tells you that you must kill 17 rats and there is a potential for more to spawn then that would tell me either to contact my corp mates and ask for back-up, refit my ship to be able to withstand a punishing or not take the mission at all. I'm not saying what happened to the people that did loose their BS's to bad so sad because I have a lost a BS and it aint fun, even after insurance it still cost me 50 mill (refit and to purchase new insurance). In a situation like that I sometimes take a figate to check things out and see what i am up against. at least I can MWD faster than any rat can so I can stick around for awhile to see types of ships and potential loadouts. but that is a perfect situation. I feel for the peeps that lost ships but again if I read 17 bogies and potentially more spawning I would really think of what I wanted to do.
**FIX FTW** |

iRock
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:34:00 -
[523]
Edited by: iRock on 15/10/2004 23:04:29 I'm actually doing this mission right now in my rifter. (not kidding) ... am halfway the second wave killing the last Murdos Puma, which are quite heavy monsters.
And yeah, although I can handle the mission (it just takes ages to complete) I think its abit too hard.
Just hope that one of those fat beasts drop some good loot
[EDIT] 20 mins later: ...
Last wave ... 1x Mordus Leopard (110k?) & 1x Mordus Raid Leader (650k)
Well ... this mission is impossible in a rifter. They just regen way too fast.
Need to get my cruiser ... which is a pathetic stabber and 7 jumps away :( [/EDIT]
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iRock
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:34:00 -
[524]
Edited by: iRock on 15/10/2004 23:04:29 I'm actually doing this mission right now in my rifter. (not kidding) ... am halfway the second wave killing the last Murdos Puma, which are quite heavy monsters.
And yeah, although I can handle the mission (it just takes ages to complete) I think its abit too hard.
Just hope that one of those fat beasts drop some good loot
[EDIT] 20 mins later: ...
Last wave ... 1x Mordus Leopard (110k?) & 1x Mordus Raid Leader (650k)
Well ... this mission is impossible in a rifter. They just regen way too fast.
Need to get my cruiser ... which is a pathetic stabber and 7 jumps away :( [/EDIT]
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:48:00 -
[525]
errrrmm
are u whusses?
i do these missions all the time on TQ with a domi
sometimes i even turn my guns on to kill the single scrambler/webber
just fit for therm and kinetic hardening (i go armour tank)
maybe fit some guns/cap drainers
13 hvy drone wtfpwns these mordus
on shiva i've dont the l4 version
now that WAS tricky
i had to use my ph00n for that .. has to warp out 3 times (!)
the mordus scorps and ravens are quite hard but still killable
the mordus mammoth took 25 mins of 1400mm and cruise lubbin b4 it died.. it shield boosts BIG time
cant see why u find the l3 hard
cAKe
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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bUBbLeS
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Posted - 2004.10.15 22:48:00 -
[526]
errrrmm
are u whusses?
i do these missions all the time on TQ with a domi
sometimes i even turn my guns on to kill the single scrambler/webber
just fit for therm and kinetic hardening (i go armour tank)
maybe fit some guns/cap drainers
13 hvy drone wtfpwns these mordus
on shiva i've dont the l4 version
now that WAS tricky
i had to use my ph00n for that .. has to warp out 3 times (!)
the mordus scorps and ravens are quite hard but still killable
the mordus mammoth took 25 mins of 1400mm and cruise lubbin b4 it died.. it shield boosts BIG time
cant see why u find the l3 hard
cAKe
Julius ceaser : "operor vos volo MCCCXXXVII laganum bUBbLeS?"
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.10.16 06:19:00 -
[527]
My friend Jaketh drank something, then took his Crusader out against a Mordus mission. At one time he pleaded for me to get a battleship or cruiser out to rescue him, but in the end, he managed to survive and beat it with the skin of his teeth.
First and second time I played this mission, I lost six and eight scout and medium drones---small drones generally deal with frigates better with their tracking.
Generally I come in at 60km, and start bombarding the far targets. One Mordus Bounty Hunter will always try to MWD in and scramble you. Sic your drones on him. I use only large guns on this, and I keep the large guns on the farther targets where it is easier to hit them. The drones would do the work against any close range inty scrambling you, while your big guns nail down the cruisers.
The next wave comes, and the drones go after them immediately like a pack of dogs.
Best large guns are megapulse and/or dual heavy pulse. However, I did manage to kill some Mordus, including elite frigs using a tach, megabeam and dual heavy beam at farther ranges.
Once you get the routine done pat, you won't even lose a single hobglobin to this mission.
_______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.10.16 06:19:00 -
[528]
My friend Jaketh drank something, then took his Crusader out against a Mordus mission. At one time he pleaded for me to get a battleship or cruiser out to rescue him, but in the end, he managed to survive and beat it with the skin of his teeth.
First and second time I played this mission, I lost six and eight scout and medium drones---small drones generally deal with frigates better with their tracking.
Generally I come in at 60km, and start bombarding the far targets. One Mordus Bounty Hunter will always try to MWD in and scramble you. Sic your drones on him. I use only large guns on this, and I keep the large guns on the farther targets where it is easier to hit them. The drones would do the work against any close range inty scrambling you, while your big guns nail down the cruisers.
The next wave comes, and the drones go after them immediately like a pack of dogs.
Best large guns are megapulse and/or dual heavy pulse. However, I did manage to kill some Mordus, including elite frigs using a tach, megabeam and dual heavy beam at farther ranges.
Once you get the routine done pat, you won't even lose a single hobglobin to this mission.
_______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Ser Nomis
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Posted - 2004.10.16 09:31:00 -
[529]
Its not so hard, I have done it a few times, admitidly I have a Raven, I found if I used my MWD and ran as fast as I could to 80km range, I could take out the Bounty Hunter Scout quick enough, Then the rest was a breeze. One time I got this mission, I took out a named Mordus leader and he gave me an implant as loot.
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Ser Nomis
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Posted - 2004.10.16 09:31:00 -
[530]
Its not so hard, I have done it a few times, admitidly I have a Raven, I found if I used my MWD and ran as fast as I could to 80km range, I could take out the Bounty Hunter Scout quick enough, Then the rest was a breeze. One time I got this mission, I took out a named Mordus leader and he gave me an implant as loot.
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Connor McLeod
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Posted - 2004.10.17 08:27:00 -
[531]
Originally by: Ser Nomis Its not so hard, I have done it a few times, admitidly I have a Raven (...)
I can only second this. Am doing these in a raven too atm but also did these in a caracal. I think it¦s a bit challenging and thats the pro, not to get the same boring linear missions every time but get some "surprise waves" as extra on top ;-)
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Connor McLeod
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Posted - 2004.10.17 08:27:00 -
[532]
Originally by: Ser Nomis Its not so hard, I have done it a few times, admitidly I have a Raven (...)
I can only second this. Am doing these in a raven too atm but also did these in a caracal. I think it¦s a bit challenging and thats the pro, not to get the same boring linear missions every time but get some "surprise waves" as extra on top ;-)
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Battle Axe
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Posted - 2004.10.17 11:35:00 -
[533]
I use a Caracal, like the person above also said they did, and its easy if you keep MWDing to 60km, they just can't hit you.
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Battle Axe
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Posted - 2004.10.17 11:35:00 -
[534]
I use a Caracal, like the person above also said they did, and its easy if you keep MWDing to 60km, they just can't hit you.
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Kayinan Malrean
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Posted - 2004.10.17 13:47:00 -
[535]
Range is for the weak. :) I'm using an armor tanking Maller. I warp into the lvl 3 Mordus crowd at 15km, stop the engines and start shooting until they're dead (which doesn't take too long).
By no means Mordus is too hard a mission. Instead, I'd rather see more lvl3 missions like it. Now every lvl3 misisons is just a breeze in a cruiser.
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Kayinan Malrean
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Posted - 2004.10.17 13:47:00 -
[536]
Range is for the weak. :) I'm using an armor tanking Maller. I warp into the lvl 3 Mordus crowd at 15km, stop the engines and start shooting until they're dead (which doesn't take too long).
By no means Mordus is too hard a mission. Instead, I'd rather see more lvl3 missions like it. Now every lvl3 misisons is just a breeze in a cruiser.
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Jiix
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Posted - 2004.10.17 17:16:00 -
[537]
Edited by: Jiix on 17/10/2004 17:19:40 Range is for the artistic =) The mission is quite elegant when you "manage" it rather than just jumping in the middle like a bull in a china shop =)
But I totally agree, we really need more missions like it. After you've done this a few times no other level 3 mission is interesting in a cruiser anymore.
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Jiix
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Posted - 2004.10.17 17:16:00 -
[538]
Edited by: Jiix on 17/10/2004 17:19:40 Range is for the artistic =) The mission is quite elegant when you "manage" it rather than just jumping in the middle like a bull in a china shop =)
But I totally agree, we really need more missions like it. After you've done this a few times no other level 3 mission is interesting in a cruiser anymore.
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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2004.10.18 01:23:00 -
[539]
Edited by: Tesk Malloc on 18/10/2004 01:27:11 I did this mission with a thorax the other day. No drones, just blasters and armour tanking. Mind you, it took me about 40 mins with warping out to repair etc.
I've now upgraded my Missionrax with tech II gear (it did have just basic or low level named mods the first time round), so it should take me a little less time next time it rears its ugly head.
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and Official Lightbulb Screwer
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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2004.10.18 01:23:00 -
[540]
Edited by: Tesk Malloc on 18/10/2004 01:27:11 I did this mission with a thorax the other day. No drones, just blasters and armour tanking. Mind you, it took me about 40 mins with warping out to repair etc.
I've now upgraded my Missionrax with tech II gear (it did have just basic or low level named mods the first time round), so it should take me a little less time next time it rears its ugly head.
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and Official Lightbulb Screwer
"You can't love life too much. Everybody dies." |
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.10.18 03:19:00 -
[541]
I like a version of this mission but with Serpentis rats---the Serpentis are masters of high speed, close range fighting with blasters, and they're better at it than the Mordu. The mission should be made available to all factions and not just Gallente.
Actually it would be nice to have variations of this mission each with Angels, Sansha, Bloods, and Guristas as well.
_______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.10.18 03:19:00 -
[542]
I like a version of this mission but with Serpentis rats---the Serpentis are masters of high speed, close range fighting with blasters, and they're better at it than the Mordu. The mission should be made available to all factions and not just Gallente.
Actually it would be nice to have variations of this mission each with Angels, Sansha, Bloods, and Guristas as well.
_______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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Verve
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Posted - 2004.10.18 12:29:00 -
[543]
You can do it in a Rifter if you've got good gun skills and missile skills, i use tech II 150's atm, with a gyro 2 and 2 arbalests. Also i change my ammo depending on mission, this one i use bloodclaws and emp S. I'm a wuss tho, i pull the bounty hunter away from the pack and kill him single before i continue with everything else =(
It's prolly cos i suck, but i find the mercenary mission with the wingman harder, largely cos my 'pull the webbing pain away from his friends' tactic don't seem to work. Guessing he don't use a mwd like the mordus guy or he's just smarter. 
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Verve
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Posted - 2004.10.18 12:29:00 -
[544]
You can do it in a Rifter if you've got good gun skills and missile skills, i use tech II 150's atm, with a gyro 2 and 2 arbalests. Also i change my ammo depending on mission, this one i use bloodclaws and emp S. I'm a wuss tho, i pull the bounty hunter away from the pack and kill him single before i continue with everything else =(
It's prolly cos i suck, but i find the mercenary mission with the wingman harder, largely cos my 'pull the webbing pain away from his friends' tactic don't seem to work. Guessing he don't use a mwd like the mordus guy or he's just smarter. 
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.10.18 13:17:00 -
[545]
Got my new Moa, first lvl 3 mission, Mordus.
I thought, ok, lets try it. After my 3rd warp in I had a little lag and got killed. I admit I had no training using a cruiser before and my gunneryskills are laughable so I don't complain (also only light missiles at that point). Was a nice experience, even if a little expensive.
Now I know I have to decline this mission, but I still do some of the other lvl 3 missions in my merlin because it is faster than the Moa.
Maybe I will get me a Caracal after I'm finally able to use MWDs and try it that way.
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.10.18 13:17:00 -
[546]
Got my new Moa, first lvl 3 mission, Mordus.
I thought, ok, lets try it. After my 3rd warp in I had a little lag and got killed. I admit I had no training using a cruiser before and my gunneryskills are laughable so I don't complain (also only light missiles at that point). Was a nice experience, even if a little expensive.
Now I know I have to decline this mission, but I still do some of the other lvl 3 missions in my merlin because it is faster than the Moa.
Maybe I will get me a Caracal after I'm finally able to use MWDs and try it that way.
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Ivan Siff
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Posted - 2004.10.19 02:26:00 -
[547]
Just got this mission for the first time tonight, after reading various things about it I was a bit excited about the prospect of "something different" to say the least.
I flew it in my shield tanked Scorp/short range setup (alas the only BS I have) and had no problems, although the 110K + guys did take forever to die.
Very proud of myself I warped back to the station to report my success and pickup my Loot Mobile, completely forgetting to bookmark where the battle took place.
soo... what cool loot did I miss? :p :)
[ 2004.06.30 22:51:01 ] Your Mega Pulse Laser I places an excellent hit on Mordus Bounty Hunter, inflicting 11.9 damage. |

Ivan Siff
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Posted - 2004.10.19 02:26:00 -
[548]
Just got this mission for the first time tonight, after reading various things about it I was a bit excited about the prospect of "something different" to say the least.
I flew it in my shield tanked Scorp/short range setup (alas the only BS I have) and had no problems, although the 110K + guys did take forever to die.
Very proud of myself I warped back to the station to report my success and pickup my Loot Mobile, completely forgetting to bookmark where the battle took place.
soo... what cool loot did I miss? :p :)
[ 2004.06.30 22:51:01 ] Your Mega Pulse Laser I places an excellent hit on Mordus Bounty Hunter, inflicting 11.9 damage. |

Promufacus
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Posted - 2004.10.19 04:29:00 -
[549]
LOL. lost ur battleships. I helped a corpmate of mine and he was in a BB and me a taranis and we sat there through the whole spawn. you didnt have right setup lol CEO Medusa Empire
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Promufacus
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Posted - 2004.10.19 04:29:00 -
[550]
LOL. lost ur battleships. I helped a corpmate of mine and he was in a BB and me a taranis and we sat there through the whole spawn. you didnt have right setup lol CEO Medusa Empire
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2004.10.19 07:32:00 -
[551]
Originally by: Armi Tage Got my new Moa, first lvl 3 mission, Mordus.
I thought, ok, lets try it. After my 3rd warp in I had a little lag and got killed. I admit I had no training using a cruiser before and my gunneryskills are laughable so I don't complain (also only light missiles at that point). Was a nice experience, even if a little expensive.
Now I know I have to decline this mission, but I still do some of the other lvl 3 missions in my merlin because it is faster than the Moa.
Maybe I will get me a Caracal after I'm finally able to use MWDs and try it that way.
It can be easily completed with a MOA. You do need heavy missiles though. My setup is 4 250mm railguns and 2 heavy launchers. A mwd to keep you at 30km+ and use iridium ammo (or other midrange ammo) In the first wave kill the bounty hunter first (he can warp jam), and make sure you are at least 25-30km away of the last mob of each wave before you kill him (next spawn will be at the place he's killed, and you don't want a spawn on top of you )
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2004.10.19 07:32:00 -
[552]
Originally by: Armi Tage Got my new Moa, first lvl 3 mission, Mordus.
I thought, ok, lets try it. After my 3rd warp in I had a little lag and got killed. I admit I had no training using a cruiser before and my gunneryskills are laughable so I don't complain (also only light missiles at that point). Was a nice experience, even if a little expensive.
Now I know I have to decline this mission, but I still do some of the other lvl 3 missions in my merlin because it is faster than the Moa.
Maybe I will get me a Caracal after I'm finally able to use MWDs and try it that way.
It can be easily completed with a MOA. You do need heavy missiles though. My setup is 4 250mm railguns and 2 heavy launchers. A mwd to keep you at 30km+ and use iridium ammo (or other midrange ammo) In the first wave kill the bounty hunter first (he can warp jam), and make sure you are at least 25-30km away of the last mob of each wave before you kill him (next spawn will be at the place he's killed, and you don't want a spawn on top of you )
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:19:00 -
[553]
yes, maybe i will accept it the next time, my missile and gunnery-skills now total more than 100K Points.
But i still have to get me the MWD skill, maybe in the end of novemeber. Without that i will have to warp out repeatedly, as with the Blackade mission where i have to warp out because the last wave is on top of me.
I'm pretty sure it is doable in a Moa, but not with no skills regarding fighting.
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Armi Tage
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:19:00 -
[554]
yes, maybe i will accept it the next time, my missile and gunnery-skills now total more than 100K Points.
But i still have to get me the MWD skill, maybe in the end of novemeber. Without that i will have to warp out repeatedly, as with the Blackade mission where i have to warp out because the last wave is on top of me.
I'm pretty sure it is doable in a Moa, but not with no skills regarding fighting.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:38:00 -
[555]
I just got this mission and the enemy all went straight for my drones (i fly a dominix, can operate 13 drones) this was good and bad... I managed to withstand their onslaught but lost about 20 drones in toatal (a mix of med and heavy) before i decided to get out.
Unfortuantly this mission was made worse for me because it spawned 100km from a roid field which was full of 0.4sec blood raiders... who naturally wanted to join in (on the mordu's side of course).
Luckily I managed to warp out and am now going to restock my drones to finish them off.... but heck that was harder than I am used to.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |

Haratu
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:38:00 -
[556]
I just got this mission and the enemy all went straight for my drones (i fly a dominix, can operate 13 drones) this was good and bad... I managed to withstand their onslaught but lost about 20 drones in toatal (a mix of med and heavy) before i decided to get out.
Unfortuantly this mission was made worse for me because it spawned 100km from a roid field which was full of 0.4sec blood raiders... who naturally wanted to join in (on the mordu's side of course).
Luckily I managed to warp out and am now going to restock my drones to finish them off.... but heck that was harder than I am used to.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |

iRock
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:44:00 -
[557]
My agent wants me dead, he keeps sending me out to kill those Mordus folks. The first time I did this mission (a few posts back) I got a big nasty Mordus Monster on the end (bounty around 600k) but I havent seen that one anymore.
Without the big guy on the end I can handle it in a Rifter (yep, that's a frigate). The only real hard part is the bounty hunter not only because he can scramble you but also because of his velocity (~1400m/s) which means that most missiles don't hit him. I've got two solutions for it:
1. Scramble him This is the simple approach. Just do a quick orbit at 10km, scramble and orbit > 15km. Problem is ofcourse he tries to scramble you to and 5 seconds at less then 1000m/s in a Rifter will turn you into stardust.
2. Make him dizzy Orbit him at 15km, fire off some sabretooth and wait until they are close to the bounty hunter. Do a quick orbit at 10km and orbit out at ~20km before he can webify you. This will make him drop speed for 3 secs which is enough to make your missiles hit their target.
Oh, and don't try the above without an 10mn AB in your frigate.
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iRock
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Posted - 2004.10.19 10:44:00 -
[558]
My agent wants me dead, he keeps sending me out to kill those Mordus folks. The first time I did this mission (a few posts back) I got a big nasty Mordus Monster on the end (bounty around 600k) but I havent seen that one anymore.
Without the big guy on the end I can handle it in a Rifter (yep, that's a frigate). The only real hard part is the bounty hunter not only because he can scramble you but also because of his velocity (~1400m/s) which means that most missiles don't hit him. I've got two solutions for it:
1. Scramble him This is the simple approach. Just do a quick orbit at 10km, scramble and orbit > 15km. Problem is ofcourse he tries to scramble you to and 5 seconds at less then 1000m/s in a Rifter will turn you into stardust.
2. Make him dizzy Orbit him at 15km, fire off some sabretooth and wait until they are close to the bounty hunter. Do a quick orbit at 10km and orbit out at ~20km before he can webify you. This will make him drop speed for 3 secs which is enough to make your missiles hit their target.
Oh, and don't try the above without an 10mn AB in your frigate.
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Jiix
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Posted - 2004.10.19 19:09:00 -
[559]
He isnĘt quite that fast. When I hit the MWD I go 1332 and thatĘs enough to leave him behind pretty quickly.
The easiest way to handle him is to let him come to you, which he quickly will, and which conveniently puts distance between you and rest of the pack to give you ample time to kill him. Just warp in at 60k. ItĘs like fishing ... dangle the bait (you) and when he bites kite him around while you kill him. You just cannot pull him too far out, or he will turn back.
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Jiix
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Posted - 2004.10.19 19:09:00 -
[560]
He isnĘt quite that fast. When I hit the MWD I go 1332 and thatĘs enough to leave him behind pretty quickly.
The easiest way to handle him is to let him come to you, which he quickly will, and which conveniently puts distance between you and rest of the pack to give you ample time to kill him. Just warp in at 60k. ItĘs like fishing ... dangle the bait (you) and when he bites kite him around while you kill him. You just cannot pull him too far out, or he will turn back.
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Verizana
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Posted - 2004.10.28 21:55:00 -
[561]
Ok... What were u thinkin having 250mm's on a Dom and where the hell were ur drones! I used to do missions on my dom just fittin 5-6 Heavy Pulse lasers with multy's and having a armor tank( u should know Mordus and Guristas do Kinetic and Thermal damage) and i used all this and my drones and did those spawn missions easily just warpin in at 15km... So this is just ur skills or ur head :/ not ur ship at least. ----------
"I never give them hell, I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." -Harry Truman
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Verizana
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Posted - 2004.10.28 21:55:00 -
[562]
Ok... What were u thinkin having 250mm's on a Dom and where the hell were ur drones! I used to do missions on my dom just fittin 5-6 Heavy Pulse lasers with multy's and having a armor tank( u should know Mordus and Guristas do Kinetic and Thermal damage) and i used all this and my drones and did those spawn missions easily just warpin in at 15km... So this is just ur skills or ur head :/ not ur ship at least. ----------
"I never give them hell, I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." -Harry Truman
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DeathsLight
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Posted - 2004.11.18 23:02:00 -
[563]
Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:11:50 Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:11:08 Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:09:50 Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:05:29 One thing to note if you're running the mission (constantly!) in a small ship with limited long range capabilities: It is very easy to lead the interceptors away from the main furball. I usually warp in and immediately start an orbit at 20K from the nearest inty, lock it and take a shot at it to get him and any other inty's to come after me. Then, switch to keep at range and lead it away. The Cheetahs may try to keep up, but it only takes a minute or two to get the intys over 100K from the pack so they can be dealt with.
If you're in a small fast ship and one of the last rats is the Raid Leader, attack him first! He's one of the few big rats I've had that can land a whole salvo of gunfire on me from 10K or so when I was at full speed. Trust me, it hurts like hell!
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DeathsLight
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Posted - 2004.11.18 23:02:00 -
[564]
Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:11:50 Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:11:08 Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:09:50 Edited by: DeathsLight on 18/11/2004 23:05:29 One thing to note if you're running the mission (constantly!) in a small ship with limited long range capabilities: It is very easy to lead the interceptors away from the main furball. I usually warp in and immediately start an orbit at 20K from the nearest inty, lock it and take a shot at it to get him and any other inty's to come after me. Then, switch to keep at range and lead it away. The Cheetahs may try to keep up, but it only takes a minute or two to get the intys over 100K from the pack so they can be dealt with.
If you're in a small fast ship and one of the last rats is the Raid Leader, attack him first! He's one of the few big rats I've had that can land a whole salvo of gunfire on me from 10K or so when I was at full speed. Trust me, it hurts like hell!
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Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:48:00 -
[565]
Edited by: Elithiomel on 19/11/2004 11:51:07 Been doing the level 3 Mordu's in a tanked Ishtar recently. That works a treat. With energised armour plating i only need a small armour repair II to tank the damage.
The biggest problem is the Katanas in the first wave chewing through my drones. But hey, with 4000 drone bay i can just throw out a few more :) --------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway. |

Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:48:00 -
[566]
Edited by: Elithiomel on 19/11/2004 11:51:07 Been doing the level 3 Mordu's in a tanked Ishtar recently. That works a treat. With energised armour plating i only need a small armour repair II to tank the damage.
The biggest problem is the Katanas in the first wave chewing through my drones. But hey, with 4000 drone bay i can just throw out a few more :) --------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway. |

King Dave
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:08:00 -
[567]
Originally by: Chris Redfield BRO thats just what i did.. i was in my mega. i was equiped with 4 425mm 2 cruise L and 2 250mm and shield hardners and xlarge shield booster, and 10 ogres.. i began attackin at a range of 60 km... it started good.. then suddently they all used MWD on me and befor i could think i was webbed and jamed,, i couldent do ****.. and on top of that aditional 4 cruisers spawned at 10 km ..2 caracals and 2 moa.. i had no chance.. i was facin 7 frigs and 6 cruisers.. i took out 4 frig and 3 cruisers.. i had no chance at all..... u tell me did CCP do somethin wrong.. HELL YEA... well there is ur answer !
Lol ure in a shield tanked megaT bahahahahahahahaha......... Thats possibly the stupidest thing i have eva heard!!! 3 large armor reps would hav handled that easy peasy.... If u had any sense u would have read the mission Description... And as u did warp in at 60km, and saw them coming towards u at 1km+/s I would have started warping out or turned my hardners and reps on and put up the best fight i could give...
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King Dave
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:08:00 -
[568]
Originally by: Chris Redfield BRO thats just what i did.. i was in my mega. i was equiped with 4 425mm 2 cruise L and 2 250mm and shield hardners and xlarge shield booster, and 10 ogres.. i began attackin at a range of 60 km... it started good.. then suddently they all used MWD on me and befor i could think i was webbed and jamed,, i couldent do ****.. and on top of that aditional 4 cruisers spawned at 10 km ..2 caracals and 2 moa.. i had no chance.. i was facin 7 frigs and 6 cruisers.. i took out 4 frig and 3 cruisers.. i had no chance at all..... u tell me did CCP do somethin wrong.. HELL YEA... well there is ur answer !
Lol ure in a shield tanked megaT bahahahahahahahaha......... Thats possibly the stupidest thing i have eva heard!!! 3 large armor reps would hav handled that easy peasy.... If u had any sense u would have read the mission Description... And as u did warp in at 60km, and saw them coming towards u at 1km+/s I would have started warping out or turned my hardners and reps on and put up the best fight i could give...
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Mishi Bangbang
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Posted - 2004.11.19 19:22:00 -
[569]
Originally by: King Dave ...3 large armor reps would...

bang
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Mishi Bangbang
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Posted - 2004.11.19 19:22:00 -
[570]
Originally by: King Dave ...3 large armor reps would...

bang
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Xonax Jyria
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Posted - 2004.11.20 01:56:00 -
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Interesting topic, the more interesting part is loosing a well tanked megathron (with hardners and large repairers)...
There is something seriously wrong here...I am a megathron user as well, and using medium neutrons for level 3 missions, no hardners, just only one large repairer, 2 damage mods, X5 Webber, 100 MN MWD,and lots of CPRs AND CRs to use mwd to loot cans after mission (which is the worst part of using slow ass BSs)
I completed looooots of mordus missions (3-4 times with raid leader spawn)...My armor never gone below %50, i always warped to 15km and released my 8 Wasps for frigates while i smash the sh*t out of cruiser, it doesnt take more than 3 min to clean the main force, the other spawns are like a joke as well...So how the hell can you lose a tanked mega (with hardners and t2 repairers)...That s seriously wrong, i can even******the mordus with my thorax without too much effort...
Dead Bounty Hunter = End of mordus mission...I think you have some serious problems with using modules or setting up your ship (or micromanagment)...Even without hardners you can tank forever with 1 large + 1 medium repairer...
It s even not challenging with a thorax...Just kill the enemy in correct order, always bounty hunter first, web him and let your drones destroy him...There is no challenge in this mission, if you lose your mega on a mordus mission i suggest you to not PVP forever...I dont want to flame anyone, but that s the most rudicilious thing i ve ever heard in eve...(i mean loosing a tanked mega on a mordus mission)
As the worst part is trying to send petition for that mission, come on damnit, there are players like me who need some challenge on missions.
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Xonax Jyria
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Posted - 2004.11.20 01:56:00 -
[572]
Interesting topic, the more interesting part is loosing a well tanked megathron (with hardners and large repairers)...
There is something seriously wrong here...I am a megathron user as well, and using medium neutrons for level 3 missions, no hardners, just only one large repairer, 2 damage mods, X5 Webber, 100 MN MWD,and lots of CPRs AND CRs to use mwd to loot cans after mission (which is the worst part of using slow ass BSs)
I completed looooots of mordus missions (3-4 times with raid leader spawn)...My armor never gone below %50, i always warped to 15km and released my 8 Wasps for frigates while i smash the sh*t out of cruiser, it doesnt take more than 3 min to clean the main force, the other spawns are like a joke as well...So how the hell can you lose a tanked mega (with hardners and t2 repairers)...That s seriously wrong, i can even******the mordus with my thorax without too much effort...
Dead Bounty Hunter = End of mordus mission...I think you have some serious problems with using modules or setting up your ship (or micromanagment)...Even without hardners you can tank forever with 1 large + 1 medium repairer...
It s even not challenging with a thorax...Just kill the enemy in correct order, always bounty hunter first, web him and let your drones destroy him...There is no challenge in this mission, if you lose your mega on a mordus mission i suggest you to not PVP forever...I dont want to flame anyone, but that s the most rudicilious thing i ve ever heard in eve...(i mean loosing a tanked mega on a mordus mission)
As the worst part is trying to send petition for that mission, come on damnit, there are players like me who need some challenge on missions.
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Stuart Ward
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:53:00 -
[573]
I do this mission in a crow !!
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Stuart Ward
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Posted - 2004.11.21 08:53:00 -
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I do this mission in a crow !!
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kebab v2
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:47:00 -
[575]
i find it shocking that someone can loose a bs too a lvl 3 mission, do these ppl mine and do courier mission none stop till they could afford a bs? if you had worked the lvl 1 & 2 kill mission and done the mordus you would of know what too expect.
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kebab v2
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Posted - 2004.11.21 10:47:00 -
[576]
i find it shocking that someone can loose a bs too a lvl 3 mission, do these ppl mine and do courier mission none stop till they could afford a bs? if you had worked the lvl 1 & 2 kill mission and done the mordus you would of know what too expect.
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2004.11.22 06:16:00 -
[577]
Originally by: Xonax Jyria Interesting topic, the more interesting part is loosing a well tanked megathron (with hardners and large repairers)...
There is something seriously wrong here...I am a megathron user as well, and using medium neutrons for level 3 missions, no hardners, just only one large repairer, 2 damage mods, X5 Webber, 100 MN MWD,and lots of CPRs AND CRs to use mwd to loot cans after mission (which is the worst part of using slow ass BSs)
I completed looooots of mordus missions (3-4 times with raid leader spawn)...My armor never gone below %50, i always warped to 15km and released my 8 Wasps for frigates while i smash the sh*t out of cruiser, it doesnt take more than 3 min to clean the main force, the other spawns are like a joke as well...So how the hell can you lose a tanked mega (with hardners and t2 repairers)...That s seriously wrong, i can even******the mordus with my thorax without too much effort...
Dead Bounty Hunter = End of mordus mission...I think you have some serious problems with using modules or setting up your ship (or micromanagment)...Even without hardners you can tank forever with 1 large + 1 medium repairer...
It s even not challenging with a thorax...Just kill the enemy in correct order, always bounty hunter first, web him and let your drones destroy him...There is no challenge in this mission, if you lose your mega on a mordus mission i suggest you to not PVP forever...I dont want to flame anyone, but that s the most rudicilious thing i ve ever heard in eve...(i mean loosing a tanked mega on a mordus mission)
As the worst part is trying to send petition for that mission, come on damnit, there are players like me who need some challenge on missions.
As you, and the others who have posted on the last 3 pages about how laughably easy this mission is, should know, after the initial complaints, ccp dumbed down the mission to make it easier, and gave those nice warnings. There used to be more/tougher ships, and no warning about scrambling/webbing. So cut these guys a little slack, its easy to make a mistake when you don't know what's coming. --------------
Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Spy, wrecking for 411.2 damage. |

Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2004.11.22 06:16:00 -
[578]
Originally by: Xonax Jyria Interesting topic, the more interesting part is loosing a well tanked megathron (with hardners and large repairers)...
There is something seriously wrong here...I am a megathron user as well, and using medium neutrons for level 3 missions, no hardners, just only one large repairer, 2 damage mods, X5 Webber, 100 MN MWD,and lots of CPRs AND CRs to use mwd to loot cans after mission (which is the worst part of using slow ass BSs)
I completed looooots of mordus missions (3-4 times with raid leader spawn)...My armor never gone below %50, i always warped to 15km and released my 8 Wasps for frigates while i smash the sh*t out of cruiser, it doesnt take more than 3 min to clean the main force, the other spawns are like a joke as well...So how the hell can you lose a tanked mega (with hardners and t2 repairers)...That s seriously wrong, i can even******the mordus with my thorax without too much effort...
Dead Bounty Hunter = End of mordus mission...I think you have some serious problems with using modules or setting up your ship (or micromanagment)...Even without hardners you can tank forever with 1 large + 1 medium repairer...
It s even not challenging with a thorax...Just kill the enemy in correct order, always bounty hunter first, web him and let your drones destroy him...There is no challenge in this mission, if you lose your mega on a mordus mission i suggest you to not PVP forever...I dont want to flame anyone, but that s the most rudicilious thing i ve ever heard in eve...(i mean loosing a tanked mega on a mordus mission)
As the worst part is trying to send petition for that mission, come on damnit, there are players like me who need some challenge on missions.
As you, and the others who have posted on the last 3 pages about how laughably easy this mission is, should know, after the initial complaints, ccp dumbed down the mission to make it easier, and gave those nice warnings. There used to be more/tougher ships, and no warning about scrambling/webbing. So cut these guys a little slack, its easy to make a mistake when you don't know what's coming. --------------
Your 720mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Guristas Spy, wrecking for 411.2 damage. |

Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:44:00 -
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Carcal, Rupture, Thorax, and Crusader....all at Level 3....umm...Next...Looking foward to Level 4...Might actually make me work my skills to a BS....Vice more Ceptor Training Skills...
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Vigilant
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:44:00 -
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Carcal, Rupture, Thorax, and Crusader....all at Level 3....umm...Next...Looking foward to Level 4...Might actually make me work my skills to a BS....Vice more Ceptor Training Skills...
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:59:00 -
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i also agree that noone should ever loose a BS to the mordus mission, i would suggest you get out of your BS and get back into a cruiser until your skills are high enough.
for ease i do lvl3 missions in a typhoon, using only 4 heavy launchers and 8 wasp drones, a simple sheild tank is more than enough, thermal and kinetic hardner, an xlarge sheild booster and a lif burner then as many power diags in low slots as you can fit.
when i feel like a challenge i do the mission in a close range rupture, so if i can sit in the middle of the mordu`s mission and kill them in a cruiser i cant see how anyone should loose a bs to this mission, clearly you are not ready for lvl3 missions and should maybe drop down to lvl2 again
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Dexter Rast
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Posted - 2004.11.22 20:59:00 -
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i also agree that noone should ever loose a BS to the mordus mission, i would suggest you get out of your BS and get back into a cruiser until your skills are high enough.
for ease i do lvl3 missions in a typhoon, using only 4 heavy launchers and 8 wasp drones, a simple sheild tank is more than enough, thermal and kinetic hardner, an xlarge sheild booster and a lif burner then as many power diags in low slots as you can fit.
when i feel like a challenge i do the mission in a close range rupture, so if i can sit in the middle of the mordu`s mission and kill them in a cruiser i cant see how anyone should loose a bs to this mission, clearly you are not ready for lvl3 missions and should maybe drop down to lvl2 again
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2004.11.24 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast when i feel like a challenge i do the mission in a close range rupture, so if i can sit in the middle of the mordu`s mission and kill them in a cruiser i cant see how anyone should loose a bs to this mission, clearly you are not ready for lvl3 missions and should maybe drop down to lvl2 again
Please read a thread before responding, because 2 posts before yours it's explained why people did loose there BS's in the first mordus missions. Since the first mordus missions its been pretty nerfed, and nowadays it's just a pretty simple mission.
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2004.11.24 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dexter Rast when i feel like a challenge i do the mission in a close range rupture, so if i can sit in the middle of the mordu`s mission and kill them in a cruiser i cant see how anyone should loose a bs to this mission, clearly you are not ready for lvl3 missions and should maybe drop down to lvl2 again
Please read a thread before responding, because 2 posts before yours it's explained why people did loose there BS's in the first mordus missions. Since the first mordus missions its been pretty nerfed, and nowadays it's just a pretty simple mission.
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