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Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:08:00 -
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Gogela wrote:I have balls. They are on your chin.
Thought they were raisins and ate 'em.... natural mistake.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
396
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:12:00 -
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of course the fact that you're not getting ratter KMs is most certainly not because you're awful at PvP, you're the best pvper in the universe and nothing holds you back except that big bad local window eh |
Scien Inkunen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:27:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Get rid of local, all secs. It fixes almost everything. You would have to work to locate a target. You would have to work to avoid a target. There would be risk in high sec. There would be risk in all secs.
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The game is a boring campfest. Removing local removes that to a large degree.
.......... Get rid of it and let EVE become great.
Quit.
And careful with the balls - ship seats are not to comortable. Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1504
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Posted - 2012.05.20 23:31:00 -
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Technically you don't really "grow" balls as if to create balls that were not previously there though I have known women who have "honorary balls" awarded for heroic deeds in RL.
I can see where the OP is going, but don't think things will get there. |
Duvida
The Scope Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.05.21 01:48:00 -
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So, what's up with W-space? I thought that's where the 'no-local' pvp was? |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
427
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Posted - 2012.05.21 02:12:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Ziranda Hakuli wrote:this thread again worded what looks like the same old one that got squashed cause some idiot has no idea how to read the lore and why it is there and it is not in WHs?
Please biomass the toon now and save yourself the headaches down the road Lore lol. The game is a snoozefest. HTFU. What headache? Boredom doesn't bring headaches. It brings nausea. Also, alt-sh.it poasting reciting nerd memes is for terribaddies. Proof in this thread. The main ones retorting snarky have killboards that smell of kitty poo. I won't mention names but you know who you are. Peace to those with constructive criticism. Nerfing local will *not* work until they change static routes through null sec, which they have in WH space. With static routes it just becomes a matter of parking an alt on a gate (w or w/o bubbles...)
Little more work for no appreciable gain.
CCP have already said that some kind of change to local is in the works. Where it's at in the production que, I have no idea.
Not everyone with a great kill-board is a "good-poster", and not all those with a poor kill-board are "bad-posters" - it's the mind behind the keyboard that is important, and killboards don't measure that.
Just fyi...
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
401
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Posted - 2012.05.21 02:49:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:CCP have already said that some kind of change to local is in the works. Where it's at in the production que, I have no idea.
CCP has a reputation for hamfisting almost every change initially and leaving the fix on the backburner for several expansion cycles, so you can see why some of us have serious reservations about changing local eh |
Peter Raptor
Plutonian Army
159
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Posted - 2012.05.21 02:59:00 -
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Keep local for eva, save people's fingers from breaking cos they tapped dscan a quintillion times every time they play for 5 minutes. What a ludicrous game eve would become with out local.
And PLEASE dont suggest some great new dscanner to replace local, cos then you'll just get local back under a new name, defeats the purpose utterly Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
402
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Posted - 2012.05.21 03:02:00 -
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wormholers seem to believe that spamming the dscan button is the height of gameplay in eve online vOv eh |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
317
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Posted - 2012.05.21 03:04:00 -
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Every time someone says to grow some balls I think of one of three things:
"Lol, video games require ~balls~"
Or I picture myself with four or more *********.
Or I picture a vagina with some *********.
None of these are pleasant thoughts. Please stop. :) |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
403
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Posted - 2012.05.21 03:07:00 -
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but the best part is when hisec miners, who feel entitled to unearned safety, bleat about nullsec being ~too safe~ despite that "safety" being the product of secured space occupied by players who dare communicate the relatively vague positions of hostiles within their space
people working together in a multiplayer game is indeed disgusting eh |
Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment.
9
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Posted - 2012.05.21 03:24:00 -
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Local, in high sec has a single, useful feature that has nothing to do with risk and reward. It lets people see that other people are also playing the game and helps to decrease how 'alone' people feel. Even if people never interact, they know that there are 30 other people in that mission system as well.
Also, considering how much high sec local is ignored in general...
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.05.21 03:30:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:but the best part is when hisec miners, who feel entitled to unearned safety, bleat about nullsec being ~too safe~
This one bleats that if highsec were safe Id be out. I LIKE the danger in the game I also never tank my hulk
I also wouldnt qq to CCP if I ever lost one (which I havent)
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
404
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Posted - 2012.05.21 04:25:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:but the best part is when hisec miners, who feel entitled to unearned safety, bleat about nullsec being ~too safe~ This one bleats that if highsec were safe Id be out. I LIKE the danger in the game I also never tank my hulk I also wouldnt qq to CCP if I ever lost one (which I havent)
for every hisec miner that accepts the occasional loss, there are 100 more who think that they should be immune to all nonconsensual PvP eh |
Endeavour Starfleet
819
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Posted - 2012.05.21 04:31:00 -
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Oh look another fool who lost his chance at a big gank from his AFK cloaking and now wants local gone.
Local is needed in normal sec space. Go to wormholes if the big bad local is too much for you. Except you just want more free ganks. |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
53
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Posted - 2012.05.21 08:09:00 -
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Maybe you have not heard there OP that there is a reason for the local. partly due to what many have said so i keep this simple for you seeing you need it 1> Each system is connected to a stargate unless you are in a WormHole 2> Stargates connect you to the local communication system...ie local 3> Worhmholes have no stargate.
get the picture. removal of local will not happen
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Benny Ohu
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
122
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Posted - 2012.05.21 08:13:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:Maybe you have not heard there OP that there is a reason for the local. partly due to what many have said so i keep this simple for you seeing you need it 1> Each system is connected to a stargate unless you are in a WormHole 2> Stargates connect you to the local communication system...ie local 3> Worhmholes have no stargate.
get the picture. removal of local will not happen
There's a game connected to the lore, though
I know, right? |
Slow P Oke
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.21 08:13:00 -
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HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE MITTANI AT FANFEST? |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
961
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Posted - 2012.05.21 08:23:00 -
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I'm going to give Slow P Oke a rare badge of NPC corp poster approval |
R0me0 Charl1e
Aliastra Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.21 08:26:00 -
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Slow P Oke wrote:HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE MITTANI AT FANFEST? Yes, yes I did, The Mittani is a ******* wizard! I didn't believe it myself at first but the proof is there. |
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Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
135
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Posted - 2012.05.21 10:07:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:Maybe you have not heard there OP that there is a reason for the local. partly due to what many have said so i keep this simple for you seeing you need it 1> Each system is connected to a stargate unless you are in a WormHole 2> Stargates connect you to the local communication system...ie local 3> Worhmholes have no stargate.
get the picture. removal of local will not happen
You seem unsure. Find it necessary to project reaffirmation? I think the devs are running out of ideas for compelling gameplay features. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3878
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Posted - 2012.05.21 10:22:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote: It would solve cloaky camps people complain about. It would give a point to cloaks people complain about.
Uncloak aliegned, tap bomb, warp to safety. No time to get reinforcements on grid to help or even lock targets. Hurray for 100% Safe uncounterable attacks.
You've actually never done this, have you?
(Hint: a single bomb isn't much threat to anything) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Elena Melkan
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
17
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Posted - 2012.05.21 10:48:00 -
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I heard that if you eat lots of yogurt, your balls will grow. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
68
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Posted - 2012.05.21 11:16:00 -
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bottom line is this, lots will refuse to work for anything, i say local should go also, it does fix lots and make for much better game play, we all know the feeling in WH space (well some of us), CCP got it perfect in WH space in my opinion, it feels like there is always someone watching you, even when they are not. so you adjust your gameplay to it and it does make it more exciting. scouts must be used.
OP has a point, all who disagree with him refuse the idea of having to work for a kill or intel. to me that's just lazy, and in EVE, lazy is how at least 70% of the population are.
so imagine local was gone tomorrow.
we'd have to use scouts,, oh noes !
we'd have to create groups to gather intel in covert ops ship,, the thoughts of it !
we'd have to be alert to dangers everywhere and work as a team within corps,, oh the horror of it all !
yup, people are lazy and want most everything handed to them on a plate.
OP i support you.
i believe local will be removed one day, the sooner the better. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
507
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Posted - 2012.05.21 11:31:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Get rid of local, all secs. It fixes almost everything. You would have to work to locate a target. You would have to work to avoid a target. There would be risk in high sec. There would be risk in all secs.
Freighters could be caught during a war dec. Freighters could get through during a war dec.
You would still have Concord retaliation in high sec. You could still be camped, though if you break the camp it would be harder to hunt you down. Certainly no worse that what we have now but with compelling gameplay.
It would solve cloaky camps people complain about. It would give a point to cloaks of which people complain about.
It would make neutral alts almost irrelevant. Though not 100%. It would certainly make playing with one account a lot less of a disadvantage. Sure you might lose a few alt account subs, but you would gain many more subs by having more compelling gameplay. What good is a scout profession when they're revealed as soon as they enter system?
The changes the expansion are bringing aren't going to revitalize low sec or null sec and its certainly not going to promote or fuel war. Quite the opposite.
The devs and the playerbase talk a lot about EVE being hardcore, but as of yet i'm not really seeing the hardcore aspect to the game.
The game is a boring campfest. Removing local removes that to a large degree.
To my ultra Orthodox carebear players, uncle Caliphy isn't throwing you under the bus. The threats you worry about occuring with this change would actually be resolvable by a merc corporation. If you are decced and you hire a merc the merc cannot sneak up on the enemy with everything displayed for them. They may be able to make your tormentors life a little more difficult but in most cases can't force a fight under those conditions. With no local they could. If you are camped by a griefdec and you hire a reasonably sized merc to help you the griefer will never see them coming. It's win/win.
Even null entry points would be camped far less. Lets see the thirty man bubble camp consistently do it when a 150 man roaming gang warps in on them and they never see it coming.
Local is holding EVE back. Period. Get rid of it and let EVE become great.
I read this more than once and remain convinced that you tapped-in to my thoughts and drained them for your own use. In other words, you ganked my brain and looted it!!
Your post is full of win as far as I am concerned. Get rid of Local. Everywhere. Amen to that.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Alara IonStorm
2220
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Posted - 2012.05.21 12:37:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
You've actually never done this, have you?
(Hint: a single bomb isn't much threat to anything)
No I have been bombed though and it isn't a single bomb I am worried about, it is five. It isn't even bombs it is Alpha you can just Falcon Jam a single and Alpha them with Torps and be gone before anyone can rescue you. Any baiting defense is impractical because you can't bait 99% of PvE Spots indefinitely with a cloaked counter fleet that will probably only catch one guy. Unless you are one grid it is pretty much a 100% victory for the cloakers who have free reign to attack.
Without Local you can indefinitely hide a fleet camping belts and anoms. Completely undetectable fleets will kill solo nullsec PvE completely. Null Sec population will empty.
Their are better ways to remove local that won't kill null sec and all start with cloak mechanics. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
427
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Posted - 2012.05.21 13:19:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:wormholers seem to believe that spamming the dscan button is the height of gameplay in eve online vOv
Which is what you would get *right now* with removing local... D-scan is your friend in WH's, but good scouts are worth 100 button mashers.
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Xeln Quuzg
The Unknown Bar and Pub
3
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Posted - 2012.05.21 13:51:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:Local, in high sec has a single, useful feature that has nothing to do with risk and reward. It lets people see that other people are also playing the game and helps to decrease how 'alone' people feel. Even if people never interact, they know that there are 30 other people in that mission system as well.
Also, considering how much high sec local is ignored in general...
interacting with other players is the only reason i care about local. it may not be used much, but i have actually met people; made contacts; gotten/given tips, info, etc; and been thoroughly entertained by hilarious conversations in local.
this has nothing to do with risk/reward/intel/etc, but it just seems that eve is already an antisocial game and removing local will make it even more so. |
Jame Jarl Retief
Corps Diplomatique Terrestrienne
88
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Posted - 2012.05.21 14:15:00 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:Local, in high sec has a single, useful feature that has nothing to do with risk and reward. It lets people see that other people are also playing the game and helps to decrease how 'alone' people feel. Even if people never interact, they know that there are 30 other people in that mission system as well.
Also, considering how much high sec local is ignored in general...
This. This is pretty much the only reason I feel iffy about removing local. Having said that, a new player will be looking at two other tabs, namely newb corp and the help channel (which will remain for the first 30 days, with thousands of people in it). So I feel the impact of the loss of local would be minimal.
I think I actually support removal of local everywhere, even high sec. I mean, if you think about it, local is a pretty ridiculous thing to have. Like picture WoW, where every zone has a local that shows all players, including enemies. That would just be nuts. Instead of having eyes on the back of your head and constantly keeping a lookout for someone sneaking up on you, you just keep an eye on local and see if any enemy shows up? Even "lolcarebear" WoW didn't do that, but "hardcore" EVE does? Silly, just silly.
And local need not be totally removed. It can just be changed to work like W-space. Until you speak up, you don't show up. So high-sec players can still talk if they want to. Even though I hardly see it happen even in busy systems. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
82
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Posted - 2012.05.21 14:48:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote: It would solve cloaky camps people complain about. It would give a point to cloaks people complain about.
Uncloak aliegned, tap bomb, warp to safety. No time to get reinforcements on grid to help or even lock targets. Hurray for 100% Safe uncounterable attacks.
And one bomb kills everything.
And bombs dont take forever to reload/cycle.
And bombs don't weigh so much a frigate can only carry 1-2 in its hold.
Before you cry about a thing, try it, it is anot so easy as it sounds. I'm an American, English is my second language... |
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