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Elena Melkan
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.05.27 11:40:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: And your ideas to get more players into null and make it more fun are?
I think null is not that bad as it is right now. Removing local would make getting players to move there only more difficult, unless you added some other ways to gather reliable intel to make people feel more safe. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.05.27 11:40:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:And your ideas to get more players into null and make it more fun are?
they certainly don't involve making the game unplayable for anybody who isn't in a fleet eh |
Frying Doom
185
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:21:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Frying Doom wrote:And your ideas to get more players into null and make it more fun are?
they certainly don't involve making the game unplayable for anybody who isn't in a fleet So your constructive ideas to get more people into Null are? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Local Channel in Null must Die. Jump Drives need Nerfing. Null is meant to be dangerous and hard. Not safe and boring. |
Lord Zim
712
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:26:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:So your constructive ideas to get more people into Null are? By not making it worse, for one. |
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:28:00 -
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Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Frying Doom wrote: No more exciting and changeable not stagnant and boring.
Such a pity "your" changes would cause it to be stagnant and boring on a daily basis, then. It is now. It is for you maybe. I'm sorry you are bad at Eve Online and have no friends to help you out. The rest of us are shooting stuff, getting blown up, making news and getting paid. Sucks to be you I guess. Well, i prefer to getting blown, making out and getting laid. And it-¦s not being me that sucks... "You either need less science fiction or more medication."
"Or less medication and more ammo!" |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:39:00 -
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CCP just should add 0.0 regions on the verge of existing one that have no local, are connected via normal stargates and where cyno works. OF course it should be rich with resources.
That would be perfect test if no local works in normal space ( it works perfectly in w-space ) |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:40:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Frying Doom wrote:And your ideas to get more players into null and make it more fun are?
they certainly don't involve making the game unplayable for anybody who isn't in a fleet
All hail solo ratters ??? |
RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:41:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Frying Doom wrote:And your ideas to get more players into null and make it more fun are?
they certainly don't involve making the game unplayable for anybody who isn't in a fleet So your constructive ideas to get more people into Null are?
Nullsec requires changes to make it more populous. This is a change to nullsec. This change is therefore good, and will make nullsec more populous.
Without local, I'll probably still live in nullsec, but if you think I'd ever do an anomaly that any roaming cloaky ship can arrive in with absolutely no warning, you're wrong. I'd move money-making to an alt in a one-man highsec corp, and L4 mission instead. For the record, I count seeing scan probes on D-scan as giving me appropriate warning, although I'm loathe to even so much as hint that anything that would result in one mashing D-scan 720 times per hour would be a good idea to implement.
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JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:43:00 -
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RDevz wrote:
Without local, I'll probably still live in nullsec, but if you think I'd ever do an anomaly that any roaming cloaky ship can arrive in with absolutely no warning.
This is where you fail.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:46:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:That would be perfect test if no local works in normal space ( it works perfectly in w-space )
yeah because aside from no local wormholes are 100% identical to k-space eh |
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Lord Zim
712
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Posted - 2012.05.27 12:47:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:This is where you fail. I'm sure an NPC alt which hasn't even logged in to make an avatar has much relevant to say about how it is to live in nullsec. |
specializt
Angry Angels Constructions The Kadeshi
0
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:08:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:This is where you fail. I'm sure an NPC alt which hasn't even logged in to make an avatar has much relevant to say about how it is to live in nullsec.
Yes, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:09:00 -
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the only way to populate 0.0 is to change 0.0 sanctums or something similar. Prior the huge sanctum nerf, there were people everywhere in 0.0. Some idiots said that the sanctums should be nerfed and it wouldnt interfeer with numbers too much. I argued against it, that it would change numbers drastically.
Now look at us. Removing local is gonna do nothing for numbers in 0.0. More than 30% left 0.0 cos of that stupid nerf. And thats an under estimation. I belive the numbers are much higher. The only things thats gonna change it is to boost 0.0 isk bonus which always atracts players in the thousands. Keep nerfing 0.0 and less and less people are gonna want to be there. It simply too much effort and headache for the small and medium entities with almost no reward.
I know if local gets nerfed even less people are gonna be in 0.0 and most just go to highsec and run level 4s. Not to mention all those entities wouldnt have to pay rent. Removing local result will just make 0.0 a dump. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
179
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:20:00 -
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Pathetic From: ****** To: Caliph Muhammed
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you are one pathetic son a bi.tch. Sociopath piece of dogturd. Just biomass yourself, make the game a better place.
Cu.nt.
Fanmail =) |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
170
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:22:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:That would be perfect test if no local works in normal space ( it works perfectly in w-space ) yeah because aside from no local wormholes are 100% identical to k-space
Learn to read you goon tard
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: CCP just should add 0.0 regions on the verge of existing one that have no local, are connected via normal stargates and where cyno works.
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Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:24:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Pathetic From: ****** To: Caliph Muhammed
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you are one pathetic son a bi.tch. Sociopath piece of dogturd. Just biomass yourself, make the game a better place.
Cu.nt.
Fanmail =)
you fan mail kinda has a point. With your use of language and how you have refered to others in this thread and in the previous thread. You are one very angry person. Its not surpsiring you got hate mail. I am surprisd you did not get it before speaking how you have been speaking to others. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
179
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:27:00 -
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I understand completely. If you need to vent feel free. Send me a mail with your expressed feelings and I promise to hold them forever and cherish them, like love letters. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:29:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:I understand completely. If you need to vent feel free. Send me a mail with your feelings and I promise to hold them forever and cherish them, like love letters.
rofl. I am much more smooth than i apear. I dont fall into that trap. All i said, was thats is deserving. Not that i feel the same way |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
798
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:30:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Pathetic From: ****** To: Caliph Muhammed
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you are one pathetic son a bi.tch. Sociopath piece of dogturd. Just biomass yourself, make the game a better place.
Cu.nt.
Fanmail =)
Reasons why this email only exists in your own imagination.
1. People are arguing with each other they mainly see you as an irritation 2. No one is calling you Sociopathic but yourself. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:33:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:Pathetic From: ****** To: Caliph Muhammed
INBOX
you are one pathetic son a bi.tch. Sociopath piece of dogturd. Just biomass yourself, make the game a better place.
Cu.nt.
Fanmail =) Reasons why this email only exists in your own imagination. 1. People are arguing with each other they mainly see you as an irritation 2. No one is calling you Sociopathic but yourself.
+1 ROFL i love part 2. I bet somewhere in that brain there is a neuron that is telling him, you are a sociopath! I bet that much is true. |
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Mindseamstress
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:39:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:Get rid of local, all secs. It fixes almost everything. You would have to work to locate a target. You would have to work to avoid a target. There would be risk in high sec. There would be risk in all secs.
Freighters could be caught during a war dec. Freighters could get through during a war dec.
You would still have Concord retaliation in high sec. You could still be camped, though if you break the camp it would be harder to hunt you down. Certainly no worse that what we have now but with compelling gameplay.
It would solve cloaky camps people complain about. It would give a point to cloaks of which people complain about.
It would make neutral alts almost irrelevant. Though not 100%. It would certainly make playing with one account a lot less of a disadvantage. Sure you might lose a few alt account subs, but you would gain many more subs by having more compelling gameplay. What good is a scout profession when they're revealed as soon as they enter system?
The changes the expansion are bringing aren't going to revitalize low sec or null sec and its certainly not going to promote or fuel war. Quite the opposite.
The devs and the playerbase talk a lot about EVE being hardcore, but as of yet i'm not really seeing the hardcore aspect to the game.
The game is a boring campfest. Removing local removes that to a large degree.
To my ultra Orthodox carebear players, uncle Caliphy isn't throwing you under the bus. The threats you worry about occuring with this change would actually be resolvable by a merc corporation. If you are decced and you hire a merc the merc cannot sneak up on the enemy with everything displayed for them. They may be able to make your tormentors life a little more difficult but in most cases can't force a fight under those conditions. With no local they could. If you are camped by a griefdec and you hire a reasonably sized merc to help you the griefer will never see them coming. It's win/win.
Even null entry points would be camped far less. Lets see the thirty man bubble camp consistently do it when a 150 man roaming gang warps in on them and they never see it coming.
Local is holding EVE back. Period. Get rid of it and let EVE become great.
Oh what you are talking about is going back to the way it was in 2003... I admit the game was more fun back then but unfortunately, it turns out the majority didn't so CCP took out the nerf bad in favor of carebearism. Note that the number of players went up sharply from an all time low of 3k per day. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
179
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:41:00 -
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Mindseamstress wrote: Oh what you are talking about is going back to the way it was in 2003... I admit the game was more fun back then but unfortunately, it turns out the majority didn't so CCP took out the nerf bad in favor of carebearism. Note that the number of players went up sharply from an all time low of 3k per day.
You forget the part about having no Concord. Slightly different than no local. Convenient you forgot that. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:53:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Learn to read you goon tard
did I upset you eh |
malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
67
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:55:00 -
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The only reason I can see as to why the OP wants the removal of local, Is to have the total advantage of killing his industrialist War Targets.
Hell I even believe, though Wormholes have no local, the Op has never been in one. Why?. He is going in totally blind.
If remove local, then lets remove locator agents. Make you WORK for your kills. Good luck finding a WT 60 jumps away, and you don't know where they are.
07 |
Frying Doom
189
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:56:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:Learn to read you goon tard did I upset you I don't think you did, I believe it was a factual statement that you seem unable to read at present. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
Local Channel in Null must Die. Jump Drives need Nerfing. Null is meant to be dangerous and hard. Not safe and boring. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
180
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Posted - 2012.05.27 13:58:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote:The only reason I can see as to why the OP wants the removal of local, Is to have the total advantage of killing his industrialist War Targets.
Hell I even believe, though Wormholes have no local, the Op has never been in one. Why?. He is going in totally blind.
If remove local, then lets remove locator agents. Make you WORK for your kills. Good luck finding a WT 60 jumps away, and you don't know where they are.
07
And when you check the OPs killboard you see battleships and battlecruisers and not one hulk. 1 major industrial kill from a freighter in hi sec.
But even if the assumption were true. So what? Do industrial ships have a right to safety? |
malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
67
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Posted - 2012.05.27 14:09:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:
And when you check the OPs killboard you see battleships and battlecruisers and not one hulk. 1 major industrial kill from a freighter in hi sec.
But even if the assumption were true. So what? Do industrial ships have a right to safety?
No ship has the right to safety, but every ship has the right to a chance of survival. |
Lord Zim
712
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Posted - 2012.05.27 14:10:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:And when you check the OPs killboard you see battleships and battlecruisers and not one hulk. 1 major industrial kill from a freighter in hi sec. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12904924 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12846201 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12831134 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12732083 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13154012 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13089585 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12928381
As one guy said earlier, "that's not PVP"
Caliph Muhammed wrote:But even if the assumption were true. So what? Do industrial ships have a right to safety? One problem with this question: it's not related to what malcovas asserted: all you want is to have the total advantage of killing your wartargets. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
181
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Posted - 2012.05.27 14:15:00 -
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Yeah I did forget the Orca. But no hulks, I dont suicide gank miners and any industrials that were targeted were by chance. When you have two camp for hours on end you have to take what you can get. Any of those with zero combat skill could have left the war but they chose not to. |
Lord Zim
712
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Posted - 2012.05.27 14:24:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:I dont suicide gank miners What's the matter, afraid you should lose a ship?
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Any of those with zero combat skill could have left the war but they chose not to. If they even saw that they were at war to begin with, or even understood what that meant. |
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